Will Facebook eventually die the way Myspace did? (1 Viewer)

[Christo]

Last I checked, teens don't have disposable income that advertisers care about

Yet, just about every purchase my friends make for their kids are based upon the wants of their kids. Just last week, I asked my sister what he oldest daughter would like for her birthday. She told me. I bought it.

 

[pollardsvision]

Last I checked, teens don't have disposable income that advertisers care about

Yet, just about every purchase my friends make for their kids are based upon the wants of their kids. Just last week, I asked my sister what he oldest daughter would like for her birthday. She told me. I bought it.

Yeah, teens have the best kind of money. Money they didn't earn, so they aren't terribly worried about silly things like whether the purchase is really necessary or not.

 

[Tiger Fan]

Last I checked, teens don't have disposable income that advertisers care about

Yet, just about every purchase my friends make for their kids are based upon the wants of their kids. Just last week, I asked my sister what he oldest daughter would like for her birthday. She told me. I bought it.

I guess my point is that eventually teens are only in the "hide everything from parents" stage for so long, and eventually well get to the point where facebook really does add a lot of value...which is for the entire adult life. It really is an incredible tool for keeping up with people.

 

[hotdogcollars]

What are people doing with snapchat that makes it important? I thought that was just an app for sexting?

a "new" feature they introduced called Stories. Basically a series of snapshots that tell a story...and then self destructs. People are using it in all kinds of creative ways but in it's most basic form it is meant to tell someone about your day, experience at an event or destination, something you did, etc

Kids like how it is raw and honest about the experience. How it doesnt allow for the social competition and jealousy that exists within facebook. It's not about who collects the most friends, likes, shares, or comments. it's simply about connecting. They also like how their parents don't use it. Each generation requires separation from the previous one and especially their elders. Be it music, clothing, politics, or technology.

But most importantly, it almost doesn't matter what makes Snapchat so popular with "da youfs". What matters is that a LOT of them use it every day, every hour, or even every few minutes. Once a platform has the attention of that many dedicated and easily influenced consumers, you can mold it to fit whatever end game you want

 

[eoMMan]

Last I checked, teens don't have disposable income that advertisers care about

Yet, just about every purchase my friends make for their kids are based upon the wants of their kids. Just last week, I asked my sister what he oldest daughter would like for her birthday. She told me. I bought it.

I guess my point is that eventually teens are only in the "hide everything from parents" stage for so long, and eventually well get to the point where facebook really does add a lot of value...which is for the entire adult life. It really is an incredible tool for keeping up with people.

And time waster, drain on America's economy, contributor to divorces/murders, etc.

 

[Tiger Fan]

Last I checked, teens don't have disposable income that advertisers care about

Yet, just about every purchase my friends make for their kids are based upon the wants of their kids. Just last week, I asked my sister what he oldest daughter would like for her birthday. She told me. I bought it.

I guess my point is that eventually teens are only in the "hide everything from parents" stage for so long, and eventually well get to the point where facebook really does add a lot of value...which is for the entire adult life. It really is an incredible tool for keeping up with people.

And time waster, drain on America's economy, contributor to divorces/murders, etc.

"Get off my lawn"

 

[Fennis]

What are people doing with snapchat that makes it important? I thought that was just an app for sexting?

Correct. I use it for all my penis pics.

I can confirm that.

 

[Slapdash]

What are people doing with snapchat that makes it important? I thought that was just an app for sexting?

a "new" feature they introduced called Stories. Basically a series of snapshots that tell a story...and then self destructs. People are using it in all kinds of creative ways but in it's most basic form it is meant to tell someone about your day, experience at an event or destination, something you did, etc

Kids like how it is raw and honest about the experience. How it doesnt allow for the social competition and jealousy that exists within facebook. It's not about who collects the most friends, likes, shares, or comments. it's simply about connecting. They also like how their parents don't use it. Each generation requires separation from the previous one and especially their elders. Be it music, clothing, politics, or technology.

But most importantly, it almost doesn't matter what makes Snapchat so popular with "da youfs". What matters is that a LOT of them use it every day, every hour, or even every few minutes. Once a platform has the attention of that many dedicated and easily influenced consumers, you can mold it to fit whatever end game you want

Again, how is this not just texting?

 

[hotdogcollars]

What are people doing with snapchat that makes it important? I thought that was just an app for sexting?

a "new" feature they introduced called Stories. Basically a series of snapshots that tell a story...and then self destructs. People are using it in all kinds of creative ways but in it's most basic form it is meant to tell someone about your day, experience at an event or destination, something you did, etc

Kids like how it is raw and honest about the experience. How it doesnt allow for the social competition and jealousy that exists within facebook. It's not about who collects the most friends, likes, shares, or comments. it's simply about connecting. They also like how their parents don't use it. Each generation requires separation from the previous one and especially their elders. Be it music, clothing, politics, or technology.

But most importantly, it almost doesn't matter what makes Snapchat so popular with "da youfs". What matters is that a LOT of them use it every day, every hour, or even every few minutes. Once a platform has the attention of that many dedicated and easily influenced consumers, you can mold it to fit whatever end game you want

Again, how is this not just texting?

in many ways, snapchat replaces texting. But texts are single points in time. And are a very flat medium in which to express yourself. And when you're an average modern day teenager, expressing yourself to your friends is important. Perhaps the most important thing to you.

Snapchat stories allow simple editing and embellishing, and tell a...well...they tell a story. Thru pictures. Pictures > Text almost all the time online and in tech

I can't argue that to most mature adults, Snapchat is and should be a mystery. A minor variation on technology that we already have. A blip on our tech radar. But in terms of becoming the next big social platform, making billions, and possibly...eventually unseating FB, Snapchat has made some great decisions

 

[pollardsvision]

Far less exciting than the Fappening, but 90,000 photos and 9000 videos got hacked from SnapChat users. The Snappening

I assume it's 85,000 **** pics, and with 50% of SnapChat users being under 18, it's not the sort of thing anyone would or should want to to check out.

I'm counting on NCC to point us in the direction of the quality, legal stuff.

 

[chauncey]

What are people doing with snapchat that makes it important? I thought that was just an app for sexting?

a "new" feature they introduced called Stories. Basically a series of snapshots that tell a story...and then self destructs. People are using it in all kinds of creative ways but in it's most basic form it is meant to tell someone about your day, experience at an event or destination, something you did, etc

Kids like how it is raw and honest about the experience. How it doesnt allow for the social competition and jealousy that exists within facebook. It's not about who collects the most friends, likes, shares, or comments. it's simply about connecting. They also like how their parents don't use it. Each generation requires separation from the previous one and especially their elders. Be it music, clothing, politics, or technology.

But most importantly, it almost doesn't matter what makes Snapchat so popular with "da youfs". What matters is that a LOT of them use it every day, every hour, or even every few minutes. Once a platform has the attention of that many dedicated and easily influenced consumers, you can mold it to fit whatever end game you want

Again, how is this not just texting?

in many ways, snapchat replaces texting. But texts are single points in time. And are a very flat medium in which to express yourself. And when you're an average modern day teenager, expressing yourself to your friends is important. Perhaps the most important thing to you.

Snapchat stories allow simple editing and embellishing, and tell a...well...they tell a story. Thru pictures. Pictures > Text almost all the time online and in tech

I can't argue that to most mature adults, Snapchat is and should be a mystery. A minor variation on technology that we already have. A blip on our tech radar. But in terms of becoming the next big social platform, making billions, and possibly...eventually unseating FB, Snapchat has made some great decisions

This is a big reason it has caught on, same with instagram. Snapchat also "deletes" the pics so a user is more inclined to send sexy or goofy spontaneous pics they may not otherwise share. And don't forget the ADHD culture kids live in. Twitter has mastered this, people don't care about stuff from 24 hours ago, so Snapchat provides a real time stream of someone's life and it doesn't leave a thousand useless old pics stored on your phone or in the cloud.

 

[eoMMan]

Fwiw, the whatsapp is awesome for when someone is overseas. You can chat pretty much like texting. When my wife was in China, she was on the hotel's wifi and it was a piece if cake. Skype is still great as well.

 

[Christo]

Fwiw, the whatsapp is awesome for when someone is overseas. You can chat pretty much like texting. When my wife was in China, she was on the hotel's wifi and it was a piece if cake. Skype is still great as well.

Yep, I started using whatsapp in the last 2 months and like it a lot. A friend in London got me onto it.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

What people really want are effective ways to communicate with smaller, specific groups of people. The plethora of messaging apps are all better suited for that, which is why FB owns two of the biggest.

It seems like Facebook could do this pretty easily by adding something similar to Google+'s circles. When you post you choose if you want it to be viewable by everyone or just a specific circle (IE a specific group of people..."coworkers", "family", "old college friends", etc).

I'm really surprised they haven't implemented this year.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Fwiw, the whatsapp is awesome for when someone is overseas. You can chat pretty much like texting. When my wife was in China, she was on the hotel's wifi and it was a piece if cake. Skype is still great as well.

Yep, I started using whatsapp in the last 2 months and like it a lot. A friend in London got me onto it.

My sister travels out of the country quite a bit and swears by it. She is in Asia and South America a bit, and Europe occasionally, says it's the most reliable way to get in touch with her.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Fwiw, the whatsapp is awesome for when someone is overseas. You can chat pretty much like texting. When my wife was in China, she was on the hotel's wifi and it was a piece if cake. Skype is still great as well.

Yep, I started using whatsapp in the last 2 months and like it a lot. A friend in London got me onto it.

How is that any different than any other instant messaging app that has existed since 1998?

 

[Dentist]

Fwiw, the whatsapp is awesome for when someone is overseas. You can chat pretty much like texting. When my wife was in China, she was on the hotel's wifi and it was a piece if cake. Skype is still great as well.

Yep, I started using whatsapp in the last 2 months and like it a lot. A friend in London got me onto it.

How is that any different than any other instant messaging app that has existed since 1998?

exactly.. how is this different than google hangout, yahoo messenger, aol im

I get the concept of sending text messages as "data" so that you can drop your texting package and just go with a nicer data package...

with hangouts and google voice google has already given us a way to text and call with data without a phone carrier.... i figure it's only a matter of time before google blankets the country with internet and ATT and sprint can go suck it.

 

[pollardsvision]

What people really want are effective ways to communicate with smaller, specific groups of people. The plethora of messaging apps are all better suited for that, which is why FB owns two of the biggest.

It seems like Facebook could do this pretty easily by adding something similar to Google+'s circles. When you post you choose if you want it to be viewable by everyone or just a specific circle (IE a specific group of people..."coworkers", "family", "old college friends", etc).

I'm really surprised they haven't implemented this year.

I guess they kind of do have that with the "groups", but I guess that requires an extra step, as opposed to having the friends/contacts being divided up upon creation. People still have to create the group/circle. It seems people don't think to use facebook that way.

It might just be too late with so many companies/apps going after that market in full force. I've only used Facebook Messenger a couple of times (downloaded it very reluctantly), but that seems like it might be their best chance.

 

[Dentist]

What people really want are effective ways to communicate with smaller, specific groups of people. The plethora of messaging apps are all better suited for that, which is why FB owns two of the biggest.

It seems like Facebook could do this pretty easily by adding something similar to Google+'s circles. When you post you choose if you want it to be viewable by everyone or just a specific circle (IE a specific group of people..."coworkers", "family", "old college friends", etc).

I'm really surprised they haven't implemented this year.

That is my favorite part about google plus which is why my family is using that app and network for baby pics instead of putting them on facebook for the world to see.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

What people really want are effective ways to communicate with smaller, specific groups of people. The plethora of messaging apps are all better suited for that, which is why FB owns two of the biggest.

It seems like Facebook could do this pretty easily by adding something similar to Google+'s circles. When you post you choose if you want it to be viewable by everyone or just a specific circle (IE a specific group of people..."coworkers", "family", "old college friends", etc).

I'm really surprised they haven't implemented this year.

They've had that for a really long time. They call it "groups" instead of "circles." Whenever you post something, you decide who'll be able to see it. The choices are "Public," "Friends," "Only Me," or "Custom." If you choose "Custom," you can specify whichever group that you've already created.

 

[Christo]

Fwiw, the whatsapp is awesome for when someone is overseas. You can chat pretty much like texting. When my wife was in China, she was on the hotel's wifi and it was a piece if cake. Skype is still great as well.

Yep, I started using whatsapp in the last 2 months and like it a lot. A friend in London got me onto it.

How is that any different than any other instant messaging app that has existed since 1998?

I don't know. I haven't checked out every other instant messaging app that's existed since 1998. Didn't know I was required to before stating that I liked this one.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Fwiw, the whatsapp is awesome for when someone is overseas. You can chat pretty much like texting. When my wife was in China, she was on the hotel's wifi and it was a piece if cake. Skype is still great as well.

Yep, I started using whatsapp in the last 2 months and like it a lot. A friend in London got me onto it.

How is that any different than any other instant messaging app that has existed since 1998?

I don't know. I haven't checked out every other instant messaging app that's existed since 1998. Didn't know I was required to before stating that I liked this one.

I really was wondering if there was something more to it. Rather, I thought there must have been and surely we weren't just talking about AOL IM here. Or Skype minus the ability to call people.

Apparently not, and apparently this thing is actually a feature stripped version of those (not even a desktop client?). What the heck does this thing do that hangouts doesn't? Hangouts is nice because you can send through data if the other person is using hangouts, and if they're not you can still send them a text from right there in the same app. Plus you can receive/respond to messages on your PC/Mac to boot.

 

[bentley]

I'm just here for the Snapchat dong pics.

 

[Dentist]

I'm just here for the Snapchat dong pics.

Agree, start hanging dong you people in the know that have access to the snappening

 

[pollardsvision]

BTW, how the hell did AOL/AIM screw this up?

I never really used it much, but it seems it was the service 10-12 years ago. Then Facebook happened, and now it seems like people are getting back to wanting a beefed up version of what AIM was doing a decade ago.

If smartphones had hit before Facebook, would AIM be the most popular messaging app on phones today? Even then, they apparently had 52% of the instant messaging market a year before the first iPhone was released.

 

[nirad3]

BTW, how the hell did AOL/AIM screw this up?

I never really used it much, but it seems it was the service 10-12 years ago. Then Facebook happened, and now it seems like people are getting back to wanting a beefed up version of what AIM was doing a decade ago.

If smartphones had hit before Facebook, would AIM be the most popular messaging app on phones today? Even then, they apparently had 52% of the instant messaging market a year before the first iPhone was released.

Yeah, AIM was the shiz back in the early 2000's. Lots of good dynasty league trade talks would go on there.

And actually, KIK is actually the "beefed up version" of AIM and the other computer-based messenger systems, which for some reason appears to only be used by teens and those in their early-20's.

 

[UniAlias]

I think Snapchat's newest feature of special event "Stories" is pretty cool. They usually do College Gameday every week, music festivals, World Cup games, etc. where it compiles short snaps from people attending or playing in these large events in one story.

Recently they did one at a big hot air balloon race. Was cool to see all the different short video perspectives from balloons during the race. The technology is pretty amazing IMO.

 

[cstu]

Well, well, well...things just got interesting:

A BETTER WAY

October 23, 2014

Hi there.

There has been some speculation in the press since our launch 11 weeks ago that Ello will someday be forced to allow paid ads on our social network.

With virtually everybody else relying on ads to make money, some members of the tech elite are finding it hard to imagine there is a better way.

But 2014 is not 2004, and the world has changed.

To assure that Ello always remains ad-free, today Ello converted to a Public Benefit Corporation (PBC).

A Benefit Corporation is a new kind of for-profit company in the USA that exists to produce a benefit for society as a whole — not just to make money for its investors.

The Ello PBC charter states in the strongest legal terms possible that:

1. Ello shall never make money from selling ads;

2. Ello shall never make money from selling user data; and

3. In the event that Ello is ever sold, the new owners will have to comply by these terms.

In other words, Ello exists for your benefit, and will never show ads or sell user data.

Simple, beautiful, and ad-free.

There is a better way.

 

[Koya]

Ello schmeelo. teen's are already leaving / not joining facebook. Why? Because ALL of their parents are already there.

NOT COOL.

 

[Jalapanose]

I just don't get how the snapchat guy turned down all of those Billions. I'm sure they will come with some ads eventually, but monetizing the app seems like it is going to be difficult.

 

[Slapdash]

Well, well, well...things just got interesting:

A BETTER WAY

October 23, 2014

Hi there.

There has been some speculation in the press since our launch 11 weeks ago that Ello will someday be forced to allow paid ads on our social network.

With virtually everybody else relying on ads to make money, some members of the tech elite are finding it hard to imagine there is a better way.

But 2014 is not 2004, and the world has changed.

To assure that Ello always remains ad-free, today Ello converted to a Public Benefit Corporation (PBC).

A Benefit Corporation is a new kind of for-profit company in the USA that exists to produce a benefit for society as a whole — not just to make money for its investors.

The Ello PBC charter states in the strongest legal terms possible that:

1. Ello shall never make money from selling ads;

2. Ello shall never make money from selling user data; and

3. In the event that Ello is ever sold, the new owners will have to comply by these terms.

In other words, Ello exists for your benefit, and will never show ads or sell user data.

Simple, beautiful, and ad-free.

There is a better way.

We need more Public Benefit Corporations

 

[cstu]

Just got an invite to Ello and signed up. Haven't done anything yet, but look at this easy to find under Settings:

Account DeletionBy deleting your account you remove your personal information from Ello. Your account cannot be restored.

 

[bentley]

I've been on Ello for a few days. Not quite seeing the point yet. Site could definitely use a "people you may know" feature.

 

[hotdogcollars]

I just don't get how the snapchat guy turned down all of those Billions. I'm sure they will come with some ads eventually, but monetizing the app seems like it is going to be difficult.

Most high tech entrepreneurs are a different breed, not just looking to cash out and retire to a simple life. Given the chance to establish the next great company and cement their name in history (as far as they are concerned), these guys jump at it. And is something even billions can't wrestle away from them

 

[Harry Manback]

Well, well, well...things just got interesting:

A BETTER WAY

October 23, 2014

Hi there.

There has been some speculation in the press since our launch 11 weeks ago that Ello will someday be forced to allow paid ads on our social network.

With virtually everybody else relying on ads to make money, some members of the tech elite are finding it hard to imagine there is a better way.

But 2014 is not 2004, and the world has changed.

To assure that Ello always remains ad-free, today Ello converted to a Public Benefit Corporation (PBC).

A Benefit Corporation is a new kind of for-profit company in the USA that exists to produce a benefit for society as a whole — not just to make money for its investors.

The Ello PBC charter states in the strongest legal terms possible that:

1. Ello shall never make money from selling ads;

2. Ello shall never make money from selling user data; and

3. In the event that Ello is ever sold, the new owners will have to comply by these terms.

In other words, Ello exists for your benefit, and will never show ads or sell user data.

Simple, beautiful, and ad-free.

There is a better way.

We need more Public Benefit Corporations

So...how do they make money?

 

[cstu]

Well, well, well...things just got interesting:

A BETTER WAY

October 23, 2014

Hi there.

There has been some speculation in the press since our launch 11 weeks ago that Ello will someday be forced to allow paid ads on our social network.

With virtually everybody else relying on ads to make money, some members of the tech elite are finding it hard to imagine there is a better way.

But 2014 is not 2004, and the world has changed.

To assure that Ello always remains ad-free, today Ello converted to a Public Benefit Corporation (PBC).

A Benefit Corporation is a new kind of for-profit company in the USA that exists to produce a benefit for society as a whole — not just to make money for its investors.

The Ello PBC charter states in the strongest legal terms possible that:

1. Ello shall never make money from selling ads;

2. Ello shall never make money from selling user data; and

3. In the event that Ello is ever sold, the new owners will have to comply by these terms.

In other words, Ello exists for your benefit, and will never show ads or sell user data.

Simple, beautiful, and ad-free.

There is a better way.

We need more Public Benefit Corporations

So...how do they make money?

We’ll either build a business that doesn’t rely on third party advertising or the selling of user data or we won’t build a business. Our belief is that there are products and features that Ello can develop that users will be willing to pay for. While the price points may be low, as part of a much larger ecosystem with millions of users, will provide an economic model for the company which supports the business and our investment.

 

[cstu]

I've been on Ello for a few days. Not quite seeing the point yet. Site could definitely use a "people you may know" feature.

It has a long way to go but on mere principle I hope people switch to it from Facebook.

 

[Raider Nation]

I don't know one person personally who is on twitter. Almost everybody I know is on FB. I can't imagine the user numbers are even in the same stratosphere.

Hey Cappy, what's up?

Just wanted to let you know that I now follow you on Twitter.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Ello schmeelo. teen's are already leaving / not joining facebook. Why? Because ALL of their parents are already there.

NOT COOL.

Yes. Once mom and dad started being the dominant user base, the decline was on.

 

[flapgreen]

Agreed

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Facebook is down right now. I don't remember that ever happening before.

Down according to:

http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/facebook.com

http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/facebook.com.html

https://downdetector.com/status/facebook

 

[Corporation]

Facebook is down right now. I don't remember that ever happening before.

Down according to:

http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/facebook.com

http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/facebook.com.html

https://downdetector.com/status/facebook

I was just checking those sites myself. Then the "isitdown" site you listed went down.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Instagram appears to be down as well.

MySpace is working fine.

 

[Wingnut]

Facebook working fine here