Will the Patriots go undefeated again in 2015? (1 Viewer)

[devouredbychaos]

With the cupcake schedule they have, sure they can go undefeated in the regular season, but there are several teams that could beat them in the Super Bowl (Packers, Cardinals, and of course we always have to include the Giants LOL) and the Bengals could give them all they can handle in the AFC.

Bengals, LOLOLOL

Laugh if you want but the Bengals can score easily with the Pats and they have a better defense.

Not with Dalton and Marvin Lewis there. Patriots have a better offense than when they beat them last year, and I just don't see how the Bengals could stop them. Do you really think Dalton could beat Brady in a shootout in a prime time game?? Cmon now, be logical.

 

[Run It Up]

With the cupcake schedule they have, sure they can go undefeated in the regular season, but there are several teams that could beat them in the Super Bowl (Packers, Cardinals, and of course we always have to include the Giants LOL) and the Bengals could give them all they can handle in the AFC.

Think this needs more attention:

Through 7 weeks, of teams with a winning record, the Patriots have the second hardest SOS so far at 13th overall one behind the Jets.

Steelers 20th, Panthers 22nd, Packers 25th, Bengals 27th, Broncos 28th, Cardinals 30th.

vs WAS 3-4 coming off BYE

@ NYG 4-3

vs BUF 3-4 coming off TNF

@ DEN 6-0

vs PHI 3-4 coming off TNF

@ HOU 2-5

vs TEN 1-5

@ NYJ 4-2

@ MIA 3-5

Besides the AFC South and maybe Washington, not a lot of gimmes, granted I doubt the Pats run the table, but I think its more likely this year than it was this time in 2007. All of the competition, in both conferences look weak. NE's biggest concern right now is they are losing an OLinemen per game.

 

[JohnnyU]

With the cupcake schedule they have, sure they can go undefeated in the regular season, but there are several teams that could beat them in the Super Bowl (Packers, Cardinals, and of course we always have to include the Giants LOL) and the Bengals could give them all they can handle in the AFC.

Bengals, LOLOLOL

Laugh if you want but the Bengals can score easily with the Pats and they have a better defense.

Not with Dalton and Marvin Lewis there. Patriots have a better offense than when they beat them last year, and I just don't see how the Bengals could stop them. Do you really think Dalton could beat Brady in a shootout in a prime time game?? Cmon now, be logical.

Dalton is having a great year.

 

[JuniorNB]

With the cupcake schedule they have, sure they can go undefeated in the regular season, but there are several teams that could beat them in the Super Bowl (Packers, Cardinals, and of course we always have to include the Giants LOL) and the Bengals could give them all they can handle in the AFC.

Bengals, LOLOLOL

Laugh if you want but the Bengals can score easily with the Pats and they have a better defense.

Not with Dalton and Marvin Lewis there. Patriots have a better offense than when they beat them last year, and I just don't see how the Bengals could stop them. Do you really think Dalton could beat Brady in a shootout in a prime time game?? Cmon now, be logical.

Dalton is having a great year.

Mr October. He's done this many times. He needs to come up big in the post season.

 

[Run It Up]

Its not the first time Dalton has had a great year, its also not the first time Brady has had a great year. Brady however is on pace to break records.

Maybe Dalton will somehow hold off the Steelers meteoric rise starting this week and actually win the division - either way he has to win a playoff game. :X

 

[Todem]

Quite simply no.

 

[jurb26]

Dalton has a passer rating of 116.1 and a YPA of 9.12. Both are league highs. He's having an incredible year.

 

[Insein]

I thought we'd never see anyone get close again after 2007. I think they do it this year barring injury. The schedule is pretty easy and Tom is on a mission to embarrass the NFL.

 

[Todem]

I thought we'd never see anyone get close again after 2007. I think they do it this year barring injury. The schedule is pretty easy and Tom is on a mission to embarrass the NFL.

**ck it I will call it now.

Game 16 at Miami if they come in undefeated....

They lose.

It will be the ghosts of 1985 stalking the sidelines like when we faced the Bears. Tannehill does his best Marino impersonation.

No really....if they come here to Miami undefeated that place will be shaking and we will find a way to beat them.

 

[JuniorNB]

I thought we'd never see anyone get close again after 2007. I think they do it this year barring injury. The schedule is pretty easy and Tom is on a mission to embarrass the NFL.

**ck it I will call it now.Game 16 at Miami if they come in undefeated....

They lose.

It will be the ghosts of 1985 stalking the sidelines like when we faced the Bears. Tannehill does his best Marino impersonation.

No really....if they come here to Miami undefeated that place will be shaking and we will find a way to beat them.

good chance Pats will have already clinched home field throughout. Not sure what bellichick would do. He and Brady already did the undefeated regular season thing. You might not see Brady or Gronk that game

 

[T with T]

Pats will go 16-0 and eventually hold the Lombardi on the way to 19-0. Im convinced. These guys are on a different level. Brady is a gunslinger and cold blooded. He is also the luckiest, coolest guy on planet earth with one of the hottest wives, biggest houses and most impressive records. Don't bet against Tom Brady. It would be a fitting way to break the all time record for SB for a player and also Defeat the dolphins to go 16-0 and finish the 2015 season off the way it should have been done in 07

 

[Run It Up]

Pats will go 16-0 and eventually hold the Lombardi on the way to 19-0. Im convinced. These guys are on a different level. Brady is a gunslinger and cold blooded. He is also the luckiest, coolest guy on planet earth with one of the hottest wives, biggest houses and most impressive records. Don't bet against Tom Brady. It would be a fitting way to break the all time record for SB for a player and also Defeat the dolphins to go 16-0 and finish the 2015 season off the way it should have been done in 07

ESPN called him the greatest living American. All adds up

 

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It's funny...

Pats fans are all saying "unlikely to no chance"
Non Pats fans are all saying "It's destiny"

Then when the Pats lose, the usual suspects will roll in beating their chests "LOL Delusional Pats fans"

It's like clockwork, really

 

[Insein]

I was one of the few non Pats fans that wanted to see perfection. When will that ever happen again? Tom Brady is the living embodiment of the deal with the devil. He is the greatest QB to ever play the game, has arguably the most beautiful wife on the planet, got zero flak for bailing on his previous wife baby momma who had a kid with him and is also hot and doesn't look like he's slowing down skill wise even at age 38. If he signed a deal with Satan to play 10 more years, then I believe him. All records will be Bradys and never be broken.

It's odd to have seen the whole career of the greatest to ever play the game.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Yeah, Brady has only been married once.

 

[Todem]

If The Pats do go all the way 19-0 it IMO is pretty tough to argue they go down as the greatest dynasty.

I mean lets see we have in the merger era:

Steelers of the 70's

49ers of the 80's

Cowboys in the 90's

Patriots 00's

 

[Run It Up]

If The Pats do go all the way 19-0 it IMO is pretty tough to argue they go down as the greatest dynasty.

I mean lets see we have in the merger era:

Steelers of the 70's

49ers of the 80's

Cowboys in the 90's

Patriots 00's

I don't see the light at the end of the tunnel, dynasty could span two decades.

Goatroppolo doesn't look too bad either.

 

[Todem]

If The Pats do go all the way 19-0 it IMO is pretty tough to argue they go down as the greatest dynasty.

I mean lets see we have in the merger era:

Steelers of the 70's

49ers of the 80's

Cowboys in the 90's

Patriots 00's

I don't see the light at the end of the tunnel, dynasty could span two decades.Goatroppolo doesn't look too bad either.

Boy Patriots fans are going to be In for a serious rude awakening when Brady retires.

 

[Run It Up]

If The Pats do go all the way 19-0 it IMO is pretty tough to argue they go down as the greatest dynasty.

I mean lets see we have in the merger era:

Steelers of the 70's

49ers of the 80's

Cowboys in the 90's

Patriots 00's

I don't see the light at the end of the tunnel, dynasty could span two decades.Goatroppolo doesn't look too bad either.

Boy Patriots fans are going to be In for a serious rude awakening when Brady retires.

We've been hearing about it for the last decade, you'd think we'd be prepared for it by now.

 

[pennystock]

Well lets see. They've got the best offense in football. The best kicker. The best QB. The best TE. The best coach. A very good defense that can cause turnovers and get pressure on the QB. They're also playing in a league where most of the other teams are either bad or mediocre. Who is possibly going to beat them? GB is the only team I give a chance if they are healthy.

Fact: the team with the best kicker never loses.

Not really sure what point you're trying to make here. My post mentioned a lot more than just a kicker.

I think you're crazy if you think GB is the only team that you even give a chance to. Your points are valid but there are plenty of games on their regular season schedule that they could lose. They were losing to the Jets at home in the 4th quarter, what makes you think that's a sure win in week 16 when the Jets are the home team?Bills usually play them tough, the Giants, while not as talented have found ways to win against them before in similar circumstances, the Broncos are still undefeated and while they don't seem to be as good a team as their record indicates, it's in Denver and should be a tough game.

All in all, it's certainly possible they go undefeated but right now I think it's unlikely. Don't get me wrong, they look amazing but a lot can happen in any given football game.

I'll give you the Jets. Other than that, you're giving me a whole lot of "well this team is not as talented but they seem to always play the Pats tough". Comparing the Giants SuperBowl wins from years ago does not really apply to this season. Of course anything is possible but right now with how stacked the Patriots team (offense, defense and special teams) is, I don't really see the Pats losing a game on their schedule.

So you're saying that everyone on the NE regular season schedule has a 0% chance to beat them except the Jets? Is that what you're saying?

 

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

NE is playing perfect football.

I'm a Packer fan and concede that we're #2 right now. Packers Patriots would be an awesome SB50.

 

[Bossman]

Patriots could lose one ...and be facing an undefeated team on the NFC side.

Pats would then be in position to prevent the perfect season with a Superbowl win.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Well lets see. They've got the best offense in football. The best kicker. The best QB. The best TE. The best coach. A very good defense that can cause turnovers and get pressure on the QB. They're also playing in a league where most of the other teams are either bad or mediocre. Who is possibly going to beat them? GB is the only team I give a chance if they are healthy.

Fact: the team with the best kicker never loses.

Not really sure what point you're trying to make here. My post mentioned a lot more than just a kicker.

I think you're crazy if you think GB is the only team that you even give a chance to. Your points are valid but there are plenty of games on their regular season schedule that they could lose. They were losing to the Jets at home in the 4th quarter, what makes you think that's a sure win in week 16 when the Jets are the home team?Bills usually play them tough, the Giants, while not as talented have found ways to win against them before in similar circumstances, the Broncos are still undefeated and while they don't seem to be as good a team as their record indicates, it's in Denver and should be a tough game.

All in all, it's certainly possible they go undefeated but right now I think it's unlikely. Don't get me wrong, they look amazing but a lot can happen in any given football game.

I'll give you the Jets. Other than that, you're giving me a whole lot of "well this team is not as talented but they seem to always play the Pats tough". Comparing the Giants SuperBowl wins from years ago does not really apply to this season. Of course anything is possible but right now with how stacked the Patriots team (offense, defense and special teams) is, I don't really see the Pats losing a game on their schedule.

So you're saying that everyone on the NE regular season schedule has a 0% chance to beat them except the Jets? Is that what you're saying?

No that's not at all what I'm saying. Read my post again and tell me where I said 0%. In fact I even said "of course anything is possible.......".

 

[pennystock]

Yeah, was reacting to "I don't really see the Pats losing a game on their schedule". I know it's hard to look at any single game and say NE is likely to lose. But even if they have an extremely favorable chance in each game they are still likely to lose one or two over the next nine games. I won't argue at all about them looking like the best team right now though,they look extremely dominant.

 

[TDorBust]

Steelers could have won that game even without Bell or Bryant

Jets could have won that game if Ivory hadn't been hobbled

Patriots are good and you need to win the close ones but I think they lose at least 1 of these games:

@Giants

@Broncos

@Jets

 

[Steelers4Life]

All I know is that I hope the Steelers get a chance to face the Pats in the playoffs with Bryant and Bell healthy. The young defense has improved dramatically since week one and the offense would be on a different level entirely with two of their top three offensive weapons on the field.

I have zero concerns about the Steelers' ability to score with the Pats if they're both back no matter where the game is played. Would be one helluva matchup.

 

[Anarchy99]

Anything can happen, but PIT has never beaten Brady in NE.

 

[Steelers4Life]

Anything can happen, but PIT has never beaten Brady in NE.

Not saying it'd be easy. Never easy to win in New England.

But there's never been a time that they'd be heading into New England with the kind of firepower they'd have if Ben, Bell, Brown, and Bryant are all healthy. It's the most explosive Steelers offense I can remember. The Steelers would have top talents with huge matchup edges to exploit at both WR spots and an elite RB to keep them honest.

In week one, Deangelo ran great but the Steelers faltered in the red zone and in key moments because they had no one other than Brown to catch passes and no threat out of the backfield either. It's enough firepower to keep up with the Pats.

 

[T with T]

All I know is that I hope the Steelers get a chance to face the Pats in the playoffs with Bryant and Bell healthy. The young defense has improved dramatically since week one and the offense would be on a different level entirely with two of their top three offensive weapons on the field.

I have zero concerns about the Steelers' ability to score with the Pats if they're both back no matter where the game is played. Would be one helluva matchup.

Brady Owns pitt bud esp at home. Im fully confident NE would destroy PITT...

 

[T with T]

Anything can happen, but PIT has never beaten Brady in NE.

Not saying it'd be easy. Never easy to win in New England.

But there's never been a time that they'd be heading into New England with the kind of firepower they'd have if Ben, Bell, Brown, and Bryant are all healthy. It's the most explosive Steelers offense I can remember. The Steelers would have top talents with huge matchup edges to exploit at both WR spots and an elite RB to keep them honest.

In week one, Deangelo ran great but the Steelers faltered in the red zone and in key moments because they had no one other than Brown to catch passes and no threat out of the backfield either. It's enough firepower to keep up with the Pats.

At the end of the day the steelers just don't have Tom Brady. That's all that really matters.... The Greatest Qb Ever.

 

[DropKick]

NE looks great but winning every game is too difficult. The Jets had a 4th quarter lead. There will be days when another teams gets the breaks or plays lights out and it just doesn't happen. I think getting beat may even be a blessing in disguise as it takes the pressure off.

 

[TDorBust]

So should we bookmark this thread for when they finish 14-2 and lose their first home game in the playoffs?

Also gotta love this whole "Brady has own x team"

Do you think it was the team and not Brady owning these teams? Also did anyone forget Brady is older than he used to be even though you can't tell it right now? I remember the days when Favre couldn't lose at home and if it were below 32 he was unstoppable. Things change and you never know when it will happen.

Brady is not going to just start sucking but another long season especially if he is getting hit because of his oline could take a toll before the playoffs.

 

[AngryPatriot]

Long season, probably best if they don't carry the weight of an undefeated run like 07. All they care about is getting a bye, home field. Bellichick and Brady just have the force right now.

 

[Anarchy99]

Certainly things are subject to change and each game is different. But so far, NE has held 4th quarter leads of 14, 24, 41, 24, 13, 10, and 29 points in their games so far. Their average lead has been 23 points before they started allowing garbage time or fourth quarter points.

Usually NE does much better in the second half of the season compared to the first half of the season, and the defense is getting better from week to week. Just like any team, if they stay healthy, don't turn the ball over, and don't commit stupid penatlies they should be tough to beat. Brady is due to throw in a poor performance at some point.

 

[Franknbeans]

God I hope not. Pats fans are already insufferable around here.

 

[tombonneau]

With the cupcake schedule they have, sure they can go undefeated in the regular season, but there are several teams that could beat them in the Super Bowl (Packers, Cardinals, and of course we always have to include the Giants LOL) and the Bengals could give them all they can handle in the AFC.

It's not their fault they play the AFC South this year.

 

[tombonneau]

NE looks great but winning every game is too difficult. The Jets had a 4th quarter lead. There will be days when another teams gets the breaks or plays lights out and it just doesn't happen. I think getting beat may even be a blessing in disguise as it takes the pressure off.

You know a team is good when a legit argument against them going undefeated is: "Yeah, but guys, remember that one time they were trailing in the fourth quarter?"

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

I'm a Pats fan but I just don't see it. Their four toughest games remaining are all on the road and I think they end up going 2-2 in those games.

 

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Yep... Two losses should still lock up homefield. I'd be ecstatic with 14-2 and everyone healthy heading into the playoffs.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Anything can happen, but PIT has never beaten Brady in NE.

Not saying it'd be easy. Never easy to win in New England.

But there's never been a time that they'd be heading into New England with the kind of firepower they'd have if Ben, Bell, Brown, and Bryant are all healthy. It's the most explosive Steelers offense I can remember. The Steelers would have top talents with huge matchup edges to exploit at both WR spots and an elite RB to keep them honest.

In week one, Deangelo ran great but the Steelers faltered in the red zone and in key moments because they had no one other than Brown to catch passes and no threat out of the backfield either. It's enough firepower to keep up with the Pats.

One big problem though is Tomlin coaches with his gut too much instead of his head, and against Belichick, that will spell disaster on several game-changing plays. Plus, when you consider how aggravated Tomlin was after the game early this season about the headset thing, I think Belichick and the Patriots are in his head, which will make him gamble even more, and boom, disaster will happen.

 

[JIslander]

First cold game with balls not to Tom's liking...

 

[Morton Muffley]

This really is a pretty simple math problem. All you have to do is lay out the probability of the Patriots winning each game. Then multiply all the probabilities together and that is the likelihood of them going undefeated. Add the probabilities up and that is the number of their remaining games they are likely to win.

I put their odds of going undefeated at 15.5% and their final record at 14.4 wins and 1.6 losses. Below is the math on how I got there...if you see it significantly differently please show where. thanks in advance.

Was = 95% likely to win

@NYG = 80%

Buffalo = 80%

@DEN = 70%

Philly = 90%

@ Houston = 95%

Tenn = 95%

@NYJ =60%

@Miami = 75%

 

[Run It Up]

538 has done that a couple times this year, never the odds that they will go undefeated, but as you said you can figure it yourself.

As of Week 7 I believe they had NE close to 30% to make the superbowl with their toughest game hilariously (imo) being Den @Den and they were still like 91%.

 

[Steelers4Life]

Anything can happen, but PIT has never beaten Brady in NE.

Not saying it'd be easy. Never easy to win in New England.

But there's never been a time that they'd be heading into New England with the kind of firepower they'd have if Ben, Bell, Brown, and Bryant are all healthy. It's the most explosive Steelers offense I can remember. The Steelers would have top talents with huge matchup edges to exploit at both WR spots and an elite RB to keep them honest.

In week one, Deangelo ran great but the Steelers faltered in the red zone and in key moments because they had no one other than Brown to catch passes and no threat out of the backfield either. It's enough firepower to keep up with the Pats.

One big problem though is Tomlin coaches with his gut too much instead of his head, and against Belichick, that will spell disaster on several game-changing plays. Plus, when you consider how aggravated Tomlin was after the game early this season about the headset thing, I think Belichick and the Patriots are in his head, which will make him gamble even more, and boom, disaster will happen.

Believe me, I'm far more worried about Tomlin making a stupid decision than any history between the Pats and Steelers. In the past, the Pats always had matchup edges against the Steelers... they still do when they're on offense, but now the Steelers have just as much of an advantage when they have the ball.

The Steelers have never had the firepower to keep up. Now they do, and we'd have seen that in week one if Bell and Bryant were healthy. Poor coaching/game management is always a risk though.

 

[Sabertooth]

I don't really give a crap what they do in the regular season. It's all about the Super Bowl for them. And this is Green Bay's year.

 

[hardcoredx]

I don't really give a crap what they do in the regular season. It's all about the Super Bowl for them. And this is Carolina's year.

FYP

 

[JohnnyU]

Anything can happen, but PIT has never beaten Brady in NE.

Not saying it'd be easy. Never easy to win in New England.

But there's never been a time that they'd be heading into New England with the kind of firepower they'd have if Ben, Bell, Brown, and Bryant are all healthy. It's the most explosive Steelers offense I can remember. The Steelers would have top talents with huge matchup edges to exploit at both WR spots and an elite RB to keep them honest.

In week one, Deangelo ran great but the Steelers faltered in the red zone and in key moments because they had no one other than Brown to catch passes and no threat out of the backfield either. It's enough firepower to keep up with the Pats.

At the end of the day the steelers just don't have Tom Brady. That's all that really matters.... The Greatest Qb Ever.

Yeah that 7 yard pass does make him look invincible. What's his numbers beyond 20 yds? Evil Bill (and the Tuck rule) made Tom Brady more than Tom Brady making Evil Bill. Joe Montana is the greatest QB ever. I'd take Elway or Unitas (man who revolutionized the position) over Pretty Boy Tom Brady. Hell, Evil Bill himself said Bert Jones was the best QB he ever saw and if he hadn't got hurt would have gone down as one of (if not the) best of all time. He said that after winning a SB with PBTB.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Yeah that 7 yard pass does make him look invincible. What's his numbers beyond 20 yds? Evil Bill (and the Tuck rule) made Tom Brady more than Tom Brady making Evil Bill. Joe Montana is the greatest QB ever. I'd take Elway or Unitas (man who revolutionized the position) over Pretty Boy Tom Brady. Hell, Evil Bill himself said Bert Jones was the best QB he ever saw and if he hadn't got hurt would have gone down as one of (if not the) best of all time. He said that after winning a SB with PBTB.

Great post to show why drinking and posting is never a good idea.

 

[JohnnyU]

Yeah that 7 yard pass does make him look invincible. What's his numbers beyond 20 yds? Evil Bill (and the Tuck rule) made Tom Brady more than Tom Brady making Evil Bill. Joe Montana is the greatest QB ever. I'd take Elway or Unitas (man who revolutionized the position) over Pretty Boy Tom Brady. Hell, Evil Bill himself said Bert Jones was the best QB he ever saw and if he hadn't got hurt would have gone down as one of (if not the) best of all time. He said that after winning a SB with PBTB.

Great post to show why drinking and posting is never a good idea.

LOL, hardly. I just like to get a rise out of Pats fans every time one of them calls brady the best ever.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Long season, probably best if they don't carry the weight of an undefeated run like 07. All they care about is getting a bye, home field. Bellichick and Brady just have the force right now.

Yep. I think they could, but I would rather just have them wrap up home field and hopefully get back to back titles.

It would be fun to have ANY team shut up those ####### Dolphins though.