Will Tim Tebow be a first day pick next year? (1 Viewer)

[biggamer3]

Hear some people saying he will be a 4th round pick.

Cant believe the guy could drop so far, after what he has done in college.

I dont think its fair to compare him to Charlie Ward, Wouerfell or any Heisman QB without NFL talent.

Tebow is one very talented player

 

[Jason Wood]

According to Jon Gruden, he should be the 1st overall pick 'no question.'

I find Tebow absolutely fascinating. Few players will have accomplished as much as he has on such a big stage, and he's off the charts both as an athlete and as a person. Yet, he's flawed as a passer in most people's eyes.

Whereas I could understand the "he's not a 1st day pick" talk a month or two ago, seeing someone like Pat White go in the 2nd makes me wonder how a team won't talk themselves into taking him, at least in the late 1st round as a project. No?

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Keep in mind that First Day may just be the first round next year.

 

[doubletrouble]

Keep in mind that First Day may just be the first round next year.

then NO

 

[Chase Stuart]

According to Jon Gruden, he should be the 1st overall pick 'no question.' I find Tebow absolutely fascinating. Few players will have accomplished as much as he has on such a big stage, and he's off the charts both as an athlete and as a person. Yet, he's flawed as a passer in most people's eyes.Whereas I could understand the "he's not a 1st day pick" talk a month or two ago, seeing someone like Pat White go in the 2nd makes me wonder how a team won't talk themselves into taking him, at least in the last 1st round as a project. No?

Agreed. However, teams seem to be more willing to reach on speed than strength. Tebow is not in the mold of a Vick or a White.He's got to go to the right team to be a successful NFL player. I think the vast majority of offensive coordinators/coaches/owners would not use Tebow in the right way. He's going to be considered too much of an injury risk to be run like Jim Brown, even though that's his style. His passing needs a LOT of work. I think most teams will try to turn him into a pocket passer, and he won't look good doing it.Third round.

 

[DawgPoundNJ]

Tebow is a HIGH character guy, a born leader, and DEFINITELY someone that I would want on my team.

All that aside, he's a pretty darn hard worker. He's doing everything he can this offseason to translate his game to the NFL level. I think Tebow has mountains more potential than Josh Freeman, and Freeman went 17. I would envision like a #10 on him by next year.

But of course, players that don't have the measurables but simply get it done at every level have been overlooked for years in every sport. One that comes to mind is Martin St. Louis, who was nominated for the Hobey Baker, scored at every level, yet went undrafted.

 

[sho nuff]

Will he? Yes, probably 2nd round.

SHould he? As a QB? No.

 

[sho nuff]

Tebow is a HIGH character guy, a born leader, and DEFINITELY someone that I would want on my team. All that aside, he's a pretty darn hard worker. He's doing everything he can this offseason to translate his game to the NFL level. I think Tebow has mountains more potential than Josh Freeman, and Freeman went 17. I would envision like a #10 on him by next year.But of course, players that don't have the measurables but simply get it done at every level have been overlooked for years in every sport. One that comes to mind is Martin St. Louis, who was nominated for the Hobey Baker, scored at every level, yet went undrafted.

Its not his measurables that will hurt him.Its his mechanics and slow release.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Its not his measurables that will hurt him.Its his mechanics and slow release.

Mechanics are correctable and they brought in a new QB coach to correct them. They're also going to run part of the offense from under center this year. Tebow is going to work to eliminate his flaws so he can prove the Mel Kipers of the world wrong. He's not going to be Byron Leftwich and say "That's just the way I play".

 

[sho nuff]

Its not his measurables that will hurt him.Its his mechanics and slow release.

Mechanics are correctable and they brought in a new QB coach to correct them. They're also going to run part of the offense from under center this year. Tebow is going to work to eliminate his flaws so he can prove the Mel Kipers of the world wrong. He's not going to be Byron Leftwich and say "That's just the way I play".

Its great they are going to try...but its not proving the Kipers of the world wrong. Because at this point, if he does not change, he is not going to make it as an NFL QB.I don't think any of them are claiming he can't change or try to change...just that his current style is not a fit for the game as an NFL QB

 

[omahabrad]

With the wildcat and the spread offense gaining popularity in the NFL, this will only raise tebow's stock. The guy's a proven winner and leader, crazy not to at least give him a shot.

 

[Avery]

Its not his measurables that will hurt him.Its his mechanics and slow release.

Mechanics are correctable and they brought in a new QB coach to correct them. They're also going to run part of the offense from under center this year. Tebow is going to work to eliminate his flaws so he can prove the Mel Kipers of the world wrong. He's not going to be Byron Leftwich and say "That's just the way I play".

Obviously, this year will be very telling.I think he went back to school in a large part to work in more of a pro style offense with a pro style QB coach and work on correcting, or at least improving, some of the flaws in his QB game. As we see how and if he can correct his delivery and release we'll get a better sense of where he might go in the draft.

 

[lod01]

With the wildcat and the spread offense gaining popularity in the NFL, this will only raise tebow's stock. The guy's a proven winner and leader, crazy not to at least give him a shot.

Spread yes. Wildcat will be dead by the end of this year. It's a gimmick. Tebow just needs to stay clear of my WR's and RB's. I don't need this idiot vulturing TDs.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

If Vince Young can be the 3rd overall pick as a quarterback, and Pat White can be a 2nd round pick as a quarterback, then someone will absolutely take a shot on Tebow in the first.

All it takes is one person to be enamored with him, and I think there will be several.

 

[RockHard]

Tebow has average speed (for a QB) and little elusiveness, his trump card at the college level is his size and strength. He wont be able to run over NFL defenders. Put me in the category of people who say he is a second day pick, most of his passes arent even spirals.

 

[twitch]

According to Jon Gruden, he should be the 1st overall pick 'no question.' I find Tebow absolutely fascinating. Few players will have accomplished as much as he has on such a big stage, and he's off the charts both as an athlete and as a person. Yet, he's flawed as a passer in most people's eyes.Whereas I could understand the "he's not a 1st day pick" talk a month or two ago, seeing someone like Pat White go in the 2nd makes me wonder how a team won't talk themselves into taking him, at least in the last 1st round as a project. No?

Totally agree. The man is absolutely a 1st day/round pick. If Pat White can go that high, or Josh Freeman, whose done nothing at the college level and looks about as raw as they come, surely Tebow will be the apple of atleast one team's eye. And that's all it will take. I think the kid just needs to start training more like a QB instead of as a football player. He literally works out with linemen, LBs, lifts and trains like a FB or a RB. He needs to pull back on all that stuff, and do alot more throwing, throwing, throwing to work on those mechanics, and study mass film. But it wouldnt hurt my feelings one bit to see him slide to the top of the 2nd round, and allow NE to get a shot at him. Theyre sitting on 3 2nd round picks as it is. He and Brady's careers could overlap like Young and Montana's years ago. Crazy thought.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Tebow has average speed (for a QB) and little elusiveness, his trump card at the college level is his size and strength. He wont be able to run over NFL defenders. Put me in the category of people who say he is a second day pick, most of his passes arent even spirals.

I think he'll be able to run over NFL defenders.

 

[lod01]

Tebow has average speed (for a QB) and little elusiveness, his trump card at the college level is his size and strength. He wont be able to run over NFL defenders. Put me in the category of people who say he is a second day pick, most of his passes arent even spirals.

I think he'll be able to run over NFL defenders.

Eventually he will get his clock cleaned and either find IR or screw up his throwing should enough to make him worthless. As a QB, you can only run so much in the NFL before it takes it's toll. See McNair. Probably could still be playing if he hadn't taken all those hits. His last few years were worthless. Kerry Collins who never runs, is still starting.

 

[Avery]

Tebow has average speed (for a QB) and little elusiveness, his trump card at the college level is his size and strength. He wont be able to run over NFL defenders. Put me in the category of people who say he is a second day pick, most of his passes arent even spirals.

I think he'll be able to run over NFL defenders.

Eventually he will get his clock cleaned and either find IR or screw up his throwing should enough to make him worthless. As a QB, you can only run so much in the NFL before it takes it's toll. See McNair. Probably could still be playing if he hadn't taken all those hits. His last few years were worthless. Kerry Collins who never runs, is still starting.

Picking a mobile QB who had a 13 year NFL career might not be the best example to try to prove the point you're trying to make here.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Tebow has average speed (for a QB) and little elusiveness, his trump card at the college level is his size and strength. He wont be able to run over NFL defenders. Put me in the category of people who say he is a second day pick, most of his passes arent even spirals.

I think he'll be able to run over NFL defenders.

Eventually he will get his clock cleaned and either find IR or screw up his throwing should enough to make him worthless. As a QB, you can only run so much in the NFL before it takes it's toll. See McNair. Probably could still be playing if he hadn't taken all those hits. His last few years were worthless. Kerry Collins who never runs, is still starting.

I could see Tebow being like a LenDale White.

 

[pollardsvision]

Tebow has average speed (for a QB) and little elusiveness, his trump card at the college level is his size and strength. He wont be able to run over NFL defenders. Put me in the category of people who say he is a second day pick, most of his passes arent even spirals.

I think he'll be able to run over NFL defenders.

I don't think he can, but I'm open to being wrong though. I think it'll be a moot point, however. I can't imagine an NFL team wanting to consistently draw up plays that require their starting QB to run over a MLB in order to be successful.I think Tebow's running will be a non-factor on draft day if he's drafted to play QB.

 

[Foamboard]

First rounder for sure.

He'll go down as the greatest college football player ever.

He's a winner and he loves to ball. Way too talented to slip down in the draft.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I think he went back to school specifically to develop as a passer. I was one that didn't like his chances coming out this year. I am much more optimistic about him next year. I say 2nd rounder.

 

[bigern1000]

I think he went back to school specifically to develop as a passer. I was one that didn't like his chances coming out this year. I am much more optimistic about him next year. I say 2nd rounder.

I agree with the possible reason he went back to school -- he's a smart guy who knows the skills he needs to work on to be successful on the next level. If he shows that improvement next season, I can see him as a later 1st rd pick...

 

[Clifton]

He'll go in the first round. No later than early 2nd.

 

[Zoomanji]

Tebow has average speed (for a QB) and little elusiveness, his trump card at the college level is his size and strength. He wont be able to run over NFL defenders. Put me in the category of people who say he is a second day pick, most of his passes arent even spirals.

I think he'll be able to run over NFL defenders.

Eventually he will get his clock cleaned and either find IR or screw up his throwing should enough to make him worthless. As a QB, you can only run so much in the NFL before it takes it's toll. See McNair. Probably could still be playing if he hadn't taken all those hits. His last few years were worthless. Kerry Collins who never runs, is still starting.

I could see Tebow being like a LenDale White.

Really?I didn't think he was lazy with a love of donuts.

 

[Dexter Manley]

Well Tebow is pretty much a Scott Frost clone with better passing skills. Since Frost was taken towards the top of the 3rd round by the Jets, I would be pretty surprised if Tebow wasn't drafted on day 1.

 

[Dexter Manley]

First rounder for sure.

He'll go down as the greatest college football player ever.

He's a winner and he loves to ball. Way too talented to slip down in the draft.

Pretty bold statement considering he didn't even start his freshman year and wasn't the best player on the field for his team in either national title game.

 

[FantasyTrader]

Tebow has average speed (for a QB) and little elusiveness, his trump card at the college level is his size and strength. He wont be able to run over NFL defenders. Put me in the category of people who say he is a second day pick, most of his passes arent even spirals.

I think he'll be able to run over NFL defenders.

Eventually he will get his clock cleaned and either find IR or screw up his throwing should enough to make him worthless. As a QB, you can only run so much in the NFL before it takes it's toll. See McNair. Probably could still be playing if he hadn't taken all those hits. His last few years were worthless. Kerry Collins who never runs, is still starting.

Picking a mobile QB who had a 13 year NFL career might not be the best example to try to prove the point you're trying to make here.

Few things I read ACTUALLY make me LOL! Classic.

 

[Balco]

According to Jon Gruden, he should be the 1st overall pick 'no question.'

I find Tebow absolutely fascinating. Few players will have accomplished as much as he has on such a big stage, and he's off the charts both as an athlete and as a person. Yet, he's flawed as a passer in most people's eyes.

Whereas I could understand the "he's not a 1st day pick" talk a month or two ago, seeing someone like Pat White go in the 2nd makes me wonder how a team won't talk themselves into taking him, at least in the late 1st round as a project. No?

I am in the camp that believes that he should be a late day 2 pick, but the bolded is true. It takes one team to think that they can turn him into a decent passer, or are enamored with his college stats (and not skill). I think he goes day 1, but as of right now, he does not warrant that type of grade. There have been many great college qb's who just didn't have the skill set to succeed in the rpos. Tebow is one of them.

 

[Foamboard]

First rounder for sure.

He'll go down as the greatest college football player ever.

He's a winner and he loves to ball. Way too talented to slip down in the draft.

Pretty bold statement considering he didn't even start his freshman year and wasn't the best player on the field for his team in either national title game.

Not a bold statement at all.Thanks for the interesting tidbits, though.

 

[Andy Herron]

I find Tebow absolutely fascinating. Few players will have accomplished as much as he has on such a big stage, and he's off the charts both as an athlete and as a person. Yet, he's flawed as a passer in most people's eyes.

Whereas I could understand the "he's not a 1st day pick" talk a month or two ago, seeing someone like Pat White go in the 2nd makes me wonder how a team won't talk themselves into taking him, at least in the late 1st round as a project. No?

This is essentially what I came to post. Not that it makes it right or should be deemed as a prerequisite though.Tebow will eventually be looked upon in the NFL as "a jack-of-a-few-trades but master of none" kind of player.

I don't see how he'll ever deliver as first-round value.

Quarterbacks are almost always overvalued simply because of the extreme desire and need.

There are very, very few exceptions.

Teams will forever swing for the fences with these guys. Most times they really have no choice.

It will always come down to the "maybe we'll get lucky" mentality.

 

[millertyme1]

If you're not sold on your QB, why not slowly develop Tebow and put him in on a couple packages a game?? Best part is you're not going to have to pay him the megabucks like Stafford/Sanchez/etc...

I think he's a Round 2 pick

 

[Weiner Dog]

He'll go in the first round. No later than early 2nd.

Bad teams usually have bad QB's and usually pick at the top of each round. Every bad team will not pass on Tebow two times in a row.

 

[Raider Nation]

That this question was even asked will appear mighty silly 11 months from now.

He's a SURE 1st-rounder. You always make certain your team has high-character winners. Figure out how to use him later.

 

[Wu-banger]

Matt Jones.. Pat White... the NFL did not shy away from these guys who had bigger question marks about them than Tebow.

Tebow is a 1st Rd pick next year , especially if he improves his throwing just a little bit.

McNair is a great comparison as a QB that I project Tebow to play like.

Tebow should kill in the interviews... kill in the combine... this would solidify his pick.

I am not a Gator fan , but seems like there are a lot of haters on Tebow for no reason.

 

[Truman]

With the wildcat and the spread offense gaining popularity in the NFL, this will only raise tebow's stock. The guy's a proven winner and leader, crazy not to at least give him a shot.

Spread yes. Wildcat will be dead by the end of this year. It's a gimmick. Tebow just needs to stay clear of my WR's and RB's. I don't need this idiot vulturing TDs.

Wildcat is just getting started. Miami puts in another 10 variations this offseason and it'll be an even more dangerous weapon. Nothing gimmicky about a formation which maximizes the threat of your best athletes while emphasizing good blocking and utilizing play action.Tebow has elite size and mobility for a prospect, his character and work ethic are exactly what you look for in a franchise QB you're looking to commit millions to. I don't think he slips to 2.

 

[JuSt CuZ]

He will be drafted on the first day.... but as a QB? NO.... scouts are already lookin at him for H-Back rolls!

Lets not for get this guy can play football, and he will continue at the next level, just not as a QB!

 

[jurb26]

Tebow is a 2nd round talent at this point of his career. Could he change that with an impressive 2009? Sure. I'm doubtful that he will though.

 

[rzrback77]

Tebow = Hansbrough

very hard working, tough, and a great leader. Don't think it transfers to the next level though.

 

[Bri]

Tebow is not Bradford

 

[Balco]

Tebow is not Bradford

Not in the same league in my opinion. Bradford is an elite qb prospect. Tebow has a ton too prove this year.

 

[weasel3515]

With the wildcat and the spread offense gaining popularity in the NFL, this will only raise tebow's stock. The guy's a proven winner and leader, crazy not to at least give him a shot.

Spread yes. Wildcat will be dead by the end of this year. It's a gimmick. Tebow just needs to stay clear of my WR's and RB's. I don't need this idiot vulturing TDs.

Wildcat is just getting started. Miami puts in another 10 variations this offseason and it'll be an even more dangerous weapon. Nothing gimmicky about a formation which maximizes the threat of your best athletes while emphasizing good blocking and utilizing play action.Tebow has elite size and mobility for a prospect, his character and work ethic are exactly what you look for in a franchise QB you're looking to commit millions to. I don't think he slips to 2.

Elite mobility? You can't be serious. He has below average mobility and relies on bull-rushing. That won't work in the NFL, he'll get his clock cleaned.

 

[weasel3515]

First rounder for sure.He'll go down as the greatest college football player ever.He's a winner and he loves to ball. Way too talented to slip down in the draft.

This qualifies as perhaps the biggest exaggeration of Tebow worship I have ever read. There are SO many players that could be called the "greatest college football player ever" that would be ranked light years ahead of Tebow:Archie Griffin (the only 2-time winner)O.J. Simpson (was simply one of the most electrifying players ever and also very talented with a knife)Paul Hornung (the only player to ever win from a losing team)Hershell Walker (dominated in his playing years, didn't have All-Americans supporting him at every position on his team either)Barry Sanders (perhaps the best RB ever to play)Nile Kinnick (played BOTH ways-and set all kinds of records in many categories)Even Reggie Bush was a more exciting and talented player than Tebow.This has to go down as the most inflated and biased statements of Tebow worship I have ever encountered.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

With the wildcat and the spread offense gaining popularity in the NFL, this will only raise tebow's stock. The guy's a proven winner and leader, crazy not to at least give him a shot.

Spread yes. Wildcat will be dead by the end of this year. It's a gimmick. Tebow just needs to stay clear of my WR's and RB's. I don't need this idiot vulturing TDs.

Based on what evidence?Seemed to be successful last year for the teams that used it.

 

[Bri]

Tebow is not Bradford

Not in the same league in my opinion. Bradford is an elite qb prospect. Tebow has a ton too prove this year.

"In so many words", I think Tebow is going to hear this often over the next years.

 

[Bri]

First rounder for sure.He'll go down as the greatest college football player ever.He's a winner and he loves to ball. Way too talented to slip down in the draft.

This qualifies as perhaps the biggest exaggeration of Tebow worship I have ever read. There are SO many players that could be called the "greatest college football player ever" that would be ranked light years ahead of Tebow:Archie Griffin (the only 2-time winner)O.J. Simpson (was simply one of the most electrifying players ever and also very talented with a knife)Paul Hornung (the only player to ever win from a losing team)Hershell Walker (dominated in his playing years, didn't have All-Americans supporting him at every position on his team either)Barry Sanders (perhaps the best RB ever to play)Nile Kinnick (played BOTH ways-and set all kinds of records in many categories)Even Reggie Bush was a more exciting and talented player than Tebow.This has to go down as the most inflated and biased statements of Tebow worship I have ever encountered.

so what do you think Tebow HAS accomplished?

 

[weasel3515]

Tebow has average speed (for a QB) and little elusiveness, his trump card at the college level is his size and strength. He wont be able to run over NFL defenders. Put me in the category of people who say he is a second day pick, most of his passes arent even spirals.

Perhaps the most accurate assessment of Tebow's abilities anyone here has written. He isn't particularly accurate (many of his dying duck passes were bailed out by his overly athletic WRs against defenders of a calibre they won't face in the NFL), he's quite a slow runner, he isn't elusive and his throwing motion (not including that idiotic jump-pass) is both slow and poor mechanically. He has worked exclusively in the shotgun with a spread-set and has poor footwork, something that doesn't translate to the NFL. Attempting to correct all of this in one final year is simply too much. Although I'd be willing to bet that some team (most likely the Jacksonville Jaguars in an attempt to sell more tickets to the local population of Tebow worshippers) will draft him on the first day (either the end of round one or in round two), I predict he will be a project at best for a team. Since the NFL is not a teaching league with the pressure to win now, he will not develop any more than Tavaris Jackson. In the end he'll either end up as a mediocre fullback or out of the league entirely in a few years.

 

[weasel3515]

First rounder for sure.He'll go down as the greatest college football player ever.He's a winner and he loves to ball. Way too talented to slip down in the draft.

This qualifies as perhaps the biggest exaggeration of Tebow worship I have ever read. There are SO many players that could be called the "greatest college football player ever" that would be ranked light years ahead of Tebow:Archie Griffin (the only 2-time winner)O.J. Simpson (was simply one of the most electrifying players ever and also very talented with a knife)Paul Hornung (the only player to ever win from a losing team)Hershell Walker (dominated in his playing years, didn't have All-Americans supporting him at every position on his team either)Barry Sanders (perhaps the best RB ever to play)Nile Kinnick (played BOTH ways-and set all kinds of records in many categories)Even Reggie Bush was a more exciting and talented player than Tebow.This has to go down as the most inflated and biased statements of Tebow worship I have ever encountered.

so what do you think Tebow HAS accomplished?

He's played on a team that won two "national titles" (see the recent furor in Congress over this terminology). He wasn't the starter for one team and wasn't the best player on the other. Put him on a losing team or a team not stocked will 5-star prospects and nobody would be worshipping him here. Statistically, he has accomplished nothing extraordinary.

 

[weasel3515]

Doubt about the Tebow worship? Check this out: http://www.totalprosports.com/blog/index.p...he-tim-teebows/

Pathetic.