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Will you get a Covid vaccine when available? (1 Viewer)
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Osaurus
Footballguy
Osaurus
Footballguy
I think Mrs. O just got a call from some sketchy person from the State asking her if she wanted a vaccine. She’ll try Walgreen’s with me Monday morning.
ETA: I am wondering why I haven’t been contacted by the state yet. In general, for any state, do counties coordinate with the state and know I made appointments through the county or vice versa?
ETA: I am wondering why I haven’t been contacted by the state yet. In general, for any state, do counties coordinate with the state and know I made appointments through the county or vice versa?
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DallasDMac
Footballguy
This was on the KABB news last night. Not exactly sure what I am supposed to backtrack on?matuski said:
matuski
Footballguy
Your accusations towards me... the misinformation and having some nefarious agenda part? It would seem in fact your information could be misleading as presented.
Kinda weird to go at someone like that over encouraging people to not wait on vaccination.
But judge away - you watched the news.
Zasada
Footballguy
Nope, not certain. I read it in an article (can't recall which) a couple of weeks ago.The Z Machine said:
Others are saying that TX is fairly easy now to get vaccinated. Have to agree. You just have to put in a bit of effort and perhaps be willing to drive an hour or two. Every time I check the CVS website, there's availability in the smaller towns.
Just checked again right now, and there's even availability in Arlington (where I live). That's no small town.
ETA:
This site shows dose allocation by county. Just a quick check shows that Angelina county got 2,000 doses this week. That's one dose for every 43 people in that county.
Tarrant county (where I live) got 15,180 doses. That's one dose for every 138 people in the county.
So with my brief sampling, the rural counties are getting more doses per head than the urban ones.
ETA2: Checked another. Aransas county 1 in 20.
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ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
Quite possible. Nurse told me infected people had a tougher time with first shot. Opposite for non-affected.caustic said:
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
Maybe it was a roofie?jobarules said:
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I don't understand how to process this statement, unless you're trying to say that you feel awesome in kind of an elliptical way.culdeus said:
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
This is just me, but I can chime in on both of these.culdeus said:
First of all, I did not get a card at all when I went in for my first shot. They told us they aren't giving those out until we get shot #2. The reason why that's feasible is because the mass vaccination event that I went to for shot #1 included automatic, mandatory registration at a second event coming up in a couple of weeks for shot #2. In principle, the exact same people should show up for both, at the same time of day even.
I am super-skeptical that vaccination cards are going to be used for anything going forward. I'm not opposed to that, just that the logistical issues that you mentioned really reduce their usefulness for anything serious.
Second, as luck would have it my doctor retired and I just went in yesterday to see my new doctor for an routine physical and start-of-care appointment. My first shot was in their system. I could see something enforceable coming from honest-to-goodness medical records, maybe.
top dog
Footballguy
About 5 hrs post shot #1 arm is sore, but not bad. I'm kind of tired but not sure if that is due to the shot or sleeping on the couch all week to avoid the wife. She had a cold (tested negative for covid on Sunday) and I wasnt going to let her mess up my chance at my first round of shots. 
Osaurus
Footballguy
So I got a call from the State (FL) for a vaccine. I get through all the questions, she puts me on hold, comes back, and tells me all times for this Tuesday were all gone since the call started. I was told someone would get back to me in a day or two. Lol. WTH? No coordination whatsoever has been verified.
neal cassady
Footballguy
Got my second Pfizer shot this morning. Went for a 6 mile walk an hour after the shot. Feel completely normal at the moment. My arm was sore for about 10 hours after shot #1, so I’m awaiting that.
LFG
eaganwildcats
Footballguy
I’m actually headed on a road trip tomorrow so pretty pleased I won’t have to deal with the side effects while on the road (hopefully).
mr. furley
Footballguy
my arm was sore as hell until mid-day yesterday and i just started feeling normal again around dinner last night.ChiefD said:
mr. furley
Footballguy
drunken slob
Footballguy
Wife got the J&J yesterday, Friday 27th, at 8:30 am, I got the J&J same day at 1:30 pm
Wife had no issues with the injection site or muscle soreness. Saturday she was groggy and had a headache. Trooper that she is, still took care of her spring cleaning goals. She's a tough cookie
I've had no side effects, fortunately. Tomorrow may be a different story, but I can't complain about anything at this time.
Thanks to all the folks that made this happen.
Wife had no issues with the injection site or muscle soreness. Saturday she was groggy and had a headache. Trooper that she is, still took care of her spring cleaning goals. She's a tough cookie
I've had no side effects, fortunately. Tomorrow may be a different story, but I can't complain about anything at this time.
Thanks to all the folks that made this happen.
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
I feel like this the expectation of feeling like #### after the second shot is getting blown out of proportion. Most people are fine.
I'd say it's 50/50 from the people I know. Right now 12+ hours for me. I'm hoping nothing tonight.
I’d say from my experience, it’s about 25% who get hit hard from either dose of the Moderna. A bad first dose is usually in people who had COVID. Most people are not getting much more than a sore arm and minor exhaustion.
Osaurus
Footballguy
I keep checking CVS and Walgreen’s for appointments through Thursday. Looks like CVS does Phizer on Mondays and Thursdays so tomorrow is the only day that works there for me (leaving town Thursday). Walgreen’s has Moderna appointments Tuesday and Wednesday near me. I think Walgreen’s is the best bet for me and Mrs. O. Just waiting for my eligibility to open at midnight.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Wife is worse today. No fever, but she still has body aches and now has nausea. She is also dizzy.
top dog
Footballguy
Probably should change the title of this thread to "Report you side effects from the COVID Shot" 
Over 24 hours from shot #1 Moderna for me now. Last night my arm hurt pretty bad and I was generally achy (knees were killing me, have bad ones). Today feel normal. Arm only mildly hurts when I lift it high enough. Going to install a overhead racking system in my garage this afternoon. Wouldn't do that if the pain with my arms over my head was really bad.
Totally worth it. I'm now am scouring the sign up sites for a J&J shot for my wife.
Over 24 hours from shot #1 Moderna for me now. Last night my arm hurt pretty bad and I was generally achy (knees were killing me, have bad ones). Today feel normal. Arm only mildly hurts when I lift it high enough. Going to install a overhead racking system in my garage this afternoon. Wouldn't do that if the pain with my arms over my head was really bad.
Totally worth it. I'm now am scouring the sign up sites for a J&J shot for my wife.
DallasDMac
Footballguy
My daughter had her first shot after having COVID way back in July. She said yesterday she felt worse than when she had COVID. I had warned her to be ready for it and not make plans. She was more pissed I was right than she was thankful for the advice.
glvsav37
Footballguy
NYS is instituting the "Excelsior Pass" which is an app with a QR barcode that you will have to scan to prove you have ben vaccinated. Right now they say it will only be used at large venues like sports and theaters, but I do not doubt that it will soon become mandatory for places like restaurants and shopping, and yes, travel.
As a NY'er and someone who is choosing not to get the vax right now I am very pissed about this. Yes, going to a sporting event is something that is a luxury, but this is a form of discrimination. It is a "well you can sit home and watch everyone have fun......orrrrr got get the shot." To me that is not a fair trade off...its a gov't shake down over a shot that is only still approved for emergency use.
If you got the shot and feel comfortable with it, thats your choice, but the gov't holding events and daily luxuries hostage for those of us who don't feel comfortable with the shot is goes fully against our rights to choose.
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Capella
Footballguy
No. It’s the greatest public health crisis of our lifetime and hundreds of thousands have died. If you don’t want it for whatever reason (it’s extremely safe but you probably know that) then you should be told to stay back. That’s the trade-off. Zero sympathy for anybody refusing the shot at all.
Zasada
Footballguy
Fully supportive of this approach. If I'm going to a large venue, I would like to ensure that others are vaccinated as well.
Same thing as not wanting unvaccinated kids (measels, etc) at school.
I appreciate that it's your choice to not get the vaccine, but then it's also your choice to not go to events which require a vaccine. Same as masks. No shirt, no shoes, no mask, no vaccine, no service.
glvsav37
Footballguy
@Capella and @Zasada
trying to keep the conversation civil, from what I know, the vaccine only helps reduce your symptoms if you got it. It does not stop you from getting Covid or spreading it. So if thats the case, anyone in those venues could still give covid to you, it just that if they did, you would not get as sick if you got it.
So why would it mater if I was vaccinated or not? I would be the one taking the risk.
but to individual points:
Capella: I dont know if it is safe. If I knew it was safe, I wouldn't think 2x about taking it. Again, its approved for emergency use, no long term studies have been done and the fact that the manufacturers cannot be held liable for future side effects worries me. I dont want to be calling an 800 number in 5 years after seeing a commercial saying" if you had the covid vax and your arm fell off, call...".
Zas: Yes, its my choice to go to large venues, and I'm ok with that. But what about when this is required at the supermarket, or a restaurant? What about a family event? does anyone think this will only be for large events? Again, going on my thoughts above that the Vax only really protects me, why would my being there be a threat to anyone else?
Also to your measles vax comment. I am not anti-vax. My kids are vaxed agaisnt all of those (except my daughter who medically cant be). But those have been around for years and well tested over generations.
trying to keep the conversation civil, from what I know, the vaccine only helps reduce your symptoms if you got it. It does not stop you from getting Covid or spreading it. So if thats the case, anyone in those venues could still give covid to you, it just that if they did, you would not get as sick if you got it.
So why would it mater if I was vaccinated or not? I would be the one taking the risk.
but to individual points:
Capella: I dont know if it is safe. If I knew it was safe, I wouldn't think 2x about taking it. Again, its approved for emergency use, no long term studies have been done and the fact that the manufacturers cannot be held liable for future side effects worries me. I dont want to be calling an 800 number in 5 years after seeing a commercial saying" if you had the covid vax and your arm fell off, call...".
Zas: Yes, its my choice to go to large venues, and I'm ok with that. But what about when this is required at the supermarket, or a restaurant? What about a family event? does anyone think this will only be for large events? Again, going on my thoughts above that the Vax only really protects me, why would my being there be a threat to anyone else?
Also to your measles vax comment. I am not anti-vax. My kids are vaxed agaisnt all of those (except my daughter who medically cant be). But those have been around for years and well tested over generations.
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You do realize it also shows a negative covid test result as well as a vaccination, don't you?
Personally I wouldn't care if it was only for a vaccination, but if you're complaining about having to either be vaccinated or show proof of a negative test in order to enter a huge venue full of people, sorry, I have zero sympathy for that. I hope (and expect) that will be common for lots of things like restaurants and travel as well.
top dog
Footballguy
Probably because the goal is to limit the number of people getting very sick and/or dying. People that end up in the hospital end up putting a drain on resources for everyone. I guess it is kind of like seat belt laws. Not wearing a seat belt mostly only puts you at risk, but if you end up needing EMS and hospital resources unnecessarily, it is no long just the individual's problem.
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Zasada
Footballguy
Thanks for trying to keep this cool. I will try the same!
The science is still unclear on this. So I feel more comfortable if all involved in a gathering are vaccinated. Even for my own health/safety, and that of my wife's.
The part I am more sure about, is that for society to reach herd immunity, we need everyone getting vaccinated. Much like the measles vaccine. Parents choosing to not get their kids vaccinated, is, in theory, just their risk. But then we have measles outbreaks, which are no good for society. And could infect a child or person who couldn't get the vaccine for some medical reason.
I see COVID the same way. The faster everyone gets vaccinated, the faster society gets through this.
glvsav37
Footballguy
I would get behind this line of thinking if we took this mindset with many other things that historically has caused more deaths and medical drain ....like smoking, or the epidemic of obesity.Probably because the goal is to limit the number of people getting very sick and/or dying. People that end up in the hospital end up putting a drain on resources for everyone. I guess it is kind of like seat belt lives. Not wearing a seat belt mostly only puts you at risk, but if you end up needing EMS and hospital resources unnecessarily, it is no long just the individual's problem.
Capella
Footballguy
This is a straw man argument. Obesity is not a contagious airborne disease. I fully respect and understand your right to not get vaccinated and you should in turn respect society’s decision to not want you in a crowded venue potentially spreading a disease.
I know you’re a Disney fan - if you don’t think Disney is going to require this for entry once it’s readily available to everybody I don’t know what to tell you.
glvsav37
Footballguy
I get what you are saying, esp right now. Going to a game is a luxury and one that I can live without in the short term. But if I know gov't things like this don't just stay at large events, they will trickle down to normal everyday things like supermarkets and going to a restaurant. And they don't just go away....if instituted we will be showing "our code" for everything for a very long time.
Yes I get that it shows a neg test, and I'm cool with that if I'm gonig on vacation or something liek that. But unless they come out with a home covid test it would be hard to get one each time you walked out the door.
Capella
Footballguy
With vaccines they almost always know within 3 months what the side effects are. I don’t have the time to regurgitate all of it right now but there is tons tons of literature out there speaking to the safety of these vaccines. It’s not going to be an issue where you grow a tail 5 years from now. And from a public health standpoint the dangers of covid outweigh any potential vax side effects by a hilariously large amount.
Also yes you are taking the risk but maybe my kid is there and they can’t get the shot yet. So you are potentially putting them at risk.
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top dog
Footballguy
It is easier to coordinate and police someone wear a seatbelt or have a vaccination. Not sure how you would do the same with obesity.
glvsav37
Footballguy
this is my question that no one can answer though. From what I have read, even if vax'ed you can still catch and spread covid. So how is there a difference between non-vaxed and vaxed people spreading it?
and yes, I fully expect Disney to use this. However its interesting as so far no major outbreaks (that I know of) have been linked to Disney without using any type of vax proof.
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
We don't have enough data to give conclusive numbers but vaccinated people will be way way less likely to spread COVID.
culdeus
Footballguy
This talking point is getting nauseous. It's driven by russian bots and right wing agitators to sow an anti vax agenda.
There is enough evidence now to say that the effective level flows two ways. Both for spread and contagion. In that way you likely can put an exponent on the effectiveness where two people whom are vaxxed come into contact where one is + and spreading.
glvsav37
Footballguy
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