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:( He did last night, I mean seriously if it wasn't a RBBC situation Parker would have had 300. I think that you have to take the splitting carries into consideration each week.
Did you watch the game? Davenports carries were in the 4th quarter of a blow out. No reason to keep FWP in there. some people .
Did you watch the game? Davenports carries were in the 4th quarter of a blow out. No reason to keep FWP in there. some people .
sorry that you didn't catch it.
Not sure about Wood, but FBG had Parker at #8 at the beginning of the season and that's about right in my league (he's 7th not counting last night's game - but will probably bump up a spot or two).
1 big game? Dude is on pace for a 1,400+ yard season, which is above where I projected him - and he already has 13 TDs with 3 games left, where I projected about 9. He's exceeded expectations and at this point is justifying those who picked him late first, early second round.
Yep GDB loser bumps!It's one thing to dig up a thread from preseason but this thread is from the first half of the season LAST YEAR.
Isn't hindsight great? tee hee, giggle
I thought the "he can't carry the load" was overblown too - in fact that's why I drafted him in one of my 2 leagues - but if it had turned out they needed to complement him with more of a power back, I wouldn't have been shocked.Just figures that in that particular league I'm already out of the playoffs while in the other one the guy who owns him I need to lose. 
I hate FWP.
I guess I didn't phrase myself well. I agree with you and have loved having him as my #2 in one of my leagues and kicking myself mightily for trading him for what ended up being Chris Chambers and Randy Moss in another league. But to wait that amount of time to bump a thread is just ridiculous. The guy has been a very nice RB for most people that took him. But bumping a thread that's about a year old because somebody played out of their mind for a game is just silly.ETA: I guess my major beef is just how long it took to bump the thread. I'm not a big fan of bumping threads to brag in the first place, let alone threads this old.
This is a not a typical "look, see!" bump. There were threads upon threads in '05 with a few of us defending FWP while most of the board said he was too small, lacked the pedigree, can't carry the load, blah blah blah. Here we are nearly two full seasons later and he's held up just fine.There was some crow to be eaten, but no one ever did. Oh well.Yep GDB loser bumps!It's one thing to dig up a thread from preseason but this thread is from the first half of the season LAST YEAR.
Welcome to the world of fantasy football prognostication. Everyone will always tell you about all of the guys that they were right on while rarely mentioning the guys that they were wrong on. Everyone that has been in fantasy football for more than a few years understands that. Most fantasy football veterans also just understand that there will be guys that they are right about and guys that they will be wrong about. They don't need to thump their chests when they are right because they remember the guys that they got wrong too and understand that it's all about learning something from your mistakes as well.This is a not a typical "look, see!" bump. There were threads upon threads in '05 with a few of us defending FWP while most of the board said he was too small, lacked the pedigree, can't carry the load, blah blah blah. Here we are nearly two full seasons later and he's held up just fine.There was some crow to be eaten, but no one ever did. Oh well.Yep GDB loser bumps!It's one thing to dig up a thread from preseason but this thread is from the first half of the season LAST YEAR.
Did you watch the game? Davenports carries were in the 4th quarter of a blow out. No reason to keep FWP in there. some people .
Spectacular....
Sure, I just think Willie Parker was a special case. He was clearly Cowher's favorite and the starting RB role in Pittsburgh was his for the taking, yet nearly everyone on this board tried their hardest to bury Willie under guys like Duce Staley, Verron Haynes, and Najeh Davenport simply because he was kinda small and undrafted. It was easily the worst case of denial I've seen on this board in my few years of being here.Welcome to the world of fantasy football prognostication. Everyone will always tell you about all of the guys that they were right on while rarely mentioning the guys that they were wrong on. Everyone that has been in fantasy football for more than a few years understands that. Most fantasy football veterans also just understand that there will be guys that they are right about and guys that they will be wrong about. They don't need to thump their chests when they are right because they remember the guys that they got wrong too and understand that it's all about learning something from your mistakes as well.This is a not a typical "look, see!" bump. There were threads upon threads in '05 with a few of us defending FWP while most of the board said he was too small, lacked the pedigree, can't carry the load, blah blah blah. Here we are nearly two full seasons later and he's held up just fine.There was some crow to be eaten, but no one ever did. Oh well.Yep GDB loser bumps!It's one thing to dig up a thread from preseason but this thread is from the first half of the season LAST YEAR.
Not that I feel the need to defend anybody's opinion.... but this post WAS started over a year ago.This isn't nearly as humorous as those who tried to write off Larry Johnson after Week 2. Though I guess it shouldn't surprise me to see many of the same characters represented in this thread.Bettis getting a ton of work and the goal line carries...looks like FWP isn't the greatest thing since sliced bread after all.
Isn't it amazing how so many could be so wrong? Too bad they won't admit it. All of these "Willie can't carry the load" threads have fallen into obscurity.
So where's Willie now?I said FWP would be a top 10 RB in 2006. NFL.OK, so you play in a league where only Rushing yds matter.... rec yds and TDs are not even scored. Congrats on you're top 3 RB thus far.
[jeffersons] Movin' on up [/jeffersons]nightshift said:So where's Willie now?I said FWP would be a top 10 RB in 2006. NFL.OK, so you play in a league where only Rushing yds matter.... rec yds and TDs are not even scored. Congrats on you're top 3 RB thus far.
I don't disagree with that at all. That seems to be the culture of the Shark Pool, though.GroveDiesel said:
The FBG MODtastics merged a number of threads, some dating back to prehistoric time.
During the game (late 1st or early 2nd Qrt I think) Collinsworth made a comment that last year, and previous years, the Steelers pounded the ball with Bettis. This year, Collinsworth says, the Steelers are relying on Rothlisberger to do too much and are passing a lot more. This may have some truth to it. But then he goes on to say the Steelers need to get back to running the ball and next year they need to get a guy in there that can do that.I was amazed at the comment. So much so I replayed the comment (TIVO) to make sure I heard him correctly. He clearly says they need to get a guy in here that can pound the ball. I understand if you don't like a particular player, but it just doesn't make you look good to make statements that are clearly off the mark. To say a guy can't pound it whjen he has already gone over 200 once this year doesn't make sense. I was waiting for Collinsworth to back off his statements after Parker went for over 200 last night, but I never heard him mention it. I have nothing against him but that really isn't fair for him to knock FWP like that.
It continues to amaze me that the "experts" think the Steelers MUST have a "Bettis-type" RB to be successful. It is obvious that FWP can be the primary and GL back(13 TD's!!!). 3 of those are receiving, so he can do that also. The only knock I can give is pass blocking. He struggles(like most feature backs, BTW) with a blitzing LB running full speed. I think that can be worked on during the offseason, though.For my money, he is easily top 10, pushing top 5 RB.This_Guy said:
Maybe he wasn't really knocking FWP. Fast Willie is obviously a very good RB and deserving of being considered among the best. He has become a much better inside runner, short yardage guy than I thought he would. Having said that, a bruising RB like Bettis just brings something that a RB like Parker can't. Bettis's punishing running style physically challenges and wears down an opposing defense much moreso than a FWP. Last year the Steelers tended to rely more on Parker in the 1st half and then use Bettis more in the 2nd to wear out the D and run out the clock to protect the lead. I don't remember the Collinsworth statement about Parker vividly, but a case can be made to add a big, bruising type back.
Did you watch the game? It sure seemed to me that when Davenport was in the Cleveland defense was ridiculously worn down. They were pretty much a beaten team. If you look at Parkers two best games yardage wise, Thursday's and against NO, he had over 100 yards in both games in the second half. He had aboue half his yards on Thursday in the 3rd Quarter alone and barely played in the 4th.One of the announcers actually mentioned that he gets better the more carries he gets. I have no idea if he was just filling air time or if it was statistically true. It is hard to tell from the game log because he has great 20+ carry games like Thursday and bad ones like last week 22-61. Even last week though, I think he started off ridiculously bad and to be honest 3 ypc was actually good at the end of the game compared to where he was.Not that it mattered to me as I would have kept Parker no matter what (very late round keeper), but I posted about Parker in a pre-season thread. I personally have seen a huge difference in Parker from 2005 to 2006. In 2005, he was supposed to be a change of pace RB, not the starter (until Bettis and Staley were confirmed out), so he wasn't in 300 carry shape IMHO. In 2006, he knew he was the starter and it sure seems like he looks like a totally different RB ready to carry a 300+ carry load. I think there are a lot of people that don't realize that he isn't the scat back anymore.
That is a question I hope to have to answer because it means I'll be in the Super Bowl.Pittsburgh will be at home and they will be out for blood. Baltimore will likely have sealed up a playoff spot. I wouldn't expect him to run wild but I would expect a much better performance than 2 weeks ago.I will have a tough decision as I have Duece, J Lewis A Green and B westbrook as well as FWP. I only benched FWP once this year and I paid the price.
Same here. Granted, he's been better at home but after watching Balt shut him down and totally overpower the Steelers O-line
I definatly agree with you regarding Parker, and I think he should be a strong candidate for most improved player. I was just making a point that it's not inconceivable to think the Steelers might want to add a bruiser to complement FWP for the reasons stated in my above post.
Absolutly agree here and great post. Parker has improved by leaps and bounds this year IMO. I'm sorry I doubted him now. I never would have guessed he was capable of reaching the endzone 16 times and that simpl y is the difference this year. He has improved in his short yardage rushing, hits the hole more decievly and runs with greater power. Great year for Parker and all his owners. Congrats. I look forward to another top 5 finish from him next season!
