willis mcgahee (1 Viewer)

[a_rackowski]

has he been at practice? he still on track for a week 1 start? If he doesnt play, I think Ray Rice would be a huge play.

 

[BigTex]

has he been at practice? he still on track for a week 1 start? If he doesnt play, I think Ray Rice would be a huge play.

LOL, no he hasn't been practicing with the team if that's what you're asking and no.

 

[davidwb]

Looks like it will be Ray Rice and Joe Flaco in the backfield for the Ravens against the Bengals.

 

[a_rackowski]

Thanks - I wasnt sure if he has had a team practice yet or not. One week to go with a great week one matchup.........

 

[shakeybarn]

saw this; Aug 28 Baltimore Ravens RB Willis McGahee (knee) is expected to be available to play during Week 1, but his surgically repaired knee may not be 100 percent healthy for the first few games of the season.

 

[FFdork]

This is from Fanball:

08/29/08 07:49 AM

THE NEWS

It is unlikely that Ravens running back Willis McGahee will play in Week 1 due to his knee injury, and he is still walking with a limp, according to Sporting News Today.

Our View

McGahee had arthroscopic knee surgery early in camp, and has been missing in action ever since. Yet another reminder that handcuffing Ray Rice to McGahee is important in fantasy drafts.

 

[Todem]

I think it is safe to assume McGahee is not a guy you want in the line up for the first week probably 2. But Starting week 3 he will resume his workhorse role.

I think Ray Rice is a great play against that second rate defense they roll out in Cincy.

 

[kerpow]

He's my RB2 but I have enough depth that I can afford to bench him for a couple of weeks. I'm more worried about what happens when he does come back. Will it be an RBBC, will he try to carry too much too soon? Of all the players I own in 2 leagues, he is giving me the most concern. I'm hoping that when he does return he puts up decent numbers and then I'll sell high.

 

[Chachi]

Rice vs. Cincy or T. Jones vs. Miami???

 

[Todem]

Rice vs. Cincy or T. Jones vs. Miami???

That is a dandy match up.

 

[Cookiemonster]

Rice vs. Cincy or T. Jones vs. Miami???

Rice is the only game in town. Ravens have no other option (besides scoring 21 w/ D&ST). Flacco? R U kidding? Cincy is a sieve. Not a tough choice. Me speak short.

 

[gregjcross]

Rice vs. Cincy or T. Jones vs. Miami???

Rice is the only game in town. Ravens have no other option (besides scoring 21 w/ D&ST). Flacco? R U kidding? Cincy is a sieve. Not a tough choice. Me speak short.

Pro Football Weekly reported today in whispers he has been seen limping, but not associated with any particular practice. FWIW.PASTED IN Aug. 31, 2008 Word out of Baltimore is that RB Willis McGahee still appears to be limping around as he continues to recover from the knee surgery he underwent almost three weeks ago. Sources say there’s little chance he’ll be 100 percent by the season opener, and even if he plays, count on seeing a lot of rookie RB Ray Rice.

 

[joffer]

Rice vs. Cincy or T. Jones vs. Miami???

Rice is the only game in town. Ravens have no other option (besides scoring 21 w/ D&ST). Flacco? R U kidding? Cincy is a sieve. Not a tough choice. Me speak short.

Pro Football Weekly reported today in whispers he has been seen limping, but not associated with any particular practice. FWIW.PASTED IN Aug. 31, 2008 Word out of Baltimore is that RB Willis McGahee still appears to be limping around as he continues to recover from the knee surgery he underwent almost three weeks ago. Sources say there’s little chance he’ll be 100 percent by the season opener, and even if he plays, count on seeing a lot of rookie RB Ray Rice.

this seems to be the same story that's being regurgitated from the Sporting News "report" a week ago. i don't think there's been anything new on McGahee since then, which is telling in itself.

 

[The Kerminator]

per KFFL...

Ravens | McGahee practices Monday, expected to start Week 1

Mon, 1 Sep 2008 17:16:09 -0700

Jamison Hensley, of the Baltimore Sun, reports Baltimore Ravens RB Willis McGahee (knee) practiced Monday, Sept. 1, and he is expected to start Week 1. Head coach John Harbaugh said McGahee's knee is still not at 100 percent

Link

 

[joffer]

per KFFL...

Ravens | McGahee practices Monday, expected to start Week 1

Mon, 1 Sep 2008 17:16:09 -0700

Jamison Hensley, of the Baltimore Sun, reports Baltimore Ravens RB Willis McGahee (knee) practiced Monday, Sept. 1, and he is expected to start Week 1. Head coach John Harbaugh said McGahee's knee is still not at 100 percent

Link

good find. finally some news

 

[The Man With No Name]

Rice in the preseason-

26-146-1

10 rec. 44 yards

 

[Chaka]

Rice in the preseason-26-146-1 10 rec. 44 yards

And then?

 

[BDubs]

per KFFL...

Ravens | McGahee practices Monday, expected to start Week 1

Mon, 1 Sep 2008 17:16:09 -0700

Jamison Hensley, of the Baltimore Sun, reports Baltimore Ravens RB Willis McGahee (knee) practiced Monday, Sept. 1, and he is expected to start Week 1. Head coach John Harbaugh said McGahee's knee is still not at 100 percent

Link

Rotoworld also cited this beat writer, but didn't seem as sure about McGahee starting:Ravens RB Willis McGahee (knee surgery) and CB Chris McAlister (knee) returned to practice Monday.

"I wouldn’t say he’s 100 percent just [from] watching him run around out there," coach John Harbaugh said of McGahee. Be sure to track his progress throughout the week as it's too early to tell if he or Ray Rice will get the start against the Bengals. Expect Rice to see significant action in the opener even if McGahee does go.

link

McGahee starting doesn't seem to be a sure thing from reading Harbaugh's comments in the beat writer's blog.

"I wouldn’t say he’s 100 percent just [from] watching him run around out there," Harbaugh said of McGahee. "But he was out there. We’ll just have to see how he progresses this week. He wants to be out there, I know that.”

Disclaimer: Rice owner

 

[Frank Black]

McGahee can't play this week. Ray Rice is supposed to take over the world in week 1. Seriously, it seems better for the Ravens to sit McGahee out this week and give him an extra week to heal, rather than risk further injury. What better time to sit him out than against Cincy?

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Rice in the preseason-26-146-1 10 rec. 44 yards

He made some guys miss on those 10 receptions for 44 - he got as much as he could out of them.

 

[harryhood]

McGahee can't play this week. Ray Rice is supposed to take over the world in week 1. Seriously, it seems better for the Ravens to sit McGahee out this week and give him an extra week to heal, rather than risk further injury. What better time to sit him out than against Cincy?

Not good news for those of us who were confident starting Ray Ray WK1.The Baltimore Sun reports Baltimore Ravens RB Willis McGahee (knee) practiced Monday, Sept. 1, and he is expected to start Week 1. Head coach John Harbaugh said McGahee's knee is still not at 100 percent.

 

[Young 8]

McGahee can't play this week. Ray Rice is supposed to take over the world in week 1. Seriously, it seems better for the Ravens to sit McGahee out this week and give him an extra week to heal, rather than risk further injury. What better time to sit him out than against Cincy?

ROFTL based on what ??

 

[bucsbaby]

So is McGahee going to play just enough that there is not enough value to start either him or Rice week 1

 

[Frank Black]

McGahee can't play this week. Ray Rice is supposed to take over the world in week 1. Seriously, it seems better for the Ravens to sit McGahee out this week and give him an extra week to heal, rather than risk further injury. What better time to sit him out than against Cincy?

ROFTL based on what ??

I didn't mean that McGahee cannot play this week for physical reasons. I meant that he can't play because there would be an outcry from the FF community that believes that Rice will take over the world in week 1.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

McGahee can't play this week. Ray Rice is supposed to take over the world in week 1. Seriously, it seems better for the Ravens to sit McGahee out this week and give him an extra week to heal, rather than risk further injury. What better time to sit him out than against Cincy?

ROFTL based on what ??

McGahee is a bum. That is all.-signed, Ray Rice.

 

[Riflemen]

I fully expect the dreaded "has experienced swelling in his surgically repaired knee" news to hit the wire in the next 24 hours. If you drafted McGahee (as I have) you must handcuff him this year with Rice. Hopefully Harbaugh is not of the Shanahan/Parcells/Belechek ilk and will release early and accurate injury info.

 

[sholditch]

Ravens RB Willis McGahee (knee surgery) and CB Chris McAlister (knee) returned to practice Monday.

"I wouldn’t say he’s 100 percent just [from] watching him run around out there," coach John Harbaugh said of McGahee. Be sure to track his progress throughout the week as it's too early to tell if he or Ray Rice will get the start against the Bengals. Expect Rice to see significant action in the opener even if McGahee does go.

And I assume is there again today. I bet he starts week 1-16. This is a perfect example of the groupthink of this board gone wrong. Everyone wants McGahee to be out and everyone wants there to be a really good RB value in rounds 6-9 so everyone implicitly agrees that McGahee is done in Baltimore and that Rice will be a huge value play. I bet Rice sees < 130 carries.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Ravens RB Willis McGahee (knee surgery) and CB Chris McAlister (knee) returned to practice Monday.

"I wouldn’t say he’s 100 percent just [from] watching him run around out there," coach John Harbaugh said of McGahee. Be sure to track his progress throughout the week as it's too early to tell if he or Ray Rice will get the start against the Bengals. Expect Rice to see significant action in the opener even if McGahee does go.

And I assume is there again today. I bet he starts week 1-16. This is a perfect example of the groupthink of this board gone wrong. Everyone wants McGahee to be out and everyone wants there to be a really good RB value in rounds 6-9 so everyone implicitly agrees that McGahee is done in Baltimore and that Rice will be a huge value play. I bet Rice sees < 130 carries.

Let's see, Selvin Young only had 118, Ryan Grant 182, Michael Turner 60, Barber 197, Watson 157, Maroney 166, so the 130 isn't exactly going out on a limb.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Ravens RB Willis McGahee (knee surgery) and CB Chris McAlister (knee) returned to practice Monday.

"I wouldn’t say he’s 100 percent just [from] watching him run around out there," coach John Harbaugh said of McGahee. Be sure to track his progress throughout the week as it's too early to tell if he or Ray Rice will get the start against the Bengals. Expect Rice to see significant action in the opener even if McGahee does go.

And I assume is there again today. I bet he starts week 1-16. This is a perfect example of the groupthink of this board gone wrong. Everyone wants McGahee to be out and everyone wants there to be a really good RB value in rounds 6-9 so everyone implicitly agrees that McGahee is done in Baltimore and that Rice will be a huge value play. I bet Rice sees < 130 carries.

Well it's at least "everybody minus one". If you read my posts in the various McGahee/Rice threads, you'd know my arguments were never based on "wanting" McGahee to be out or on wanting to crow about my Sharkiness because I touted Rice. My concern with McGahee was (& remains) twofold:1. Until yesterday, he hadn't practiced nor had any reps in a new offense. Thus he couldn't play himself into shape nor could he get a feel for his teammates in the offense.

2. He admitted himself he was having trouble with the new playbook.

Those are red flags to me. As a Ravens fan, I want the best players to play & I think a healthy (both mentally & physically) Willis is the better option right now. Unfortunately, he's neither at this point.

Completely separate from these concerns is my belief that Ray Rice has what it takes to be a good player in the NFL.

 

[sholditch]

My point was mainly that a new promising rookie always represents change, change represents opportunity, and opportunity is a chance for sharks to use their knowledge to beat their opponents. Because of this, people that actively follow FF will almost always, consciously or subconsciously, want the change to occur in order for the opportunity to present itself.

In the NFL, change is less common than we want it to be. McGahee was a productive back last year. If he had seriously slipped that would be one thing, but a minor knee ailment and being a little behind on the playbook do not in reality present the opportunity that FF players think it will. IMO, unless Willis goes down, there is no way that Rice starts any games this season. I pulled 130 carries out of my hat but I do think that is Rice's ceiling barring a major injury to Willis.

 

[faux_bear]

My point was mainly that a new promising rookie always represents change, change represents opportunity, and opportunity is a chance for sharks to use their knowledge to beat their opponents. Because of this, people that actively follow FF will almost always, consciously or subconsciously, want the change to occur in order for the opportunity to present itself. In the NFL, change is less common than we want it to be. McGahee was a productive back last year. If he had seriously slipped that would be one thing, but a minor knee ailment and being a little behind on the playbook do not in reality present the opportunity that FF players think it will. IMO, unless Willis goes down, there is no way that Rice starts any games this season. I pulled 130 carries out of my hat but I do think that is Rice's ceiling barring a major injury to Willis.

 

[hotlanta]

My point was mainly that a new promising rookie always represents change, change represents opportunity, and opportunity is a chance for sharks to use their knowledge to beat their opponents. Because of this, people that actively follow FF will almost always, consciously or subconsciously, want the change to occur in order for the opportunity to present itself. In the NFL, change is less common than we want it to be. McGahee was a productive back last year. If he had seriously slipped that would be one thing, but a minor knee ailment and being a little behind on the playbook do not in reality present the opportunity that FF players think it will. IMO, unless Willis goes down, there is no way that Rice starts any games this season. I pulled 130 carries out of my hat but I do think that is Rice's ceiling barring a major injury to Willis.

I agree completely. An established back like McGahee, coming off a good year, is not going to get the boot for a high upside rookie. THhs is where fantasy football is different than real football. From a Harbaugh standpoint, putting in Rice over the vet is not going to help his team win. I think guys like Rice, CJ, Stewart, Mendanhall are getting way overhyped and drafted early and it almost never works out that way. The vet (assuming he stays healthy) almost always prevails. I remember when Maroney was drafted and he absolutely lit up the preseason and his hype was huge around here, but once the season started, all we saw was Corey Dillon. There are many other similar examples from the last few years.

 

[PACKER 7]

My point was mainly that a new promising rookie always represents change, change represents opportunity, and opportunity is a chance for sharks to use their knowledge to beat their opponents. Because of this, people that actively follow FF will almost always, consciously or subconsciously, want the change to occur in order for the opportunity to present itself. In the NFL, change is less common than we want it to be. McGahee was a productive back last year. If he had seriously slipped that would be one thing, but a minor knee ailment and being a little behind on the playbook do not in reality present the opportunity that FF players think it will. IMO, unless Willis goes down, there is no way that Rice starts any games this season. I pulled 130 carries out of my hat but I do think that is Rice's ceiling barring a major injury to Willis.

I agree completely. An established back like McGahee, coming off a good year, is not going to get the boot for a high upside rookie. THhs is where fantasy football is different than real football. From a Harbaugh standpoint, putting in Rice over the vet is not going to help his team win. I think guys like Rice, CJ, Stewart, Mendanhall are getting way overhyped and drafted early and it almost never works out that way. The vet (assuming he stays healthy) almost always prevails. I remember when Maroney was drafted and he absolutely lit up the preseason and his hype was huge around here, but once the season started, all we saw was Corey Dillon. There are many other similar examples from the last few years.

Yes. One flag that was raised in my mind was when Flacco was named the starter. I'm not an NFL coach, but I don't think I'd want to be trotting out a Rookie QB and RB in week 1 of a divisional game, even if it is the Bengals.It could happen, but man that would be very dicey in my mind. Rice has done very well, but it's the Pre-season. The Regular season is a completely different animal.

 

[sholditch]

I am trying to ween myself away from it. However, I just dropped Forte in order to keep Chris Johnson, but the decision was made because of bye weeks. Still, I wasn't comfortable going with the non-starter over the starter, even though both are rookies and Tennessee has a much better line/offense than Chicago.

Thinking of making a play for McGahee right now before week 1.

 

[jon_mx]

I would only consider starting Rice if McGahee is listed as questionable or doubtful. If McGahee is listed as probable, it is too much of a risk for week 1 unless you really have no good RB2 option.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

My point was mainly that a new promising rookie always represents change, change represents opportunity, and opportunity is a chance for sharks to use their knowledge to beat their opponents. Because of this, people that actively follow FF will almost always, consciously or subconsciously, want the change to occur in order for the opportunity to present itself.

In the NFL, change is less common than we want it to be. McGahee was a productive back last year. If he had seriously slipped that would be one thing, but a minor knee ailment and being a little behind on the playbook do not in reality present the opportunity that FF players think it will. IMO, unless Willis goes down, there is no way that Rice starts any games this season. I pulled 130 carries out of my hat but I do think that is Rice's ceiling barring a major injury to Willis.

That's wonderful & I don't disagree. But my point was that not everyone who has been worried about McGahee is doing so because of group-think or out of some desire to bump posts 6 months from now showing how smart they think they are. There were/are legitimate concerns about McGahee's readiness that have zero to do with Ray Rice.

 

[zamboni]

My point was mainly that a new promising rookie always represents change, change represents opportunity, and opportunity is a chance for sharks to use their knowledge to beat their opponents. Because of this, people that actively follow FF will almost always, consciously or subconsciously, want the change to occur in order for the opportunity to present itself.

In the NFL, change is less common than we want it to be. McGahee was a productive back last year. If he had seriously slipped that would be one thing, but a minor knee ailment and being a little behind on the playbook do not in reality present the opportunity that FF players think it will. IMO, unless Willis goes down, there is no way that Rice starts any games this season. I pulled 130 carries out of my hat but I do think that is Rice's ceiling barring a major injury to Willis.

I agree completely. An established back like McGahee, coming off a good year, is not going to get the boot for a high upside rookie. THhs is where fantasy football is different than real football. From a Harbaugh standpoint, putting in Rice over the vet is not going to help his team win. I think guys like Rice, CJ, Stewart, Mendanhall are getting way overhyped and drafted early and it almost never works out that way. The vet (assuming he stays healthy) almost always prevails. I remember when Maroney was drafted and he absolutely lit up the preseason and his hype was huge around here, but once the season started, all we saw was Corey Dillon. There are many other similar examples from the last few years.

This is true, but if the team starts losing in droves - not out of the question with a green rookie QB in there - they may want to see what they have in Rice sooner than later.

 

[Biabreakable]

My point was mainly that a new promising rookie always represents change, change represents opportunity, and opportunity is a chance for sharks to use their knowledge to beat their opponents. Because of this, people that actively follow FF will almost always, consciously or subconsciously, want the change to occur in order for the opportunity to present itself.

In the NFL, change is less common than we want it to be. McGahee was a productive back last year. If he had seriously slipped that would be one thing, but a minor knee ailment and being a little behind on the playbook do not in reality present the opportunity that FF players think it will. IMO, unless Willis goes down, there is no way that Rice starts any games this season. I pulled 130 carries out of my hat but I do think that is Rice's ceiling barring a major injury to Willis.

That's wonderful & I don't disagree. But my point was that not everyone who has been worried about McGahee is doing so because of group-think or out of some desire to bump posts 6 months from now showing how smart they think they are. There were/are legitimate concerns about McGahee's readiness that have zero to do with Ray Rice.

Agreed. I have McGahee benched for now until I hear something more positive or see it in week 1. And this has nothing to do with how well Rice has played. What I hear the HC saying is that McGahee is not ready to play yet in week 1 but they are trying to get him there. That doesen't give me enough confidence to start McGahee in week 1.Other news could change my mind but that is how I see it right now.

Bengals defense is going to raise the bar on ineptitude this season also. They look as bad to me as I can remember a defense being. Would love to start McGahee against them. I just don't think he is healthy enough to play yet.

 

[Chaka]

McGahee can't play this week. Ray Rice is supposed to take over the world in week 1. Seriously, it seems better for the Ravens to sit McGahee out this week and give him an extra week to heal, rather than risk further injury. What better time to sit him out than against Cincy?

Not good news for those of us who were confident starting Ray Ray WK1.The Baltimore Sun reports Baltimore Ravens RB Willis McGahee (knee) practiced Monday, Sept. 1, and he is expected to start Week 1. Head coach John Harbaugh said McGahee's knee is still not at 100 percent.

I can't think of a better strategy to win games then sitting your #1 RB against a division rival while saddling your rookie QB with a rookie RB in the backfield.Definitely a formula for success.If McGahee can stand up Harbaugh will put him in the lineup.

 

[Cantonese32]

NFL Ravens webpage

On his option for a backup running back if McGahee is not able to start: “You saw it in the preseason. It was Le’Ron McClain. He’s our backup halfback at this point, and he did a nice job.”

Rookie coaches learn fast!

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

McGahee can't play this week. Ray Rice is supposed to take over the world in week 1. Seriously, it seems better for the Ravens to sit McGahee out this week and give him an extra week to heal, rather than risk further injury. What better time to sit him out than against Cincy?

Not good news for those of us who were confident starting Ray Ray WK1.The Baltimore Sun reports Baltimore Ravens RB Willis McGahee (knee) practiced Monday, Sept. 1, and he is expected to start Week 1. Head coach John Harbaugh said McGahee's knee is still not at 100 percent.

I can't think of a better strategy to win games then sitting your #1 RB against a division rival while saddling your rookie QB with a rookie RB in the backfield.Definitely a formula for success.If McGahee can stand up Harbaugh will put him in the lineup.

Starting rookie RBs is not like starting a rookie OL. The learning curve for RBs is much easier, especially if he can pickup the blitz at all. Just give him the ball and say....run that way.

 

[-baller]

speaking of picking up a blitz, wouldn't you think mcgahee would be a much stronger blocking back for flacco than rice?

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

speaking of picking up a blitz, wouldn't you think mcgahee would be a much stronger blocking back for flacco than rice?

He doesn't have a lot experience pass blocking, but Rice has the frame to pass block effectively, and is a willing blocker.

 

[Chaka]

McGahee can't play this week. Ray Rice is supposed to take over the world in week 1. Seriously, it seems better for the Ravens to sit McGahee out this week and give him an extra week to heal, rather than risk further injury. What better time to sit him out than against Cincy?

Not good news for those of us who were confident starting Ray Ray WK1.The Baltimore Sun reports Baltimore Ravens RB Willis McGahee (knee) practiced Monday, Sept. 1, and he is expected to start Week 1. Head coach John Harbaugh said McGahee's knee is still not at 100 percent.

I can't think of a better strategy to win games then sitting your #1 RB against a division rival while saddling your rookie QB with a rookie RB in the backfield.Definitely a formula for success.If McGahee can stand up Harbaugh will put him in the lineup.

Starting rookie RBs is not like starting a rookie OL. The learning curve for RBs is much easier, especially if he can pickup the blitz at all. Just give him the ball and say....run that way.

That whole blitz pickup thing just might be the problem.Y'know a rookie QB who can't spot the pre-snap blitz to tell the RB where to be and a rookie RB who also can't spot the pre-snap blitz and figure out where to be.If McGahee can play he will play. Just because the Ravens might be forced to throw that rookie backfield out there doesn't mean they want to.

 

[Chaka]

speaking of picking up a blitz, wouldn't you think mcgahee would be a much stronger blocking back for flacco than rice?

He doesn't have a lot experience pass blocking, but Rice has the frame to pass block effectively, and is a willing blocker.

He might need to be a willing stretcher bearer too.

 

[gman8343]

so... did McGahee practice again today?

 

[Judge Smails]

speaking of picking up a blitz, wouldn't you think mcgahee would be a much stronger blocking back for flacco than rice?

He doesn't have a lot experience pass blocking, but Rice has the frame to pass block effectively, and is a willing blocker.

He might need to be a willing stretcher bearer too.

You don't need to pass block when you are running 40 times down the throat of a horrible rushing defense. It's not as if Flacco was going to see more than 15 attempts anyway. Pass blocking is over rated - in this instance, in this game. If Rice gives them the best chance to be dominant on the ground he will be in there.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

speaking of picking up a blitz, wouldn't you think mcgahee would be a much stronger blocking back for flacco than rice?

He doesn't have a lot experience pass blocking, but Rice has the frame to pass block effectively, and is a willing blocker.

He might need to be a willing stretcher bearer too.

good lord

 

[PACKER 7]

so... did McGahee practice again today?

I don't have an official team statement, but I read on a Ravens chatboard at the Baltimore Sun that he did indeed practice again today.The poster also said something about Harbaugh's comment on Willis. Apparently Harbaugh was asked how did Willis look and he said something to the effect of he looked like any other RB who has missed 4 weeks.Take it or leave it. Don't know what to think. My personal opinion is that he will play b/c Flacco is starting, but now this Hurricane is blowing through that area over the weekend and if the field is wet and slippery I have doubts about him playing. So I'd say he's chances of playing are 50/50 or Questionable.Just how I read it. Sorry I don't have a link to the above information.

 

[sholditch]

NFL Ravens webpage

On his option for a backup running back if McGahee is not able to start: “You saw it in the preseason. It was Le’Ron McClain. He’s our backup halfback at this point, and he did a nice job.”

Rookie coaches learn fast!

Odd. Is everyone just ignoring this?