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Winners and losers after the first few days of FA (1 Viewer)

Jene Bramel

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WINNERS

Dewayne White -- signed by Detroit

Finally gets a chance to prove himself as an every down defensive end. Showed flashes of value in run support over the past two seasons as a situational player/injury replacement with 30 solo tackles after subtracting sacks. Had already proven himself as a successful pass rusher both from the edge and when playing tackle on some third downs. Could establish himself as a solid DL2 in 2007 with 45 tackle, 10 sack upside or better.

Patrick Chukwurah -- signed by Tampa Bay

If Chukwurah gets used as an every down defensive end in the Tampa-2 system, there some interesting potential here. Chukwurah had started to establish himself as a pass rushing threat in a situational role in Denver last year. Scouting reports suggest he plays with better leverage than expected from a 250 pounder. If Kevin Carter was signed to play inside and the Bucs choose not to re-sign Simeon Rice, Chukwurah could land at RDE and be an interesting sleeper to watch.

Michael Lewis -- signed by San Francisco

No surprise here. Lewis moves from the doghouse in Philly to a starting gig in San Francisco. Despite landing in a 3-4 scheme, Lewis should hold excellent value in tackle heavy leagues unless the Niners improve their ILB corps in the draft.

Ahmad Brooks -- may have inside track at the MLB role

With Odell Thurman's return still in doubt (he can't apply for re-instatement until mid-July) and Caleb Miller not seen as a full time player by Bengal insiders, Brian Simmons release leaves one big competition at MLB. Brooks could establish himself quickly with a solid mini-camp and shut out all competitors.

James Harrison -- inherits OLB position vacated by Joey Porter

Those of you in sack heavy leagues should already be watching this guy closely. If he's available in your leagues, make him a high priority. Very solid pass rush skills and enough all around linebacker skill to make plays in other areas.

Bart Scott -- expanded blitz role with Adalius Thomas elsewhere

Scott should keep his solid tackle stats given that Thomas' replacement Jarret Johnson really isn't anything special and Ray Lewis isn't getting any rangier with age. While his sack numbers could go down with one less threat to the offensive line, the Ravens coaches have said Scott will inherit many of Thomas' blitz responsibility. Dawan Landry may see a decent bump in his statlines as well.

Honorable Mention:

Chauncey Davis -- inherits Patrick Kerney's starting spot in Atlanta

Inconsistent against the run and isn't an elite pass rush talent. Could be an interesting play against a solid matchup across from a healthy John Abraham.

Jarret Johnson -- inherits Adalius Thomas' starting spot in Baltimore

May have some value in sack heavy leagues, but won't generate anywhere near the stat lines that Thomas did.

Dontarrious Thomas -- Viking MLB?

With Napoleon Harris gone, Thomas has the inside track on the MLB job by default if Chad Greenway can't overcome injury or the issues that kept him a second teamer at WLB deep into camp in 2006.

LOSERS

Patrick Kerney -- signed by Seattle

I may be way off base here, but Kerney has always struggled without an established pass rusher opposite him. Great stats when Chuck Smith was around and looked good with John Abraham but tailed off when teams could roll coverage his way. With the inconsistent Grant Wistrom and/or Bryce Fisher opposite him in Seattle, Kerney could struggle to put up regular IDP starter numbers.

Vonnie Holliday -- re-signed by Miami

What looked like a return to the prized undertackle role and another season of big DT value is now in question after the Dolphins signed Joey Porter, presumably to play OLB in a more Capers-like 3-4. Holliday would move to 3-4 end in that scenario and would struggle to approach the sack numbers he's put up recently.

Lemar Marshall -- left competing for the WLB job

Marshall's value was already slipping quickly by mid-season 2006, but the signing of London Fletcher probably seals his fate as a questionable IDP value. He'll be competing with Rocky McIntosh to play the WLB in 2007. Even should he win the job, Fletcher will be a threat to lock up most of the tackles in the middle and won't a lock to play a three down role if Marcus Washington can recover from hip surgery.

Honorable Mention:

Keith Lewis -- may be back in a reserve role

By most accounts around here Keith Lewis is a much better all-around player than Mark Roman, but local reports suggest he'll be the odd man out after Michael Lewis was signed to play SS.

Jason Taylor -- may be re-classified as a LB

Joey Porter's signing may be the straw that pushes the depth chart to a base 3-4. Taylor, who played a stand up LB role pretty often in Saban's defense, may get thrown into the 3-4 OLB abyss of questionable and inconsistent value as a result.

INCOMPLETE

Cato June/Kawika Mitchell/Donnie Edwards

Still some plum jobs possibly available -- NE ILB, NO MLB, DET MLB among others. None of these guys got significant interest in the early FA rush, though.

Thoughts on who else may see their value change significantly in 2007?

 
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Great thread Jene, nice job!

I'd say Tapp took a hit with the Kerney signing. Coleman to the Jets could be interesting (he just signed, but they also just resigned Bobby Hamilton, and kept Kimo) and while it's hard to get excited about a 3-4 DE who was nothing more than a backup in Dallas, his upside could be that of S Ellis.... a bye week fill in sort of DE.

Napolean Harris..... that defensive scheme should be golden for a MLB, but Mitchell flat out sucked based on my expectations in that scheme. Is Harris a sleeper?

Looks like NO is doing all they can to put Bullocks on the bench. I thought he would work out early into the season last year, but it looks like he's in a bad situation now.

Big news if Taylor gets relisted as an LB..... but again, I don't see B Thomas suffering the same fate. New HC in Miami, but same DC. Who will write the depth chart up? Could be a good time to sell on Taylor.... unless.... risky.

 
Rovers said:
Looks like NO is doing all they can to put Bullocks on the bench. I thought he would work out early into the season last year, but it looks like he's in a bad situation now.
Not sure you know what you mean - what are they doing to bench Bullocks - I've been following the visits off and on but haven;t seen anything that would change the safety situation in NO - what did I miss?
 
Rovers said:
Looks like NO is doing all they can to put Bullocks on the bench. I thought he would work out early into the season last year, but it looks like he's in a bad situation now.
Not sure you know what you mean - what are they doing to bench Bullocks - I've been following the visits off and on but haven;t seen anything that would change the safety situation in NO - what did I miss?
They are bringing in a parade of safeties in FA. Word on the street is to replace Bullocks, who had a few rough moments last year ...
 
Great idea for a thread, Jene. :blackdot:

These are two less definite candidates, but I'd add Sean Taylor to the mix due to London Fletcher taking some of his tackles (I mentioned this in another thread) and Carlos Rogers due to the Smoot signing and the apparent CBBC in Washington (assuming Springs remains on the roster or the team trades for Bly).

I agree that Lemar Marshall is a big fantasy loser here.

 
Winner maybe?

Mike Vrabel

With Colvin and Adalius playing the two OLB spots, Vrabel without question will move back to ILB with Bruschi. Two years ago when Vrabel was playing ILB in place of Bruschi, he racked up 108 tackles (73 solo) and 4.5 sacks. He could return to putting up close to those numbers after experiencing a drop-off last season playing on the outside.

 
Nap Harris: New MLB in KC. Imagine he'll have a lot of tackles in that D.
Speaking of KC, what was wrong with Derrick Johnson last year? I thought he may build off of his rookie year, but seemed to take a step or two backwards.
He was a big-play LB (4.5 sacks first 7 games) until he suffered a high ankle sprain in mid-season. Thru the first 7 weeks, DJ was on pace for 110 tackles and 10 sacks. Not too shabby. ;)
 
I like putting the "winner" label on Mike Vrabel.

I considered putting Darryl Tapp on the loser or incomplete list, but left him off waiting to see what Seattle had in mind after signing Patrick Kerney. After reading the local news reports over the past two days, he may belong on the winner list.

Mike Sando wrote the following in his blog last night (scroll down):

Newly signed DE Patrick Kerney will start on the left side, replacing DE Bryce Fisher, according to coach Mike Holmgren. It's unclear who will start on the right side, but look for the Hawks to use a rotation at the position if depth permits. Grant Wistrom's status is not certain, president Tim Ruskell indicated. That's a topic a lot of people have asked about. I'm not sure what kind of leverage the Hawks have in reducing his salary. Wistrom's contract counts more against the cap if the team releases him. Wistrom is also arguably the second- or third-best DE on the team. We can verify that by looking at the ends on the roster and noting that Wistrom played more snaps last season than all but one (Bryce Fisher).

The Seahwaks axed Wistrom today, which could bump Tapp into an even bigger chunk of playing time in rotation with Bryce Fisher. Since Fisher isn't anything special in any phase of the game, Tapp could really establish himself with some improvement in run support.

 
Dontarrious Thomas -- Viking MLB?

With Napoleon Harris gone, Thomas has the inside track on the MLB job by default if Chad Greenway can't overcome injury or the issues that kept him a second teamer at WLB deep into camp in 2006.

A liitle help on this one? If Greenway doesn't develop, that means Thomas plays WLB? Then who plays in the middle? The entire Minny LB situation has me stumped. In one league I have Thomas as an RFA.... do I protect him? TIA!

 
Dontarrious Thomas -- Viking MLB?With Napoleon Harris gone, Thomas has the inside track on the MLB job by default if Chad Greenway can't overcome injury or the issues that kept him a second teamer at WLB deep into camp in 2006.A liitle help on this one? If Greenway doesn't develop, that means Thomas plays WLB? Then who plays in the middle? The entire Minny LB situation has me stumped. In one league I have Thomas as an RFA.... do I protect him? TIA!
I'd guess - and that is all it is, that with Greenway it becomes Greenway, Thomas/Henderson, Leber. I think they may draft someone as well.
 
Dontarrious Thomas -- Viking MLB?With Napoleon Harris gone, Thomas has the inside track on the MLB job by default if Chad Greenway can't overcome injury or the issues that kept him a second teamer at WLB deep into camp in 2006.A liitle help on this one? If Greenway doesn't develop, that means Thomas plays WLB? Then who plays in the middle? The entire Minny LB situation has me stumped. In one league I have Thomas as an RFA.... do I protect him? TIA!
My thought there was that if Chad Greenway can't prove himself healthy or competent, EJ Henderson stays at WLB and there's no one else left at MLB with Napoleon Harris gone other than Dontarrious Thomas. As msommer said, if Greenway wins the WLB job, the MLB job is probably an open competition with Henderson the favorite for now.Still a couple of interesting names available on the FA market at LB and plenty of Tampa-2 type OLB in the draft so nothing is certain. I don't think Thomas is anything special from an IDP perspective -- he's yet to establish himself despite plenty of opportunity -- but potential starting MLBs carry some value. I'm never comfortable making recommendations about RFA. Every league is so different. If you've got the space and the funds or the need to keep around a guy with Napoleon Harris like upside but a decent risk of seeing little to no playing time, he's worth keeping around until camp.
 
Considine? Or was it a given Lewis was gone?

What about Spires in TB?

Ruud the Whitie certainly has to be a winner with Harris signing elsewhere?

 
Considine? Or was it a given Lewis was gone?What about Spires in TB?Ruud the Whitie certainly has to be a winner with Harris signing elsewhere?
Considine's been starting over half a season. If Lewis was staying, it would've have been as a WLB but he wanted no part of that. Lewis' playing time was so minimal last year that it didn't significantly impact Considine's statlines.Spires won't move to RDE and may actually see his playing time decrease if Kevin Carter gets time at DE rather than DT. He's been an every down defender for years and hasn't held much value. At his age, I think losing Rice's presence on the opposite side hurts more than helps.You've got me confused with Ruud. If you mean Chad Greenway, then maybe. He was probably expected to push for time even with Harris around. I'm still bugged about his inability to prove himself last camp. The coverage scheme isn't that difficult and his major selling point pre-draft was instincts better than timed speed. If he was going to have big value, he should have been running with the first teamers halfway through camp. Add in an ACL injury and I'm firmly in the "show me" camp this season with him.
 
WINNER

Dre Bly - I'm not so sure he gets dealt to WAS unless WAS is willing to part with a lot. If Bly stays in DEN I think his INT's at least double and his tackles also increase. Normally I don't get too geeked about CB's but anybody playing across from Champ is worth watching and while Bly may not be an all-pro he's a huge upgrade from last season and has proven over the course of his career he has the ball hawking skills to take advantage of balls thrown his direction.

 
Loser - Andeyanju STL DE. They signed James Hall to play across from Little, relevating Andeyanju to backup.

I sure did great picking up both Andeyanju and Tapp last year.

 
Considine? Or was it a given Lewis was gone?
Considine's been starting over half a season. If Lewis was staying, it would've have been as a WLB but he wanted no part of that. Lewis' playing time was so minimal last year that it didn't significantly impact Considine's statlines.
Considine's numbers can best be evaluated best from after the NO game (week 6) when he took over for M. Lewis. Lewis still replaced him on running downs the rest of the year. The Eagles would have liked Considine to step in as the starter but he had too many missed tackles and a few blown coverages that the staff is questioning if he can be a competent starter.Unless they sign some one like Doss or Hamlin, I can see them taking a safety in the 1st or 2nd round and they player would start with Dawkins at the safety spots
 
WINNER

Marlin Jackson should move into a starting role with Nick Harper signing with Tennessee. Jackson doesn't have the greatest ball skills, but his ability to stop the run should allow him to rack up some nice tackle numbers in the Colt scheme (he had over 60 solos in a part-time nickel CB/safety role last year). He could become a top ten IDP CB in 2007.

 
WINNER

Marlin Jackson should move into a starting role with Nick Harper signing with Tennessee. Jackson doesn't have the greatest ball skills, but his ability to stop the run should allow him to rack up some nice tackle numbers in the Colt scheme (he had over 60 solos in a part-time nickel CB/safety role last year). He could become a top ten IDP CB in 2007.
:lmao:
 
LOSER

Josh Bullocks

Bullocks was still a reasonable option in deeper leagues last season. Early reports from New Orleans were that the Saints saw recent signing Kevin Kaesviharn as an "in-the-mix" type of player. Kaesviharn's interview with the Cincinnati beat writers notes that the Saints have told Kaesviharn that he'll get the "opportunity to start." Coupled with the rumblings that Bullocks was a disappointment in coverage last year, it looks likely that Bullocks could see even less than rotational time in 2007. Both guys are under contract through 2009 so unless there's an injury or Roman Harper can't recover, Bullocks' value is taking a big hit.

 
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LOOKING LIKE A LOSER

Freddie Keiaho

With almost no interest in Cato June, there's more and more speculation that he will end up back in Indianapolis at a reasonable cost. That obviously puts a big dent in Keiaho's value and may pigeon-hole him back into the SLB role (competition with Rob Morris) for the foreseeable future if June signs a long term deal.

 
LOOKING LIKE A LOSER

Freddie Keiaho

With almost no interest in Cato June, there's more and more speculation that he will end up back in Indianapolis at a reasonable cost. That obviously puts a big dent in Keiaho's value and may pigeon-hole him back into the SLB role (competition with Rob Morris) for the foreseeable future if June signs a long term deal.
XWith the signing of Cato June in TB, Keiaho has to be the early favorite to assume the primo WLB spot in Indianapolis.

The signing also makes Cato June a big LOSER

He looks like he'll play a three down role at SLB in Tampa for now, with some SS possible (likely in a nickel role) as well. Ian Gold tallied a less than robust 54-17-0 in that role with Tampa in 2004. Even if June can make a potential hybrid role (speculation) work well, he'll have nowhere near the numbers he produced in Indy. Probably the biggest loss of value this off-season so far.

 
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LOOKING LIKE A LOSER

Freddie Keiaho

With almost no interest in Cato June, there's more and more speculation that he will end up back in Indianapolis at a reasonable cost. That obviously puts a big dent in Keiaho's value and may pigeon-hole him back into the SLB role (competition with Rob Morris) for the foreseeable future if June signs a long term deal.
XWith the signing of Cato June in TB, Keiaho has to be the early favorite to assume the primo WLB spot in Indianapolis.

The signing also makes Cato June a big LOSER

He looks like he'll play a three down role at SLB in Tampa for now, with some SS possible (likely in a nickel role) as well. Ian Gold tallied a less than robust 54-17-0 in that role with Tampa in 2004. Even if June can make a potential hybrid role (speculation) work well, he'll have nowhere near the numbers he produced in Indy. Probably the biggest loss of value this off-season so far.
Keiaho owner in a couple leagues :2cents: :X
 
LOOKING LIKE A LOSER

Freddie Keiaho

With almost no interest in Cato June, there's more and more speculation that he will end up back in Indianapolis at a reasonable cost. That obviously puts a big dent in Keiaho's value and may pigeon-hole him back into the SLB role (competition with Rob Morris) for the foreseeable future if June signs a long term deal.
XWith the signing of Cato June in TB, Keiaho has to be the early favorite to assume the primo WLB spot in Indianapolis.

The signing also makes Cato June a big LOSER

He looks like he'll play a three down role at SLB in Tampa for now, with some SS possible (likely in a nickel role) as well. Ian Gold tallied a less than robust 54-17-0 in that role with Tampa in 2004. Even if June can make a potential hybrid role (speculation) work well, he'll have nowhere near the numbers he produced in Indy. Probably the biggest loss of value this off-season so far.
What do you think happens to G. Gardner?
 
LOOKING LIKE A LOSER

Freddie Keiaho

With almost no interest in Cato June, there's more and more speculation that he will end up back in Indianapolis at a reasonable cost. That obviously puts a big dent in Keiaho's value and may pigeon-hole him back into the SLB role (competition with Rob Morris) for the foreseeable future if June signs a long term deal.
XWith the signing of Cato June in TB, Keiaho has to be the early favorite to assume the primo WLB spot in Indianapolis.

The signing also makes Cato June a big LOSER

He looks like he'll play a three down role at SLB in Tampa for now, with some SS possible (likely in a nickel role) as well. Ian Gold tallied a less than robust 54-17-0 in that role with Tampa in 2004. Even if June can make a potential hybrid role (speculation) work well, he'll have nowhere near the numbers he produced in Indy. Probably the biggest loss of value this off-season so far.
What do you think happens to G. Gardner?
He stays a back up
 
LOOKING LIKE A LOSER

Freddie Keiaho

With almost no interest in Cato June, there's more and more speculation that he will end up back in Indianapolis at a reasonable cost. That obviously puts a big dent in Keiaho's value and may pigeon-hole him back into the SLB role (competition with Rob Morris) for the foreseeable future if June signs a long term deal.
XWith the signing of Cato June in TB, Keiaho has to be the early favorite to assume the primo WLB spot in Indianapolis.

The signing also makes Cato June a big LOSER

He looks like he'll play a three down role at SLB in Tampa for now, with some SS possible (likely in a nickel role) as well. Ian Gold tallied a less than robust 54-17-0 in that role with Tampa in 2004. Even if June can make a potential hybrid role (speculation) work well, he'll have nowhere near the numbers he produced in Indy. Probably the biggest loss of value this off-season so far.
What do you think happens to G. Gardner?
He stays a back up
Behind who? Keiaho and Morris will start on the outside?
 
LOOKING LIKE A LOSER

Freddie Keiaho

With almost no interest in Cato June, there's more and more speculation that he will end up back in Indianapolis at a reasonable cost. That obviously puts a big dent in Keiaho's value and may pigeon-hole him back into the SLB role (competition with Rob Morris) for the foreseeable future if June signs a long term deal.
XWith the signing of Cato June in TB, Keiaho has to be the early favorite to assume the primo WLB spot in Indianapolis.

The signing also makes Cato June a big LOSER

He looks like he'll play a three down role at SLB in Tampa for now, with some SS possible (likely in a nickel role) as well. Ian Gold tallied a less than robust 54-17-0 in that role with Tampa in 2004. Even if June can make a potential hybrid role (speculation) work well, he'll have nowhere near the numbers he produced in Indy. Probably the biggest loss of value this off-season so far.
What do you think happens to G. Gardner?
He stays a back up
Behind who? Keiaho and Morris will start on the outside?
If the Colts draft a backer or two in this draft, Gardner might have a tough time making the roster. Gardner has had mulitple chances to establish himself as an outside backer in Indy. Injuries cost him some development time, but there was no excuse for his poor play last year. It's not widely reported, but Morris had just as much to do with the revitalization of the Colt rush defense as MacFarland and Sanders.
 

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