WIS MMXI: Back to the Future Edition- Draft & Season Thread (5 Viewers)

[Eephus]

Still a one hour clock for one more day

9 . 10 ( 202 ) cheese…UP clock resumes Wed 9AM EST

9 . 11 ( 203 ) Greco….

9 . 12 ( 204 ) rodg12…

9 . 13 ( 205 ) ChemX….

9 . 14 ( 206 ) Arsenal..

9 . 15 ( 207 ) DougB….

9 . 16 ( 208 ) SNC……

9 . 17 ( 209 ) NV…….

9 . 18 ( 210 ) Bogart…

9 . 19 ( 211 ) bobucarow

9 . 20 ( 212 ) sparty…

9 . 21 ( 213 ) RnRolen..

9 . 22 ( 214 ) HoosFirst

9 . 23 ( 215 ) TUpside...

9 . 24 ( 216 ) OsoDiablo

 

[Tremendous Upside]

This doesn't account for guys like Berkman that will be hurt in the first month of the year.

I'm guessing you don't like that pick. Given the Cardinals' luck so far this season, I wouldn't doubt it if you were right.

He has the history, but man, watching him for the Yanks, when he had a ton to play for, was painfulReally convinced me he was on the downside

 

[RnR]

This doesn't account for guys like Berkman that will be hurt in the first month of the year.

I'm guessing you don't like that pick. Given the Cardinals' luck so far this season, I wouldn't doubt it if you were right.

He has the history, but man, watching him for the Yanks, when he had a ton to play for, was painfulReally convinced me he was on the downside

If you believe him, he was playing hurt last year. He has also dropped 20 lbs and turned down multi-year deals from other teams (A's) to find the right situation to prove he still has it. He says if he can't produce at the level he expects this season, he doesn't deserve a multi-year deal anyway. Doing and saying all the right things, just a matter of whether he has anything left in the tank. Don't need a return to his prime, but .375 OBP seems reasonable over 400 ABs. We'll see. He seems motivated and the line-up slot is right for a decent season.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

This doesn't account for guys like Berkman that will be hurt in the first month of the year.

I'm guessing you don't like that pick. Given the Cardinals' luck so far this season, I wouldn't doubt it if you were right.

He has the history, but man, watching him for the Yanks, when he had a ton to play for, was painfulReally convinced me he was on the downside

If you believe him, he was playing hurt last year. He has also dropped 20 lbs and turned down multi-year deals from other teams. Don't need a return to his prime, but .375 OBP seems reasonable over 400 ABs. We'll see. He seems motivated and the line-up slot is right for a decent season.

I've always liked him, so I root for himAnd he definitely is better in this format

 

[RnR]

I've always liked him, so I root for him

And he definitely is better in this format

Same. Has always come off as one of the good guys to me. Agree very much on the INF sentiment, guys like Sizemore and Berkman are alright for this exercise, but I wouldn't touch them with a 1000 ft pole on my fantasy team this season if I can help it.

 

[belljr]

WIS MMXI: Back to the Future Edition

2 . 22 LB_44…. Victor Martinez C <---lot of DH and 1B for Vic I think...we'll see.

3 . 03 LB_44…. Rickie Weeks P <--typo

4 . 14 Greco…. Martin Prado 2B<--Uggla there, going to be LFer until Chipper dies again.

5 . 18 Bogart… Michael Young 3B <--Doubt he gets much 3B time at all. 1B/DH?

6 . 17 belljr… Chone Figgins 2B <--Going back to 3B

A list of players that I doubt will be much use at the positions listed on page 1. This doesn't account for guys like Berkman that will be hurt in the first month of the year.

Wait so now I have 2 3b's ?? crap...

 

[cheese]

9.10 Mark Buehrle SP

 

[jfranco77]

8.23 Cliff Pennington, 2B

8.24 Daric Barton, 1B

9.01 Tsuyoshi Nishioka, 2B

9.02 Carl Pavano, SP

Amazing turn... at this stage I don't expect to see 4 of my top 9 guys picked in a row like that.Amazing, of course, if you're not looking to draft those guys.

 

[jfranco77]

WIS MMXI: Back to the Future Edition

2 . 22 LB_44…. Victor Martinez C <---lots of DH and 1B for Vic I think...we'll see.

3 . 03 LB_44…. Rickie Weeks P <--typo

4 . 14 Greco…. Martin Prado 2B<--Uggla there, going to be LFer until Chipper dies again.

5 . 18 Bogart… Michael Young 3B <--Doubt he gets much 3B time at all. 1B/DH?

6 . 17 belljr… Chone Figgins 2B <--Going back to 3B

A list of players that I doubt will be much use at the positions listed on page 1. This doesn't account for guys like Berkman that will be hurt in the first month of the year.

what I've read about Martinez is he's the backup C (1-2 games/week)

and play DH in the majority of the rest of the games...I picked him 'cuz he'll be one of the best hitting catchers and he'll likely end up with the most PAs out of any Catchers in the league...

If that happens his defense will be BRUTAL in this. Not that it already wasn't going to be very bad since he's a terrible catcher.

20 games at C is enough that WIS won't pro-rate him too badly. It sounds like he'll get there. He'll probably have a noodle arm, but that probably would have happened even if he caught 140 games

 

[Sammy3469]

8.23 Cliff Pennington, 2B

8.24 Daric Barton, 1B

9.01 Tsuyoshi Nishioka, 2B

9.02 Carl Pavano, SP

Amazing turn... at this stage I don't expect to see 4 of my top 9 guys picked in a row like that.Amazing, of course, if you're not looking to draft those guys.

Pennington is actually a SS

 

[rodg12]

8.23 Cliff Pennington, 2B

8.24 Daric Barton, 1B

9.01 Tsuyoshi Nishioka, 2B

9.02 Carl Pavano, SP

Amazing turn... at this stage I don't expect to see 4 of my top 9 guys picked in a row like that.Amazing, of course, if you're not looking to draft those guys.

Pennington is actually a SS

Thought I could wait one more round to snag him.

 

[Sammy3469]

8.23 Cliff Pennington, 2B

8.24 Daric Barton, 1B

9.01 Tsuyoshi Nishioka, 2B

9.02 Carl Pavano, SP

Amazing turn... at this stage I don't expect to see 4 of my top 9 guys picked in a row like that.Amazing, of course, if you're not looking to draft those guys.

Pennington is actually a SS

Thought I could wait one more round to snag him.

well he's shoulder is still balky so I might have saved you

 

[Greco]

9 . 11 ( 203 ) Erick Aybar, SS ANA

 

[rodg12]

9.12 - Jorge De La Rosa, SP, Col

 

[Eephus]

9 . 13 ( 205 ) ChemX….

9 . 14 ( 206 ) Arsenal..

9 . 15 ( 207 ) DougB….

9 . 16 ( 208 ) SNC……

9 . 17 ( 209 ) NV…….

9 . 18 ( 210 ) Bogart…

9 . 19 ( 211 ) bobucarow

9 . 20 ( 212 ) sparty…

9 . 21 ( 213 ) RnRolen..

9 . 22 ( 214 ) HoosFirst

9 . 23 ( 215 ) TUpside...

9 . 24 ( 216 ) OsoDiablo

 

[oso diablo]

back in 30. will make arsenal's pick at that time (chemx is still otc right now)

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

9.12 - Jorge De La Rosa, SP, Col

####!

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

back in 30. will make arsenal's pick at that time (chemx is still otc right now)

I think I'm good to go Oso. Can't say enough about how much I appreciate you jumping in to help out.

 

[Eephus]

ChemX timed out

Arsenal OTC

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

9.14 Chase Headley 3B

 

[the moops]

9.12 - Jorge De La Rosa, SP, Col

####!

Nothing like getting sniped on a guy who pitches in Coors and walks 4.5 guys per 9 and has a WHIP of 1.5

 

[oso diablo]

back in 30. will make arsenal's pick at that time (chemx is still otc right now)

I think I'm good to go Oso. Can't say enough about how much I appreciate you jumping in to help out.

no problem. glad you're doing fine.bonus: i can secretly root for a few guys on your team.fwiw, Headley was the top 3B on my list, though i was going pitcher. The best value on the board right now is easily at the catcher position. Too bad both of us already have a catcher.

 

[rodg12]

9.12 - Jorge De La Rosa, SP, Col

####!

Nothing like getting sniped on a guy who pitches in Coors and walks 4.5 guys per 9 and has a WHIP of 1.5

WHIP of 1.39 with COL, though.

 

[Sammy3469]

back in 30. will make arsenal's pick at that time (chemx is still otc right now)

I think I'm good to go Oso. Can't say enough about how much I appreciate you jumping in to help out.

no problem. glad you're doing fine.bonus: i can secretly root for a few guys on your team.fwiw, Headley was the top 3B on my list, though i was going pitcher. The best value on the board right now is easily at the catcher position. Too bad both of us already have a catcher.

I see what you're doing here

 

[oso diablo]

I see what you're doing here

it's so bald it's not even strategic.

 

[rodg12]

Anybody PM Doug?

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

9.12 - Jorge De La Rosa, SP, Col

####!

Nothing like getting sniped on a guy who pitches in Coors and walks 4.5 guys per 9 and has a WHIP of 1.5

WHIP of 1.39 with COL, though.

I was actually more annoyed to see that Chacin has already been taken. JDLR was my fallback at that pick.

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

Anybody PM Doug?

Yep.

 

[Doug B]

Trying to catch up ... need a few.

How updated is the OP?

 

[Sammy3469]

I see what you're doing here

it's so bald it's not even strategic.

Good thing I don't pick again until next Monday...I have a lot of time to puruse the catcher rankings.

 

[Eephus]

Trying to catch up ... need a few.How updated is the OP?

it's missing these9 . 10 ( 202 ) cheese… Mark Buehrle P9 . 11 ( 203 ) Greco…. Erick Aybar SS9 . 12 ( 204 ) rodg12… Jorge De La Rosa P9 . 13 ( 205 ) ChemX…. SKIP 9 . 14 ( 206 ) Arsenal.. Chase Headley 3B

 

[belljr]

Just so I'm clear I need to pick another 2b because Figgins won't be there?

 

[RnR]

Just so I'm clear I need to pick another 2b because Figgins won't be there?

That's the thing about this draft. There's nothing that says Figgins won't play enough games at 2B to garner a rating there, but the forecast for his time at 2B is not promising at this point. I'd certainly want a fall back option for the position.

 

[Bogart]

I would bet good money that Young will have eligiblilty at 1B, 2B and 3B this year. OSB is going to do his best to make him happy and play him all over. His defense ratings might very well suck, but it gives me the chance to take some position fliers late in the draft.

At least that is what I am telling myself.

 

[Hoos First]

I can be put on autoskip. Will pick later today

 

[Eephus]

Just so I'm clear I need to pick another 2b because Figgins won't be there?

That's the thing about this draft. There's nothing that says Figgins won't play enough games at 2B to garner a rating there, but the forecast for his time at 2B is not promising at this point. I'd certainly want a fall back option for the position.

He'll get a defensive rating even if only plays one game at a position. The problem though is that ratings at low usage positions usually are terrible. Figgins09 played four games at 2B and one in the OF and has D-/D- and D/D+ respectively. This is even though bbref shows him w/ 0.0 innings and 0 chances in the OF.

 

[Super Nintendo Chalmers]

I have to run to a meeting anyone take a list?

 

[Eephus]

I have to run to a meeting anyone take a list?

DougB timed out. Just post the pick

 

[Doug B]

Did a last-minute check of the latest news I could find fast ... don't see any immediate medical issues:

9.15 (207): SP Hudson, Tim



OK ... jokes on the FBB newb. I don't know the punchline: why did Juan Pierre and Tim Hudson fall so far? FWIW, the FBB mag I bought still has Pierre as a top-dozen 5x5 OF (though anyone that can steal a base gets an inordinate boost); but they HATE Tim Hudson (they think he'll be Radatz-on-Hoss'-team bad).

 

[Super Nintendo Chalmers]

That works as well:

Andrew Bailey, RP

 

[Doug B]

DougB timed out. Just post the pick

I still had five minutes left when you posted this -- see post #1070.

 

[Eephus]

Did a last-minute check of the latest news I could find fast ... don't see any immediate medical issues:

9.15 (207): SP Hudson, Tim



OK ... jokes on the FBB newb. I don't know the punchline: why did Juan Pierre and Tim Hudson fall so far? FWIW, the FBB mag I bought still has Pierre as a top-dozen 5x5 OF (though anyone that can steal a base gets an inordinate boost); but they HATE Tim Hudson (they think he'll be Radatz-on-Hoss'-team bad).

5 . 22 ( 118 ) HoosFirst Tim Hudson P

 

[Eephus]

DougB timed out. Just post the pick

I still had five minutes left when you posted this -- see post #1070.

Sorry, I was checking the timestamp for the DLR pick

 

[Bogart]

Just so I'm clear I need to pick another 2b because Figgins won't be there?

That's the thing about this draft. There's nothing that says Figgins won't play enough games at 2B to garner a rating there, but the forecast for his time at 2B is not promising at this point. I'd certainly want a fall back option for the position.

He'll get a defensive rating even if only plays one game at a position. The problem though is that ratings at low usage positions usually are terrible. Figgins09 played four games at 2B and one in the OF and has D-/D- and D/D+ respectively. This is even though bbref shows him w/ 0.0 innings and 0 chances in the OF.

He looked really poor just standing out there in the OF. Maybe if he had his hands on his knees, into the game, it might have gotten bumped up into the C+/B- range. Look alive Chone!! The ball could be coming to you!!

 

[Spartans Rule]

Did a last-minute check of the latest news I could find fast ... don't see any immediate medical issues:

9.15 (207): SP Hudson, Tim



OK ... jokes on the FBB newb. I don't know the punchline: why did Juan Pierre and Tim Hudson fall so far? FWIW, the FBB mag I bought still has Pierre as a top-dozen 5x5 OF (though anyone that can steal a base gets an inordinate boost); but they HATE Tim Hudson (they think he'll be Radatz-on-Hoss'-team bad).

5 . 22 ( 118 ) HoosFirst Tim Hudson P

The long-winded post expressing disbelief that player x fell this far when he was actually picked four rounds ago is awesome schtick.

 

[Eephus]

Did a last-minute check of the latest news I could find fast ... don't see any immediate medical issues:

9.15 (207): SP Hudson, Tim



OK ... jokes on the FBB newb. I don't know the punchline: why did Juan Pierre and Tim Hudson fall so far? FWIW, the FBB mag I bought still has Pierre as a top-dozen 5x5 OF (though anyone that can steal a base gets an inordinate boost); but they HATE Tim Hudson (they think he'll be Radatz-on-Hoss'-team bad).

5 . 22 ( 118 ) HoosFirst Tim Hudson P

The long-winded post expressing disbelief that player x fell this far when he was actually picked four rounds ago is awesome schtick.

The 21st century version of Gary Peters

 

[Doug B]

Hoos' 5.22 was originally a skip, and I never updated my sheet when that pick was made up Repick coming.

But seriously ... Juan Pierre is still good, right?

 

[rodg12]

Trying to catch up ... need a few.

How updated is the OP?

it's missing these9 . 10 ( 202 ) cheese… Mark Buehrle P

9 . 11 ( 203 ) Greco…. Erick Aybar SS

9 . 12 ( 204 ) rodg12… Jorge De La Rosa P

9 . 13 ( 205 ) ChemX…. SKIP

9 . 14 ( 206 ) Arsenal.. Chase Headley 3B

The spreadsheet has been kept up to date as well...GoogleSheet

 

[Doug B]

Re-pick:

9.15 (207): SS Cabrera, Asdrubal

 

[Eephus]

9 . 13 ( 205 ) ChemX…. SKIP

9 . 14 ( 206 ) Arsenal.. Chase Headley 3B

9 . 15 ( 207 ) DougB…. REPICK NEEDED

9 . 16 ( 208 ) SNC…… Andrew Bailey P

9 . 17 ( 209 ) NV……. OTC TO XX47 - EMAILED

9 . 18 ( 210 ) Bogart…

9 . 19 ( 211 ) bobucarow