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He stole it from Chip Kelly from college ball. Belichick didn't innovate or change anything.
True. But, Belichick is probably the only coach in the NFL who noticed and mimicked. when I say "changed the game", I mean changed the NFL game.Bilichick didn't come up with this.
Did you bother to read the article?Belichick doesn't invent every new concept in football. What makes him great is that sometimes he recognizes - and uses - great ideas that other people originally come up with. He seems to always be at the forefront on things like this.Belichick didn't come up with this.
Belichick didn't come up with this.
Belichick can not take credit for this. Though it was slightly innovative to apply it to teh NFL. This has been around for a while now in the NCAA.
His track record speaks for itself. I think he deserves all the love he gets.
Yeah, you pretty much have to assume the Pats are good until proven otherwise.
Tom Coughlin
I'm a fan of Belichick's football knowledge, although less so of his videography skills. I'm no Patriot homer, that's for sure. Can't you at least give Belichick credit for bringing this concept into the NFL? It seems to me that 31 other teams had a similar opportunity to do the same thing, but for one reason or another declined to do so. It's fair to point out that he is not the originator, but even as an adapter, he is still adding another dimension to the Patriots approach.Belichick didn't come up with this.
Did you bother to read what I was responding to? I was responding to the posters thoughts above the article he posted.Thanks.Did you bother to read the article?Belichick doesn't invent every new concept in football. What makes him great is that sometimes he recognizes - and uses - great ideas that other people originally come up with. He seems to always be at the forefront on things like this.Belichick didn't come up with this.
I did, and you were wrong. You're welcome.Did you bother to read what I was responding to? I was responding to the posters thoughts above the article he posted.Thanks.Did you bother to read the article?Belichick doesn't invent every new concept in football. What makes him great is that sometimes he recognizes - and uses - great ideas that other people originally come up with. He seems to always be at the forefront on things like this.Belichick didn't come up with this.
I know that was hard to miss in my 3 sentance post....I'm a fan of Belichick's football knowledge, although less so of his videography skills. I'm no Patriot homer, that's for sure. Can't you at least give Belichick credit for bringing this concept into the NFL? It seems to me that 31 other teams had a similar opportunity to do the same thing, but for one reason or another declined to do so. It's fair to point out that he is not the originator, but even as an adapter, he is still adding another dimension to the Patriots approach.Belichick didn't come up with this.
Yes. I was referring to Mr. Peterson more than you. I hope you don't sue for copyright infringement. I suppose I could say, "I didn't come up with the idea, but I adapted it and expanded upon it more fully."I know that was hard to miss in my 3 sentance post....I'm a fan of Belichick's football knowledge, although less so of his videography skills. I'm no Patriot homer, that's for sure. Can't you at least give Belichick credit for bringing this concept into the NFL? It seems to me that 31 other teams had a similar opportunity to do the same thing, but for one reason or another declined to do so. It's fair to point out that he is not the originator, but even as an adapter, he is still adding another dimension to the Patriots approach.Belichick didn't come up with this.
Where was I wrong? Was Bill the innovator of this offense? Or did he steal it from someone else? (like Chip Kelly maybe...)I did, and you were wrong. You're welcome.Did you bother to read what I was responding to? I was responding to the posters thoughts above the article he posted.Thanks.Did you bother to read the article?Belichick doesn't invent every new concept in football. What makes him great is that sometimes he recognizes - and uses - great ideas that other people originally come up with. He seems to always be at the forefront on things like this.Belichick didn't come up with this.
I forget...Coughlin was the one who put superglue on Tyree's helmet or shined a bright light in Welker's eyes on those two game changing plays?Genius!
He didn't invent cheating either.Belichick didn't come up with this.
Nah, he invented the Tuck rule. Works both ways.
You're suggesting Coughlin is a better coach based on two SB victories that came down to lucky/unlucky plays.I don't think anyone is suggesting Belichik was a better coach than Gruden because of the tuck rule call.
Perhaps you should take a few minutes and read the article, it's not that long, and then you can stop thinking you're making a great point by bringing up Chip Kelly. (HINT: The article explicitly details how Belichick took this idea directly from Chip Kelly.)
I'll say this again for you and then I'm gonna stop cause I don't want to get into a silly little thing with you and take away from the thread. But I was refering to the POSTERS comments. Not the articles. The poster said Belichick was innovative and I disagreed saying he wasn't the innovator of this type of offense. Now go bug someone else.
Do they make you
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?Tricky old Bill Belichick is smart and innovative and has a great QB and no sense of humor and for all that we should ALL hate him. I'm doing my part. 
you know, I just got done talking with my companies patent lawyer, discussing if the widget I just designed has any IP value. I'm paraphrasing here, but he said, "there really hasn't been anything new invented in a really long time. it's all about context - applying something in a new setting, or combining existing things in a new way".if you choose to not see innovation when Belichick takes a college offense and adapts it to the NFL, that's fine. I will maintain that if it was that easy to just copy what they are doing in college, 31 other teams would be doing it too.The key takeaway is that there is a paradigm change happening in how NFL offenses are going to be run. It's not about time of possession, it's about number of plays. That's new, and it's worth noting.Belichick, like usual, is ahead of the curve and is the guy changing how the NFL operates.
OP never claimed that Belichick innovated this type of offense.
Did he really put super glue on Tyrees hands AND shine a light in Welkers eyes? really? That's your argument? Really?!
also contextual
He is the Henry Ford of the NFL.Did you bother to read the article?Belichick doesn't invent every new concept in football. What makes him great is that sometimes he recognizes - and uses - great ideas that other people originally come up with. He seems to always be at the forefront on things like this.Belichick didn't come up with this.
The Jets should punt on first down! That should reduce turnovers and create more scoring opportunities (for the defense).
Coughlin outcoached him badly in those games. Typical Pats homer excuses. 0n2 since they got caught cheating in the big game.You do realize those two things are not mutually exclusive, right?
It is brilliant.
so don't give BB credit for applying this to an NFL offense even though he's the first one to apply it to an NFL offense? I'm surprised it's taken this long to implement, but from everything I've heard and read it takes an enormous commitment to apply it effectively. Of course BB should get credit for bringing it to the NFL.Belichick didn't come up with this.
Yes, of course. Coughlin invented the superglue to the helmet and flashlight in the eyes plays when he was coaching at BC.Yet another New England creator changing the game as we know it!
Belichik may have been "outcoached" in those games but NE was inches away from having 2 more SBs to their credit.
You realize that saying "Tom Coughlin" has no bearing on whether Belichick deserves respect, right? There can be more than one great coach in the NFL.
Or before Bledsoe got hurt.
Belichick is not even taking credit for it. He clearly points that out if you read the article.so don't give BB credit for applying this to an NFL offense even though he's the first one to apply it to an NFL offense? I'm surprised it's taken this long to implement, but from everything I've heard and read it takes an enormous commitment to apply it effectively. Of course BB should get credit for bringing it to the NFL.Belichick didn't come up with this.
