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With the 16th pick the Green Bay Packers select... (1 Viewer)

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Darrelle Revis DB Pittsburgh.

I think this will be the pick by Thompson. I don't see Lynch getting past Buffalo and if the Packer stay at 16, I think Revis gives them what they need. A very physical corner who can play the bump and run coverage the Packers employ. His stock has been rising after a better than expected 40 time (4.38) and he gives the Packers a solid db to compete in the nickel and groom to take over for an aging secondary. He may not last until 16 but this is Thompson's kind of guy.

I think the Packers will draft a wr and a rb just not in round 1.

 
I think they have too many needs to address a corner position in the 1st...or even on the first day.

With Harris and Woodson they are set in at least the short term...signed Walker for depth.

I think they go safety far before they go corner.

 
Darrelle Revis DB Pittsburgh. I think this will be the pick by Thompson. I don't see Lynch getting past Buffalo and if the Packer stay at 16, I think Revis gives them what they need. A very physical corner who can play the bump and run coverage the Packers employ. His stock has been rising after a better than expected 40 time (4.38) and he gives the Packers a solid db to compete in the nickel and groom to take over for an aging secondary. He may not last until 16 but this is Thompson's kind of guy. I think the Packers will draft a wr and a rb just not in round 1.
Pretty astute. I have to agree with this. I think they have needs everywhere, but I see Thompson staying true to his board. That said, a trade down wouldn't shock me either.
 
I think it is going to be Revis. Walker was signed to a 1 year contract and played himself off the field in New York. Woodsen and Harris are both in their 30's and the secondary is a major concern for the Packers. Their nickel package was awful last year. I don't disagree they need a safety but Landry will be off the board, and all reports are that Nelson "struggles with the mental portion of the game". I don't want a safety who struggles mentally. Rb is weak after Lynch is off the board and wr is deep enough to get real value in rounds 2 and 3.

 
TT could trade back as well. He's done so many times in the past two drafts. He is like Ron Wolf in that he covets quantity over (perceived) quality. He throws a lot of crap at the wall and hopes something sticks.

 
I would think:

M. Lynch (RB)

R. Nelson (S)

G. Olsen (TE)

or a trade up or down for a DL/DT. But at 16, I don't expect that DL/DT will be a value as there would be a run on the top tier guys early and #16 would be too high for the 2nd tier guys.

 
I agree, he could trade back, but if they stay at 16 and Revis is there don't be surprised if he is the pick. The cupboard is really bare after Harris and Woodsen. Dendy, Walker, Bush, Blackmon-not anyone I would have faith in to step up and start.

 
I agree, he could trade back, but if they stay at 16 and Revis is there don't be surprised if he is the pick. The cupboard is really bare after Harris and Woodsen. Dendy, Walker, Bush, Blackmon-not anyone I would have faith in to step up and start.
As a Packer fan, I'd be happy with any of the following positions being drafted as long as they don't blow the pick. Any non-bust at these positions will help the Packers. QBRBWRTEOTDEDTOLBCBFSSS
 
Sabertooth said:
As a Packer fan, I'd be happy with any of the following positions being drafted as long as they don't blow the pick. Any non-bust at these positions will help the Packers. QBRBWRTEOTDEDTOLBCBFSSS
Way to cut down the list Sabertooth. :goodposting:
 
Sabertooth said:
As a Packer fan, I'd be happy with any of the following positions being drafted as long as they don't blow the pick. Any non-bust at these positions will help the Packers. QBRBWRTEOTDEDTOLBCBFSSS
Way to cut down the list Sabertooth. ;)
Mike Sherman really left the cupboard bare.
So your saying that as long as they don't take a center in the first it's a good pick. :confused:
 
Sabertooth said:
As a Packer fan, I'd be happy with any of the following positions being drafted as long as they don't blow the pick. Any non-bust at these positions will help the Packers. QBRBWRTEOTDEDTOLBCBFSSS
Way to cut down the list Sabertooth. :)
Mike Sherman really left the cupboard bare.
So your saying that as long as they don't take a center in the first it's a good pick. :goodposting:
They could probably use a center too...or a guard.
 
I think they have too many needs to address a corner position in the 1st...or even on the first day.With Harris and Woodson they are set in at least the short term...signed Walker for depth.I think they go safety far before they go corner.
ers don't haI agree. The Packers #1 weakness is safety. If they had an all Pro at that position last year they would have made the playoffs maybe even made it all the way the Superbowl.
 
I think they have too many needs to address a corner position in the 1st...or even on the first day.With Harris and Woodson they are set in at least the short term...signed Walker for depth.I think they go safety far before they go corner.
ers don't haI agree. The Packers #1 weakness is safety. If they had an all Pro at that position last year they would have made the playoffs maybe even made it all the way the Superbowl.
Frankly, I'm not ready to give up on Marviel Underwood. I have a gut feeling he could turn out like Poppinga. It sure seemed like the Packers liked him, and he played pretty well in preseason while Manuel was out. I would not be surprised to see Underwood break camp as the starting safety ahead of Manuel.I'd rather see them look corner, but not in the first. Harris and Woodson aren't getting any younger, and they don't have much behind them.In the first, grab some O help, and a d lineman if an impact guy is there.
 
Darrelle Revis DB Pittsburgh. I think this will be the pick by Thompson. I don't see Lynch getting past Buffalo and if the Packer stay at 16, I think Revis gives them what they need. A very physical corner who can play the bump and run coverage the Packers employ. His stock has been rising after a better than expected 40 time (4.38) and he gives the Packers a solid db to compete in the nickel and groom to take over for an aging secondary. He may not last until 16 but this is Thompson's kind of guy. I think the Packers will draft a wr and a rb just not in round 1.
Ron Wolf always said you can never have enough CBs. If he's the best player available, he'll get picked regardless of our needs.
 
Exactly, you can never have to many corners. I also think the Packers are at a real disadvantage with Lynch. EVERYONE thinks GB is going to draft him at 16. That means that any team can move ahead of 16 and take him. He could be there and if he is I am all for GB drafting him, but I don't know how likely it is.

 
As a Packer fan, I'd be happy with any of the following positions being drafted as long as they don't blow the pick. Any non-bust at these positions will help the Packers. QBRBWRTEOTDEDTOLBCBFSSS
Way to cut down the list Sabertooth. :mellow:
Mike Sherman really left the cupboard bare.
So your saying that as long as they don't take a center in the first it's a good pick. :confused:
They could probably use a center too...or a guard.
No reference to a punter or kicker, any need there?
 
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I think they have too many needs to address a corner position in the 1st...or even on the first day.With Harris and Woodson they are set in at least the short term...signed Walker for depth.I think they go safety far before they go corner.
ers don't haI agree. The Packers #1 weakness is safety. If they had an all Pro at that position last year they would have made the playoffs maybe even made it all the way the Superbowl.
Frankly, I'm not ready to give up on Marviel Underwood. I have a gut feeling he could turn out like Poppinga. It sure seemed like the Packers liked him, and he played pretty well in preseason while Manuel was out. I would not be surprised to see Underwood break camp as the starting safety ahead of Manuel.
:lmao: I couldn't agree more.
 
I have been giving this some thought and really hope they do not take a RB or WR. REALLY do not like any talk of TE.

Here are players I would be happy with:

Carriker DE

Anderson DE

Houston CB

Brown OT

Landry CB

Branch DT

Nelson FS

Moss DE

Hall CB

Revis CB

I would not mind trading down and getting Griffin (FS)

I realize some are a stretch, but also think there is a chance one of the top 6 listed might fall to GB.

I think that the defensive line might need some consideration.

I would be interested in the board's subjective probabilities woudl be for these guys being available and preferences......

 
ookook said:
I have been giving this some thought and really hope they do not take a RB or WR. REALLY do not like any talk of TE.Here are players I would be happy with:Carriker DEAnderson DEHouston CBBrown OTLandry CBBranch DTNelson FSMoss DEHall CBRevis CBI would not mind trading down and getting Griffin (FS)I realize some are a stretch, but also think there is a chance one of the top 6 listed might fall to GB.I think that the defensive line might need some consideration.I would be interested in the board's subjective probabilities woudl be for these guys being available and preferences......
Carriker, Anderson, Brown , Landry, and Branch will all definitely be gone. I think one of the db's will be gone as well.
 
They need more help at DT than they do at DE, and I just can't imagine how TTs board would have to fall for that position to wind up being BPA. (Insert Good Morning Vietnam reference here)

They need serious help at almost every skill position on offense, save big WRs that can run smash and slant routes. Those they have in abundance. The problem, if you want to call it that, is that their two biggest needs, running back and safety, are positions where you can find good players in later rounds. It will all come down to how their board falls. It's easy to say "They should go this position, that position, ect." all the way through every round, but the truth is NFL teams don't draft like that. (Well, ok, most NFL teams don't draft like that)

 
I agree that is likely (although not certain).

I also think there is a chance Buffalo or someone else takes Lynch too early, which might make someone else available.

J. Moss or Nelson would then probably be my choice.

Perhaps Houston, but that might be early for him.

 
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GB sends rodgers to Oakland for moss and whatever other terms were floating over the airwaves.GB then grabs Carr for a third or later.Carr backs up Favre and learns a thing or two about how to win. :)
I cant take credit for this, but I do think that it would make alot of sense. Then they can fill other needs on the team.
 
They trade their first round pick to San Diego for Turner
I DON'T see it happening but a more likely scenerio would be the Pack moving their 1st (#16) and 2nd to teh Chargers for Turner and SD's 1st (#30). 1.16 even up for Turner is way too high of a price to pay for a RB via trade.
 
I would not be suprised if TT has decided to go with cheap, interchangeable RBs the way Denver does. Denver seems to think that with their blocking scheme and the one-cut running, they do not need a superstar to have a productive ground game.

That is why I do not see a trade for a RB but rather signing one more cheap one (Tony Fisher?).

 
I would not be suprised if TT has decided to go with cheap, interchangeable RBs the way Denver does. Denver seems to think that with their blocking scheme and the one-cut running, they do not need a superstar to have a productive ground game.That is why I do not see a trade for a RB but rather signing one more cheap one (Tony Fisher?).
TT cut Fisher once already. I don't see him bringing him back.But I think there is some validity to your main point. I keep seeing Lynch going to the Pack in almost every mock I see. Every time the punditry world thinks a pick is a lock, esp outside of the the top 5, it is almost always wrong.
 
I would not be suprised if TT has decided to go with cheap, interchangeable RBs the way Denver does. Denver seems to think that with their blocking scheme and the one-cut running, they do not need a superstar to have a productive ground game.That is why I do not see a trade for a RB but rather signing one more cheap one (Tony Fisher?).
TT cut Fisher once already. I don't see him bringing him back.But I think there is some validity to your main point. I keep seeing Lynch going to the Pack in almost every mock I see. Every time the punditry world thinks a pick is a lock, esp outside of the the top 5, it is almost always wrong.
Fisher left as a FA.
 
TT cut Fisher once already. I don't see him bringing him back.

Agreed, but there were a lot more RBs on roster then. I just threw Fisher out as someone who might compement who they have (fast, good receiver).

They cut Davenport too but might not with their current roster.

 
I just have a feeling the Packers are not going to draft Lynch. I have nothing to base this off of but I just get the feeling they are going to go another way.

 
I would not be suprised if TT has decided to go with cheap, interchangeable RBs the way Denver does. Denver seems to think that with their blocking scheme and the one-cut running, they do not need a superstar to have a productive ground game.That is why I do not see a trade for a RB but rather signing one more cheap one (Tony Fisher?).
TT cut Fisher once already. I don't see him bringing him back.But I think there is some validity to your main point. I keep seeing Lynch going to the Pack in almost every mock I see. Every time the punditry world thinks a pick is a lock, esp outside of the the top 5, it is almost always wrong.
Fisher left as a FA.
:banned: Got me.But you know what I mean.
 
I just have a feeling the Packers are not going to draft Lynch. I have nothing to base this off of but I just get the feeling they are going to go another way.
I agree 100%. I can't say why, I just get the feeling Thompson, the old linebacker, will continue to build his defense and let McCarthy and Favre make do with what they have on offense.
 
The exception to this might be O-line.

I don't see too many good ones going aournd #16, so I would guess they take one in the 2nd or 3rd.

 
I would not be suprised if TT has decided to go with cheap, interchangeable RBs the way Denver does. Denver seems to think that with their blocking scheme and the one-cut running, they do not need a superstar to have a productive ground game.That is why I do not see a trade for a RB but rather signing one more cheap one (Tony Fisher?).
TT cut Fisher once already. I don't see him bringing him back.But I think there is some validity to your main point. I keep seeing Lynch going to the Pack in almost every mock I see. Every time the punditry world thinks a pick is a lock, esp outside of the the top 5, it is almost always wrong.
Fisher left as a FA.
:lmao: Got me.But you know what I mean.
:bag: As far as I remember, TT didn't try to match the offer either, and I'm not sure TT even gave Fisher an offer. So he must not have felt Fisher was worth the money to begin with.
 
I just have a feeling the Packers are not going to draft Lynch. I have nothing to base this off of but I just get the feeling they are going to go another way.
I agree 100%. I can't say why, I just get the feeling Thompson, the old linebacker, will continue to build his defense and let McCarthy and Favre make do with what they have on offense.
I'm starting to feel the same way too. I don't think Lynch would be a bad pick, but I also don't think they need a 1st round RB to run in their system. I'd be plenty happy with getting Irons/Booker, or some other a mid tier back to go along with Morency, while getting another top defensive player in the 1st or trading down to get additional 2nd's/3rd's. It'd be great to have a WR like Ginn who could be nice threat on both offense and special teams, but until he can prove the ankle is OK I have no idea where to expect him to go. One of the top WR's has got to fall to the early/mid 2nd, and TT has done well picking the right WR in the 2nd so I won't question him if he waits until then to take one.Reggie Nelson is a guy I'm still real high on, and I wouldn't be upset with him at #16. Then at the same time, I like Michael Griffin and he might be had 20 picks later. Or trade down a few spots for someone like Meriweather? And even though LB seems to be one of their better areas right now, I'd absolutley love to see Patrick Willis fall to them, although that is probably highly doubtful now after his proday workout.I think the top 10-12 players are really shaping up and unless one falls to them I'd really like to see TT trade down. The more I look at the 2nd round guys, the more I like them and want additional picks in that range.
 
I think they have too many needs to address a corner position in the 1st...or even on the first day.With Harris and Woodson they are set in at least the short term...signed Walker for depth.I think they go safety far before they go corner.
ers don't haI agree. The Packers #1 weakness is safety. If they had an all Pro at that position last year they would have made the playoffs maybe even made it all the way the Superbowl.
:bs:
 
I just have a feeling the Packers are not going to draft Lynch. I have nothing to base this off of but I just get the feeling they are going to go another way.
I agree 100%. I can't say why, I just get the feeling Thompson, the old linebacker, will continue to build his defense and let McCarthy and Favre make do with what they have on offense.
I'm starting to feel the same way too. I don't think Lynch would be a bad pick, but I also don't think they need a 1st round RB to run in their system. I'd be plenty happy with getting Irons/Booker, or some other a mid tier back to go along with Morency, while getting another top defensive player in the 1st or trading down to get additional 2nd's/3rd's. It'd be great to have a WR like Ginn who could be nice threat on both offense and special teams, but until he can prove the ankle is OK I have no idea where to expect him to go. One of the top WR's has got to fall to the early/mid 2nd, and TT has done well picking the right WR in the 2nd so I won't question him if he waits until then to take one.Reggie Nelson is a guy I'm still real high on, and I wouldn't be upset with him at #16. Then at the same time, I like Michael Griffin and he might be had 20 picks later. Or trade down a few spots for someone like Meriweather? And even though LB seems to be one of their better areas right now, I'd absolutley love to see Patrick Willis fall to them, although that is probably highly doubtful now after his proday workout.I think the top 10-12 players are really shaping up and unless one falls to them I'd really like to see TT trade down. The more I look at the 2nd round guys, the more I like them and want additional picks in that range.
Once again I agree with everything Kleck says. What do you think of the need to bring in talent on defensive line, given a likely KGB departure at some point?
 
I just have a feeling the Packers are not going to draft Lynch. I have nothing to base this off of but I just get the feeling they are going to go another way.
I agree 100%. I can't say why, I just get the feeling Thompson, the old linebacker, will continue to build his defense and let McCarthy and Favre make do with what they have on offense.
I'm starting to feel the same way too. I don't think Lynch would be a bad pick, but I also don't think they need a 1st round RB to run in their system. I'd be plenty happy with getting Irons/Booker, or some other a mid tier back to go along with Morency, while getting another top defensive player in the 1st or trading down to get additional 2nd's/3rd's. It'd be great to have a WR like Ginn who could be nice threat on both offense and special teams, but until he can prove the ankle is OK I have no idea where to expect him to go. One of the top WR's has got to fall to the early/mid 2nd, and TT has done well picking the right WR in the 2nd so I won't question him if he waits until then to take one.Reggie Nelson is a guy I'm still real high on, and I wouldn't be upset with him at #16. Then at the same time, I like Michael Griffin and he might be had 20 picks later. Or trade down a few spots for someone like Meriweather? And even though LB seems to be one of their better areas right now, I'd absolutley love to see Patrick Willis fall to them, although that is probably highly doubtful now after his proday workout.I think the top 10-12 players are really shaping up and unless one falls to them I'd really like to see TT trade down. The more I look at the 2nd round guys, the more I like them and want additional picks in that range.
Once again I agree with everything Kleck says. What do you think of the need to bring in talent on defensive line, given a likely KGB departure at some point?
I don't think KGB leaving is as set as some people seem to. I know he's got a high salary, but it's not like we're up against the cap. If they can get something for him in trade (highly doubtful) they should do it, but don't cut him. He can still rush the passer, which is always a need in the NFL.In regards to the d-line: With the team most likely running Jenkins/Kampman at DE with KGB coming off the bench on passing downs, I would think the focus would be more on the DT position. Pickett is good, but not a game changer by any means. Cole is just a body. Williams is versatile, which is why they want to extend him, but he's not starting material. A good 3 technique DT would be just what the defense needs.
 
I am becoming increasingly fond of the idea of trading down to about pick 23 or so.

Perhaps KC would move up.

Would still be able to get Griffin for sure, and maybe Nelson, Ross, Revis, or a lot of O-linemen with lots of potential.

 
As a unit, I don't think the D-line is horrible, but they aren't anything that excites me to the point where I think they are close to set at either. I think Aaronstory has it right on the DTs. A game breaking, top talent do-all kind of DT would really be a huge addition. If by the grace of Saint Vincent, Branch or Okoye should fall to #16 it would be a no brainer, but that extremely unlikely to happen. The next tier DTs don't excite me a whole lot, but Brandon Mcbane or Ryan McBean could be interesting prospects. Getting a big mammoth DT/NT that could really fill some running lanes could also be nice.

Jenkins was almost a dream come true at the end of the year. I know I said a few times last year around that I felt DE was a big need. Mostly because I didn't think KGB was worth a damn being on the field every down and trying to stop the run. Jenkins gives KGB the much needed rest and ability to get him back to doing what he does best (and only good at), rush the passer. And with Kampman on the other side, I think their starting unit is a lot to be happy about. God I love Kampman. They could really use some depth though. If KGB can't get back to his double digit sack totals, I could see Green Bay cutting him loose.

KGB still has around $4.7M in pro-rated signing bonus that I believe would all come due now if he were cut. That won't happen, but next year his pro-rated signing bonus will be around around $3.1M, which would still be a big hit, but his base salary also increases to $6.15M. Here is his base salary, pro-rated signing bonus and total cap hit for the remainder of his contract, plus an estimated cap hit if he were cut before that season.

2007

Base salary = $5,000,000

Signing Bonus = $1,571,429

Total cap hit of $6,571,429

Cap hit if cut = $4,714,287

2008

Base salary = $6,150,000

Signing Bonus = $1,571,429

Total cap hit of $7,721,429

Cap hit if cut = $3,142,858

2009

Base salary = $7,300,000

Signing Bonus = $1,571,429

Total cap hit of $8,871,419

Cap hit if cut = $1,571,429

This will be an important year for KGB's future in Green Bay. Another 6 or 7 sack season could possibly send him packing. As long as Kampman and Jenkins stay healthy so KGB can go back to being a pass rush specialist, I see no reason why he can't get back up into the 10+ sack range. If he can keep that up I could see him live out the remainder of his current contract, but he'll also turn 30 this year and it will be his 8th season so I'm not going to say anything is certain.

 
I think KGB is pretty expensive at that cost.

I was hoping that if Green Bay were able to be sure of drafting someone at the position with talent, they might try to trade KGB for a pick (3rd?). But Kleck's summary of costs makes that seem unlikely.

 
I think KGB is pretty expensive at that cost.

I was hoping that if Green Bay were able to be sure of drafting someone at the position with talent, they might try to trade KGB for a pick (3rd?). But Kleck's summary of costs makes that seem unlikely.
No team on God's green Earth is going to give up a 3rd round pick for an overpriced, 30 year old DE that is only effective on passing downs. MAYBE a 7th.
 
No team on God's green Earth is going to give up a 3rd round pick for an overpriced, 30 year old DE that is only effective on passing downs. MAYBE a 7th.

Agreed. Once I realized how fat his paycheck is I started doubting they would get much of anything. Obviously, this realization (later in me than most) is what fuels speculation about cutting him.

Right now, I would take a decent WR3 for him.

 
No team on God's green Earth is going to give up a 3rd round pick for an overpriced, 30 year old DE that is only effective on passing downs. MAYBE a 7th.

Agreed. Once I realized how fat his paycheck is I started doubting they would get much of anything. Obviously, this realization (later in me than most) is what fuels speculation about cutting him.

Right now, I would take a decent WR3 for him.

Why so desperate to get rid of him? Just because he has no trade value doesn't mean he doesn't have value to the Packers. I would love to see a whole season of KGB coming of the bench on passing downs. Like Kleck said, if he produces, you keep him. If not, cut him after next season.

 
On The Sidelines

March 23, 2007

Written by Joe Arrigo - PackerChatters Staff

PACKERS rumors:

I said yesterday the Packers were up to something and they still are....I can't go any further into what it is and I will not elaborate any further due to the nature of what they are ATTEMPTING to do.

Look for Terrelle Smith to make a choice between the Packers and Cardinals by Sunday.

Randy Moss is still an option, BUT each day a deal is NOT made, the more the Packers are exploring "other" options. A draft deal is the most likely scenario if the Packers were to acquire Moss, unless something changes drastically between the Raiders and Packers.

If the Packers do not show "major" (or shall I say more) interest in Ken Hamlin by the end of the weekend, look for him to be a Cowboy. The market is drying up and with a decent S draft class, Hamlin wants to be on a new team ASAP. I was told the Packers were in contact with Hamlin's rep as of last night.

The Packers were contacted by the Eagles to gauge interest in DT Darwin Walker. The Eagles are looking to move him for a late round pick since they signed Montae Reagor.

I was told that the top 2 players on the Packers draft board are Calvin Johnson and Adrian Peterson, in that order, by a LARGE margin.

Don't be surprised if the Packers have Jacoby Jones up in Green Bay for a visit before the draft.

I guess the Packers staff have been watching tons of film on Peterson and are becoming more and more impressed with him. I wouldn't be surprised if they make a move up if he starts to fall.

Marshawn Lynch and the "back problem" has not scared away to many teams, including Green Bay, who still have him on their draft board.

Also from Arrigo, "There are 4 players the Packers would trade up for and they are Calvin Johnson, Adrian Peterson, LaRon Landry and Amobi Okoye. A trade up is DEFINITELY an option the Packers are exploring."

I drink a big glass of saltwater when reading articles from Arrigo, but they can have entertainment/discussion values.

 
AD I would like. I am lukewarm at best on Marshawn. I'd like to solidify the defense in the first personally. I'd also prefer Ted Ginn Jr. to Marshawn. However, don't be surprised if the Packers slide back and then take a guy like Meachem or Lynch if they are available.

 

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