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Quick observations -

QB Sanchez/Stafford did well

RB D. Brown, Wells did well

WR Maclin, Britt, Massaquoi, Robiskie did well

RB McCoy, Moreno did poorly

WR Nicks, Havin did poorly

I expected Moreno to do better, confirms my thoughts on Wells, Brown, Robiskie and confirms my thoughts on McCoy, Nicks

 
Looks like Stafford outscored Ryan, whose intelligence was raved about. Stafford's been talked up as a student of the game, and I think it bodes well for his success.

Nicks 11/31 was disappointing. So is Crabtree's 15/22. His 22 questions answered ranks among the lowest. Sure, he got them right, but when you're answering 15 fewer questions than the average WR, that's weird.

 
I think the test does give you a little insight. I don't think it's worthless. Like some of the other measurables, you need to look at the extremes. The REALLY smart guys may stand out, and some REALLY dumb guys should stand out as well, but I think it has more to do with position too. I'd set some guidelines like 18+ for OL, WR and TE who are the true "skill" positions on offense... the guys who have to know adjustment plays like read and react blocking assignments and route trees. 20+ for QBs. RB is an instinctive postion and intelligence is less required. It may give clues as to how they pick up blocking assignments that may cause them to lose the field to a 3rd down back, but I don't knock RBs for Wonderlick scores. Defensive players are different animals, and I don't think the test is as useful to guage them. I will say that a bad score doesn't disqualify anybody, but gives a team reason to make a more thorough examination and could explain why a guy like Knox got so many workouts. His (out of nowhere) standout combine #s and poor Wonderlick told teams that his value could be all over the place and they needed to refine their opinions. We, as fantasy players can only make judgement by what we see since we can't interview them. Media can help us only so much with this. So, with no further delay... my ignorant opinion on several players.

All 3 of the QBs are worth a shot. I think 2 of the 3 make it as starters in the league and the 3rd gets a couple opportunities to be a starter. Not bad.

RBs - I don't care.

TEs - Beckham is the only one that gets my attention. 16 of 46 his 1st time tells me he was answering "c, c, c..." and still couldn't finish.

WRs - RED FLAG warnings have been posted on Harvin (for more reasons than one he's now fallen off my draft board 'till late 2nd in a rookie draft), Hey-Bey, Nicks, Knox, and Byrd. Crab did have only 15/22, so I'm thinking he wasn't trained for this test to skip the longer, harder questions and come back to them later so as to score better & more quickly. Maclin had good #s (25 of 39) and just cemented his spot as #2 WR to me as Harvin and Nicks have fallen out of the race. Barden's 28/31 is very impressive. Dillard's 24 of 30 is respectable and Robiske's 26 of 38 leave me no concern as to their ability to absorb a playbook and make route reads.

OTs - A.Smith also did the "c, c, c..." test, but he did finish and only scored 17/50. 17 correct looks good on paper if you ignore that it was 34%! I question if he can read. Jason Smith's 22/50 is not a whole lot better, and with his lack of experience in a 3-point stance and having to learn proper technique while learning a playbook with a 44% test doesn't inspire me. A decent score on both pre-test and combine of 23/27 and 23/37 respectively, J.Meredith has a good outlook, and Monroe scored well on his pre-test with 26/31 but hurried on his combine test scoring only 24/42. Oher's 19 right looks good 'till you figure in his 46 questions answered. Britton's 31/49 looks pretty good when compared to other OTs.

OGs - 36/49. Andy Levitre. Big bump when compared to others at his postition.

Cs - The big 3 did well, with Mack getting 26/50 improving on his 24/48. Unger had 20 and 21 right out of a possible 27, but E.Wood blew them both away with 31/45 to improve on his 29/48. A.Q. Shipley's 40/46 is an attention getter.

 
Stafford went to high school at Highland Park in Dallas. One of the top prep schools in the nation with an incredible rate of college graduates. It's not a private school but due to the high dollar value of the homes in this neighborhood it might as well be a private school and as such it has all of the parental expectations of performance and resources of a private school.

If I'm not mistaken our last president just moved to Highland Park.

 
bjabrad said:
Stafford went to high school at Highland Park in Dallas. One of the top prep schools in the nation with an incredible rate of college graduates. It's not a private school but due to the high dollar value of the homes in this neighborhood it might as well be a private school and as such it has all of the parental expectations of performance and resources of a private school. If I'm not mistaken our last president just moved to Highland Park.
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that's a shame that you have to go to private school to figure out how much 3 hotdogs cost when they're one dollar each.edit: I thought those scores were supposed to be secret.
 
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bjabrad said:
Stafford went to high school at Highland Park in Dallas. One of the top prep schools in the nation with an incredible rate of college graduates. It's not a private school but due to the high dollar value of the homes in this neighborhood it might as well be a private school and as such it has all of the parental expectations of performance and resources of a private school. If I'm not mistaken our last president just moved to Highland Park.
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The last president is not a Highland Park resident. I believe he is in Dallas (Preston Hollow area).
 
pgreenfan said:
bjabrad said:
Stafford went to high school at Highland Park in Dallas. One of the top prep schools in the nation with an incredible rate of college graduates. It's not a private school but due to the high dollar value of the homes in this neighborhood it might as well be a private school and as such it has all of the parental expectations of performance and resources of a private school. If I'm not mistaken our last president just moved to Highland Park.
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The last president is not a Highland Park resident. I believe he is in Dallas (Preston Hollow area).
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I think Ross Perot lives in Highland Park though.
 
Here are the smartest guys:

Harper

Reily

Parker-Wilson

Jennings

Gronkowski

T. Johnson

Means

Swift

Mack

R. Allen

Isdaner

Cadogan

A. Smith

J. Smith

Favorite

Derrick Marks

McRath

Glenn

Ellison

Clemons

Barnes

K. lewis

The only number people remember is the number you get right. These are the only guys that answered all 50 questions. I'd rather have a guy who gets 23/50 than a guy who gets 17/20. At least the guy who answered them all and only guessed at an average rate on the last 30 realized that he could score higher by guessing. The guy who answered only 20 is just slow.

 
This is the one that stood out to me. A 19 question improvement? :shrug:

CORNERBACKS

Name School 1st test Combine Difference

Kevin Barnes Maryland 22/33 41/50 19

 
bjabrad said:
Stafford went to high school at Highland Park in Dallas. One of the top prep schools in the nation with an incredible rate of college graduates. It's not a private school but due to the high dollar value of the homes in this neighborhood it might as well be a private school and as such it has all of the parental expectations of performance and resources of a private school.

If I'm not mistaken our last president just moved to Highland Park.
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There have been quite a few professional athletes graduate from Highland Park notably Doak Walker and Bobby Layne who played on the same team. I graduated from Mesquite High School right outside Dallas and Highland Park was a team that we played quite often. They usually had a very good team with some outstanding athletes. This is cut and pasted from Wikipedia:Highland Park High has one of the most successful and tradition-rich athletic programs in Texas. In 2005, Sports Illustrated listed them as the best sports program in the state of Texas (16th in the US).[7]

As of 2007[update], Highland Park Scots football teams have made a state-record 49 playoff appearances. Since 1944, they have had six state finals appearances. Coached by Rusty Russell (1942-45) and led by Doak Walker and Bobby Layne, the Scots made the final consecutive times in 1944 and 1945. After losing 20-7 to Port Arthur in 1944, Highland Park battled Waco to a 7-7 tie in front of a record 45,790 crowd at the Cotton Bowl.[8] In 1947, Highland Park lost the state final 22-13 to San Antonio Brackenridge, while in 1957 they defeated Port Arthur 21-9 under the guidance of Thurman Jones.

The Highland Park football team is currently coached by Randy Allen, who holds a 244-69-6 record as of 2006, placing him 19th on the Texas All-Time Coaching Records Ranking. On August 30, 2008, the Highland Park football program became the first Texas high school football team to win 700 games with a win over Red Oak High School.

In 2005, Allen guided the Scots to a 59-0 rout over Marshall, the largest margin-of-victory ever in a UIL 11-man state championship football game. This also produced the first-ever undefeated, un-tied team at Highland Park. (The 1945 team was undefeated but tied by Waco High School in the state championship game.) In 2007, the Scots went undefeated into the state final against Garrett Gilbert-lead Austin Lake Travis, but lost 36-34.

Here is a list of athletes who graduated from HPHS. Angie Harmon and John Hinckley Jr. also graduated from there.

Athletics

* Fred Benners, quarterback for the New York Giants

* David Browning, 1952 Olympic gold medalist in 3-meter springboard diving

* Harrison Frazar, professional golfer

* Mike Heath, swimmer who won two gold medals and one silver at 1984 Olympics

* Clayton Kershaw, 2008 Starting pitcher for the Los Angeles Dodgers; seventh overall pick in the 2006 Major League Baseball Draft

* Shaun Jordan, two-time Olympic gold medalist as part of 400-meter free-relay teams at the 1988 Olympics and the 1992 Olympics

* Hank Kuehne, PGA golfer and 1998 United States Men's Amateur golf champion

* Kelli Kuehne, LPGA golfer and two-time United States Women's Amateur golf champion

* Bobby Layne, Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee

* Richard Quick, Auburn University swim coach and 5-time U.S. Olympic coach

* Kyle Williams, offensive tackle for the Seattle Seahawks

* Dave Richards, offensive guard/offensive tackle in the NFL

* John Roach, quarterback, defensive back and punter for the Green Bay Packers, Dallas Cowboys

* Kyle Rote, Jr., NASL soccer star, son of Kyle Rote

* Anthony Schlegel, former linebacker for the New York Jets and Cincinnati Bengals

* Daniel Sepulveda, two-time Ray Guy Award winner, punter for the Pittsburgh Steelers

* Matthew Stafford, quarterback for the Georgia Bulldogs

* Doak Walker, 1948 Heisman Trophy winner and Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee

* Chris Young, San Diego Padres All-Star pitcher

 
QuizGuy66 said:
This is the one that stood out to me. A 19 question improvement? :lol: CORNERBACKS Name School 1st test Combine DifferenceKevin Barnes Maryland 22/33 41/50 19
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Actually, I think it makes sense. He did well on the first test, but probably took too much time on the hard ones. I think on the second test, he realized he had to skip (probably guessed) the harder ones at first and answer everything he knew quickly and then went back to make some guesses.To me, that would strike me as someone who is a pretty smart (for the NFL, not FBGs) guy who not only knew correct answers but was able to adjust the way he took the test after understanding how it worked the first time.
 
I thought this one was interesting. He answered a similar amount of questions, but went from a 5 to an 18. Really, a 5?!

Demonte Bolden Tennessee 5/27 18/33

 
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bjabrad said:
Stafford went to high school at Highland Park in Dallas. One of the top prep schools in the nation with an incredible rate of college graduates. It's not a private school but due to the high dollar value of the homes in this neighborhood it might as well be a private school and as such it has all of the parental expectations of performance and resources of a private school. If I'm not mistaken our last president just moved to Highland Park.
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Born and Raised in HP before I moved to Sherman, Tx in 10th grade (which produced Hunter Smith, Punter colts and my HS teammate Charlie Johnson, LT colts). I cant say I would've preferred HP over say South Lake.. talk about a big time program that plays BIG TIME teams.Regradless.. I don't believe HP is more superior compared to many other Dallas based programs. May have more money but not necessarily better athletes.. just better networking. :goodposting:Snobby area with unrealistic expectations on many things... I'll leave it at that.
 
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