A quick internet search got this (dated) result:http://www.macmirabile.com/Wonderlic/Wonderlic.htmI think we need more than two scores - which may or may not be outliers - to answer such a question.
InterestingMarino, Dan 1983 Pittsburgh 14
Flawed reasoning there. For example, most lawyers agree that the LSAT has nothing to do with skills that attorneys exhibit in practicing law; yet law schools ahere to the concept that the LSAT is a reasonable barometer. Are the vast majority of practicing attorneys wrong about the purported barometer just because the status quo has always admistered the exam?If it wasn't deemed to be a tangible barometer, among many other factors, it wouldn't be continued to be a measuring stick.
Alex Smith has small hands.....does that mean anything?Vince Young scored a 6???Alex Smith a 40+?Are there two more similar QB stories in all of the NFL?Does the Wonderlic score mean ANYTHING?
Sure it does.As I said, "one of many" barometers.These guys had already displayed the skills in the passing game, and understanding of reading defenses.Vince Young displayed "nil."Peyton Manning didn't score all that well on this test either, but was there ever any question as to his mind for the game? No.During his college years (away from home) he didn't know how to open a can of soup and even tried to heat it up in the microwave, but you hand him a playbook and he can tell you exactly what's laid out.Marino, Dan 14Favre, Brett 22McNabb, Donovan 16, 12Means nothing...
I'm just simply stating a fact there, counselor.Flawed reasoning there. For example, most lawyers agree that the LSAT has nothing to do with skills that attorneys exhibit in practicing law; yet law schools ahere to the concept that the LSAT is a reasonable barometer. Are the vast majority of practicing attorneys wrong about the purported barometer just because the status quo has always admistered the exam?If it wasn't deemed to be a tangible barometer, among many other factors, it wouldn't be continued to be a measuring stick.
Umm... you just proved my point that it means nothing.Sure it does.As I said, "one of many" barometers.These guys had already displayed the skills in the passing game, and understanding of reading defenses.Vince Young displayed "nil."Peyton Manning didn't score all that well on this test either, but was there ever any question as to his mind for the game? No.During his college years (away from home) he didn't know how to open a can of soup and even tried to heat it up in the microwave, but you hand him a playbook and he can tell you exactly what's laid out.Marino, Dan 14Favre, Brett 22McNabb, Donovan 16, 12Means nothing...
Just because you don't understand what it means doesn't mean it means nothing.Everything means something. If the wonderlik doesn't register football knowledge it needs toUmm... you just proved my point that it means nothing.Sure it does.As I said, "one of many" barometers.These guys had already displayed the skills in the passing game, and understanding of reading defenses.Vince Young displayed "nil."Peyton Manning didn't score all that well on this test either, but was there ever any question as to his mind for the game? No.During his college years (away from home) he didn't know how to open a can of soup and even tried to heat it up in the microwave, but you hand him a playbook and he can tell you exactly what's laid out.Marino, Dan 14Favre, Brett 22McNabb, Donovan 16, 12Means nothing...
"Jeep Chryst" Also, didn't Javon Walker score ~6 as well? Being 40+ doesn't seem to matter, but being under 10 definitely seems to.Homer said:
I took one for a job interview last summer. Scored 39. What do you make of that?Charlie Harper said:Marino, Dan 14Favre, Brett 22McNabb, Donovan 16, 12
Egg zacklyCharlie Harper said:Means nothing...
I've always thought there was something wrong with him watching him do colour commentary on TV...MCguidance said:InterestingMarino, Dan 1983 Pittsburgh 14
Good thing retirement remedied that.Dan Marino WAS dumb.
There may not be a singal test, but is there a single test?A: yes they matter.Though no singal test is going to predict success or failure.
Based on these lists I would rather take my chances with the guys scoring over 25 rather than the guys scoring under 20. Besides Marino, Bradshaw and McNabb, the second group is pretty pedestrian. I never thought Bradshaw was that good--he played on a great team. McNabb is an athletic Qb and in his own way, so was Marino.Notable High Scores:
Drew Henson 42
Alex Smith 40
Eli Manning 39
Tony Romo 37
Drew Bledsoe 36
Matt Leinart 35
Kellen Clemens 35
Tom Brady 33
John Beck 30
Philip Rivers 30
Brady Quinn 29
Drew Brees 28
Peyton Manning 28
Ryan Leaf 27
Ben Roethlisberger 25
Notable Low Scores:
Tarvaris Jackson 19
Derek Anderson 19
Vince Young 16
Dan Marino 15
Terry Bradshaw 15
Donovan McNabb 14
David Garrard 14
Kordell Stewart 13
Marcus Vick 11
Jeff George 10
Chris Leak 8*
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When had Favre displayed any skills in reading defenses? He did not even know what a nickel defense was until Ty Detmer told him once he got to Green Bay.Sure it does.As I said, "one of many" barometers.These guys had already displayed the skills in the passing game, and understanding of reading defenses.Vince Young displayed "nil."Peyton Manning didn't score all that well on this test either, but was there ever any question as to his mind for the game? No.During his college years (away from home) he didn't know how to open a can of soup and even tried to heat it up in the microwave, but you hand him a playbook and he can tell you exactly what's laid out.Charlie Harper said:Marino, Dan 14Favre, Brett 22McNabb, Donovan 16, 12Means nothing...
Only if they smell like cabbage....Alex Smith has small hands.....does that mean anything?Vince Young scored a 6???Alex Smith a 40+?Are there two more similar QB stories in all of the NFL?Does the Wonderlic score mean ANYTHING?
The fact part of your statement was that it has been continued to be used as a measuring stick. Your statement that "if it wasn't deemed to be a tangible barometer" is an opinion, not a fact.I'm just simply stating a fact there, counselor.Flawed reasoning there. For example, most lawyers agree that the LSAT has nothing to do with skills that attorneys exhibit in practicing law; yet law schools ahere to the concept that the LSAT is a reasonable barometer. Are the vast majority of practicing attorneys wrong about the purported barometer just because the status quo has always admistered the exam?If it wasn't deemed to be a tangible barometer, among many other factors, it wouldn't be continued to be a measuring stick.
It obviously means the test is racially biased.I feel almost dirty posting this, and I'm definitely not trying to draw a correlation or anything, but this just jumped out at me while scanning these lists.
Notable High Scores:
Drew Henson 42 - white
Alex Smith 40 - white
Eli Manning 39 - white
Tony Romo 37 - white
Drew Bledsoe 36 - white
Matt Leinart 35 - white
Kellen Clemens 35 - white
Tom Brady 33 - white
John Beck 30 - white
Philip Rivers 30 - white
Brady Quinn 29 - white
Drew Brees 28 - white
Peyton Manning 28 - white
Ryan Leaf 27 - white
Ben Roethlisberger 25 - white
Notable Low Scores:
Tarvaris Jackson 19 - black
Derek Anderson 19 - white
Vince Young 16 - black
Dan Marino 15 - white
Terry Bradshaw 15 - white
Donovan McNabb 14 - black
David Garrard 14 - black
Kordell Stewart 13 - black
Marcus Vick 11 - black
Jeff George 10 - white
Chris Leak 8* - black