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BATTLE OF THE ATLANTIC II

Those who wish to, can refer back to Battle of the Atlantic I, which was post #675 on page 14. There was a follow up on post #677.

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...1652&st=650

By the end of the war, German U-Boats in the Battle of the Atlantic had sent over 2,900 ships and 14 million tons of Allied shipping to the bottom of the sea. In exchange, the Allies sank almost 800 U-Boats and over 30,000 of the 39,000 German sailors who put to sea, never returned – the highest casualty rate of any armed service in the history of modern war.

During the early war, German U-Boat successes against British and American shipping were so remarkable, that in January 1943, the Allies issued a decree in Casablanca which made the defeat of German U-Boats a number one priority. Winston Churchill, the then Prime Minister of Britain was most noted in his speech summarizing the German U-boats and the Battle of the Atlantic as "The only thing that ever really frightened me during the war was the U-boat peril".

When did the tide turn against the U-boats, who enjoyed such early success at the beginning of the war, and again when America entered the war, that they called those times “the Happy Times”?

By August 1942, U-boats were being fitted with radar detectors to enable them to avoid the sudden ambushes which a radar-equipped aircraft or corvette might spring. The first such receiver, named Metox after its French manufacturer, was capable of picking up the metric radar bands used by the early radars. This not only enabled U-boats to avoid detection by Canadian and U.S. escorts, which were equipped with obsolete radar sets, but allowed them to track convoys where these sets were in use.

After a lull during the winter months, because of cold and wild weather, in the spring of 1943 convoy battles started up again with the same ferocity. By the spring of 1943, there were so many U-boats on patrol in the North Atlantic that it was difficult for the convoys to evade detection, resulting in a succession of vicious convoy battles. In March the escorts were heavily defeated in the battles of convoys UGS 6, HX 228, SC 121, SC 122 and HX 229. One hundred twenty Allied ships were sunk worldwide, 82 ships of 476,000 tons in the Atlantic, and 12 U-boats were destroyed.

The supply situation in Britain was such that there was talk of being unable to continue the war effort, with supplies of fuel being particularly low. It appeared that Admiral Dönitz was winning the war. And yet the next two months would see a complete reversal of fortunes.

In April, losses of U-boats increased while their kills of ships fell dramatically. Thirty-nine ships of 235,000 tons were sunk in the Atlantic, and 15 U-boats were destroyed.

By May, wolf packs no longer had the advantage and that month was to become known as Black May for the U-Boat Arm. The turning point was the battle centered around the slow Convoy ONS 5 (April–May 1943), when a convoy of 43 merchantmen escorted by 16 warships was attacked by a pack of 30 U-boats. Although 13 merchant ships were sunk, six U-boats were sunk by the escorts or Allied aircraft.

Despite a storm which scattered the convoy, the merchantmen reached the protection of land-based air cover causing Admiral Dönitz to call off the attack. Two weeks later, SC 130 saw five U-boats destroyed for no losses. Faced with disaster, Donitz called off operations in the North Atlantic. In all, 43 U-boats were destroyed in May, 34 in the Atlantic. This was 25% of Germany's total operational U-boat strength. The Allies lost 58 ships in May, 34 ships of 134,000 tons of these in the Atlantic.

The Battle of the Atlantic was won by the Allies in two months. There was no single reason for this, but what had changed was a sudden convergence of technologies, combined with an increase in Allied resources.

The mid-Atlantic gap that had been unreachable by aircraft was closed by long-range B-24 Liberator aircraft. Effective employment of these aircraft required shift of operational control from the United States Army Air Forces Antisubmarine Command to the United States Navy.

By spring 1943 the British had developed an effective sea-scanning centimetric radar small enough to be carried on patrol aircraft armed with airborne depth charges. Centimetric radar greatly improved detection and was undetectable by the German Metox radar warning equipment.

Further air cover was provided by the introduction of merchant aircraft carrier or MAC ships and later the growing numbers of American-built escort carriers. Flying primarily Grumman F4F/FM Wildcats and Grumman TBF/TBM Avengers, they sailed in the convoys and provided the much needed air cover and patrols all the way across the Atlantic. (Escort carriers, or baby flattops, usually had about 24 to 30 planes—they were used to support troop landings and were outstanding as submarine hunters—they achieved lasting fame during the Battle of Leyte Gulf).

The larger numbers of escorts became available, both as a result of American building programs and the release of escorts that had been tied up in the North African landings during November and December 1942. In particular, destroyer escorts (similar British ships were known as frigates) were designed, which could be built more economically than expensive fleet destroyers and were also more seaworthy than corvettes. (In 1943, the US war machine produced 300 destroyer escorts).

There would not only be sufficient numbers of escorts to securely protect convoys, they could also form hunter-killer groups (often centered around escort carriers) to aggressively hunt U-boats.

The continual breaking of the German naval Enigma enabled the Allied convoys to evade the wolf packs while British support groups and American hunter-killer groups were able to hunt U-boats that approached the convoys or whose positions were revealed by Enigma decrypts.

Donitz’s aim, in this tonnage war was to sink Allied ships faster than they could be replaced; as losses fell, and production, particularly in the U.S., rose, this became increasingly unachievable.

Allied air forces developed tactics and technology to make the Bay of Biscay, the main route for French based U-boats, very dangerous. The introduction of the Leigh Light enabled accurate attacks on U-boats re-charging their batteries on the surface at night. The Luftwaffe responded by providing fighter cover for U-boats exiting into and returning from the Atlantic and for returning blockade runners. Still, with intelligence coming from resistance personnel in the ports themselves, the last few miles to and from port proved hazardous to many U-Boats.

We will return to the Battle of the Atlantic in the latter stages of the war.

 
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Wow! I finally got through this entire thread. Great stuff guys. I've thoroughly enjoyed it so far, keep up the good work! :goodposting: :(

 
Ozy, good stuff on the Battle of the Atlantic. However, are you going to do anything on the US submarine war against Japan in the Pacific? Silent Victory by Clay Blair Jr, is the definitive book on the US Fleet's battle against the Japanese.

 
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North Africa, Continued

Rommel returned to Germany in January, 1943 to plead wtih Hitler to withdraw the Afrika Korps. He had been appalled by the amount and quality of American war materiel flowing into North Africa and had concluded that all of the tactical skill in the world could only delay the eventual collapse of Axis forces. Hitler responded to this information in typical fashion for him: he called Rommel a coward. (Remember that this was exactly the same time period that Paulus was surrendering at Stalingrad.) Hitler then assured Rommel that he would be given all necessary help, and ordered Goering: "See to it that the Afrika Korp has whatever they need." Goering assured Hitler it would be done.

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Goering escorted Rommel to Rome by special train. This gave Rommel the chance to size up the corpulent Field Marshal. Hermann Goering, despite his thuggery and great evil, had once been a competent military figure. By this point in the war he was a heroin addict, rouged, dressed with incredible jewelry, whose main purpose seemed to be enjoying the collection of art treasures he was seizing from all over Europe. He insisted Rommel accompany him on his "hunts" through the museums of Rome, in which any item that caught Goering's eye was shipped back to his estate in Germany. (Some of the artwork, among the greatest in world history, has never been recovered from this looting.) Goering also held lavish parties every night. As the austere Rommel wrote his wife, these disgusted him. In Berlin, he knew the general population was near the starvation level, and faced bombs every night and day. Meanwhile, here was Goering with the top Nazis enjoying every luxury. After 3 days, Rommel wrote his wife: "I'm doing no good here- Only losing my temper. I'd better get back to the Afrika Korps."

He flew back the next day. He knew the military situation in North Africa was hopeless. He knew, too, that Hitler was a madman and Goering a criminal. How long could the Fatherland endure such leaders? Rommel was a patriot, and he determined that he would fight on as long as he could, with whatever he had. In the back of his mind, however, he began to think that Hitler and the whole blasted Nazi regime might have to be removed in order to have peace with the Allies. Victory was no longer an option.

 
Kasserine Pass Part One

Dwight Eisenhower was extremely worried about his American troops. None of the 4 divisions making up II Corps had had much training, nor had they ever been in serious combat since the French had quickly surrendered. On his inspection tours of the front, Ike found them complacent and undisciplined. The officers were casual. Sure, they were facing Rommel, but everyone knew that since El Alamein, the Germans were beaten. The war did not need to be taken too seriously. One unit had been in position 2 days without laying a minefield, a vital chore which the Germans accomplished within 2 hours. Foxholes and slit trenches were not dug, and junior officers failed to carry out orders. Instead of training their men or taking them on long conditioning hikes during slack periods, they let them go frolic in nearby villages.

Ike was also concerned because the II Corps Commander, Maj. Gen. Lloyd Fredenhall, was, in his words, "a weak sister." Fredenhall's HQ was far to the rear in a canyon inside a gulch at the end of a narrow twisting road. To make himself more secure in his hole inside a cave at the end of a tunnel, Fredenhall had 200 engineers working to blast out an underground command post. When Eisenhower asked an engineer if he had not first worked on front-line defenses, a young staff officer replied for him: "Oh, the divisions have their own engineers for that!" The supreme commander was inwardly furious. The time had come for him to lose that terrible temper and sack Fredenhall, but he didn't. The tact that had been his strength in welding the Alliance together was now his undoing as a commander. He was trying to lead in combat by hints and persuasion. Instead of bluntly asking Fredenhall, "What the hell's going on here?" he told him instead that "one of the things that gives me the most concern is the habit of some of our generals in staying too close to their command posts." Fredenhall did not take the hint and did not leave his private fort.

Fredenhall's disposition of his forces was unsound. He divided his 1st Armored Division into two combat commands, A and B. B went north to the Fondouk sector where General Anderson expected the German attack, and A stayed south. Meanwhile, the Desert Fox had been doing some thinking.

The Mareth Line held by Rommel had been built by the French to stop an Italian incursion from Libya. It was an immensely strong position. To outflank it required a turning movement of 150 miles. Rommel correctly concluded that Montgomery in his methodical way would take some time in preparing the customary superiority for an attack. Preferring not to sit down and wait for it, Rommel chose to attack- not the 8th Army, but the Allied 1st Army. He had divined the vunerable spot: the southern sector held by the American II Corps. Here, at the Kasserine Pass, Rommel would strike, in the first confrontation between American and Nazi troops in the war.

 
Kasserine Pass, Part 2

On February 14, 1943, at the head of about 100 tanks and supported by Stukas, Rommel fell on the Americans in Command B. He overran them quickly. Many panicked. Rommel drove on towards the Kasserine Pass. By February 21, he had pierced its hastily constructed defenses and driven a big bulge into the Allied line. With his forces still intact, he faced open country. He was in position to turn the whole Tunisian front.

Eisenhower did not panic.He got artillery started on a 735 mile march to the threatened sector, stripped 2 divisions of equipment to sent to Fredenhall and cannibalized others. Now it was Rommel who was vunerable. His long supply line ran through a narrow pass. Eisenhower urged Anderson and Fredenhall to strike Rommel's flanks in a counterstroke that would destroy him. They demurred. They insisted on remaining on the defensive, believing that Rommel would make one more attack. But he did not. He quickly saw the danger and began his retreat that night.

Rommel had won a tactical victory. He had lost only 9 tanks and a handful of men, while inflicting 5,000 casualties on the Americans- half of them in prisoners- ande destroying hundreds of tanks and other equipment. But there had been no strategic gain. Actually, by blooding the Americans, he had done Ike a great favor. After Kasserine they were tough, angry troops who now understood, as Sherman said, that war was "all hell." This transformation was so rapid that Rommel was to write later, "What is really amazing was the speed with which the Americans adapted themselves to modern warfare. They were assisted in this by their tremendous practical and material sense and by their lack of all understanding for tradition and useless theories."

Eisenhower also turned tough, firing Fredenhall and replacing him with Patton. In his first battle he had committed many mistakes. Despite his doubts, he had allowed Fredenhall to retain command; he had permitted a confused command situation to continue; and when he had the chance to trap the Desert Fox, he had allowed the timidity of his commanders to squelch his own offensive spirit. He would not make the same mistakes again.

Before ending this post, I want to make a comment about Rommel. As I relate these battles, its amazing to me that somebody (I don't remember who) actually argued earlier in this thread that he was overrated. Surely this is one of the greatest generals in all of history? He did not fight a single battle with the odds in his favor, yet his record of victory is incredible. He also comes off as an extremely noble guy who really cared about his troops and his country. A man in history worth our admiration, despite the evil empire that he fought for.

 
Kasserine Pass, Part 2

On February 14, 1943, at the head of about 100 tanks and supported by Stukas, Rommel fell on the Americans in Command B. He overran them quickly. Many panicked. Rommel drove on towards the Kasserine Pass. By February 21, he had pierced its hastily constructed defenses and driven a big bulge into the Allied line. With his forces still intact, he faced open country. He was in position to turn the whole Tunisian front.

Eisenhower did not panic.He got artillery started on a 735 mile march to the threatened sector, stripped 2 divisions of equipment to sent to Fredenhall and cannibalized others. Now it was Rommel who was vunerable. His long supply line ran through a narrow pass. Eisenhower urged Anderson and Fredenhall to strike Rommel's flanks in a counterstroke that would destroy him. They demurred. They insisted on remaining on the defensive, believing that Rommel would make one more attack. But he did not. He quickly saw the danger and began his retreat that night.

Rommel had won a tactical victory. He had lost only 9 tanks and a handful of men, while inflicting 5,000 casualties on the Americans- half of them in prisoners- ande destroying hundreds of tanks and other equipment. But there had been no strategic gain. Actually, by blooding the Americans, he had done Ike a great favor. After Kasserine they were tough, angry troops who now understood, as Sherman said, that war was "all hell." This transformation was so rapid that Rommel was to write later, "What is really amazing was the speed with which the Americans adapted themselves to modern warfare. They were assisted in this by their tremendous practical and material sense and by their lack of all understanding for tradition and useless theories."

Eisenhower also turned tough, firing Fredenhall and replacing him with Patton. In his first battle he had committed many mistakes. Despite his doubts, he had allowed Fredenhall to retain command; he had permitted a confused command situation to continue; and when he had the chance to trap the Desert Fox, he had allowed the timidity of his commanders to squelch his own offensive spirit. He would not make the same mistakes again.

Before ending this post, I want to make a comment about Rommel. As I relate these battles, its amazing to me that somebody (I don't remember who) actually argued earlier in this thread that he was overrated. Surely this is one of the greatest generals in all of history? He did not fight a single battle with the odds in his favor, yet his record of victory is incredible. He also comes off as an extremely noble guy who really cared about his troops and his country. A man in history worth our admiration, despite the evil empire that he fought for.
He was a great general. I have found that many times, it is the Brits who think he was overrated. Perhaps because they were often underequipped and poorly led when they faced him. But I agree with you. In the World's Greatest Draft, where I judged the Military Commanders, he was #11, ahead of all other WW2 generals.
 
He was a great general. I have found that many times, it is the Brits who think he was overrated. Perhaps because they were often underequipped and poorly led when they faced him. But I agree with you. In the World's Greatest Draft, where I judged the Military Commanders, he was #11, ahead of all other WW2 generals.
Sounds interesting.... link to thread?
 
He was a great general. I have found that many times, it is the Brits who think he was overrated. Perhaps because they were often underequipped and poorly led when they faced him. But I agree with you. In the World's Greatest Draft, where I judged the Military Commanders, he was #11, ahead of all other WW2 generals.
Sounds interesting.... link to thread?
Here you are:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...greatest++draft

 
Tim, have you read, An Army at Dawn, by Rick Atkinson? It won the History Pulitzer in 2003 back for the story of the US Army in North Africa in 1942-43.

 
DCThunder said:
Tim, have you read, An Army at Dawn, by Rick Atkinson? It won the History Pulitzer in 2003 back for the story of the US Army in North Africa in 1942-43.
No. Sounds interesting. I'll have to take a look, thanks.
 
SUBMARINE WAR IN THE PACIFIC—US OPERATIONS

Background

Prior to the outbreak of hostilities due to the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, the US was in compliance with the 1930 London Naval Treaty, which required that merchant marine ships needed to be warned and given time to evacuate their crews before being sunk. This was extremely dangerous for the submarine, particularly if the merchantmen were escorted. As a result, all the pre-war training was to have submarines serve as scouts and screens and remain deep to attack warships. They knew that aircraft could detect them even at depths of more than 100 feet.

As a result of the sneak attack on Pearl Harbor, and also viewing what was occurring in the Atlantic, the US renounced the 1930 Treaty, and commenced unrestricted submarine warfare. Submarine captains were not trained to do so; they had been trained to be cautious, and to make attacks at below periscope depth, using sonar. Furthermore, they had problems with torpedoes, many of which malfunctioned. As a result, the US had very little to show for its submarine activity in 1942. Their submarines were old and out of date, their captains were cautious, and the scope of the Pacific War required boats which could operate over vast ranges, and move swiftly.

The oldest of the submarines to see combat action in the Pacific was the S-Class; this post World War I vintage boat was certainly not designed for the type of war in which they were engaged against Japan. Originally employed as a fleet "scout" for operations in the Atlantic, these "Pigboats" were reluctantly pressed into service during the early days of the war against Japan due to the U.S. Navy's severe shortage of fleet boats. Old, obsolete, underpowered with limited range and inadequately armed, they were often assigned to the least important patrol areas, however S-class submarines accounted for sinking 14 Japanese ships. But they were slow, and could only go down to 200 ft.

Just prior to the start of the war in the Pacific, the United States Navy in 1940 was in the process of upgrading its' fleet submarines. An ambitious plan called for the construction of 73 Gato class boats. The Gatos had incorporated numerous improvements which increased its overall patrolling and combat capabilities. The modifications made to the diesel engines and batteries increased the Gato's patrol duration. They could go down to 300 ft. and were twice as fast. Later versions, called Tench and Balao, could go to 400 ft.  

As the war progressed, modifications to the tower and equipment were commonplace. Removing much of the plating on the periscope shears and near the cigarette decks reduced the boat's silhouette and decreased the time it took to submerge. Due to the many alterations at the different shipyards, no two boats looked alike at the wars' end. 

However, by the end of 1942, the new submarines were coming on stream, commanded by younger and more aggressive captains. Additionally, the breaking of the Japanese “Maru” code, as part of the US cryptanalysts breaking of the Japanese Naval code, gave Commander Submarines Pacific (Comsubpac—based in Hawaii) knowledge about Japanese merchant shipping. This was transmitted to US submarines under the code name Ultra. (Because of the extreme value of this information, Captain John Cromwell of USS Sculpin chose to go down with his submarine rather than run the risk of revealing the secret of US codebreaking, under torture to the Japanese—he was posthumously awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor).

By August of 1942, the first US submarine had surface search radar, which was enormously helpful in locating targets. In addition, the new Gato class boats were arriving on a regular basis to replace and reinforce those battle weary subs which had been bearing the brunt of the war so far. While armed with an established set of patrol and attack guidelines at the war's outset, boat commanders were finding that they were actually in a "learn as you go" situation. As a result new tactical procedures were being developed, often times much to the displeasure of their superiors. For once however, things began to look favorably for the US sub fleet. At least for a brief period. Torpedo failures were numerous and succeeded in handcuffing many skippers. BuOrd (Bureau of Ordnance) held steadfast to the opinion that human error was the the cause of the torpedo troubles, and not a design flaw. Compounding the sub fleet's problems, poor tactical positioning on the part of the top Navy brass continued with a seeming vengeance. The Pacific submarine forces were often split up, and the deployment of boats out of high contact areas to patrol zones that were considerably poorer in productivity occurred frequently. 

By early 1943, the US had begun limited use of a proven cooperative attack tactic known as "wolf-packing". An important part of Germany's U-boat success in the Atlantic, the US wolfpacks returned mixed results. Confidence in the ability of two or three fleet boats to execute a cooperative attack against any enemy vessel ran high, but the dedication of these subs to a single attack was considered by some to be a poor use of military assets. Japanese convoys operated with a far fewer number of ships then did those merchants transiting the Atlantic and getting thinned out by the extremely efficient U-Boat wolfpacks.

However, US fleet submarines went into battle armed with the MK XIV steam torpedoes which were equipped with the MK VI influence exploder. The design behind the exploder was to allow the torpedo to detonate within the magnetic field under the keel of the target boat, effectively breaking the ship's back. They didn't work, but it took the Navy and Dept. of Ordnance more than a year to find out. After the problem was solved, the resulting dramatic increase in tonnage scores removed any doubt as to the cause of the problem that bedeviled the submarine fleet during the first two years of WW II.  

 
Ozymandias said:
coyote5 said:
Ozymandias said:
He was a great general. I have found that many times, it is the Brits who think he was overrated. Perhaps because they were often underequipped and poorly led when they faced him. But I agree with you. In the World's Greatest Draft, where I judged the Military Commanders, he was #11, ahead of all other WW2 generals.
Sounds interesting.... link to thread?
Here you are:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...greatest++draft
Any idea where in that monstrosity I'd find the military comanders rankings? I scrolled through what seemed like 50 pages and only saw the overall list on post 1.
 
Ozymandias said:
coyote5 said:
Ozymandias said:
He was a great general. I have found that many times, it is the Brits who think he was overrated. Perhaps because they were often underequipped and poorly led when they faced him. But I agree with you. In the World's Greatest Draft, where I judged the Military Commanders, he was #11, ahead of all other WW2 generals.
Sounds interesting.... link to thread?
Here you are:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...greatest++draft
Any idea where in that monstrosity I'd find the military comanders rankings? I scrolled through what seemed like 50 pages and only saw the overall list on post 1.
It wasn't that hard, if you'd gone to the link I gave you.Understand that this wasn't a list of all time military leaders; it was a ranking of the military leaders who were drafted. Some, like Julius Caesar, were drafted in another category.

Military Judge-Ozymandias

1.Genghis Khan

2.Alexander The Great

3.Hannibal

4.Subotai

5.Khalid Ibn Al Walid

6.Wellington

7.Charles Martel

8.Napoleon

9.Nelson

10. Gustavus Adolphus

11. Rommel

12. Zhukov

13. Tokugawa

14. Saladin

15. George Marshall

16. Sun Tzu

17. Montgomery

18. Garibaldi

19. Cao Cao

20. John Paul Jones

 
Ozymandias said:
coyote5 said:
Ozymandias said:
He was a great general. I have found that many times, it is the Brits who think he was overrated. Perhaps because they were often underequipped and poorly led when they faced him. But I agree with you. In the World's Greatest Draft, where I judged the Military Commanders, he was #11, ahead of all other WW2 generals.
Sounds interesting.... link to thread?
Here you are:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...greatest++draft
Any idea where in that monstrosity I'd find the military comanders rankings? I scrolled through what seemed like 50 pages and only saw the overall list on post 1.
It wasn't that hard, if you'd gone to the link I gave you.Understand that this wasn't a list of all time military leaders; it was a ranking of the military leaders who were drafted. Some, like Julius Caesar, were drafted in another category.

Military Judge-Ozymandias

1.Genghis Khan

2.Alexander The Great

3.Hannibal

4.Subotai

5.Khalid Ibn Al Walid

6.Wellington

7.Charles Martel

8.Napoleon

9.Nelson

10. Gustavus Adolphus

11. Rommel

12. Zhukov

13. Tokugawa

14. Saladin

15. George Marshall

16. Sun Tzu

17. Montgomery

18. Garibaldi

19. Cao Cao

20. John Paul Jones
I saw that, I guess I was hoping for some discussion about why they were ranked where they were.
 
I did post my rationale for the rankings, but don't have the link. If you care enough, you'll just have to go through the 'monstrosity'. ;)

It would have been before the link I gave you. but how much, I don't know.

 
All submarines in WWII were diesel electric, meaning that electrical motors turned the propellers and that the electricity came from diesel engines driving generators while on the surface and by batteries while submerged. No US subs had snorkels (well maybe some did in late 1945) which enabled German U-boats to operate under diesel power underwater.

Under normal operating conditions, subs could stay submerged no longer than a max of 12 hours or so before they ran out of air and battery power. As a result, most subs operated on the surface most of the time, submerging during the day or if conducting a daylight attack on a ship. Most US attacks on Japanese shipping occurred at night and with the sub on the surface. They dive to evade counter-attack and try to sneak away. So essentially, submarines were torpedo boats that could submerge, not true submarines as are thought of today. That took nuclear power to achieve.

US fleet subs had 10 torpedo tubes, six in the bow and 4 astern. They had at least 1 5" deck gun and several .50 cal. machine guns for surface attacks. On the surface they could make around 20 kts, and submerged less than 8 kts. An other important aspect of the US sub war was having Midway as a refueling location. The subs would leave Pearl, head to Midway to top off fuel/food and then head out on patrol. This allowed them to patrol off the coast of Japan and down towards the Philippines. Without Midway, this would have been extremely difficult, as the Germans found out when there subs could only spend limited amounts of time off the US coast because of how far it was from the U-boat bases in France and Germany.

Finally, the torpedo problems that Ozy mentioned cannot be minimized. There are numerous examples of subs that were lost due to malfuctioning torpedos, including ones that circled back and blew up the sub that launched it.

US submariners suffered the highest mortality rate of any branch of service during WWII. I forget the exact numbers lost at sea, but the sailors of the Silent Service were a bunch of courageous and dedicated men.

 
I'd be terrified in any war situation, I'm quite sure. But for me personally, it would hard, in my imagination, to top the sheer horror of being in one of those submarines, submerged, while a destroyer is above you sending loud PINGS and depth charges. The problem is you can't see your opponent. All you can do is wait in the dim light, wondering if you're going to live through the next couple of minutes, or if you're going to drown with the seawater filling your lungs...

You'd have to be either a very brave man (or perhaps a little crazy) to choose submarine duty in World War II.

 
Ozy's analysis starts around pg 160 for anyone who's interested...
Yeah, I located the complete thing. But let's not rehash it, and hijack the thread:There are two military leaders in the first tier, and a good case could be made for either of them. They both used their military genius to establish an empire: Genghis Khan and Alexander the Great.1. GENGHIS KHANI previously mentioned that I had Genghis Khan at 1a and Alexander at 1b. Why?Well, Alexander was born with a silver sword in his mouth, and got a running start (His father was king). Genghis Khan started with nothing, an orphan abandoned by his clan. He gradually built up, subduing or allying himself with others, and gradually gaining the ascendancy. He unified the Mongols under his reign, and then he established an empire, conquered most of China, and spread westward until he had the largest contiguous empire in the history of the world. He was a believer in gaining good intelligence about and understanding the motives of his opponents, and he was willing to adapt as he learned new things. Genghis Khan was a brilliant battlefield tactician, knew how do use cavalry and infantry, and developed an army where merit and not family considerations were the means of advancement. He invaded and conquered the Western Xia dynasty of China. He then took on the Northern Jin dynasty, and conquered their capital (modern day Beijing). After his embassy to the Kharezmian Empire of Central Asia was rebuffed and humiliated, he invaded and laid them waste, destroying the capital of Samarkand. To my knowledge he never lost a battle, and his armies came to the gates of Europe, defeating the Hungarians and the Poles. A word must be said here about Mongolian cavalry. It was the finest in the world. Living a nomadic life on the steppes of central Asia, they had a symbiotic relationship with horses (on campaigns, they often opened an artery on the horses and drank the blood to supplement their diet). From childhood, they were trained in archery on horseback, and were incredibly accurate at full gallop. They quite often annihilated opposing armies, by swift movement and daring maneuvers.2. ALEXANDER THE GREATHe fought many battles, and was often vastly outnumbered. From his father he inherited a well trained army, but he took it to unimagined heights. His personal presence on the battlefield was of enormous importance, not only for his tactical genius, but because his presence made his troops feel invincible. (Napoleon once said that the moral to the material was as 4-1). In Alexander's day, it may have been greater than that. His military victories led to an immense empire, greater than any until his time. Brilliant in strategy, and brilliant in tactics; his troops were well trained and well led. He is said to have wept in India, because there were no more worlds to conquer. But the reality is, his troops were far from home, and they felt they had gone far enough. He faced the mighty Persian Empire, first at the battle of Granicus, then at Issus, and finally at Gaugamela. At these latter two battles, Alexander defeated Darius III of Persia, even though he was outnumbered in each case by about 2-1. Persia was the leading empire of the day. We've all seen the movies of the scythed chariots charging into the battle. After Issus and Gaugamela, they were never a factor in battle again. Alexander, knowing how horses would react, had his men form into a W formation when the chariots charged. No horse will charge into the head of a column bristling with spears, he will veer off to the side; once he got inside the W, the charioteer was killed. Alexander used the phalanx to great effect, and he never lost a battle.HERE IS THE SECOND TIER3. HANNIBALHe is the leading military figure in the second tier. He fought battle after battle in Italy, defeating the Romans every time. However, his battle at Cannae may well be the greatest victory in history. He was outnumbered by the Romans almost 2-1 (and the Romans were no mean opponents), and by judicious use of picking the ground, and then using an outward crescent which slowly (and deliberately) retreated in formation, he drew the Romans into a double envelopment where he came close to annihilating them. As distinct from the Mongols and Alexander, who had some superiority in arms or formation compared to their opponents, this was between armies which were similar in arms and formation. Nothing but sheer battlefield brilliance. The Romans studied his tactics, and were eventually able to defeat him. If he had received logistical support from Carthage, there might have been no Roman Empire. But he was unable to take Rome. His logistical feat of bringing his army from Spain across the Alps is a major accomplishment. Had he not lost the battle of Zama, he could well have been #1 overall, and there might have been 500 years of the Carthaginian Empire.4. SUBUTAIHe is in my second tier, and is second in that group (fourth overall). He was Genghis Khan's most capable general, and became the essentially the Chief Operating Officer when Genghis Khan became the CEO. He was picked by Genghis Khan, even though he had no family connections, and it demonstrated to the Mongols that Genghis was only concerned with merit. Does this take away from Genghis Khan's achievements? Not in my book. Being able to spot promising talent, and promote them to positions of importance in his army, is another mark of Genghis Khan's talent as an overall commander. Subutai was innovative in that he not only used siege artillery (stones) to demolish the walls of a city, but even used them on the battlefield. Of course, the real secret weapon of the Mongols was their cavalry, but Subutai demonstrated himself to be a master of all. He was the primary military strategist and general of Genghis Khan, and then, after his death, for Ögedei Khan. He directed more than 20 campaigns during which he conquered or overran more territory than any other commander in history. He gained victory by means of imaginative and sophisticated strategies and routinely coordinated movements of armies that were more than 500 km away from each other. He is most remembered for devising the battle plan that destroyed the armies of Hungary and Poland within two days of each other, by forces almost a thousand miles apart. Subutai is regarded in history as one of Genghis Khan's and the Mongol Empire's most prominent generals in terms of ability and tactics helping with the military campaigns in Asia and Eastern Europe. 5.KHALID IBN AL WAHLIDThird in the tier, he was a contemporary of Mohammed, who knew the prophet. He was nicknamed the Sword of Allah, and was victorious in over 100 battles; apparently, he was never defeated. Islam spread rapidly from Arabia to the Persian and Byzantine empires...and Khalid is the man who did it . Khalid conquered the Persian Empire, defeating them in battle after battle. At the battle of Walaja, he successfully brought about a double envelopment, as Hannibal had done at Cannae. He then set out against the Byzantine Empire, taking Syria and Damascus. He finally sealed the fate of the Byzantine Empire by the battle of Yarmouk, where estimates are that he was outnumbered 2-1; one of the most decisive battles in world history. He captured Jerusalem, and extended Islam's control into Turkey and Armenia. Master of swift movement and maneuver, he kept his enemies continually off balance, sometimes appearing much faster than anyone expected and before they had time to prepare. I am grateful to his drafter, thatguy; I was aware of Khalid, but did not rate him as highly until I researched his accomplishments.6.WELLINGTONAt one time, Napoleon controlled all of western Europe, except for a small part of Portugal. Wellington beat Marshal Massena, Napoleon's greatest lieutenant, but after Massena was reinforced, Wellington retreated to Portugal. Massena took one look at the defensive position that Wellington had built in the lines of Torres Vedras, and declined to attack it. Two months later, Massena went back to France. In all his campaigns in India and Europe, General Wellington never lost a battle. Had a masterful understanding of strategy and tactics. Was a master of defense, positioning, maneuver, knew when to attack and when to defend, and he knew what he could accomplish and what not. To counter Napoleon's massed cavalry attacks, he trained the British square; to counter the effect of artillery, he used the reverse side of hills. This is one of the greatest things about him; he had an uncanny ability to estimate chances, and to counter what the enemy could do. He defeated Marshal Junot, Marshal Marmont, Marshal Soult, Marshal Jourdan, and Massena, all Napoleon's marshals, who had learned from him. He chose the ground at Waterloo, he was all over the battlefield directing operations, and he beat the Emperor himself. In terms of his opponents, he played in the big leagues, and went undefeated.NOT PICKED: SCIPIO AFRICANUS, Rome's greatest general.7.CHARLES MARTELThe General who laid the basis for the Holy Roman Empire, that his grandson, Charlemagne, established. He was brilliant in strategy and tactics, realized that he needed a standing well trained army, and trained them to withstand Moorish use of heavy cavalry by adopting the phalanx. That was strategy of the highest order. His heavy infantry would carry almost 70 lbs of armor. He extended Frankish control over the Germanic tribes. His victory over the expanding Islamic conquest at Tours, may well have saved France, Germany, the Low countries and even England from the Moors. He often faced superior forces, and defeated them by tactics, training and discipline. He used surprise and swift movement to hit the enemy where they did not expect it. When he realized the advantage of heavy cavalry, he developed that arm so quickly the Muslims were astonished.8. NAPOLEONHe was a brilliant battlefield general, master of maneuver and swift movement. Built the nascent French Republic into the leading power of Europe by defeating all the nearby continental powers. Realized early on the advantage of artillery (that was his background), and was bold and ruthless. But for the strategic disaster of invading Russia, where he invaded with almost half a million men, and only about 40,000 made it back, he would have ranked higher on the list. Perhaps he missed an opportunity at Waterloo, by delaying his attack, against the somewhat outnumbered Wellington. However, it had rained the night before, and the ground was soggy and muddy. But his only chance in his comeback lay in the option to defeat Wellington, before Blucher and the Prussians could arrive at the battlefield. In the event, Wellington was able to repulse attack after attack throughout the day, until even Napoleon's committing his crack troops, the Imperial Guard, was not enough to break Wellington's line. Napoleon encircled the Austrians brilliantly at Ulm and defeated the Austrian-Russian coalition at Austerlitz. It was his finest battle. HERE WE GO WITH THE THIRD TIERPICKED AS WILD CARD: JULIUS CAESAR, Conqueror of Gaul and victor in Battle of Alesia. PICKED AS LEADER: CYRUS THE GREAT, Founder of the Persian Empire through conquest. That ends the second tier. It also concludes the insertion of those who would have occupied that spot.9. NELSONBritain's greatest military hero. He vanquished French naval power, first at the battle of the Nile, where the forces were about equal (each had 13 ships of the line—equivalent to battleships) and Nelson destroyed or captured all but two of the French, for the loss of a frigate (equivalent to a cruiser). Then he met the combined French and Spanish fleets off Cape Trafalgar, where he was slightly outnumbered. France/Spain had 33 ships of the line, Nelson had 27. The Franco Spanish fleet lost 22 ships to the loss of none for the British. This battle established the British Navy as the foremost naval power for the next century, led to Pax Britannica, and freedom of the seas. Nelson died in the battle. He was innovative in tactics, trusting to the excellence of his captains and the training that his men had received. By the way, he referred to his captains as “the Band of Brothers”, from Shakespeare's play. He was loved by his men, in contrast to the somewhat austere Duke of Wellington.10.GUSTAVUS ADOLPHUSGustavus Adolphus was known as an brilliant military commander. His innovative tactical integration of infantry, cavalry, artillery and logistics earned him the title of the "Father of Combined Arms Warfare". Future commanders who studied and admired Gustavus Adolphus include Napoleon and von Clausewitz. His advancements in military science made Sweden the dominant Baltic power for the next one hundred years. At the battle of Breitenfield he beat the previously undefeated Count Tilly, who had been laying waste to Saxony, and reversed almost ten years of continuous defeat at the hand of the Catholics, by inflicting a 60% casualty rate on them. In the follow up Battle of Rain, he defeated Tilly again, by innovative maneuvering combined with a strong frontal assault. Tilly was mortally wounded. Gustavus captured Munich and was victorious again at the battle of Letzen, although he died in the battle. But Sweden's supremacy was assured by the training and tactics he taught them.11. ROMMELThe most brilliant general to emerge from WW2. As a division commander, his panzer division was known as the “ghost division” because of its ability to strike quickly where it was not expected. When he was placed in charge of the Afrika Corps his aggressive and bold behavior (exceeding his orders) won him large chunks of territory, defeated the British in the Battle of Gazala, captured Tobruk, and chased the British to the gates of Egypt. During all of these battles, he usually had an inferiority of artillery and tanks, but used them so skillfully that he made the British retreat. He also treated prisoners generously, and turned a blind eye to orders to execute Jews. Some of his strength was also his weakness; a tendency to risk too much, and to refuse to listen to contrary opinions, even to ignore orders. Sometimes that produced great gains, but overextended his troops.12. GEORGI ZHUKOVA career Soviet Army officer, he survived the Stalin purges, and was sacked by Stalin as the Army Chief of Staff after the Nazi invasion when he suggested withdrawing from Kiev. Stalin disregarded his advice and this led to a big Russian defeat. However, he was recalled by Stalin to direct the defense of Moscow, and arranged for the transfer of huge numbers of troops from the Far East, an immense logistical feat. He then directed the defense of Stalingrad, and was instrumental in the Battle of Kursk, which was the greatest defeat suffered by the Germans (the biggest tank battle in history, and a masterpiece of planning). He directed the Soviet forces that fought their way to Berlin. The best military commander in the greatest theater of land operations in World War 2, directing millions of men. However, he was careless about his men, and his armies sustained over 5 million casualties. Revisionist historians have discounted his value.13.TOKUGAWAHe was a good military leader, who combined bravery in battle with Machiavellian cunning. He made and broke alliances in his quest for power. Early on, he was defeated at the battle of Mikatagahara, escaping with only 5 followers. However, he quickly raised another army, and allied with another leader, was victorious at the battle of Nagashino. In the Komaki campaign, he fought against the eventual unifier of Japan, Hideyoshi. They agreed on a truce, and he allied himself with Hideyoshi, becoming the second most powerful man in Japan. After Hideyoshi's death, he became the foremost regent, and finally, after the battle of Sekigahara, (the most important battle in Japanese history), he became the Shogun of Japan. His family went on to rule Japan for more than 200 years.14.SALADINHe led the Islamic opposition to the Third Crusade, and recaptured Jerusalem from the Crusaders. Was involved in a number of shifting allegiances and jockeying for power amongst the Caliphates of Egypt and Mesopotamia. He defeated a large force of Crusaders at Damietta, survived several assassination attempts, and was defeated at Tell Jezer, managing to escape to Egypt. He even went to war against the Assassins, a group who got high on hashish (origin of the word assassin), but was unable to defeat them. Later on, at the battle of Hattin, he decisively defeated the Crusaders, in a turning point for the Crusades. He was respected as a chivalrous knight, and he and Richard the Lionheart of England exchanged letters and gifts. THE FOURTH TIER15.GEORGE MARSHALLAs Chief of Staff, Marshall organized the largest military expansion in U.S. history, inheriting an outmoded, poorly-equipped army of 189,000 men and, partly drawing from his experience teaching and developing techniques of modern warfare as an instructor at the Army War College, coordinated the large-scale expansion and modernization of the U. S. Army. Though he had never actually led troops in combat, Marshall was a skilled organizer with a talent for inspiring other officers. He was originally slated to be the overall commander in Europe, but Roosevelt felt he could not do without him. So Marshal selected Eisenhower, who was a brilliant pick, given the military and political intricacies of the position. Many of the American generals that were given top commands during the war were either picked or recommended by Marshall. His lack of battlefield experience is his only negative. 16. SUN TZUHe is the author of the most celebrated modern treatise on war (the celebration is modern, the document is ancient). In the latter half of the 20th century, his “The Art of War”, made him superior to von Clausewitz, as the most respected theorist. His influence on ancient generals, however, is improbable or impossible. Genghis Khan could have been influenced by him, but it is unlikely, because it is not even a certainty that Genghis Khan was literate. Certainly, Alexander, Khalid, Hannibal, Scipio, Caesar, and Wellington were not influenced by him. Napoleon, however, did pay him homage. But beyond that, nothing is really known about his battlefield exploits; his very existence is questioned. He could have been a great general; he might equally have been a keen observer and a brilliant clerk.17. MONTGOMERYMontgomery benefited from being in the right place at the right time. During the early stages of WW2, Britain suffered defeat after defeat. France, Norway, Crete, North Africa were just disasters and retreats. Defeated generals do not last long. With the entry of the US into the war in December 1941, the long build up of men and material began. By October 1942, the British had a substantial advantage over the Germans in El Alamein, in tanks and guns and personnel. Montgomery had replaced the previous commander and he won that battle. Churchill said: “Before Alamein we never won a battle; after Alamein, we never lost one.” Montgomery went on to Europe and fought under Eisenhower. Slow and methodical, a careful planner, he was steady rather than brilliant. He was, however, responsible for the Market Garden debacle, known as “A Bridge Too Far”.18. GARIBALDIAn adventurer more than a great military leader, Garibaldi's life was the stuff of legend. He fought for the independence of Rio Grande do Sul vs. Brazil, then for Uruguay vs Argentina. He came back to fight for Italian independence, but was forced to flee after the battle of Custoza. He was captain of various ships, lived in England and visited the USA. In May 1860, he set out to liberate southern Italy from the repressive regime of King Francis II. On 11 May, he landed with his ‘Thousand Redshirts’ at Marsala, Sicily, and destroyed the Neapolitan army in several battles. Garibaldi crossed the Straits of Messina on 22 August and advanced up the peninsula, being greeted enthusiastically by the people along the way. He fought for Italy against the French and Austrians, fought for the French against the Prussians, and is revered as the hero of Italian independence. He was inspirational rather than tactically brilliant. Abraham Lincoln briefly toyed with the idea of offering him a command, when he seemed to be unable to find a general; but (in spite of some stories to that effect) he never did offer him command of all the Union forces.19. CAO CAOCao Cao was a general in the time of the Three Kingdoms, trio of warring Chinese states that followed the demise of the Han dynasty. He was student of Sun Tzu's Art of War, achieved a remarkable victory in Guandu, by the careful choice of an impregnable position. He first became Duke of Wau, and eventually the title of King. However, his efforts to extend his kingdom southward, although initially successful, met with defeat at the battle of Red Cliffs, and he was unable to fulfill his goal of uniting all China. Some of the accounts of the time portray him as crafty and unscrupulous, others as a great military leader. FIFTH TIER20. JOHN PAUL JONESI love this guy. How can you not love someone who invaded Britain during the American War of Independence? He was fearless and adventurous, but not always wise, and he failed to control his men. His most famous victory was his capture of the Serapis, when the British captain struck his colors. Recognize that Britain had the best navy in the world, and the best trained crews. Perhaps now is the time for the drafter to say: “I have not yet begun to draft!” But I love John Paul Jones! My response to a comment: Well, I've already listed Scipio Africanus as a missed opportunity. I would have had him in the second tier. Caesar and Cyrus the Great went in another category. Here are some who might have made the top 15: (in no particular order) Themistocles, Philip of Macedon, Von Moltke, Belisarius, Robert E. Lee, Ulysses S. Grant, Duke of Marlborough, Douglas MacArthur, Tamerlane, Admiral Togo, Admiral Nimitz, Patton, to name a few.I think I would have gone for Von Moltke, Belisarius and U.S. Grant before some of those picked. Why Grant instead of Lee? Because he was the first Union General who grasped the strategic truth which Lincoln instinctively knew.
 
Introduction to the Warsaw Ghetto Rebellion

I am now going to be spending a good deal of time and detail here devoted to a narrative of the Warsaw Ghetto Rebellion. In order to relate this story properly, I need to touch on the history of the Jews in Poland, the Warsaw Ghetto, the Holocaust, etc.

Up to this point in the narrative I have only briefly touched upon these issues, for a few reasons: First, because simply put, the Holocaust is not an easy subject to write about. Second, because this thread is really more about battles, and I didn't think readers really wanted to wade through much of this other stuff, which is pretty distasteful. However, we have reached the point in the timeline where it is necessary to do so: the Rebellion began in January of 1943, and ended in May of the same year.

Militarily speaking, the Warsaw Ghetto Rebellion has very little significance. It cannot even be said that it has any real significance on the Holocaust itself- it did not stop the gas chambers, or even put a considerable dent in their numbers. Yet, I would argue that it is possible that 1,000 years from now, when so many of the events related in this narrative are long forgotten, this is one of those that may be remembered. It represents, IMO, a watershed moment in humanity's quest for human dignity and freedom, and revolt against tyranny. I realize that this sounds like hyperbole, but I believe it.

This story is of course very personal to me, as a Jew who has many family members who died at the hands of the Nazis. That is why I will be telling it all myself. In the past here I have related much history taken directly from other sources, with a little commentary of my own thrown in, and for the most part I will continue to do so in the future, as well. I don't nearly consider myself a good enough writer, or enough of an amateur historian, to be able to relate most of the events of the war with the accuracy and skill necessary. But this story is different- I KNOW this story. How well I relate it is another matter, for you guys to judge.

I've been criticized here recently for providing a little too much detail. If you're one of those who doesn't enjoy detail, then this particular story is not for you, and you may want to skip over the next several postings. At this moment I have no idea how long this is going to take- I intend to take my time. As for the rest- I can't say I hope you enjoy this story. You probably won't, because it's not the sort of thing one enjoys reading, or relating. But I trust it will be worth it.

 
JAPANESE SUBMARINE OPERATIONS

Imperial Japanese Navy submarines formed by far the most varied fleet of submarines of World War II, including manned torpedoes (Kaiten), midget submarines (Ko-hyoteki, Kairyu), medium-range submarines, purpose-built supply submarines (many for use by the Imperial Japanese Army), fleet submarines (many of which carried an aircraft), submarines with the highest submerged speeds of the conflict (Sentaka I-200), and submarines able to carry multiple bombers (WWII's largest submarine, the Sentoku I-400). They were also equipped with the most advanced and deadly torpedo of the conflict, the oxygen-fuelled Type 95, sometimes referred to as the Long Lance torpedo.

A plane from one such fleet submarine, I-25, conducted, which remains, the only aerial bombing attack on the continental United States, when Warrant Flying Officer Nobuo Fujita attempted to start massive forest fires in the Pacific Northwest outside the town of Brookings, Oregon on September 9th, 1942. In February 1942 the submarine I-17 fired a number of artillery shells from its deck gun at the Elwood Oil Fields near Santa Barbara, California. None of the shells caused any damage.

Overall, despite their technical innovation, Japanese submarines were built in small numbers and had less effect on the war than those of the other major navies. The IJN pursued the course of fleet vs fleet warfare, and consequently were often used in offensive roles against warships, which were fast, maneuverable and well-defended compared to merchant ships. In 1942, a Japanese submarine sank one fleet carrier (USS Wasp), damaged one battleship, and damaged one destroyer (which sank later) from one torpedo salvo; and during the Battle of Midway were able to administer the coup de grace to another fleet carrier (the Yorktown).

But as fuel oil diminished and air supremacy was lost, Imperial submarines were no longer able to accomplish such tasks. Once the US was able to ramp up construction of destroyers and destroyer escorts, as well as bringing over highly effective anti-submarine techniques learned from the British from experiences in the Battle of the Atlantic, they would take a significant toll on Japanese submarines, which tended to be slower and could not dive as deep as their German counterparts. The Imperial Navy's doctrine of fleet warfare resulted in their submarines seldom posing a threat to allied merchant convoys and strategic shipping lanes to the degree that German U-boats did; which were pursuing the strategy of commerce raiding.

By the end of the war, Japanese submarines were instead often used to transport supplies to island garrisons. During the war, Japan managed to sink about 1 million tons of merchant shipping (184 ships), compared to 1.5 million tons for Great Britain (493 ships), 5.2 million tons for the U.S. (1314 ships),[1] and 14.3 million tons for Germany (2,840 ships).

Early models were not very maneuverable under water, could not dive very deep, and lacked radar. (Later in the war units that were fitted with radar were in some instances sunk due to the ability of US radar sets to detect their emissions. For example, USS Batfish sank three such equipped submarines in the span of four days).

 
JAPANESE SUBMARINE OPERATIONS

Imperial Japanese Navy submarines formed by far the most varied fleet of submarines of World War II, including manned torpedoes (Kaiten), midget submarines (Ko-hyoteki, Kairyu), medium-range submarines, purpose-built supply submarines (many for use by the Imperial Japanese Army), fleet submarines (many of which carried an aircraft), submarines with the highest submerged speeds of the conflict (Sentaka I-200), and submarines able to carry multiple bombers (WWII's largest submarine, the Sentoku I-400). They were also equipped with the most advanced and deadly torpedo of the conflict, the oxygen-fuelled Type 95, sometimes referred to as the Long Lance torpedo.

A plane from one such fleet submarine, I-25, conducted, which remains, the only aerial bombing attack on the continental United States, when Warrant Flying Officer Nobuo Fujita attempted to start massive forest fires in the Pacific Northwest outside the town of Brookings, Oregon on September 9th, 1942. In February 1942 the submarine I-17 fired a number of artillery shells from its deck gun at the Elwood Oil Fields near Santa Barbara, California. None of the shells caused any damage.

Overall, despite their technical innovation, Japanese submarines were built in small numbers and had less effect on the war than those of the other major navies. The IJN pursued the course of fleet vs fleet warfare, and consequently were often used in offensive roles against warships, which were fast, maneuverable and well-defended compared to merchant ships. In 1942, a Japanese submarine sank one fleet carrier (USS Wasp), damaged one battleship, and damaged one destroyer (which sank later) from one torpedo salvo; and during the Battle of Midway were able to administer the coup de grace to another fleet carrier (the Yorktown).

But as fuel oil diminished and air supremacy was lost, Imperial submarines were no longer able to accomplish such tasks. Once the US was able to ramp up construction of destroyers and destroyer escorts, as well as bringing over highly effective anti-submarine techniques learned from the British from experiences in the Battle of the Atlantic, they would take a significant toll on Japanese submarines, which tended to be slower and could not dive as deep as their German counterparts. The Imperial Navy's doctrine of fleet warfare resulted in their submarines seldom posing a threat to allied merchant convoys and strategic shipping lanes to the degree that German U-boats did; which were pursuing the strategy of commerce raiding.

By the end of the war, Japanese submarines were instead often used to transport supplies to island garrisons. During the war, Japan managed to sink about 1 million tons of merchant shipping (184 ships), compared to 1.5 million tons for Great Britain (493 ships), 5.2 million tons for the U.S. (1314 ships),[1] and 14.3 million tons for Germany (2,840 ships).

Early models were not very maneuverable under water, could not dive very deep, and lacked radar. (Later in the war units that were fitted with radar were in some instances sunk due to the ability of US radar sets to detect their emissions. For example, USS Batfish sank three such equipped submarines in the span of four days).
There was one other notable warship that the Japanese subs sank, at 0014 on 30 July 1945. This was the USS Indianapolis, and we've all heard the Robert Shaw monologue from Jaws about it.
 
JAPANESE SUBMARINE OPERATIONS

Imperial Japanese Navy submarines formed by far the most varied fleet of submarines of World War II, including manned torpedoes (Kaiten), midget submarines (Ko-hyoteki, Kairyu), medium-range submarines, purpose-built supply submarines (many for use by the Imperial Japanese Army), fleet submarines (many of which carried an aircraft), submarines with the highest submerged speeds of the conflict (Sentaka I-200), and submarines able to carry multiple bombers (WWII's largest submarine, the Sentoku I-400). They were also equipped with the most advanced and deadly torpedo of the conflict, the oxygen-fuelled Type 95, sometimes referred to as the Long Lance torpedo.

A plane from one such fleet submarine, I-25, conducted, which remains, the only aerial bombing attack on the continental United States, when Warrant Flying Officer Nobuo Fujita attempted to start massive forest fires in the Pacific Northwest outside the town of Brookings, Oregon on September 9th, 1942. In February 1942 the submarine I-17 fired a number of artillery shells from its deck gun at the Elwood Oil Fields near Santa Barbara, California. None of the shells caused any damage.

Overall, despite their technical innovation, Japanese submarines were built in small numbers and had less effect on the war than those of the other major navies. The IJN pursued the course of fleet vs fleet warfare, and consequently were often used in offensive roles against warships, which were fast, maneuverable and well-defended compared to merchant ships. In 1942, a Japanese submarine sank one fleet carrier (USS Wasp), damaged one battleship, and damaged one destroyer (which sank later) from one torpedo salvo; and during the Battle of Midway were able to administer the coup de grace to another fleet carrier (the Yorktown).

But as fuel oil diminished and air supremacy was lost, Imperial submarines were no longer able to accomplish such tasks. Once the US was able to ramp up construction of destroyers and destroyer escorts, as well as bringing over highly effective anti-submarine techniques learned from the British from experiences in the Battle of the Atlantic, they would take a significant toll on Japanese submarines, which tended to be slower and could not dive as deep as their German counterparts. The Imperial Navy's doctrine of fleet warfare resulted in their submarines seldom posing a threat to allied merchant convoys and strategic shipping lanes to the degree that German U-boats did; which were pursuing the strategy of commerce raiding.

By the end of the war, Japanese submarines were instead often used to transport supplies to island garrisons. During the war, Japan managed to sink about 1 million tons of merchant shipping (184 ships), compared to 1.5 million tons for Great Britain (493 ships), 5.2 million tons for the U.S. (1314 ships),[1] and 14.3 million tons for Germany (2,840 ships).

Early models were not very maneuverable under water, could not dive very deep, and lacked radar. (Later in the war units that were fitted with radar were in some instances sunk due to the ability of US radar sets to detect their emissions. For example, USS Batfish sank three such equipped submarines in the span of four days).
There was one other notable warship that the Japanese subs sank, at 0014 on 30 July 1945. This was the USS Indianapolis, and we've all heard the Robert Shaw monologue from Jaws about it.
Indeed, and I was remiss not to have mentioned it. The cruiser was torpedoed and sank within 12 minutes, leaving hundreds of men in the water, many if not most, who perished by shark attacks. The captain was court-martialed and found guilty of dereliction of duty, in a case of scapegoating by the Navy. In July of 2001 the Navy Department announced that Captain McVay's record had been amended to exonerate him for the loss of the Indianapolis and the lives of those who perished as a result of her sinking.
 
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The Warsaw Ghetto Rebellion Part 1

In September of 1939, when the Germans invaded Poland, there were 3 and a half million Jews living in that country, roughly representing 1/3 of the entire population. Outside of western Russia, this was the largest concentration of Jews then living on Earth. (For comparison purposes, New York City had just over a million Jews. All of Palestine had about 400,000. Perhaps 5 million Jews lived in all of Russia, and the rest of Europe had about 5 million Jews combined.)

Who were these Jews? They were what we now regard as Ashkenazi Jews (as separate from Sephardic Jews who mostly came from Spain.) They had settled in central Europe around 700 AD after being chased out of the Middle East by Christians and Muslims. In Bohemia and Galicia they formed their language, called Yiddish, which was a mixture of German, central European dialects, and Hebrew. Of course, Hebrew was the language of the Bible and the Laws, which they carried with them. Because of their strange practices and refusal to accept Christianity, they were segregated and heavily restricted from agriculture and most trades. As a result, they often fell into the role of moneylenders and middlemen, which increased their being despised. In the Dark Ages, the Jews were often accused of witchcraft and punished accordingly.

The Crusades began an intense period of suffering for the Jews of central Europe, which was to last several hundred years, in which murder and forced ghettoes were typical. At the time of the Spanish Inquisition, the Bohemians copied Isabella's example by simply expelling all Jews from their regions. This was at the same time the Kingdom of Poland was beginning. Poland was a desolate country, yet ruled by a group of enlightened kings who saw the need to import a middle class that would serve as a connection between the nobility (5% of the population) and the destitute, illiterate peasants (95% of the population- a number that would continue well into the 20th century.) The Jews were welcomed in and promised there would be no mistreatment. At this time the Kingdom of Poland included the Ukraine, so the Jews settled in both places.

Finally in a free environment for the first time in over 1,000 years, the Jews prospered. Many became incredibly wealthy. Their numbers multiplied, and the 1500s were a great time of Jewish culture, literature, and civilization. At this time also there were very few divisions within the Jewish community. The Jews of that day were uniformally what we would now consider to be Orthodox. It was a heavily male oriented society- only men were allowed to read the Torah (the Five Books of Moses, considered the most holy works of Judiasm) and the Talmud (a series of laws written by Rabbis somewhat contemporaneous with Jesus Christ, heavily studied by religious Jews to this day.) Jews served as managers for the large estates owned by the nobility, who were often away partying in Paris and Venice. Jews served as bankers and gold merchants. Their population increased in all of the major cities, especially Warsaw.

But this time of peace for the Jews did not last long.

 
The Warsaw Ghetto Rebellion Part 1

In September of 1939, when the Germans invaded Poland, there were 3 and a half million Jews living in that country, roughly representing 1/3 of the entire population. Outside of western Russia, this was the largest concentration of Jews then living on Earth. (For comparison purposes, New York City had just over a million Jews. All of Palestine had about 400,000. Perhaps 5 million Jews lived in all of Russia, and the rest of Europe had about 5 million Jews combined.)

Who were these Jews? They were what we now regard as Ashkenazi Jews (as separate from Sephardic Jews who mostly came from Spain.) They had settled in central Europe around 700 AD after being chased out of the Middle East by Christians and Muslims. In Bohemia and Galicia they formed their language, called Yiddish, which was a mixture of German, central European dialects, and Hebrew. Of course, Hebrew was the language of the Bible and the Laws, which they carried with them. Because of their strange practices and refusal to accept Christianity, they were segregated and heavily restricted from agriculture and most trades. As a result, they often fell into the role of moneylenders and middlemen, which increased their being despised. In the Dark Ages, the Jews were often accused of witchcraft and punished accordingly.

The Crusades began an intense period of suffering for the Jews of central Europe, which was to last several hundred years, in which murder and forced ghettoes were typical. At the time of the Spanish Inquisition, the Bohemians copied Isabella's example by simply expelling all Jews from their regions. This was at the same time the Kingdom of Poland was beginning. Poland was a desolate country, yet ruled by a group of enlightened kings who saw the need to import a middle class that would serve as a connection between the nobility (5% of the population) and the destitute, illiterate peasants (95% of the population- a number that would continue well into the 20th century.) The Jews were welcomed in and promised there would be no mistreatment. At this time the Kingdom of Poland included the Ukraine, so the Jews settled in both places.

Finally in a free environment for the first time in over 1,000 years, the Jews prospered. Many became incredibly wealthy. Their numbers multiplied, and the 1500s were a great time of Jewish culture, literature, and civilization. At this time also there were very few divisions within the Jewish community. The Jews of that day were uniformally what we would now consider to be Orthodox. It was a heavily male oriented society- only men were allowed to read the Torah (the Five Books of Moses, considered the most holy works of Judiasm) and the Talmud (a series of laws written by Rabbis somewhat contemporaneous with Jesus Christ, heavily studied by religious Jews to this day.) Jews served as managers for the large estates owned by the nobility, who were often away partying in Paris and Venice. Jews served as bankers and gold merchants. Their population increased in all of the major cities, especially Warsaw.

But this time of peace for the Jews did not last long.
I believe that this is a little simplistic. While I'm certainly not a scholar of Jewish history in Eastern Europe, I do know that Poland as a country/kingdom has a long and tragic history and has existed as an independent country for only short periods of time, usually under Catholic or Christian kings. Catherine the Great established the Pale of Settlement in western Russia/Poland/Lithuania etc for the Jews who were expelled from Moscow and St. Petersburg and other parts of Poland went back and forth between Russia, Prussia and later Germany following German unification in the mid 19th century.According to the wWiki on the Pale of Settlement, "life there was hard and striken by poverty." It hardly seems like the land of milk and honey you make it out to be. This is Fiddler on the Roof country and where so many Jews left to come to America.

Again, I know where you are going with this, and that's your privilege, but as I said, you are being a little simplistic.

 
I believe that this is a little simplistic. While I'm certainly not a scholar of Jewish history in Eastern Europe, I do know that Poland as a country/kingdom has a long and tragic history and has existed as an independent country for only short periods of time, usually under Catholic or Christian kings. Catherine the Great established the Pale of Settlement in western Russia/Poland/Lithuania etc for the Jews who were expelled from Moscow and St. Petersburg and other parts of Poland went back and forth between Russia, Prussia and later Germany following German unification in the mid 19th century.According to the wWiki on the Pale of Settlement, "life there was hard and striken by poverty." It hardly seems like the land of milk and honey you make it out to be. This is Fiddler on the Roof country and where so many Jews left to come to America.Again, I know where you are going with this, and that's your privilege, but as I said, you are being a little simplistic.
It's not simplistic DC, you're just getting a little ahead of me here. The poverty and chaotic history of Poland and the Pale are coming, and fairly quickly. In the first post, I just wanted to give an explanation of why the Jews settled there in the first place. During the first century or so (from around 1520-1650) there really was very little poverty among Jews, nor much mistreatment at all. In 1656, which I'm about to discuss, it all changed for the incredibly worse, and never really got any better. Bear with me.
 
I believe that this is a little simplistic. While I'm certainly not a scholar of Jewish history in Eastern Europe, I do know that Poland as a country/kingdom has a long and tragic history and has existed as an independent country for only short periods of time, usually under Catholic or Christian kings. Catherine the Great established the Pale of Settlement in western Russia/Poland/Lithuania etc for the Jews who were expelled from Moscow and St. Petersburg and other parts of Poland went back and forth between Russia, Prussia and later Germany following German unification in the mid 19th century.According to the wWiki on the Pale of Settlement, "life there was hard and striken by poverty." It hardly seems like the land of milk and honey you make it out to be. This is Fiddler on the Roof country and where so many Jews left to come to America.Again, I know where you are going with this, and that's your privilege, but as I said, you are being a little simplistic.
It's not simplistic DC, you're just getting a little ahead of me here. The poverty and chaotic history of Poland and the Pale are coming, and fairly quickly. In the first post, I just wanted to give an explanation of why the Jews settled there in the first place. During the first century or so (from around 1520-1650) there really was very little poverty among Jews, nor much mistreatment at all. In 1656, which I'm about to discuss, it all changed for the incredibly worse, and never really got any better. Bear with me.
OK. Sorry I jumped the gun on you.
 
DCThunder said:
Tim, have you read, An Army at Dawn, by Rick Atkinson? It won the History Pulitzer in 2003 back for the story of the US Army in North Africa in 1942-43.
I'm a fairly avid reader of WWII history and I just couldn't get through this thing. I've heard a lot of good about Atkinson's work but I just got bogged down in this thing and lost all desire to read it. Might circle back in a year or so and try again.
 
The Warsaw Ghetto Rebellion, Part 2

Despite the fact that the Jews were liked by the nobility, they soon came to be hated by the peasants who made up the vast majority of the Polish and Ukranian populations. To understand these peasants, the best analogy would be to modern day peasants living in Middle Eastern countries. Like these, most eastern European peasants were generally illiterate (in contrast, it would be rare to find a Jew that was illiterate- then, as now, education being considered a prime virtue among Jews), and like most modern day Muslims, they did not read the Bible but had it translated to them from the Latin by village priests. Even after Martin Luther revolutionized central Europe (and world civilization) by translating the Bible into German, this practice of the priests interpreting the Bible continued for centuries in Eastern Europe.

What did these priests, who were nearly illiterate themselves, say about the Scriptures? They told their believing flock that the Jews killed Jesus Christ. They told them that the Bible stated that God hated the Jews, and wanted them punished for their sins on Earth. They said that Jews poisoned wells and used the blood of gentile children in their rituals. They preached that Paul, Matthew, Luke, and the rest of the writers of the New Testament (none of whom were Jewish), wrote in that book that killing Jews was a blessing. As the Muslim mullahs do today, these priests twisted and made up Scripture, turning it into a document of hate. And the masses ate it up. It was frustrating to blame their woes on the nobles, who were often not around and were well guarded. It was much easier to blame the Jews.

And the Jews did not help themselves, because ever since the Fall of the Second Temple, their rabbis had preached that violence, even in self-defense, was against the laws of God. By teaching this, they seemed to ignore their entire history. In the Old Testament of the Bible of course, the Jews had been great warriors. Even during Jesus' time, Jews such as Akiva, Giora and Simon Bar Kochba waged incredible and bloody revolts against the Roman Empire. All of this was forgotten by the 17th century. Jews were taught never to pick up "weapons of death". Furthermore, they believed that suffering was the price they must pay for attempting to follow God's laws on Earth. They responded to riots and progroms by bowing their heads and never lifting a finger in their own defense.

To make matters worse, the land the Jews now occupied was dominated by two competing Christian sects. The Poles who ruled the land were Catholic, while the Ukranians were Eastern Orthodox. There were always tensions between these two groups, with the Ukranians chafing under Polish rule. Meanwhile the flat, agriculturally rich lands of Poland were coveted by outside forces, especially Sweden, the German states, and Russia in the east, which also regarded the Ukraine as part of its lands.

All of this broke forth in the 1650's, when the Ukranians staged a revolt, and Sweden and Germany invaded Poland at the same time, and Russia, under the excuse that they were putting down the Ukranian revolt, also invaded from the east. This began the period in Eastern European history known as the Deluge, and it caused endless suffering for all of the peoples for decades. In fact, it can safely be said that the land never recovered from the misery. Land that had been rich was ruined for centuries. From Kiev to Warsaw to Vilna, great cities were completely destroyed. Law became virtually unknown. By the time it was over (nearly a century later) the kingdom of Poland was no more. The land was divided into parts ruled mostly by Russia (which included the Ukraine) and Germany and Austria. Poland would not become an independent state again until after World War I.

No people suffered as much from the Deluge as the Jews. The original Ukranian uprising that started it was led by a Cossack named Boris Chmeltnyski, who ordered his men to slay every Jew they found: men, women, children. These troops killed over 500,000 Jews in 1656. The Jewish population of Kiev, at that time the richest and most populous on Earth, was completely eliminated. The Poles fighting the Ukrainians (and Swedes and Germans) responded by killing their own Jews. Between these massacres, plague, carried from the transfer of dirty water in the warfare, decimated the population as a whole. By the time the Deluge was over, the Jews had lost 70% of their population.

The remainder were placed under severe restriction by the new Russian governors of Poland. A series of laws cut down their movements, culminating in the establishment of the Pale by Catherine. No longer were the Jews wealthy. No longer were they given religious freedom. A long period of great poverty, misery, and discrimination began. But still the Rabbis told their flock: don't fight back. This is God's will.

 
Actually it was Prussia, not "Germany" who took Polish territory. There was no "Germany" until Bismarck united all the duchies, electorates and the remnants of the Holy Roman Empire in the 1870s.

 
Actually it was Prussia, not "Germany" who took Polish territory. There was no "Germany" until Bismarck united all the duchies, electorates and the remnants of the Holy Roman Empire in the 1870s.
Man are you picky! I should have said, "German states". I didn't say Prussia because if I recall correctly some of the other German states were also involved. But you're correct.
 
The Warsaw Ghetto Rebellion Part 3

Readers may be wondering why I have bothered in the previous two posts to list the various tribulations of the Polish Jews over the centuries. The answer is that, in order to truly appreciate the Warsaw Ghetto Rebellion, you have to understand the mindset of the 20th century Jews in Eastern Europe. And to understand that mindset, this history, and how it affected them is crucial. And how did it affect them?

The Jews who survived the Deluge were no longer rich, no longer safe, and subject to living in misery. Suddenly many of the old teachings did not seem to provide answers any more. A series of new thoughts and movements appeared. The first of these was the appearance of the False Messiahs, the most famous being the rabbi Shabbatai Zvi, who claimed to be the One to lead the Jews back to Israel. (It is important here for clarification purposes to separate the Jewish concept of the Messiah from the Christian one. According to Christianity, Jesus is the Messiah, sent to Earth to save the souls of all mankind. Jews regard the Messiah as not a divine being, but more like a Moses figure, sent by God to lead the Jewish people of the Diaspora back to Jerusalem. This belief is the main reason that Jews shied away from self defense- if God wanted to save them, He will send the Messiah, etc.) Zvi and Jacob Frank turned out to be fakes, and Jews around the world were disillusioned.

The second idea to sweep through the Jews during these years was Hasidism. Followers of the Baal Shem Tov, an 18th century prodigy, believed the answers to misery was found in turning one's back on the world and becoming as devout as possible. The Hasidic Jews quickly separated themselves from the mass of the Jewish community, shunning them as too liberal in their beliefs. Hasids were fundamentalist to the extreme. A smaller sect of the Hasids were the Kabbalists, who believed that mysticism provided the answers to all questions (yes, this is the same group that Madonna now belongs to.)

A good chunk of Jews attempted to assimilate. Of course, this was restricted, because of bigotry and the laws against them. Nevertheless, a significant number of Polish government officials, businessmen, doctors, artists, writers, lawyers, scientists, philosophers, and musicians were Jewish. Jews were important members of every labor movement that swept through the 19th century, including, of course, the Communists and Socialists. But often even in these groups they were segregated out- the Bund, formed in the 1880s, was the leading Jewish Socialist organization in Poland.

Many Jews chose to emigrate as well, mostly to America, a few to Palestine. More Jews actually emigrated from Russia than from Poland, as a result of mistreatment by the Tsar. Of course, the vast majority of Jews in both countries could not afford the passage. They continued, year after year, to suffer through a miserable existence, their only joy coming from religious services and family events. Jewish societies became very close knit. Those who could eek out earnings helped the poor, and the poor helped the poorer still. Along with education, charity was considered an essential virtue.

And then, in the late 19th century, Zionism appeared. It was a result of ideas that had been brewing among Jews for centuries, and it divided the Jewish community of Poland as no idea ever had before. The theory was radical: Jews should not wait for the Messiah, but plan to return to Palestine now! Jews should defend themselves like other people! Thousands of Jews declared themselves Zionists immediately. Thousands of Jews, led by Rabbis, denounced the ideas as anti-God. Families stopped speaking to each other.

Among the Zionists themselves, two groups soon emerged: the majority were known as Labor Zionists, who believed the land should be obtained peacefully and then redeemed through hard collective labor. The Labor Zionists had large organizations in every major Polish city, especially Warsaw and Lodz. A smaller group were the Revisionists- they believed that warfare and retaliation against anti-Semitism was the only answer. Though very vocal, their numbers were tiny- Jews were still not ready for violence. Even the self-defense position of the Labor Zionists was rejected by most Jews.

Among all of the groups I have mentioned here there were dozens of sub-sects, and even in the most tightly knit they could not agree. It was a saying at the time that one Jew meant an idea, but two Jews meant an argument. Coming into the 20th Century and their greatest tests as a people, the Jews were hardly united.

 
Actually it was Prussia, not "Germany" who took Polish territory. There was no "Germany" until Bismarck united all the duchies, electorates and the remnants of the Holy Roman Empire in the 1870s.
Man are you picky!
He's a grumpy old ####er, leave him be :confused:Really DC is a pretty good authority on this subject since he is probably one of a handful of people on this board who were actually close to the time of WWII taking place. Much respect DC, OBC misses you, now Bowie is the old man.
 
The Warsaw Ghetto Rebellion, Part 4

After World War I, as a result of the Treaty of Versailles, Poland once again became an independent nation for the first time in 300 years. Jews rejoiced at this and the leadership of Marshall Pilsudski, who had many high level Jewish associates and promised the Jews equal treatment in the new Polish republic.

They were quickly disillusioned. Pilsudski created a dictatorship, and he foolishly chose to go to war with the Soviet Union. The result was more progroms against the Jews, which the marshall turned a blind eye to. When Pilsudski died in the early 1930's control of Poland was turned over to a group of despotic Polish colonels, most of whom were heavily anti-Semitic. In part to appease Hitler, but mostly because they believed it, the colonels instituted a series of new laws restricting Jews. Quotas were established in universities and hospitals and for all Jewish professionals. Jews were taxed 20% higher than Christians living in Poland. Polish writers issued pamphlets denouncing Jews as the source of all of their problems. The Jews endured this mistreatment as they had endured things in the past. Though they were aware of the growing threat of the Nazis, few were willing to leave their homes at this point. They had been through so much, survived so much, how could things get worse? And as I have written, they were divided, without any leadership to speak for them as a whole.

When Germany attacked in September of 1939, over 50,000 Jews volunteered for the Polish Army. The vast majority of these were segregated, given no weapons, assigned to degrading duty. Despite this, over 10,000 Jews were killed in the war. In Warsaw, where the largest concentration of Jews lived (around 300,000) they played a major role in helping to defend the city during the siege. When Warsaw finally surrendered, with half the city in rubble, the Jews watched silently with dread as the Nazis led by Adolf Hitler staged a parade through the streets of Warsaw.

Among the various Jewish groups everyone knew times were going to be very bad. Some predicted it would be nearly as bad as the worst of the Deluge. The wealthy Jews sent their money to Switzerland and prepared for whatever was to come. Most people didn't have any wealth to send, they would simply have to make do. Whatever happened, they told themselves, they would survive; they always had.

 
The Warsaw Ghetto Rebellion Part 5

In October of 1939, the Nazis moved in quickly. Using Polish informers, they compiled a list of the various leaders of the Jewish community- those Jews who were the most likely, in times of trouble, to unite the people: high level government officials, writers, playwrights, leading Zionists, the few Jewish military officers. Anyone who had been known to speak out in defiance of anti-Semitism in the past. These people, numbering in the hundreds, were immediately arrested, taken to the Warsaw prison known as Paiwak and shot.

With this task completed, the Nazis now selected a group of more subservient prominent Jews and formed the Jewish Council, of Judenrat. The leader of the Judenrat in Warsaw was a former member of the Polish senate named Adam Czerniakow. Prior to the war he had been a well known civil engineer. The purpose of the Judenrat was to relate orders from the German authorities, and then see to it that these orders were carried out. It was explained that very shortly the Jews of Warsaw would be placed on severe rations, much worse than what the Poles would receive; yet the Judenrat, and their family members would receive rations equal to the Poles. That is, so long as they obeyed orders.

The Jewish Council immediately began to issue a set of directives: No Jew could be a member of the professional trades. No Jewish child could go to a public school. The practice of the Jewish religion was outlawed. No Jew could ride a tram, go to a movie, enter a public park, enter a public hospital, eat at a public restaurant. All Jews had to wear a yellow Star of David at all times. Because it was known that the Jews had started the war, they were to pay an indemnity to the Germans of several million zlotys (the Polish currency.) In order to ensure this, a group of rabbis were taken to Paiwak prison and held as hostage until the amount was paid. For the purposes of these directives, a Jew was anyone who had at least one grandfather who was a Jew. Jews who had converted to Christianity were still considered Jewish.

The Nazis began a campaign among the Poles blaming the Jews for causing their misery. Billboards in Poland, which had featured movie placards a month before, now featured drawings of wicked looking bearded Jews poisoning innocent Polish children. The campaign generally worked; the Polish population were always eager for a Jewish scapegoat. Those Poles who had in the past bravely spoken on behalf of the Jews were now silent; they were terrified.

Nazi thugs, led by the SS, now wandered through the streets of Warsaw beating up Jews. They especially liked targeting the Hasidic Jews in order to cut their beards, and also were fond of persecuting the elderly. Old women were forced to scrub the streets while their husbands were made to climb trees and pretend to be monkeys, or stand in place while Nazis urinated on them. Any resistance or argument meant being shot. Sometimes they were shot anyhow. The SS released a deranged psychotic bulky woman named Mad Gerta who wandered the streets of Warsaw with a lead pipe, beating to death any Jews she could find.

And this was all preliminary to what was coming.

 
The Warsaw Ghetto Rebellion Part 6

The Jews recoiled from the mistreatment and the new directives. But what should be done? An attempt was made by some of the remaining leaders to unite the various groups: the religious, the Socialist Bund, the various Zionist factions. It failed. The divisions were too strong, the distrust was too great. The Revisionists among the Zionists talked angrily of an armed resistance to the Nazis. But it was nothing but talk. Nobody had any weapons (Jews had not been allowed by law to purchase guns in Poland) and nobody knew how to use them anyhow. For over 1,000 years the Jews had been basically pacifist without fighting skills. Most Jews chose to keep their heads down, obey orders, and hope things would not get worse.

An eminent Zionist historian named Emmanuel Ringelbaum decided at the outbreak of the war that he would record everything that happened. He kept a series of hidden journals, documenting everything around him. Because of Ringlebaum's efforts, we now have a fairly complete history of the Warsaw Ghetto. Ringelbaum believed that his journals were a form of passive resistance, because someday the world would read his journals and be horrified by the truth of what happened here. He was to prove right on all counts, to a much greater extent than he was aware of, as we shall see.

Each Jew (and Polish citizen) was issued a kenkarte or ration book. All markets were closed; the only way to get food was with the ration book. Jews' rations were roughly half of Polish rations. Huge German factories were being established in the center of the Jewish area: brushmakers, uniforms, light machinery. Jews who "volunteered" to work at these factories (without pay) were issued slightly greater rations. The factories were slave labor- laborers worked 14 hours a day, 7 days a week, under terrifying conditions. They were routinely whipped and beaten, sometimes shot by German guards. Within a few months the Judenrat, acting on German orders, lowered the rations again except for laborers, which created a surplus pool of people begging to secure a "safe" job at one of the factories.

It would be nice to write that the factory owners were nice sympathetic guys like Oskar Schindler. Schindler, who operated his factory in Krakow, was a rarity. Most of these businessmen were pleased to simply enjoy the incredible earnings they were accumulating and did not bother with the conditions or ultimate fate of their "employees". They were aided by Jews who became rich as well, primarily a group known as the "Big Seven". The Big Seven was made up of Jewish organized crime gangsters who had smuggling contacts from before the war. They quickly became valuable to the German officials as "providers"- they could secure fine food, clothing, whores on demand. As a result of the low rations, smuggling became a way of life in Warsaw, and the Big Seven secured control of warehouses filled with food and supplies. With that, they began to control all black market activities.

Meanwhile, the Zloty- which had been equal to a dollar before the war, began to rise. In November of 1939, it was 10 Zlotys to a dollar. By January 1940 it was 100, and by the summer 5,000 to 1, and at that point it became completely worthless. All of this was done at the deliberate intention of the Germans, who gave their soldiers worthless currency to spend. Within a year after the Germans had occupied Poland, value could only be had in possesions such as gems or jewelry that one could keep hidden away. Otherwise Poles and Jews alike were dependent upon the ration cards for any and all food.

In the Summer of 1940, the Germans through the Judenrat made three startling announcements: first, all Jews living in Warsaw would now have to live in the center of the city in a two mile area connected to the factories that had been set up. Second, a wall, built with Jewish labor, would be built around the area, and no Jew would be allowed to leave. Third, Jews within a 200 mile radius living outside of Warsaw would also be forced to live within the retricted area. There would be no exceptions to these new regulations.

The day of the Warsaw Ghetto had arrived.

 
beer 30 said:
Actually it was Prussia, not "Germany" who took Polish territory. There was no "Germany" until Bismarck united all the duchies, electorates and the remnants of the Holy Roman Empire in the 1870s.
Man are you picky!
He's a grumpy old ####er, leave him be :thumbup:Really DC is a pretty good authority on this subject since he is probably one of a handful of people on this board who were actually close to the time of WWII taking place. Much respect DC, OBC misses you, now Bowie is the old man.
Damn, punk, kids and their rap music....Get off my lawn!Say HI to the OBC boys, for me.
 
Does anyone have any more info on the B-25 that landed in Russia? I'm really fascinated by this story; I'd like to know why they were interned, why the State Department didn't insist they be released immediately (or if it was unknown, whether or not it created a controversy when it was revealed) why they were forced to escape and how they did so. Sounds like a great plot for a movie.

The flick Pearl Harbor also covers the Doolittle Raid, if you can stomach Alec Baldwin as Doolittle.
I've read some stuff about US pilots interned in Siberia and IIRC it had to do with Soviet secrecy about what was going on out there. As I also recall, there were some instances of B-29 pilots crash-landing there in the later part of the war. Stalin's paranoia about the US knowing what he was doing cannot be underestimated, even during the time we were their "allies". The Russians probably thought that the Doolittle guys were spys and so held them for that reason alone.And comparing Alec Baldwin to Spencer Tracy is ludicrious.
I know this is many pages late, but really? In a Michael Bay movie?! With Ben ####### Affleck and Josh Hartnett?! And you guys are worried about Alec Baldwin?! Srsly?!
 
THE SUBMARINE WAR IN THE PACIFIC--1

Beginning in 1943, with the targeting of merchant ships bringing much needed raw materials to Japan, US submarines began to exact a bigger and bigger toll on the Japanese. What Admiral Doenitz had hoped to do to England is what the US systematically did to Japan. At the beginning of the war, the Japanese merchant fleet had 6.4 million tons of shipping. Despite the addition of 700,000 tons of new shipping in 1942, they lost 1.1 million tons to end the year with 5.9 million tons. In 1943, they produced 1 million tons and lost 2 million. In 1944, they produced 1.7 million, and lost an astonishing 4 million tons. Over 2,100 Japanese merchant ships were sunk during the course of the war. Most of this was due to US submarines.

Some notable exploits:

USS Rasher (Gato Class);Commander Henry G. Munson relieved Commander Laughon as commanding officer of Rasher.] Rashers fifth patrol was spent largely with Bluefish in the South China Sea west of Luzon. Thirty miles south of Scarborough Shoal at 2255 5 August, Rasher launched a spread of six bow torpedoes at the largest ship in a three-ship convoy. Diving to avoid being rammed, Rashers crew counted five hits and heard the sounds of a ship breaking up as the army cargo ship Shiroganesan Maru went down.

Rasher observed nine successive aircraft contacts to the north on the afternoon of 18 August and deduced these were air patrols for an important convoy.] That dark, rainy night Rasher's radar picked up a 13 knot (24 km/h) convoy of thirteen ships protected by six escorts. After a surfaced approach to 2,800 yards, two stern torpedoes were launched at Teiyo Maru at 2122. Both torpedoes hit; and the tanker loaded with gasoline exploded into a column of flame 1,000 feet high, with parts of the ship being blown 500 yards from the flaming hulk.

The escorts fired wildly and laid depth charge patterns astern of Rasher.] In a second surfaced approach to 3,300 yards Rasher launched a spread of six bow torpedoes. Three torpedoes hit and sank the 17,000 ton transport Teia Maru and a fourth torpedo was heard exploding at a timed range of 3900 yards. Rasher swung hard left to launch four stern torpedoes at 2214. Three torpedoes hit and sank the 20,000 ton carrier Taiyō, and the fourth torpedo was heard exploding on a more distant ship.

Rasher pulled away to reload torpedo tubes and the convoy split into two groups. Rasher followed the group moving northwest while Bluefish intercepted the remaining ships continuing southwesterly and sank two tankers. Rasher launched four bow torpedoes at a range of 2,200 yards, and three hits on the cargo-transport Eishin Maru caused an ammunition detonation with the pressure wave sweeping over the submarine's bridge. The fourth torpedo was heard exploding on a more distant ship. Rasher then swung hard right to launch two stern torpedoes. Both torpedoes hit and Noshiro Maru slowed to 5 knots and reversed course. Spadefish joined the wolfpack and scored hits on two of the surviving transports.

Rasher counted sixteen detonations from the eighteen torpedoes fired on 18 August and five detonations for the six fired on 5 August. With all torpedoes expended, Rasher set course for Midway. Munson was called into a secret conference at Midway to compare his observations with decrypted Japanese message traffic. Postwar accounting verified Rasher had sunk the highest tonnage of any World War II U.S. submarine patrol to that date. Rasher proceeded to San Francisco via Hawaii for overhaul at Hunter's Point Naval Shipyard on 11 September. She was given a new 5-inch deck gun, ST radar, and many other upgrades.

USSSpadefish (Balao Class); Following shakedown training along the coast of California, Spadefish departed San Francisco on 14 June and arrived at Pearl Harbor on 22 June. On 23 July, she got underway from Pearl Harbor for her maiden war patrol, as a member of a coordinated attack group with Picuda (SS-382) and Redfish (SS-395).

On 19 August, while patrolling in Philippine water off the northwest coast of Luzon, Spadefish got off to a resounding start by torpedoing and sinking Japan's 9,589-ton, passenger-cargo ship Tamatsu Maru. Three days later, she trailed three large tankers through Babuyan Channel along the northern Luzon coast; closed range; and fired two spreads of torpedoes, sinking the 10,023-ton tanker Hakko Maru No. 2, and damaging a second tanker that, protected by a destroyer, limped back to a shallow cove off Luzon.

For several hours into the next day, Spadefish attempted to get around the escort to attack the damaged ship anchored in the cove. The submarine finally let go with four stern torpedoes at the destroyer, but the enemy zigged clear and proceeded to depth charge the entire area. Having only three torpedoes remaining, Spadefish set course for Tanapag Harbor, Saipan, to replenish her supply.

On 8 September, Spadefish was patrolling in waters of Nansei Shoto when she contacted a convoy of eight cargo ships. During a daring night surface attack, she fired a total of 20 torpedoes, sinking cargo ships Nichiman Maru, Nichian Maru, Shinten Maru, and Shokei Maru and damaging another. The following morning, she fired her final four torpedoes at an escort guarding the stricken ship; but they ran under the target. The submarine's only reward on this occasion was a rain of depth charges.

Although she was out of torpedoes, Spadefish continued to trail the remaining ships of the convoy that first took refuge in the harbor of Ishigaki; and then, in company with five escorts, continued their voyage. Spadefish terminated her first war patrol at Pearl Harbor on 24 September, having sunk six enemy ships for a total of over 31,500 tons. With the additional 33,000 tons sunk by her sister submarines, the coordinated attack group accounted for a total of 13 ships and over 64,000 tons of enemy shipping.

USS Tang (Balao Class); On the morning of 17 February 1944 she sighted a convoy of two freighters, their escorts, and five smaller ships. The submarine tracked the convoy, plotted its course, and then prepared to attack. An escort suddenly appeared at a range of 7000 yards and closing. Tang went deep and received five depth charges before the escort departed. Undamaged, she returned to periscope depth and resumed the attack. The range on the nearest freighter closed to 1500 yards, and Tang fired a spread of four torpedoes. Three of them hit, and Gyoten Maru sank by the stern. The submarine cleared the area by running deep and then attempted to get ahead of the convoy for a dawn attack, but the remaining freighter passed out of range under air escort.

During the night of 22 February, Tang made a surface attack on a convoy of three cargo ships and four escorts. She tracked the Japanese ships for half an hour before attaining a firing position 1500 yards off the port bow of a freighter. A spread of four torpedoes hit ####uyama Maru from bow to stern, and the enemy ship disintegrated. Early the next morning, Tang made another approach on the convoy. The escort of the lead ship, Yamashimo Maru, moved from its covering position on the port bow, and the submarine slipped into it and launched four torpedoes. The first hit the stern of the cargoman, the second struck just aft of the stack; and the third burst just forward of the bridge and produced a terrific secondary explosion. The ship was twisted, lifted from the water, and began belching flames as she sank.

On the morning of 24 February, Tang sighted a tanker, a freighter, and a destroyer. Rain squalls hampered her as she attempted to attain a good firing position, so she tracked the ships until night and then made a surface attack. She launched four torpedoes and scored three hits which sank the freighter. The two remaining ships commenced firing in all directions, and Tang submerged to begin evasive action. She shadowed the enemy until morning and then closed the tanker for a submerged attack. Additional lookouts had been posted on the target's deck and, when the spread of torpedoes from Tang struck her, they were hurled into the air with other debris from the ship. Echizen Maru sank in four minutes as Tang went deep and rigged for the depth charge attack that followed. The next day, the submarine sank Choko Maru, a 1794-ton cargo ship.

Tang contacted a convoy consisting of a freighter, transport, and four escorts on the evening of 26 February. She maneuvered into position to attack the wildly zigzagging transport and fired her last four torpedoes. All passed astern as the transport sped up. Having expended all of her torpedoes and scored 16 hits out of 24 attempts, the submarine put into Midway Island for refit.

Tang’s second patrol began on 16 March and took her to waters around the Palau Islands, to Davao Gulf, and to the approaches to Truk. She made only five surface contacts and had no opportunity to launch an attack before she was assigned to lifeguard duty near Truk. Tang rescued 22 downed airmen and transported them to Hawaii at the conclusion of the patrol.

Her third war patrol was one of the most devastating carried out against Japanese shipping during the war. Tang got underway from Pearl Harbor on 8 June and hunted enemy shipping in the East China Sea and Yellow Sea areas. On 24 June, southwest of Kagoshima, the submarine contacted a convoy of six large ships guarded by 16 escorts.

Tang closed for a surface attack and fired a spread of three torpedoes at one of the ships and quickly launched a similar spread at a second target. Explosions followed, and Tang reported two ships sunk. However, postwar examination of Japanese records revealed by the Japanese government show that two passenger-cargo ships and two freighters were sunk. The ships must have overlapped, and the torpedo spread must have hit and sunk two victims in addition to their intended targets. Those sunk—Tamahoko Maru, Tainan Maru, Nasusan Maru, and Kennichi Maru—added up to 16,292 tons of enemy shipping.

On 30 June, while she patrolled the lane from Kyūshū to Dairen, Tang sighted another cargo ship steaming without an escort. After making an end around run on the surface which produced two torpedo misses, Tang went deep to avoid depth charges, then surfaced and chased the hapless ship until she closed the range to 750 yards. A single torpedo blew Nikkin Maru in half, and the merchantman sank.

The next morning, Tang sighted a tanker and a freighter. While she sank freighter Taiun Maru Number Two, tanker Takatori Maru Number One fled. The submarine trailed until dark, then launched two torpedoes which sent the latter down. Tang celebrated 4 July at dawn by an end-around, submerged attack on an enemy freighter which was near shore. However, with rapidly shoaling water and her keel about to touch bottom, Tang backed off; fired a spread of three with two hits and then surfaced as survivors of the 6886-ton cargo ship Asukazan Maru were being rescued by fishing boats. That afternoon, Tang sighted Yamaoka Maru, another cargo ship of approximately the same size, and sank her with two torpedoes. The submarine surfaced and, with the aid of grapnel hooks and Thompson submachine guns, rescued a survivor who had been clinging to an overturned lifeboat. While prowling the waters off Dairen late the next night, the submarine sighted a cargo ship and, during a submerged attack with her last two torpedoes, sank Dori Maru. The box score for her third patrol was ten enemy merchant ships sunk that totaled 39,160 tons.

Her fourth war patrol was conducted from 31 July to 3 September in Japanese home waters off the coast of Honshū. On 10 August, she fired a spread of three torpedoes at a tanker near the beach of Omaezaki with no hits. The next day, after locating two freighters and two escorts, she launched three torpedoes at the larger freighter and two at the other. The larger freighter disintegrated apparently from a torpedo which exploded in her boilers. As the submarine went deep, her crew heard the fourth and fifth torpedoes hit the second ship. After a jarring depth charge attack which lasted 38 minutes, Tang returned to periscope level. Only the two escorts were in sight, and one of them was picking up survivors.

On 14 August, Tang attacked a patrol yacht with her deck gun and reduced the Japanese ship's deck house to a shambles with eight hits. Eight days later, she sank a 225-foot patrol boat. On 23 August, the submarine closed a large ship; Japanese in white uniforms could be seen lining its superstructure and the bridge. She launched three torpedoes, and two hits caused the 8135-ton transport Tsukushi Maru to sink. Two days later, Tang sank a tanker and an escort with her last three torpedoes and then returned to Pearl Harbor.

After a refit and overhaul, Tang stood out to sea on 24 September for her fifth war patrol. After topping off with fuel at Midway Island, she sailed for Formosa Strait on 27 September. In order to reach her area, Tang had to pass through narrow waters known to be heavily patrolled by the enemy. A large area stretching northeast from Formosa was known to be mined by the enemy, and O'Kane was given the choice of making the passage north of Formosa alone, or joining a coordinated attack group (Silversides (SS-236), Trigger (SS-237), and Salmon (SS-182), under Commander Coye in Silversides) which was to patrol off northeast Formosa, and making the passage with them.

Tang chose to make the passage alone and these vessels never heard from Tang, nor did any base, after she left Midway Island.

According to her captain, who survived as a Japanese prisoner of war, she was sunk by one of her own faulty torpedoes. He was one of the few survivors (he was on the bridge), and was picked up by the Japanese.

Next one is the biggie...

 
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The Warsaw Ghetto Rebellion Part 7

Many of the Jews were relieved by the establishment of the Ghetto walls, because they hoped that inside them they would be safer from the German harassment. The Ghetto walls were ten feet high, made of stone and concrete with broken glass on top. Six entrances guarded by Germans and Polish Blues (Polish soldiers) were the only ways out, but unless one had a special pass, these were useless. The area of central Warsaw closed off by the Ghetto was roughly 2 miles wide. All 300,000 of Warsaw's Jews were forced into it. Then another 200,000 were moved in from the outside countryside. Soon half a million people were crammed into a human stockyard. There was no room. People lived 10 to 20 to a room. Only the very wealthy had their own space, Big 7 chiefs or Judenrat members and their families.

To complete the Nazi idea that the Jews were doing this to themselves, a Jewish police force was established. Armed with clubs, these were former thugs of low intelligence selected by the Nazis for their brutality. They were given fancy uniforms and cruised the streets beating people with German approval. Meanwhile the Big 7, with German approval, opened up fancy nightclubs with the best Jewish mucisians for German soldiers stationed in Warsaw. The entertainment in these clubs was lavish and no luxury or excess was denied to those who could afford it. If you wanted more refined entertainment, there was a symphony orchestra featuring some of the finest musicians in Europe.

The Jewish organizations, the Zionists, Socialist Bund, and religious groups tried to hang on. They formed self-help society and took in as many new people as they could. They attempted to hold the line against starvation. Orphans were cared for, and schools and hospitals were established. Plays and concerts were performed, debate societies, chess clubs. The Jewish religion, though outlawed, was carried on in secret rooms. The people tried desperately to maintain their culture and dignity. The Judenrat was no help. They continued, at German insistence, to cut ration levels. Soon the rations were so low that no one could possibly survive them.

The inevitable result was smuggling. The Big 7 gangsters controlled the black market, but there were thousands of independent smugglers. The best were young children, because of their size. They sneaked through cracks in the walls or under the sewers to the outside of the Ghetto, where they stole enough food to keep their families alive for one more day, one more week. Anyone caught was killed on sight. Children were hung in front of their parents. The Poles outslde the Ghetto did very little to help. Many considered it great sport to turn any Jews in to the Germans that were caught outside.

The great source of conscience in Poland, the Catholic Church, was silent. In Denmark, the church had saved its Jews by resisting the Nazis. In Holland, France, Italy, Norway, and even in parts of Germany itself, Christians hid Jews and risked their own lives doing so, because they believed that they could not be true to their religious beliefs and be witness to these events without doing anything. Not so in Poland. Very few were the Poles who took any action helping Jews. They either actively helped the Germans or watched with general apathy.

One source of help were the American Jews. The American Jews poured hundreds of thousands of dollars into Warsaw, which mostly went to the Zionists organizations, and this money alone saved the Ghetto for the first year of its existence. However, after December 7, 1941, the ability to send money was stopped. In desperation, the American Jews now sent money through a complicated route: it was transfered to the two Jewish members of the Polish government in London, and then sent to the Home Army, which was the Polish underground movement in contact with that government. The Home Army would not allow Jewish members. When it received funds from London, usually parachuted at great risk, it would keep at least 75% for itself and give only a small amount to the Jews.

In addition to starvation, because of the close quarters and lack of water, long forgotten diseases broke out among the Jews. The worst of these were Typhus and Cholera. Thousands began to die. In the winter of 1941, the numbers grew to 3,000 to 4,000 a day. People who walked the streets of the Ghetto were accustomed to seeing sick or dead bodies just lying in the streets. There was no help for it. But slowly as 1942 approached, these numbers began to recede a little. The Jews that remained were the hardy ones who seemed to survive anything. Though most looked like skeletons, they were determined to preservere. And it was in January of 1942 that the first serious talk of an organized resistance began.

 
THE SUBMARINE WAR IN THE PACIFIC—2

“I have a rendezvous with Death

At midnight in some flaming (sea)...

I shall not fail that rendezvous.”

After the June 1942 battle of Midway, where the Japanese lost 4 carriers, it was decided to change the construction of Shinano, originally scheduled to be the third of the Japanese superbattleships (the Yamato and Musashi were the others) to make her into an aircraft carrier. Over the next two years, Shinano was heavily modified to act as a large aircraft carrier.

The conversion process placed a heavy emphasis on flight-deck armor, similar to the design of the British Illustrious class aircraft carriers. The flight-deck was designed to withstand 1,000 pound bombs, the largest in the arsenal of the United States Navy that could be carried by dive-bombers. The flight deck had armor plate 4 inches thick, and the below deck hangar deck had armor plate 8 inches thick.

Shinano was officially launched 5 October 1944, with Captain Toshio Abe in overall command of the vessel. With a full-load displacement of 72,000 tons, Shinano was the largest aircraft carrier ever built—a rank it would hold until the USS Forrestal, with a displacement of 80,000 tons, was launched in 1954.

The ship's very existence was kept a closely-guarded secret. A tall fence was erected on three sides of the graving dock, and those working on the conversion were confined to the yard compound. Serious punishment—up to and including death—awaited anyone who breathed a word about Japan's new carrier. As a result, Shinano was the only major warship built in the 20th century to have never been officially photographed during its construction.

On 19 November 1944, Shinano was formally commissioned at Yokosuka, having spent the previous two weeks fitting out and performing minor trials. As a result of growing worry for her safety, Japanese Naval Command ordered Shinano to Kure, where the remainder of her fitting-out would take place. Yokosuka was too close to Tokyo and Yokohama, prime targets for US bombing; Kure was in Japan's Inland Sea, much further away from strategic targets.

Naval Command wanted Shinano moved to Kure no later than 28 November. However, her commanding officer, Captain Toshio Abe, asked for a delay in the sailing date. The majority of her watertight compartment doors had yet to be installed, and the ship had not been tested for watertightness. He also wanted more time to train his new crew.

Abe's request was denied, and Shinano departed as scheduled on 28 November, escorted by three destroyers. Abe commanded a crew of 2,176 officers and men. Also on board were 300 shipyard workers and 40 civilian employees. Abe was due to be promoted to rear admiral once Shinano completed her fitting-out, and take command of a fleet of attack carriers being built up in the east. Shinano was also assigned her own air group, commanded by Lieutenant Commander Yoshio Shiga, a veteran of the attack on Pearl Harbor. Shiga's air group would have already been aboard when Shinano sortied for Kure, but four of her 12 boilers were not in service for want of parts. This cut her top speed from 27 knots to 21 knots — too slow for planes to launch without a headwind.

Archer-Fish, a Balao Class submarine was commissioned in New London, CT, and spent shakedown time in the Caribbean before transiting the Panama Canal to join the Pacific fleet. She was one fiftieth the size of the Shinano, and was under the command of Joseph F. Enright. Her earlier patrols were not particularly noteworthy, but on October 30, 1944, she left Hawaii, visited Saipan on 9 November for quick voyage repairs, and departed two days later to carry out her next patrol, in which her primary mission was to provide lifeguard services for the first B-29 Superfortress strikes against Tokyo.

She was patrolling the seas south of Yokohama and Tokyo on the 28th of November, but received word that there would be no raids that day. At 2100 hours she picked up strong signals on her radar. It was “something big”, presumably a large tanker, that had sortied from Tokyo Bay, with some accompanying vessels. Shinano also picked up radar contacts of Archer-Fish, as she was on the surface.

Although Shinano was faster than Archer-Fish (21 knots vs 18 knots), the sub was able to remain in pursuit of Shinano due to the zig-zagging pattern of Shinano and her escorts. Abe's zig-zagging was guided by his assumption that Archer-Fish was part of an American wolf pack. He believed that Archer-Fish was being used as a decoy to lure away one of the destroyer escorts, allowing the rest of the pack a clear shot at Shinano. He actually ordered one of the destroyers to turn back when he spotted it trying to ram Archer-Fish, in part because he believed it left Shinano's bow exposed to an ambush.

Because of the accompanying destroyers, Enright realized that a surface attack would likely fail, so he raced ahead, hoping the Shinano's zigzagging pattern would bring her within range. After 6 hours, Shinano turned back into Archer-Fish's path, and she dived into attacking position. At 0305 on 29 November, Archer-Fish fired 6 shallow running torpedoes at Shinano, with four striking the starboard side between the anti-torpedo bulge and the waterline. Enright later said he'd deliberately set the torpedoes to run shallow (10 feet) in order to capsize the target. Shinano's destroyer escorts pursued Archer-Fish, forcing the sub to go deep.

Though severe, the damage to Shinano was at first judged to be manageable, and the carrier continued under way. However, progressive flooding over the next four hours caused Shinano to list to starboard. Archer-Fish's crew later reported that Shinano was already listing minutes after the last torpedo hit. At dawn, Captain Abe ordered three of the outboard boiler rooms counter-flooded. Thirty-six miles from where the torpedoes struck, Shinano's boiler water feed failed shortly afterwards. All efforts to control the flooding failed, in part because most of the crew was not well-trained in damage control.

At 07:45, Shinano lost all power, and ceased all forward motion shortly afterward. At 08:50, two of Shinano's escorts took her under tow, attempting to beach her on Cape Ushio. However, the two escorts only displaced 5,000 tons between them, not nearly enough to overcome the list. After two attempts, the towing effort had to be abandoned. At 10:18, Abe gave the order to abandon ship; by this time Shinano was listing 30 degrees to starboard. At 10:57 on 29 November, Shinano capsized and sank taking 1,400 sailors and civilian workers with her. The dead included Abe and both of his navigators.

The Japanese Navy was stunned; and the survivors of Shinano's sinking were quarantined in Japan for several months following her sinking, to prevent them from spreading news of the disaster.

Initially, the Office of Naval Intelligence thought that Archer-Fish had sunk a cruiser. However, Enright had made sketches of the target, and Archer-Fish was given credit for sinking a carrier. It was only later that the Navy learned the identity of Archer-Fish's quarry: Shinano, the 72,000-ton supercarrier. To this day she remains the largest ship ever to have been sunk by a submarine.

Archer-Fish received the Presidential Unit Citation, and Enright received the Navy Cross, for this action.

 
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Great stuff, Ozy.

It's especially important to take note of your mention of the fact that the Japanese quarantined members of the crew. You mentioned earlier this was also done after Midway, and I cited many similar examples of this during the Guadalcanal disaster. One of the results of this was that right up until the time the Japanese surrendered in August of 1945, the bulk of the population had no idea they were losing the war. This would have a profound effect on events during the last two years of the war.

 
The Warsaw Ghetto Rebellion Part 8

The leading organizations of the Jews in Warsaw still did not trust each other, but by January 1942, they reached some limited cooperation, as a means to survive. They now percieved that the Nazi plan was to starve them to death. And there might be worse things ahead- reports of massacres from Russia were too terrifying to believe. A secret meeting was arranged between the Labor Zionists and the Socialist Bund. The Zionists, led by members of a youth group called Hashomer Hatzair, proposed planning for a Jewish defense for the Ghetto in the event the Germans attempted to annihilate the Jews. The Bund was opposed- the Jews were unarmed, weak and helpless. Any illegal activity by Jews would be short lived and make things worse for the bulk of the population. A member of the youth group replied angrily, "You speak of illegal, right now it is illegal to for us to live. You speak of making things worse, just how worse can they be?" But the two sides could not agree.

The youth group decided to form their organization themselves. It was called Żydowska Organizacja Bojowa, the Jewish Fighting Organization, or ZOB for short. It's members were all in their late teens or early 20s. In early 1942, they faced three critical problems: how to obtain weapons, how to train as military soldiers (almost none of them had any experience whatsoever) and how to convince other Jews to join them. This last seemed the most unlikely. The remaining Jews of the Warsaw Ghetto were engaged in a day to day life and death struggle. Most believed that working as slave labor in one of the factories was still the key to survival. The Big 7 continued to control all black market activities, and the Judenrat and Jewish police still acted as pawns for the Germans. Death and disease were everywhere. Informers were everywhere, as well. And there was little hope of help from the outside.

The ZOB contacted the Home Army with the hope of obtaining guns. The Home Army leaders, most of whom were heavily anti-Semitic, were contemptuous: who ever heard of Jews fighting? Besides, there weren't enough guns to go around. On the other hand, if the Jews were willing to pay huge sums...the ZOB were mostly teenagers without any real money. They began smuggling a few guns in through robbery on the outside. By May of 1942 they posessed 4 pistols. There was no ammunition. There was no one to teach them how to shoot them.

Then a stroke of luck: they acquired a leader with military experience. His name was Mordechai Anielewicz, he was 23 years old, and he had fought in the Polish and Russian armies and even escaped from a Russian prison camp. Anielewicz' first move was to contact some of the best known Jewish chemists from before the war. He set them up in a secret basement and had them start manufacturing pipe bombs and grenades. Some of these were similar to Molotov Cocktails. The "grenades" were cans filled with nuts and bolts which would explode when thrown. Aneilewicz concieved of a large land mine made of nuts and bolts as well.

These few hundred boys and girls were determined to take on the Germans, or die in the attempt. Though they had no support from their community, no real weapons of any kind, and no hope of success, they seemed to have about them, as Ringlebaum and a few others related, a sense of peace and even euphoria. At least they were resisting, fighting back against oppression. To Ringlebaum, one of the more poetic commanders of the ZOB quoted Milton's Paradise Lost:

Innumerable force of Spirits armed,

That durst dislike his reign, and, me preferring,

His utmost power with adverse power opposed

In dubious battle on the plains of Heaven,

And shook his throne. What though the field be lost?

All is not lost--the unconquerable will,

And study of revenge, immortal hate,

And courage never to submit or yield:

And what is else not to be overcome?

 

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