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I think Madonna has an incredible creative mind, in terms of shaping, cultivating and transforming her public image. The way I see it, her success has a lot to do with the public's fascination with her as a person, moreso than her music. I'm fine with giving credit for her accomplishments strictly as a performer, but it won't carry her too far in the rankings among the giants that have already been selected.

 
12.14 Friedrich Nietzsche, Philosopher
Is it wrong that everything I know about Nietzsche I learned from watching A Fish Called Wanda?
Apes don't read Nietzsche. One of the greatest comic performances of all time.

I don't really recall a lot of his work, I tend to confuse him and Maciavelli. But it seems to me that between the two and Marx they've caused an awful lot of misery.
Do you really think he "caused" misery? Or just brought people to the light, i.e. that there is a lot more misery than was acknowledged, and its sources were not getting appropriate blame for it?
 
Fair enough. And I'm not confusing the two, I guess I just see a clear separation between composers and then the performers that he is judging. You are right though, it's all subjective.
:goodposting:Might as well just switch her to Celebrity. You've got the open slot, and she should score well.
Yeah, as a celebrity, she's a very valid pick. As a performer........no, not really. Her actual music skills are very lacking compared to sooo many others.
 
12.14 Friedrich Nietzsche, Philosopher
Is it wrong that everything I know about Nietzsche I learned from watching A Fish Called Wanda?
Apes don't read Nietzsche. One of the greatest comic performances of all time.

I don't really recall a lot of his work, I tend to confuse him and Maciavelli. But it seems to me that between the two and Marx they've caused an awful lot of misery.
Do you really think he "caused" misery? Or just brought people to the light, i.e. that there is a lot more misery than was acknowledged, and its sources were not getting appropriate blame for it?
Caused is probably the wrong word. The trio seem to me to be the origin of and/or justification for a lot of misery based on people's interpretations.
 
I'm going Painter here. If you search the 100 greatest paintings on google - and I have a couple times because painting is just not something I really care for - there are always a few names that pop up multiple times. Most have already been drafted. I'm taking one of the few remaining for he is a giant in the field and an inspiration to some already picked.

I select Titian He was the leading painter of the 16th-century Venetian school of the Italian Renaissance. He was born in Pieve di Cadore, near Belluno (in Veneto), in the Republic of Venice.

His biography is long so here is a link to his many paintings. I even recognize some of them. He is simply one of the most influential painters in history for the style, and the leader of the Venitian school.

 
i actually think the good Uncle is going too far in giving credit where credit is not due. madonna's musicianship?!?! her 1st half dozen albums had ghost singers for the tough notes. she's an immense cultural figure (with mae west & marilyn, she completes the trifecta of the three most important women to the evolution of female personal indentity) but, musically, she's Hulk Hogan (ssshshsh - i dont think Larry reads these inbtween posts anyway).
:confused:
 
Calvin is an iffy pick for me...

I mean, I'm not even sure where I'd rank him in terms of "reformers" or Christianity, but to rank him in terms of "top 20 religious figures of all time" is really tough...

(I want to say Luther is in a similar situation, but I think Luther is pretty much the #1 reformer and the one who first moved to get the Bible back in the hands of the masses, which makes him important... But still not sure how he'd rank compared to people like Jesus, Paul, Mohammad, etc.)
I know you're not going to believe this, Larry, but in many ways Jean Calvin is more influential a religious figure than Jesus of Nazareth. A very good argument could be made that much of the attributes of the Protestant church in America is more due to the actions of this man than to anything Jesus ever preached.
This might be one of the most preposterously stupid statements I've ever read on this board. And that's saying something.
Really? Did you read Tim's follow-up where he explained that statement? I thought it was spot on.
I did and it doesn't matter. You can't explain away the fact that without Jesus there is no Jean Calvin. Jesus is the basis of the Protestant church that Tim says Calvin was so instrumental in. Basis of the religion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person who spread the word as far as being a "Religious Figure."ETA: I also don't want to start another huge debate on this today. I just wanted to throw in my :2cents: . I understand pretty much everyone's opinion on this is made up already and they won't be swayed by another argument.
The Institutes of the Christian Religion, Jean Calvin's magnum opus forms the basis of the Presbyterian and Reformed branch of Protestantism. They are are still studied today by theologins of those faiths. As a Presbyterian I studied them back in the day.Tim is right that Calvin is an extremely important figure in the Reformation and was an intellectual mentor to those men who founded Reformed churches in the Low Countries, Scotland and parts of France, and them immigrated to the American colonies.

Where Calvinism gets a bad rap is the emphasis on "predestination" which isn't that everything in your life is planned by God before birth, but by it's rejection that you could buy your way into heaven by the purchase of "indulgences" or "good works" as was the practice of the Catholic Church. Calvin taught that some people are "saved" and will go to heaven before they are born, regardless of what they do with their lives. Others are doomed to Hell, again before they do anything. It's a lot more complicated than this, but the concept of the "elect of God" or those who will be saved is central to pure Calvinist thought. That's also why Presbyterian churches are not "pure Calvinst" and get less pure by the minute.

 
Calvin is an iffy pick for me...

I mean, I'm not even sure where I'd rank him in terms of "reformers" or Christianity, but to rank him in terms of "top 20 religious figures of all time" is really tough...

(I want to say Luther is in a similar situation, but I think Luther is pretty much the #1 reformer and the one who first moved to get the Bible back in the hands of the masses, which makes him important... But still not sure how he'd rank compared to people like Jesus, Paul, Mohammad, etc.)
I know you're not going to believe this, Larry, but in many ways Jean Calvin is more influential a religious figure than Jesus of Nazareth. A very good argument could be made that much of the attributes of the Protestant church in America is more due to the actions of this man than to anything Jesus ever preached.
This might be one of the most preposterously stupid statements I've ever read on this board. And that's saying something.
Really? Did you read Tim's follow-up where he explained that statement? I thought it was spot on.
I did and it doesn't matter. You can't explain away the fact that without Jesus there is no Jean Calvin. Jesus is the basis of the Protestant church that Tim says Calvin was so instrumental in. Basis of the religion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person who spread the word as far as being a "Religious Figure."ETA: I also don't want to start another huge debate on this today. I just wanted to throw in my :2cents: . I understand pretty much everyone's opinion on this is made up already and they won't be swayed by another argument.
There wasn't really a huge debate on it yesterday. The huge debate was about the validity of the Bible as a historical source. So, feel free to continue on this debate, since it actually has merit.
 
Ok, so...... good pick Yankee23fan!

Why thank you yankee23fan.

Oh, don't mention it. It was outstanding. Solid. Of course, not the best in the category, but the best available and easily a top 10 in the field.

Oh, you are too kind self.

I know I know.

Well, um, I'm going downtown and you're probably going uptown, so.....

No, no. I have time. Took the day off. Where you going?

Well, I have clients, then a meeting and then I'm traveling a little, so you know, moving around a lot, not to much time to talk and all that, but it was nice to see you.

I have my own car. Maybe I can follow you.

Oh, well, I'm pretty sure that isn't allowed in this state, so, you know. Member of the bar and all that.

I didn't know that.

Yup, true. Gotta go, Bye.

 
I'm going Painter here. If you search the 100 greatest paintings on google - and I have a couple times because painting is just not something I really care for - there are always a few names that pop up multiple times. Most have already been drafted. I'm taking one of the few remaining for he is a giant in the field and an inspiration to some already picked.

I select Titian
Very influential figure for later artists Velázquez and another highly rated (undrafted) artist, so he is extremely important for this.Still...

:popcorn:

...with three-four giants still on the board.

This draft is a real headshaker in the lit and painting categories.

Given the competition, I think you'll do fine with this one, Yankee.

 
The Institutes of the Christian Religion, Jean Calvin's magnum opus forms the basis of the Presbyterian and Reformed branch of Protestantism. They are are still studied today by theologins of those faiths. As a Presbyterian I studied them back in the day.

Tim is right that Calvin is an extremely important figure in the Reformation and was an intellectual mentor to those men who founded Reformed churches in the Low Countries, Scotland and parts of France, and them immigrated to the American colonies.

Where Calvinism gets a bad rap is the emphasis on "predestination" which isn't that everything in your life is planned by God before birth, but by it's rejection that you could buy your way into heaven by the purchase of "indulgences" or "good works" as was the practice of the Catholic Church. Calvin taught that some people are "saved" and will go to heaven before they are born, regardless of what they do with their lives. Others are doomed to Hell, again before they do anything. It's a lot more complicated than this, but the concept of the "elect of God" or those who will be saved is central to pure Calvinist thought. That's also why Presbyterian churches are not "pure Calvinst" and get less pure by the minute.
I think this is actually an argument in my favor. So the churches that Calvin's opus forms the basis of are getting less pure to the opus by the minute? Interesting. Pretty sure all of them still believe strongly about Jesus's role though.
 
I'm going Painter here. If you search the 100 greatest paintings on google - and I have a couple times because painting is just not something I really care for - there are always a few names that pop up multiple times. Most have already been drafted. I'm taking one of the few remaining for he is a giant in the field and an inspiration to some already picked.

I select Titian
Very influential figure for later artists Velázquez and another highly rated (undrafted) artist, so he is extremely important for this.Still...

:shrug:

...with three-four giants still on the board.
That's a little harsh for Titian.
 
This is a shot in the dark because I am hung up on a few different people. A couple of my picks went earlier in Round 8, hence the thinking here. It is not what you know but what you are known for and this guy is at least known for something. I would go a different route but I am not sure, and it has not been brought up, if teams could work for this category. Oh well I guess. From Winter, to Spring, to Summer, to Fall, the violin is the best sounding of them all. Mario Kart takes:

9.01 - Antonio Vivaldi - Composer
Boy I really think this is a good value pick. Sixth composer off the board, and Four Seasons is arguably second to Beethoven's Fifth in terms of familiarity to uninitiated listeners of classical music.Not sure where it falls with the judge, but this is going to do great in the popular vote.
I dunno... Wagner's The Ride of the Valkyries is pretty familiar too.
This would make for a good poll - I nominate my pick, Tchaikovsky's Piano Concerto 1
 
The Institutes of the Christian Religion, Jean Calvin's magnum opus forms the basis of the Presbyterian and Reformed branch of Protestantism. They are are still studied today by theologins of those faiths. As a Presbyterian I studied them back in the day.

Tim is right that Calvin is an extremely important figure in the Reformation and was an intellectual mentor to those men who founded Reformed churches in the Low Countries, Scotland and parts of France, and them immigrated to the American colonies.

Where Calvinism gets a bad rap is the emphasis on "predestination" which isn't that everything in your life is planned by God before birth, but by it's rejection that you could buy your way into heaven by the purchase of "indulgences" or "good works" as was the practice of the Catholic Church. Calvin taught that some people are "saved" and will go to heaven before they are born, regardless of what they do with their lives. Others are doomed to Hell, again before they do anything. It's a lot more complicated than this, but the concept of the "elect of God" or those who will be saved is central to pure Calvinist thought. That's also why Presbyterian churches are not "pure Calvinst" and get less pure by the minute.
I think this is actually an argument in my favor. So the churches that Calvin's opus forms the basis of are getting less pure to the opus by the minute? Interesting. Pretty sure all of them still believe strongly about Jesus's role though.
Well, that is usually the case. Any ideology will change and evolve over the years. Adam Smith style capitalism doesn't exist nowadays, despire that Yankee might wish, so why should pure Calvinism.Presbyteriam churches do still believe in the Devinity of Jesus, though.

 
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Man I wish this thing would move along. I have a pick I'm really excited to make...

As for Calvin, I think rodg12 is missing the point that Tim tried to make.

His premise, which he stated very clearly, was that if we actually followed Jesus's ideas about how to live, we would be living in a quasi-Communist society. Instead, we live in a Capitalistic society, and this is very much due to the ideas that Calvin set forth.

 
12.17 FUBAR - Next Selection, on the clock until 3:48 p.m. EST

12.18 Arsenal of Doom - On Deck

12.19 Larry Boy 44 - In The Hole

12.20 Mario Kart

13.01 Mario Kart

13.02 Larry Boy 44

13.03 Arsenal of Doom

13.04 FUBAR

 
Man I wish this thing would move along. I have a pick I'm really excited to make... As for Calvin, I think rodg12 is missing the point that Tim tried to make.His premise, which he stated very clearly, was that if we actually followed Jesus's ideas about how to live, we would be living in a quasi-Communist society. Instead, we live in a Capitalistic society, and this is very much due to the ideas that Calvin set forth.
I disagree with that premise and think a communist society where everyone is treated equally in liue of with liberty is very much at odds with Christ's message and the personal journey we all make with God. In fact, that personal journey would be a problem in a communist state. The fact is that form of government doesn't matter at all. It's how the person, in their journey with Christ, lives their life. Give to Caeser what is Caeser's and all that. The kings of this world have no place in my eternity and therefore I could care less about their place in my short stay here.
 
The Institutes of the Christian Religion, Jean Calvin's magnum opus forms the basis of the Presbyterian and Reformed branch of Protestantism. They are are still studied today by theologins of those faiths. As a Presbyterian I studied them back in the day.

Tim is right that Calvin is an extremely important figure in the Reformation and was an intellectual mentor to those men who founded Reformed churches in the Low Countries, Scotland and parts of France, and them immigrated to the American colonies.

Where Calvinism gets a bad rap is the emphasis on "predestination" which isn't that everything in your life is planned by God before birth, but by it's rejection that you could buy your way into heaven by the purchase of "indulgences" or "good works" as was the practice of the Catholic Church. Calvin taught that some people are "saved" and will go to heaven before they are born, regardless of what they do with their lives. Others are doomed to Hell, again before they do anything. It's a lot more complicated than this, but the concept of the "elect of God" or those who will be saved is central to pure Calvinist thought. That's also why Presbyterian churches are not "pure Calvinst" and get less pure by the minute.
I think this is actually an argument in my favor. So the churches that Calvin's opus forms the basis of are getting less pure to the opus by the minute? Interesting. Pretty sure all of them still believe strongly about Jesus's role though.
Well, that is usually the case. Any ideology will change and evolve over the years. Adam Smith style capitalism doesn't exist nowadays, despire that Yankee might wish, so why should pure Calvinism.Presbyteriam churches do still believe in the Devinity of Jesus, though.
My wish to make the FAIR TAX! the invisible hand.
 
I'm going Painter here. If you search the 100 greatest paintings on google - and I have a couple times because painting is just not something I really care for - there are always a few names that pop up multiple times. Most have already been drafted. I'm taking one of the few remaining for he is a giant in the field and an inspiration to some already picked.

I select Titian
Very influential figure for later artists Velázquez and another highly rated (undrafted) artist, so he is extremely important for this.Still...

:X

...with three-four giants still on the board.
That's a little harsh for Titian.
Well, you know, opinions and noses, we all have one. :confused:

It was more about the dynamics of the draft than Titian.

Yankee and I were just chatting on PM after the pick, he took the best one of the three he was looking at, and I think it will do well of the artists selected.

I just can't believe the hugely influential important artists who are getting overlooked round after round.

:confused:

 
Are Calvin & Hobbes on the same team? there should be a bonus if they are....
Unfortunately no. That would be awesome, though. I think for this one instance, we should allow trades. Whoever has Hobbes, Calvin is on the market... What ya got?
 
This is a shot in the dark because I am hung up on a few different people. A couple of my picks went earlier in Round 8, hence the thinking here. It is not what you know but what you are known for and this guy is at least known for something. I would go a different route but I am not sure, and it has not been brought up, if teams could work for this category. Oh well I guess. From Winter, to Spring, to Summer, to Fall, the violin is the best sounding of them all. Mario Kart takes:

9.01 - Antonio Vivaldi - Composer
Boy I really think this is a good value pick. Sixth composer off the board, and Four Seasons is arguably second to Beethoven's Fifth in terms of familiarity to uninitiated listeners of classical music.Not sure where it falls with the judge, but this is going to do great in the popular vote.
I dunno... Wagner's The Ride of the Valkyries is pretty familiar too.
This would make for a good poll - I nominate my pick, Tchaikovsky's Piano Concerto 1
Canon to left of them, Canon to right of them, Canon in front of them...
 
Man I wish this thing would move along. I have a pick I'm really excited to make... As for Calvin, I think rodg12 is missing the point that Tim tried to make.His premise, which he stated very clearly, was that if we actually followed Jesus's ideas about how to live, we would be living in a quasi-Communist society. Instead, we live in a Capitalistic society, and this is very much due to the ideas that Calvin set forth.
I disagree with that premise and think a communist society where everyone is treated equally in liue of with liberty is very much at odds with Christ's message and the personal journey we all make with God. In fact, that personal journey would be a problem in a communist state. The fact is that form of government doesn't matter at all. It's how the person, in their journey with Christ, lives their life. Give to Caeser what is Caeser's and all that. The kings of this world have no place in my eternity and therefore I could care less about their place in my short stay here.
Couldn't have said it better myself. I don't agree with Tim's premise that Jesus's teachings would have lead to a communist state.Yank - did you really mean that last statement that way? I'm thinking you meant more along the lines of 'stature' instead of 'place.'
 
Ok, so...... good pick Yankee23fan!Why thank you yankee23fan.Oh, don't mention it. It was outstanding. Solid. Of course, not the best in the category, but the best available and easily a top 10 in the field.Oh, you are too kind self.I know I know.Well, um, I'm going downtown and you're probably going uptown, so.....No, no. I have time. Took the day off. Where you going?Well, I have clients, then a meeting and then I'm traveling a little, so you know, moving around a lot, not to much time to talk and all that, but it was nice to see you.I have my own car. Maybe I can follow you.Oh, well, I'm pretty sure that isn't allowed in this state, so, you know. Member of the bar and all that. I didn't know that.Yup, true. Gotta go, Bye.
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Man I wish this thing would move along. I have a pick I'm really excited to make... As for Calvin, I think rodg12 is missing the point that Tim tried to make.His premise, which he stated very clearly, was that if we actually followed Jesus's ideas about how to live, we would be living in a quasi-Communist society. Instead, we live in a Capitalistic society, and this is very much due to the ideas that Calvin set forth.
I disagree with that premise and think a communist society where everyone is treated equally in liue of with liberty is very much at odds with Christ's message and the personal journey we all make with God. In fact, that personal journey would be a problem in a communist state. The fact is that form of government doesn't matter at all. It's how the person, in their journey with Christ, lives their life. Give to Caeser what is Caeser's and all that. The kings of this world have no place in my eternity and therefore I could care less about their place in my short stay here.
Couldn't have said it better myself. I don't agree with Tim's premise that Jesus's teachings would have lead to a communist state.Yank - did you really mean that last statement that way? I'm thinking you meant more along the lines of 'stature' instead of 'place.'
Yeah that's what I meant. I am nothing close to an anarchist.
 
Ok, so...... good pick Yankee23fan!

Why thank you yankee23fan.

Oh, don't mention it. It was outstanding. Solid. Of course, not the best in the category, but the best available and easily a top 10 in the field.

Oh, you are too kind self.

I know I know.

Well, um, I'm going downtown and you're probably going uptown, so.....

No, no. I have time. Took the day off. Where you going?

Well, I have clients, then a meeting and then I'm traveling a little, so you know, moving around a lot, not to much time to talk and all that, but it was nice to see you.

I have my own car. Maybe I can follow you.

Oh, well, I'm pretty sure that isn't allowed in this state, so, you know. Member of the bar and all that.

I didn't know that.

Yup, true. Gotta go, Bye.
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Thank you I've been doing good work in both drafts that is going unnoticed.

 
Ok, so...... good pick Yankee23fan!

Why thank you yankee23fan.

Oh, don't mention it. It was outstanding. Solid. Of course, not the best in the category, but the best available and easily a top 10 in the field.

Oh, you are too kind self.

I know I know.

Well, um, I'm going downtown and you're probably going uptown, so.....

No, no. I have time. Took the day off. Where you going?

Well, I have clients, then a meeting and then I'm traveling a little, so you know, moving around a lot, not to much time to talk and all that, but it was nice to see you.

I have my own car. Maybe I can follow you.

Oh, well, I'm pretty sure that isn't allowed in this state, so, you know. Member of the bar and all that.

I didn't know that.

Yup, true. Gotta go, Bye.
:thumbup: This post didn't get enough (any) love
Thank you I've been doing good work in both drafts that is going unnoticed.
It's kind of easy to fly underneath the radar with all the noise lately.
 
Ok, so...... good pick Yankee23fan!

Why thank you yankee23fan.

Oh, don't mention it. It was outstanding. Solid. Of course, not the best in the category, but the best available and easily a top 10 in the field.

Oh, you are too kind self.

I know I know.

Well, um, I'm going downtown and you're probably going uptown, so.....

No, no. I have time. Took the day off. Where you going?

Well, I have clients, then a meeting and then I'm traveling a little, so you know, moving around a lot, not to much time to talk and all that, but it was nice to see you.

I have my own car. Maybe I can follow you.

Oh, well, I'm pretty sure that isn't allowed in this state, so, you know. Member of the bar and all that.

I didn't know that.

Yup, true. Gotta go, Bye.
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Thank you I've been doing good work in both drafts that is going unnoticed.
It's kind of easy to fly underneath the radar with all the noise lately.
Frankly, I don't think Yankee23 Fan ever existed; the evidence is very unreliable.
 
Ok, so...... good pick Yankee23fan!

Why thank you yankee23fan.

Oh, don't mention it. It was outstanding. Solid. Of course, not the best in the category, but the best available and easily a top 10 in the field.

Oh, you are too kind self.

I know I know.

Well, um, I'm going downtown and you're probably going uptown, so.....

No, no. I have time. Took the day off. Where you going?

Well, I have clients, then a meeting and then I'm traveling a little, so you know, moving around a lot, not to much time to talk and all that, but it was nice to see you.

I have my own car. Maybe I can follow you.

Oh, well, I'm pretty sure that isn't allowed in this state, so, you know. Member of the bar and all that.

I didn't know that.

Yup, true. Gotta go, Bye.
:shark: This post didn't get enough (any) love
Thank you I've been doing good work in both drafts that is going unnoticed.
It's kind of easy to fly underneath the radar with all the noise lately.
Frankly, I don't think Yankee23 Fan ever existed; the evidence is very unreliable.
Well he quoted the bible, I don't know how you can say that...He must have existed to have known the bible existed lol...

You keep missing my point lol...

 
Ok, so...... good pick Yankee23fan!

Why thank you yankee23fan.

Oh, don't mention it. It was outstanding. Solid. Of course, not the best in the category, but the best available and easily a top 10 in the field.

Oh, you are too kind self.

I know I know.

Well, um, I'm going downtown and you're probably going uptown, so.....

No, no. I have time. Took the day off. Where you going?

Well, I have clients, then a meeting and then I'm traveling a little, so you know, moving around a lot, not to much time to talk and all that, but it was nice to see you.

I have my own car. Maybe I can follow you.

Oh, well, I'm pretty sure that isn't allowed in this state, so, you know. Member of the bar and all that.

I didn't know that.

Yup, true. Gotta go, Bye.
:shark: This post didn't get enough (any) love
Thank you I've been doing good work in both drafts that is going unnoticed.
It's kind of easy to fly underneath the radar with all the noise lately.
Frankly, I don't think Yankee23 Fan ever existed; the evidence is very unreliable.
You have an excellent point. Afterall, he is only known through the writings of Yankee23Fan, hardly a reliable source.
 
Ok, so...... good pick Yankee23fan!

Why thank you yankee23fan.

Oh, don't mention it. It was outstanding. Solid. Of course, not the best in the category, but the best available and easily a top 10 in the field.

Oh, you are too kind self.

I know I know.

Well, um, I'm going downtown and you're probably going uptown, so.....

No, no. I have time. Took the day off. Where you going?

Well, I have clients, then a meeting and then I'm traveling a little, so you know, moving around a lot, not to much time to talk and all that, but it was nice to see you.

I have my own car. Maybe I can follow you.

Oh, well, I'm pretty sure that isn't allowed in this state, so, you know. Member of the bar and all that.

I didn't know that.

Yup, true. Gotta go, Bye.
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Thank you I've been doing good work in both drafts that is going unnoticed.
The post of the effing draft was your tale about Andy D and his amazing technicolor coat, made my sides hurt....and I don't think more than three people read it because it was in the middle of one of LB's religion rants.
 
The post of the effing draft was your tale about Andy D and his amazing technicolor coat, made my sides hurt....and I don't think more than three people read it because it was in the middle of one of LB's religion rants.
like I said... where were your complaints with Moses or Abraham? Where are your complaints about Homer and Sun Tzu? Why single out the Bible?
Andy asked me never to tell, but the fact is that he had a really really nice mutlicolored coat that he loved when he was younger and his brothers beat him up and took it from him and left him at an unlce's house where he was forced to watch Jimmy Carter speeches.I'm sorry Andy. I know you didn't want anyone else to know that. But it's out there now. You can heal and move on.
 

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