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Would of Rodgers been given a concussion Test... (1 Viewer)

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I think the NFL and Packer Organization dropped the ball in looking out for a players health and well-being in order to be the starting QB in the most important game of his career and the organizations.

We all know if you are diagnosed with a 3rd concussion in an NFL Season you are done for the remainder of the year. Since Rodgers had 2 already neither him nor the organization wanted to find out if he had a 3rd.

NFL in the interest of player safety should have a 3rd party physician unaffiliated with the NFL or Organization administer a concussion test to any player involved in a helmet to helmet hit that draws a 15 yard Personal foul penalty. The player receiving the hit has to come out after the hit and be administered a concussion test if he has symptoms he will then not be allowed to re-enter the game. If he does not have symptoms he can go back into the game.

That is why we have rules in place and I think the NFL and Packers are playing with a man's life and well-being if he did suffer a concussion in order to have him available for the Super Bowl.

 
I think the NFL and Packer Organization dropped the ball in looking out for a players health and well-being in order to be the starting QB in the most important game of his career and the organizations.

We all know if you are diagnosed with a 3rd concussion in an NFL Season you are done for the remainder of the year. Since Rodgers had 2 already neither him nor the organization wanted to find out if he had a 3rd.

NFL in the interest of player safety should have a 3rd party physician unaffiliated with the NFL or Organization administer a concussion test to any player involved in a helmet to helmet hit that draws a 15 yard Personal foul penalty. The player receiving the hit has to come out after the hit and be administered a concussion test if he has symptoms he will then not be allowed to re-enter the game. If he does not have symptoms he can go back into the game.

That is why we have rules in place and I think the NFL and Packers are playing with a man's life and well-being if he did suffer a concussion in order to have him available for the Super Bowl.
So any time you hit a guy in the head, he is removed from the game immediately to be administered a battery of tests? What could possibly go wrong with that? It would be like head-tag out there.
 
Not all hits are given 15 yard penalties. How do we not know that Rodgers didn't suffer a concussion he said he felt woozy out there but after the game he felt fine.

 
Not all hits are given 15 yard penalties. How do we not know that Rodgers didn't suffer a concussion he said he felt woozy out there but after the game he felt fine.
His point is that any team could intentionally lead with the helmet to draw the personal foul and therefore get the star player pulled from the game for as long as it took to clear the test. Or are you are proposing stopping play for 15 minutes while the concussion test is administered? The only other way your proposal could work is if they started ejecting guys for helmet-to-helmet hits.
 
Not all hits are given 15 yard penalties. How do we not know that Rodgers didn't suffer a concussion he said he felt woozy out there but after the game he felt fine.
and not all hits that receive a 15yd penalty are enough to cause a concussion
 
I think the NFL and Packer Organization dropped the ball in looking out for a players health and well-being in order to be the starting QB in the most important game of his career and the organizations.We all know if you are diagnosed with a 3rd concussion in an NFL Season you are done for the remainder of the year. Since Rodgers had 2 already neither him nor the organization wanted to find out if he had a 3rd.NFL in the interest of player safety should have a 3rd party physician unaffiliated with the NFL or Organization administer a concussion test to any player involved in a helmet to helmet hit that draws a 15 yard Personal foul penalty. The player receiving the hit has to come out after the hit and be administered a concussion test if he has symptoms he will then not be allowed to re-enter the game. If he does not have symptoms he can go back into the game.That is why we have rules in place and I think the NFL and Packers are playing with a man's life and well-being if he did suffer a concussion in order to have him available for the Super Bowl.
It was probably less about wanting him for the Superbowl as not wanting to have to kick him out of the team photo if he got IR'd.
 
Not all hits are given 15 yard penalties. How do we not know that Rodgers didn't suffer a concussion he said he felt woozy out there but after the game he felt fine.
His point is that any team could intentionally lead with the helmet to draw the personal foul and therefore get the star player pulled from the game for as long as it took to clear the test. Or are you are proposing stopping play for 15 minutes while the concussion test is administered? The only other way your proposal could work is if they started ejecting guys for helmet-to-helmet hits.
This is where we're headed.
 
Not all hits are given 15 yard penalties. How do we not know that Rodgers didn't suffer a concussion he said he felt woozy out there but after the game he felt fine.
and not all hits that receive a 15yd penalty are enough to cause a concussion
I hadn't heard that Rogers commented on feeling woozy, but if this is true then he did in fact have a concussion. Call it slight, but current research on concussions includes getting "dinged" and feeling a little off. Beyond that is the reason for the testing - to take it out of the hands of the player to determine whether of not he is "fine". Professional, college and HS rosters are littered with players who feel "fine" after the shot to the head and yet actually remain concussed.
 
The point I am trying to say is that if Aaron Rodgers was visibly shaken up and stumbling around after that Peppers hit. The PACKERS organization would of still not given him a Concussion Test either during the game or after the game because if he failed it he would of been done for the season.

Austin Collie suffered 3 in a 7 week period. Collie also accounted for 1/2 of the 6 total concussions the Colts reported this year.

 
The point I am trying to say is that if Aaron Rodgers was visibly shaken up and stumbling around after that Peppers hit. The PACKERS organization would of still not given him a Concussion Test either during the game or after the game because if he failed it he would of been done for the season.Austin Collie suffered 3 in a 7 week period. Collie also accounted for 1/2 of the 6 total concussions the Colts reported this year.
So you are mad he's playing your Steelers? I don't get it I guess.
 
The point I am trying to say is that if Aaron Rodgers was visibly shaken up and stumbling around after that Peppers hit. The PACKERS organization would of still not given him a Concussion Test either during the game or after the game because if he failed it he would of been done for the season.

Austin Collie suffered 3 in a 7 week period. Collie also accounted for 1/2 of the 6 total concussions the Colts reported this year.
I don't recall him stumbling around or visibly shaken up, other than a bloody lip. Video?
 
Pretty sure that clip shows that he is alert and unphased.Pretty sure too that there should have been two penalties; the other for the blow to the head by the other Bear.

 
Marinelli comes off as the dumb ### he is. How do you even argue that call? How do you even have a job when you are the 0-16 coach?
 
If he says he isn't fazed you should believe him. His body was shaken but he said his head was fine. Test him but trust him-he is the patient after all.

 
The point I am trying to say is that if Aaron Rodgers was visibly shaken up and stumbling around after that Peppers hit. The PACKERS organization would of still not given him a Concussion Test either during the game or after the game because if he failed it he would of been done for the season.Austin Collie suffered 3 in a 7 week period. Collie also accounted for 1/2 of the 6 total concussions the Colts reported this year.
And you know this corruption of NFL rules how?
 
Marinelli's point (and if you watch the video - he has a point, not saying I agree 100%) was that Peppers, just as he gets to Rodgers, turns his head down and to the right, attempting to avoid Rodgers' head. It is Rodgers' own act of throwing, that causes him to open up, thus turning his head suddenly right into Peppers. The point Marinelli was trying to make was that Peppers actually tried to avoid head-to-head contact, but the quickness of Rodgers' sudden head turn made it impossible. I don't have a problem with the flag in real time. I do think the fine was bogus, as you can clearly see in slo-mo that Peppers is attempting to turn away from Rodgers' head.

BTW, Marenelli's 0-16 season was with Matt Millen's players. His defense this season was 4th overall this season. HTH.

 
I think the NFL and Packer Organization dropped the ball in looking out for a players health and well-being in order to be the starting QB in the most important game of his career and the organizations.We all know if you are diagnosed with a 3rd concussion in an NFL Season you are done for the remainder of the year. Since Rodgers had 2 already neither him nor the organization wanted to find out if he had a 3rd.NFL in the interest of player safety should have a 3rd party physician unaffiliated with the NFL or Organization administer a concussion test to any player involved in a helmet to helmet hit that draws a 15 yard Personal foul penalty. The player receiving the hit has to come out after the hit and be administered a concussion test if he has symptoms he will then not be allowed to re-enter the game. If he does not have symptoms he can go back into the game.That is why we have rules in place and I think the NFL and Packers are playing with a man's life and well-being if he did suffer a concussion in order to have him available for the Super Bowl.
Of course.
 
What's with all the grammar police? :lmao:

"Would of, could of, should of"

Obviously saying "could of" is grammatically correct or this saying wouldn't exist. :goodposting:

 
"Had Rodgers been given a concussion Test" sounds OK to me...

Shame on the Packers? How about criticize the Bears for what was probably an intentional attempt to injure him? Didn't the Packers sit Rodgers against the Patriots late in the season, when every game was critical? Doesn't that demonstrate concern for the man first and the team second?

Are you a Steeler fan? If so, would you really want your opponent to be at such a disadvantage??? I want a competitive SB.

Also, I've never hear of a "3 and out" rule. I believe the rule is that you must be symptom free after a concussion to return.

 
Did I say it settles it? I just offered my opinion. It is also my opinion that you sound irrational and not very smart.

 
"Would have"
'Would have Rodgers been given a concussion test'This is how it should read?
Yes.But it's awkward.

"Would Rodgers have..." sounds better, but is less accurate. It's kind of a split infinitive. Which may or may not be 'wrong'.

Who gives a crap?
Can we just agree that any thread started with "would of" should just be deleted? I only clicked on it to see if anyone corrected it.
:lmao:
 
Did I say it settles it? I just offered my opinion. It is also my opinion that you sound irrational and not very smart.
I think saying someone looks like they have a concussion is not a very rational or smart statement.
Actually, just yesterday Francessa and Phil Simms were suggesting this very notion. From their comments, Rogers was clearly not the same QB after that hit and it was either due to (a) another concussion or (b) he was just plain shaken up. I'm not saying that you should feel confident in your intelligence when those two agree with you, but the point has support from the talking heads in the media.
 
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The point I am trying to say is that if Aaron Rodgers was visibly shaken up and stumbling around after that Peppers hit. The PACKERS organization would of still not given him a Concussion Test either during the game or after the game because if he failed it he would of been done for the season.Austin Collie suffered 3 in a 7 week period. Collie also accounted for 1/2 of the 6 total concussions the Colts reported this year.
Despite the fact that nothing you've said up to this point--title included--makes any sense, I'll ask, anyway...What on earth does Collie's 3 concussions have to do with Rodgers? Collie, incidentally was given THE CONCUSSION TEST. And, just a pointer for you in the next go-around: if you want to sound a little less like you don't know what you're talking about, you wouldn't capitalize "Concussion Test", and you would refer to what happens as "a series of neurologic and cognitive exams." There is no single concussion test.
 
This thread is chock full of scholars..

The thread is about whether or not Rodgers should have been tested, I think that's obvious to everyone who enters. Is there reason for such belittling?

Some people can't walk with elbows high unless they put someone else down first..

I agree that there could have been reason for testing but I wouldn't blame anyone for sweeping it under the carpet given the circumstances. I thought he was going to have to be checked out after that hit as well when I watched real time, I thought to myself "he's a tough SOB"... But now that I look back, it was likely that they just didn't want to risk losing him for the SB..

BTW... GO PACKERS!!

 
Instinctive said:
If Rodgers is OK with it, who cares?
I really hope this is sarcasm.
I hope to hell it isn't. He's a grown man who can make his own decisions, medically. He knows what could happen.
Sounds great....except for the fact that there are league rules in place that are supposed to be enforced for the protection of the players. FYI - after a concussion, decision making ability is impaired. So allowing the player make a decision about whether or not to keep playing after he may have sufferred a concussion, which might affect his ability to make a decision, is really pretty asinine. It's akin to asking a drunk person if they think they are okay to drive themselves home.
 
"Would have"
'Would have Rodgers been given a concussion test'This is how it should read?
Yes.But it's awkward."Would Rodgers have..." sounds better, but is less accurate. It's kind of a split infinitive. Which may or may not be 'wrong'.Who gives a crap?
Can we just agree that any thread started with "would of" should just be deleted? I only clicked on it to see if anyone corrected it.
Agreed. I started to read the title and gave up several times over the course of the last day or so, skimming past a thread that could lead to useful discussion. Fix the damn title OP.
 
"Would have"
'Would have Rodgers been given a concussion test'This is how it should read?
Yes.But it's awkward."Would Rodgers have..." sounds better, but is less accurate. It's kind of a split infinitive. Which may or may not be 'wrong'.Who gives a crap?
Can we just agree that any thread started with "would of" should just be deleted? I only clicked on it to see if anyone corrected it.
Agreed. I started to read the title and gave up several times over the course of the last day or so, skimming past a thread that could lead to useful discussion. Fix the damn title OP.
:goodposting: Would of the OP fixed the title..., If he wouldn't have generated more sincere discussion?
 

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