Would you quit a league over this? (1 Viewer)

[shader]

Hey Home alone boy. It sounds like YOU take fantasy football way too seriously. You're all sad and mopey because you made a ######ed decision to not have a backup at QB. In every league I've ever been in, you make sure you have backups at QB.

Sounds like you weren't prepared and now you're trying to play the "blame game" and claim you aren't that interested in fantasy football and it doesn't mean that much to you.

Extremely annoying. If you are in a group of friends, I hope they make fun of you left and right.

 

[Tom Servo]

Dude --

Here's how to take this SP curb-stomping to heart:

1) I'm guessing you've been here before; why hide behind an alias? Post under your primary ID.

2) Plan beyond the end of your nose. Keeping an open roster spot for no apparent reason is just foolish.

3) The WW is not your extended bench. They're called FREE agents for a reason.

4) Anticipate your league-mates will act like dbags...ESPECIALLY with $200 entry fees on the line. I'm guessing your past behavior isn't spotless; in fact, I'm guessing you're upset because they GOT you before you got them.

5) Stop whining on a FF message board. Sympathy can be found in the dictionary, but not here.

6) Stop asking one-sided poll questions.

7) Relatedly, stop switching poll responses when the vote goes lopsidedly against you.

8) Most importantly, STOP with all references to your mom's bathroom and Maxim magazine.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

I haven't read the whole thread. But in response to those who've alleged collusion: I don't see it.

In fantasy football, like in antitrust law, cooperation is not always barred. Unlawful cooperation -- generally anti-competitive cooperation -- is barred.

If I intentionally make my team worse in order to make yours better, it's not fair to the rest of the league. They in effect have to face both of our teams at once when they play yours. Making my team worse for that reason is anti-competitive.

But in scooping up the excess QBs, even by agreement, nobody is making another team better with their "sacrifice." Nobody is making you effectively play two teams at once.

Picking up players so that another team can't have them is a valid strategy, IMO, whether one team does it or five.

 

[cjack]

I haven't read the whole thread. But in response to those who've alleged collusion: I don't see it.

In fantasy football, like in antitrust law, cooperation is not always barred. Unlawful cooperation -- generally anti-competitive cooperation -- is barred.

If I intentionally make my team worse in order to make yours better, it's not fair to the rest of the league. They in effect have to face both of our teams at once when they play yours. Making my team worse for that reason is anti-competitive.

But in scooping up the excess QBs, even by agreement, nobody is making another team better with their "sacrifice." Nobody is making you effectively play two teams at once.

Picking up players so that another team can't have them is a valid strategy, IMO, whether one team does it or five.

That's an excellent point Maurile. I considered touching on that yesterday, but it was much more fun to just ridicule the original poster.

 

[Oh Yes!]

black taco

 

[trader jake]

Am I understanding correctly that you have huge rosters, you usually keep one roster spot open, and you don't have a back-up QB on your roster? Sorry, this is on you.The only reason I can figure that you didn't hold another QB is because you were more concerned with hoarding RBs and WRs. How is that any different?

One of the very first posts covered this one perfectly.

 

[soothsayer]

To the initial question, my observations of your behavior in the league this year are that you don't seem to be approaching it with the same gusto as you have in years past. Perhaps it is time to quit.

This post appears to be from someone in your league OP. In fact it's the second one (that I can recall) telling you all you need to know - they don't want you in the league going forward. One totally owned you and said they weren't your friends and called you a sucker - and this one is more tactfully telling you you've sucked as an owner this year. Take the not so subtle hints from your leaguemates.

 

[Sinn Fein]

With large rosters and seemingly space on your roster - no excuse for not picking up a replacement QB for a known bye week.

Its almost as thought you were extending your roster by one - to keep you back-up QB on the practice squad (waiver wire) without having to use up a roster spot for him until necessary.

I have not read the thread, but I can't believe that you would get worked up over 1 week - chalk it up as a learning experience and move on - if you have a good team, this will not impact your chances of making the playoffs and winning. If you have a marginal team, you probably were not going to win in any event.

 

[B-Deep]

With large rosters and seemingly space on your roster - no excuse for not picking up a replacement QB for a known bye week.Its almost as thought you were extending your roster by one - to keep you back-up QB on the practice squad (waiver wire) without having to use up a roster spot for him until necessary. I have not read the thread, but I can't believe that you would get worked up over 1 week - chalk it up as a learning experience and move on - if you have a good team, this will not impact your chances of making the playoffs and winning. If you have a marginal team, you probably were not going to win in any event.

i can TDOSS the thread for you

 

[JamesTheScot]

It's good to see the unemployed guys who are home during weekday after noons, and take fantasy football way too serious have found the time to respond that such tactics are perfectly kosher.

So, when you guys know your mom has to use the bathroom, do you run to it 1st and lock the door. When she knocks and asks you to hurry do you respond, "Mom, you should have planned ahead," and continue taking your time while reading thru the latest Maxim magazine?

Wow, that is pretty in depth. I don't think someone that hasn't experienced such events could make them up.

Obv I didn't expect everyone here to agree with me, after all this is a fantasy football message board, I'm sure 90% of the people here will do what ever it takes to win. Most normalpeople aren't going to get satisfaction, or fun out of beating a team that doesn't roster a QB.

shark move. And I would probably get MORE satisfaction out of it knowing that my shrewd FF skills directly contributed to the smack down of a friend at the hands of my own team. In an effort to not get too worked up about things, why don't you try to join the finer things club instead of playing FF. Its the most exclusive club in the office.

Nicely played, sir. Nicely played. <golf clap>

 

[Sinn Fein]

With large rosters and seemingly space on your roster - no excuse for not picking up a replacement QB for a known bye week.Its almost as thought you were extending your roster by one - to keep you back-up QB on the practice squad (waiver wire) without having to use up a roster spot for him until necessary. I have not read the thread, but I can't believe that you would get worked up over 1 week - chalk it up as a learning experience and move on - if you have a good team, this will not impact your chances of making the playoffs and winning. If you have a marginal team, you probably were not going to win in any event.

i can TDOSS the thread for you

should have a weinergate smilie imo

 

[GloryDaze]

This thread is awesome!

 

[home alone]

With large rosters and seemingly space on your roster - no excuse for not picking up a replacement QB for a known bye week.Its almost as thought you were extending your roster by one - to keep you back-up QB on the practice squad (waiver wire) without having to use up a roster spot for him until necessary.

Not even, it was more about what's the point of adding one of the 6-8 scrubs always avail if he's likely to get benched or hurt by the time I need him. Obv if there was a half descent QB on the waiver wire I would have rostered him, but all of the guys sucked.I find it hilarious that most of you think it's fun to play a guy that has no QB. Do you also wish car wrecks, or natural disasters that prevent your friends from being able to swap out bye week players? It's so fun playing a short handed team, but hey WIN BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY!

 

[MikeApf]

12 team league, $200 buy in, league has been around for maybe 8 years, all of us are friends.

We have huge rosters, due to using IDPs, and no limit at any position, half the time I keep an empty roster spot. Every week for as long as I've been in the league there are 6-8 free agent QBs on the waiver wire. With Brady's bye approaching I was content starting one of those guys, or possibly making a trade for someone's 3rd stringer. Well, last weekend, over a week before Brady's bye, 3 teams (including 1 team I play this week, and the commish) went ahead and picked up 7 or 8 of the free agent QBs, in an obvious attempt to prevent me from having a legitimate starter.

In the years I've been in the league there have been a couple opportunities to hoard, and it's probably crossed peoples minds, but it takes a low person to actually go and do it. I can say with certainty I would never do it; I mean if you were playing against someone who didn't care enough to replace players on a bye, it wouldn't be any fun. So, why would actively preventing him from replacing those players be considered good strategy?

At this point there are maybe 2 free agent Qbs available, and I could still trade for one, but I've really lost interest in the league. For a league of friends to stoop so low is embarassing.

Comparable to: Knowing your mom has to use the bathroom, running to it 1st and locking the door. When she knocks and asks you to hurry you respond, "Mom, you should have planned ahead," and continue taking your time while reading thru the latest Maxim magazine.

*Since everyone here is so literal, I have to explain that the above statement is a humorous analogy I took from this thread: http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...;p=9271827&

Wow, there are a lot of hard-### comments here that "it's a dog eat dog world; it's your own fault, etc." What these posters miss is that there is a BIG difference between your opponent picking up a free agent you want vs. several teams COLLUDING to do it. Generally speaking, one person doing something or getting the better end of a trade=ok. Collusion=not ok. No one would look at someone complaining about collusion at a poker table and tell them they should "just been more prepared." Jeeze!

As to whether you should quit or not, I agree with the comment that you just ask yourself if you are having fun. If you are, stay. If you are not, then go.

Good luck,

M

 

[footballnerd]

Hey Home alone boy. It sounds like YOU take fantasy football way too seriously. You're all sad and mopey because you made a ######ed decision to not have a backup at QB. In every league I've ever been in, you make sure you have backups at QB. Sounds like you weren't prepared and now you're trying to play the "blame game" and claim you aren't that interested in fantasy football and it doesn't mean that much to you.Extremely annoying. If you are in a group of friends, I hope they make fun of you left and right.

Seriously, anyone who plays in a $200 league is not just a casual Fantasy Football player.As for the actions of the league, if I was in a league and I saw a owner being a ######## and keeping an open roster spot with Brady's bye coming up, I'd do exactly the same as his league mates did just because this guy is asking for it.

 

[ditka...mike ditka]

How did I miss this thread yesterday???? ITS GOLD JERRY!! GOLD!!

Home alone is ignoring many of our questions and its hilarious. Then he comes back with insults and analogies that aren't funny and aren't correct.

If you have such large rosters, you should definitely have a 2 QB. How do you not? Actually, the more important question is "Why do you not?" You don't, because you are hoarding players at another position. Here is an example. In one of my leagues (10 teamer), I got very lucky with my RB selections. Its a 10 team league that I had first pick in, and I didn't "miss" on any of the first four RB's I took. I ended up wtih Adrian Peterson, Ronnie Brown, Ray Rice, and Cedric Benson. I also picked up Caddilac Williams. So I have 5 starter quality RB's, with 4 of them being studs. We only start two, and people in this league dont trade often. I will most likely never use Cedric Benson or Caddy now that bye weeks are over. But I am not dropping them, because other owners could used them, and possibly use them to beat me. Is that cheating on my part? What if some other owner was to drop someone like Ryan Grant. Sure, I would never use him, but you can bet your life that I would pick him up in a second to prevent another owner from having them. Is that cheating?

You tried to gain an advantage by only holding 1 QB and using your roster spots elsewhere...you failed...deal with it.

Also, you keep posting you "fantasy nerds" "people that take fantasy too seriously" blah blah blah. Well you obviously take it pretty seriously that you are getting all worked up over it and came on this bored, registered a name, and cried about it for the last two days. There are plenty of things I dont take that seriously that others do. Take for example paintballing. I am going this weekend, and I am going to wear my halloween costume (buddy the elf) while most people will be wearing Camo Gear since it is outdoors. There will be people there with awesome guns, who play ever week and will work together to shoot me so much ill be purple. But I dont care, I dont take it that serious, and im sure as hell not going to go sign up for some paintball message board and complain about it saying how they are ridiculous for caring so much...that would just mean that I care as well..which I dont.

you lose

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Not even, it was more about what's the point of adding one of the 6-8 scrubs always avail if he's likely to get benched or hurt by the time I need him. Obv if there was a half descent QB on the waiver wire I would have rostered him, but all of the guys sucked.

What's the point? Avoiding this situation. Winning. Planning ahead. And "If they all sucked, why not grab one of the 2-3 other guys available now, sans whiny tangentquote]I find it hilarious that most of you think it's fun to play a guy that has no QB. Do you also wish car wrecks, or natural disasters that prevent your friends from being able to swap out bye week players? It's so fun playing a short handed team, but hey WIN BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY!

At least you added the rolleyes for me. Laughable at best. It's "hilarious" due to your ineptitude/attitude. It is now hilarious that you are now invoking and comparing your mindnumbingly stupid lack of planning/management with REAL tragedies, in a vain effort to grasp at the moral high-ground. In before a Nazi/9-11 reference.Prolly best to quit now (aka admit that you are a moron who overacted due to stress/work etc and take your lumps by working on a strategy to improve your team (as I said in my 1st post in this thread-- TRADING for a decent backup with a DIVISION mate of your opponent)instead of some inane "woe is me" I'm gonna purposely implode my team to "show them"/take my ball and go home.

This is usually reserved for the FFA, but I'm gonna channel Mr. 's and say we have an

INSTANT CLASSIC on ourhands here

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

12 team league, $200 buy in, league has been around for maybe 8 years, all of us are friends.

We have huge rosters, due to using IDPs, and no limit at any position, half the time I keep an empty roster spot. Every week for as long as I've been in the league there are 6-8 free agent QBs on the waiver wire. With Brady's bye approaching I was content starting one of those guys, or possibly making a trade for someone's 3rd stringer. Well, last weekend, over a week before Brady's bye, 3 teams (including 1 team I play this week, and the commish) went ahead and picked up 7 or 8 of the free agent QBs, in an obvious attempt to prevent me from having a legitimate starter.

In the years I've been in the league there have been a couple opportunities to hoard, and it's probably crossed peoples minds, but it takes a low person to actually go and do it. I can say with certainty I would never do it; I mean if you were playing against someone who didn't care enough to replace players on a bye, it wouldn't be any fun. So, why would actively preventing him from replacing those players be considered good strategy?

At this point there are maybe 2 free agent Qbs available, and I could still trade for one, but I've really lost interest in the league. For a league of friends to stoop so low is embarassing.

Comparable to: Knowing your mom has to use the bathroom, running to it 1st and locking the door. When she knocks and asks you to hurry you respond, "Mom, you should have planned ahead," and continue taking your time while reading thru the latest Maxim magazine.

*Since everyone here is so literal, I have to explain that the above statement is a humorous analogy I took from this thread: http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...;p=9271827&

Wow, there are a lot of hard-### comments here that "it's a dog eat dog world; it's your own fault, etc." What these posters miss is that there is a BIG difference between your opponent picking up a free agent you want vs. several teams COLLUDING to do it. Generally speaking, one person doing something or getting the better end of a trade=ok. Collusion=not ok. No one would look at someone complaining about collusion at a poker table and tell them they should "just been more prepared." Jeeze!

As to whether you should quit or not, I agree with the comment that you just ask yourself if you are having fun. If you are, stay. If you are not, then go.

Good luck,

M

1.Go get a dictionary. 2.Look up the definition of collusion.

3. If this still doesn't make sense to you Look above at Mauriles post. He's pretty elegant/terse when explaining ####.

By your (and many others in this threads) definition of collusion, all the other 11 teams are colluding against you on a weekly basis by trying to beat you. Collusion requires some secret/backdoor , underhanded dealings. A collective desire for the other teams to see that they perform better than you is NOT collusion.

For e.g. The above is not collusion. Assume FA plucking teams are teams 1 2 and 3(with 3 being the team playing OP this week) .If one of team 1/2/ wanted to pick up player X to cover a bye in 2 weeks, but was talked out of it by team 3 by promising that Team 3 would not pick up any of the players TEAM 1/2 dropped OR by saying that they would not next week pick up player X(originally desired FA) if they picked up QB's to screw OP THEN IT's COLLUSION.

But saying, hey everyone dump your last few scrubs so as to screw over OP (especially of OP is "competitive/doing well, and these teams all uniquely benefit from his losing by gaining ground on him) is NOT COLLUSION.

Any questions?

 

[Crusaderfan]

With large rosters and seemingly space on your roster - no excuse for not picking up a replacement QB for a known bye week.Its almost as thought you were extending your roster by one - to keep you back-up QB on the practice squad (waiver wire) without having to use up a roster spot for him until necessary.

Not even, it was more about what's the point of adding one of the 6-8 scrubs always avail if he's likely to get benched or hurt by the time I need him. Obv if there was a half descent QB on the waiver wire I would have rostered him, but all of the guys sucked.I find it hilarious that most of you think it's fun to play a guy that has no QB. Do you also wish car wrecks, or natural disasters that prevent your friends from being able to swap out bye week players? It's so fun playing a short handed team, but hey WIN BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY!

I come back a day later and Home is still at it?? This has got to be No grown adult male that still has all of his equipment can consistently whine this much. Even if going through male menopause. Although MAYBE if injured in a car wreck or natural disaster??

 

[Tybeeman]

"Mr Bitter, your table for one is ready"

 

[home alone]

Hey Home alone boy. It sounds like YOU take fantasy football way too seriously. You're all sad and mopey because you made a ######ed decision to not have a backup at QB. In every league I've ever been in, you make sure you have backups at QB. Sounds like you weren't prepared and now you're trying to play the "blame game" and claim you aren't that interested in fantasy football and it doesn't mean that much to you.Extremely annoying. If you are in a group of friends, I hope they make fun of you left and right.

Seriously, anyone who plays in a $200 league is not just a casual Fantasy Football player.As for the actions of the league, if I was in a league and I saw a owner being a ######## and keeping an open roster spot with Brady's bye coming up, I'd do exactly the same as his league mates did just because this guy is asking for it.

So you agree with me that they thought I was yearning for a good lesson and picked up all the free agents? I'm pretty sure that's collusion. You guys can stop with all the technical definitions...I don't care, it's obvious what went on here.Let's not forget said "lesson" or "joke" or how ever the owners in question would try to justify it, the reality is they're getting off on me suffering 2 losses because Brady stays in my lineup.Clearly most people here haven't read even one full page because I've said over and over why I didn't roster a bottom of the barrel QB: because there are always 6-8 there, the worst of the worst have a tendency to get hurt/benched, so why not just wait until the Tuesday of Brady's bye. If someone cut a player like Garrard obv I would have rostered him. Don't worry guys, I'll never again over estimate the maturity level of "friends" in a fantasy football league.

 

[32 Counter Pass]

Hey Home alone boy. It sounds like YOU take fantasy football way too seriously. You're all sad and mopey because you made a ######ed decision to not have a backup at QB. In every league I've ever been in, you make sure you have backups at QB. Sounds like you weren't prepared and now you're trying to play the "blame game" and claim you aren't that interested in fantasy football and it doesn't mean that much to you.Extremely annoying. If you are in a group of friends, I hope they make fun of you left and right.

Seriously, anyone who plays in a $200 league is not just a casual Fantasy Football player.As for the actions of the league, if I was in a league and I saw a owner being a ######## and keeping an open roster spot with Brady's bye coming up, I'd do exactly the same as his league mates did just because this guy is asking for it.

So you agree with me that they thought I was yearning for a good lesson and picked up all the free agents? I'm pretty sure that's collusion. You guys can stop with all the technical definitions...I don't care, it's obvious what went on here.Let's not forget said "lesson" or "joke" or how ever the owners in question would try to justify it, the reality is they're getting off on me suffering 2 losses because Brady stays in my lineup.Clearly most people here haven't read even one full page because I've said over and over why I didn't roster a bottom of the barrel QB: because there are always 6-8 there, the worst of the worst have a tendency to get hurt/benched, so why not just wait until the Tuesday of Brady's bye. If someone cut a player like Garrard obv I would have rostered him. Don't worry guys, I'll never again over estimate the maturity level of "friends" in a fantasy football league.

And never again under estimate the value of planning ahead. This would be a non issue if you had done so.

 

[JamesTheScot]

With large rosters and seemingly space on your roster - no excuse for not picking up a replacement QB for a known bye week.Its almost as thought you were extending your roster by one - to keep you back-up QB on the practice squad (waiver wire) without having to use up a roster spot for him until necessary.

Not even, it was more about what's the point of adding one of the 6-8 scrubs always avail if he's likely to get benched or hurt by the time I need him. Obv if there was a half descent QB on the waiver wire I would have rostered him, but all of the guys sucked.I find it hilarious that most of you think it's fun to play a guy that has no QB. Do you also wish car wrecks, or natural disasters that prevent your friends from being able to swap out bye week players? It's so fun playing a short handed team, but hey WIN BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY!

I find it hilarious that you are capable of finding validation when one or two people agree with you while the vast majority (80+ %) don't. If you are so insecure as to require external validation, at least have sense enough to side with the majority.I also find it curious that you assert that you are the "normal" one in your opinions and ethics when 80+% of the voters disagree with you. Perhaps you should be the one to visit a dictionary. BTW, the NFL defines what's unsportsmanlike in of all places...the rulebook. I can't say that I'm surprised that you won't come forward with details about rosters when you are challenged. Nor am I surprised you haven't posted any kind of justification for switching the poll choices. Just ignore the tricky questions.What I am surprised at is the gall you show in running down your leaguemates for their poor sportsmanship when you pull the blatantly dishonest ######tery of switching poll choices. You are the pot, and a dishonest one at that.And the condenscension and name calling in your posts certainly tells us about what you must be like as a league-mate. I can see why someone would enjoy seeing you shown for a fool. I know I have with every page of this thread.But to the point, Maurile Tremblay quite clearly explained why their concerted effort wasn't collusion. But since you love dictionaries so much... Collusion: A secret agreement for a fraudulent, illegal or deceitful purpose. There was nothing fraudulent, illegal or deceitful about their purpose. They openly rostered players so you couldn't, and that isn't against your rules. Anytime you pick up a player you don't intend to start that week, you are necessarily taking them out of the pool for the purpose of making them unavailable to others. Even if you think you might use them down the road, you are taking them out of the pool now so no one else can get at them. Their snatching up QB's that you could start is no more unethical or illegal than your holding onto players on your bench that others in the league could possibly start. You are being hypocritical.Scour the waivers for their castoffs or see if you can fracture the alliance before game time by offering some trade bait. The ones you don't trade with will feel more foolish because their plan failed and they got no payoff for their efforts. Return the favor if you can with an alliance of your own. Admit that you got owned because of your own short-sightedness and complacency. By God be a man and accept that with some class, grace and dignity. Then regain some respect by making the best of this adversity without resorting to whiny #####ing, blatant hypocrisy and name-calling.

 

[the branded hand]

Wow, you're quick. I think I've been saying for the last ...5 pages that it's about friends stooping so low.

Sharks don't have "friends" during football season, they feed...

I find it hilarious that most of you think it's fun to play a guy that has no QB. Do you also wish car wrecks, or natural disasters that prevent your friends from being able to swap out bye week players? It's so fun playing a short handed team, but hey WIN BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY!

Stop throwing chum into the Shark Pool, please... you're makin' everyone crazy!

 

[belljr]

Is this a start 2 QB league?

 

[FavreCo]

Is this a start 2 QB league?

You trying to hijack this thread?

 

[Organized Chaos]

Hey Home alone boy. It sounds like YOU take fantasy football way too seriously. You're all sad and mopey because you made a ######ed decision to not have a backup at QB. In every league I've ever been in, you make sure you have backups at QB. Sounds like you weren't prepared and now you're trying to play the "blame game" and claim you aren't that interested in fantasy football and it doesn't mean that much to you.Extremely annoying. If you are in a group of friends, I hope they make fun of you left and right.

Seriously, anyone who plays in a $200 league is not just a casual Fantasy Football player.As for the actions of the league, if I was in a league and I saw a owner being a ######## and keeping an open roster spot with Brady's bye coming up, I'd do exactly the same as his league mates did just because this guy is asking for it.

So you agree with me that they thought I was yearning for a good lesson and picked up all the free agents? I'm pretty sure that's collusion. You guys can stop with all the technical definitions...I don't care, it's obvious what went on here.Let's not forget said "lesson" or "joke" or how ever the owners in question would try to justify it, the reality is they're getting off on me suffering 2 losses because Brady stays in my lineup.Clearly most people here haven't read even one full page because I've said over and over why I didn't roster a bottom of the barrel QB: because there are always 6-8 there, the worst of the worst have a tendency to get hurt/benched, so why not just wait until the Tuesday of Brady's bye. If someone cut a player like Garrard obv I would have rostered him. Don't worry guys, I'll never again over estimate the maturity level of "friends" in a fantasy football league.

This is my first post in this thread, but honestly man, if this were a friends league like you say, it makes alot of sense. In my local league it's a $100 entry, but we are a bunch of guys that mess with each other through the draft, on the message boards and when we hang out, I would totally expect this to happen in my league if you managed your roster as you described.I would get a couple of the guys to mess with you after watching you roster a single QB for 7 weeks. Only thing that is different, the guys in my league would be pissed, but they would take their punches like a man and find a way to win... It's alot like how you can expect to get raked over the coals on a trade for your backup RB when the starter goes down... Now if they were picking up and dropping the players to lock them, it's a different story, but in the context of what I have read, it sounds like you deserved what you got...

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Hey Home alone boy. It sounds like YOU take fantasy football way too seriously. You're all sad and mopey because you made a ######ed decision to not have a backup at QB. In every league I've ever been in, you make sure you have backups at QB. Sounds like you weren't prepared and now you're trying to play the "blame game" and claim you aren't that interested in fantasy football and it doesn't mean that much to you.Extremely annoying. If you are in a group of friends, I hope they make fun of you left and right.

Seriously, anyone who plays in a $200 league is not just a casual Fantasy Football player.As for the actions of the league, if I was in a league and I saw a owner being a ######## and keeping an open roster spot with Brady's bye coming up, I'd do exactly the same as his league mates did just because this guy is asking for it.

So you agree with me that they thought I was yearning for a good lesson and picked up all the free agents? I'm pretty sure that's collusion. You guys can stop with all the technical definitions...I don't care, it's obvious what went on here.Let's not forget said "lesson" or "joke" or how ever the owners in question would try to justify it, the reality is they're getting off on me suffering 2 losses because Brady stays in my lineup.Clearly most people here haven't read even one full page because I've said over and over why I didn't roster a bottom of the barrel QB: because there are always 6-8 there, the worst of the worst have a tendency to get hurt/benched, so why not just wait until the Tuesday of Brady's bye. If someone cut a player like Garrard obv I would have rostered him. Don't worry guys, I'll never again over estimate the maturity level of "friends" in a fantasy football league.

How many pts is "GM maturity" worth in your scoring?

 

[thekidd2009]

Hey Home alone boy. It sounds like YOU take fantasy football way too seriously. You're all sad and mopey because you made a ######ed decision to not have a backup at QB. In every league I've ever been in, you make sure you have backups at QB. Sounds like you weren't prepared and now you're trying to play the "blame game" and claim you aren't that interested in fantasy football and it doesn't mean that much to you.Extremely annoying. If you are in a group of friends, I hope they make fun of you left and right.

Seriously, anyone who plays in a $200 league is not just a casual Fantasy Football player.As for the actions of the league, if I was in a league and I saw a owner being a ######## and keeping an open roster spot with Brady's bye coming up, I'd do exactly the same as his league mates did just because this guy is asking for it.

So you agree with me that they thought I was yearning for a good lesson and picked up all the free agents? I'm pretty sure that's collusion. You guys can stop with all the technical definitions...I don't care, it's obvious what went on here.Let's not forget said "lesson" or "joke" or how ever the owners in question would try to justify it, the reality is they're getting off on me suffering 2 losses because Brady stays in my lineup.Clearly most people here haven't read even one full page because I've said over and over why I didn't roster a bottom of the barrel QB: because there are always 6-8 there, the worst of the worst have a tendency to get hurt/benched, so why not just wait until the Tuesday of Brady's bye. If someone cut a player like Garrard obv I would have rostered him. Don't worry guys, I'll never again over estimate the maturity level of "friends" in a fantasy football league.

Listen, if you haven't noticed, there are alot of people that are just looking to mess with you and really could care less about helping you out. Your just feeding into these morons by arguing with them. Your "friends" tried to #### you over this week and it's obvious. If it were me, I wouldn't pay unless they dropped some of the players in question.

 

[Lehigh98]

Definite

Guy would have given up by now if it wasn't.

 

[NYCGangGreen]

12 team league, $200 buy in, league has been around for maybe 8 years, all of us are friends.

We have huge rosters, due to using IDPs, and no limit at any position, half the time I keep an empty roster spot. Every week for as long as I've been in the league there are 6-8 free agent QBs on the waiver wire. With Brady's bye approaching I was content starting one of those guys, or possibly making a trade for someone's 3rd stringer. Well, last weekend, over a week before Brady's bye, 3 teams (including 1 team I play this week, and the commish) went ahead and picked up 7 or 8 of the free agent QBs, in an obvious attempt to prevent me from having a legitimate starter.

In the years I've been in the league there have been a couple opportunities to hoard, and it's probably crossed peoples minds, but it takes a low person to actually go and do it. I can say with certainty I would never do it; I mean if you were playing against someone who didn't care enough to replace players on a bye, it wouldn't be any fun. So, why would actively preventing him from replacing those players be considered good strategy?

At this point there are maybe 2 free agent Qbs available, and I could still trade for one, but I've really lost interest in the league. For a league of friends to stoop so low is embarassing.

Comparable to: Knowing your mom has to use the bathroom, running to it 1st and locking the door. When she knocks and asks you to hurry you respond, "Mom, you should have planned ahead," and continue taking your time while reading thru the latest Maxim magazine.

*Since everyone here is so literal, I have to explain that the above statement is a humorous analogy I took from this thread: http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...;p=9271827&

Interesting, you strike me as more of a Home and Garden type, not Maxim.Fact is, IF you are actually toward the top of the standings....then of course the other teams are going to do what they can to have you lose a few games. Plus..you have BRADY!!

If you were in last place, no owner even cares about your crap team. Go have some chai tea with your mom, and maybe she will console you.

 

[GloryDaze]

Definite Guy would have given up by now if it wasn't.

At least he's keeping it amusing.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Definite Guy would have given up by now if it wasn't.

i believe this guys for real...and thats even worse...anyone who would cry about this in the first place would DEFINETLY keep protesting his point at all costs...freakin riot

 

[ditka...mike ditka]

Hey Home alone boy. It sounds like YOU take fantasy football way too seriously. You're all sad and mopey because you made a ######ed decision to not have a backup at QB. In every league I've ever been in, you make sure you have backups at QB. Sounds like you weren't prepared and now you're trying to play the "blame game" and claim you aren't that interested in fantasy football and it doesn't mean that much to you.Extremely annoying. If you are in a group of friends, I hope they make fun of you left and right.

Seriously, anyone who plays in a $200 league is not just a casual Fantasy Football player.As for the actions of the league, if I was in a league and I saw a owner being a ######## and keeping an open roster spot with Brady's bye coming up, I'd do exactly the same as his league mates did just because this guy is asking for it.

So you agree with me that they thought I was yearning for a good lesson and picked up all the free agents? I'm pretty sure that's collusion. You guys can stop with all the technical definitions...I don't care, it's obvious what went on here.Let's not forget said "lesson" or "joke" or how ever the owners in question would try to justify it, the reality is they're getting off on me suffering 2 losses because Brady stays in my lineup.Clearly most people here haven't read even one full page because I've said over and over why I didn't roster a bottom of the barrel QB: because there are always 6-8 there, the worst of the worst have a tendency to get hurt/benched, so why not just wait until the Tuesday of Brady's bye. If someone cut a player like Garrard obv I would have rostered him. Don't worry guys, I'll never again over estimate the maturity level of "friends" in a fantasy football league.

Listen, if you haven't noticed, there are alot of people that are just looking to mess with you and really could care less about helping you out. Your just feeding into these morons by arguing with them. Your "friends" tried to #### you over this week and it's obvious. If it were me, I wouldn't pay unless they dropped some of the players in question.

Another guy walks up to the watering hole and casts his pole!

 

[BespokeJort]

Hey Home alone boy. It sounds like YOU take fantasy football way too seriously. You're all sad and mopey because you made a ######ed decision to not have a backup at QB. In every league I've ever been in, you make sure you have backups at QB. Sounds like you weren't prepared and now you're trying to play the "blame game" and claim you aren't that interested in fantasy football and it doesn't mean that much to you.Extremely annoying. If you are in a group of friends, I hope they make fun of you left and right.

Seriously, anyone who plays in a $200 league is not just a casual Fantasy Football player.As for the actions of the league, if I was in a league and I saw a owner being a ######## and keeping an open roster spot with Brady's bye coming up, I'd do exactly the same as his league mates did just because this guy is asking for it.

So you agree with me that they thought I was yearning for a good lesson and picked up all the free agents? I'm pretty sure that's collusion. You guys can stop with all the technical definitions...I don't care, it's obvious what went on here.Let's not forget said "lesson" or "joke" or how ever the owners in question would try to justify it, the reality is they're getting off on me suffering 2 losses because Brady stays in my lineup.Clearly most people here haven't read even one full page because I've said over and over why I didn't roster a bottom of the barrel QB: because there are always 6-8 there, the worst of the worst have a tendency to get hurt/benched, so why not just wait until the Tuesday of Brady's bye. If someone cut a player like Garrard obv I would have rostered him. Don't worry guys, I'll never again over estimate the maturity level of "friends" in a fantasy football league.

Dunno why I'm replying to this again but I'm going to do so one more timethat's collusion IF AND ONLY IF they have contacted each other and made an explicit agreement to do so.If one guy grabbed a couple QBs and then the others saw and thought it would be hilarious/deserved for you to get screwed over and followed suit, there's nothing whatsoever illegal or even immoral about that. As many others have said, if you're rostering anyone you don't intend to start from week to week you're doing the same thing. I love how you ignore that point when it's repeatedly brought up. You can probably tell if this is the case by checking A. the time between when they were picked up, and B. whether the first guy took the best available guys and so on, or whether they were just kind of picked up at random. Your unwillingness to provide these details makes me suspicious (as does your rants on 'maturity' and 'sportsmanship' when you were caught red-handed changing the poll options, but that's another issue).Also, I don't know what your league's collective financial situations are but you should really stop whining about 'maturity' and being taken aback at the behavior of 'friends' and realize that even in a league with integrity, if it's a $200 league, you're gonna see some cutthroat behavior within the rules. The prize at the end is enough that people are going to do what they can to lower another team's chances and raise their own. I play in a $40 dyno league where I have never had any problem with the other owners' integrity. I'm the defending champion and currently in 2nd for all intents and purposes, and I know with full certainty the same thing would happen to me if I didn't roster a QB2 in advance...and I wouldn't have it any other way. People will try to knock a contender down, and so long as it's by legal means (churning is different and NOT legal in the vast majority of leagues that are serious enough to play for cash and type up a league constitution and whatnot) IMO fantasy football is far, far less fun if you don't have to be on your toes for your leaguemates catching you slipping.

 

[belljr]

iQUIT

 

[Instinctive]

The thing is, they didn't loan players to each other. They all had to drop somebody, which made available players that could potentially be more helpful in more important weeks, and that it is strategically sound.

If I needed a win, and the guy I was up against needed a QB...I would do everything in my power to make sure those 20 points or so (about my league's QB average score) are unavailable to his lineup. Would a drop a guy who would help me more later? Only if it was a must-win. Would I try to get others to grab a QB or two? Sure as hell would.

 

[Knobs]

Bush league, childish, lack of sportsmanship [ 53 ] ** [17.67%]

I think hoarding players you obviously have no use for is great strategy [ 247 ] ** [82.33%]

Keep fighting the good fight, OP!

I love the fact he came here asking for support in his viewpoint, and when he was completely and totally disagreed with he now claims it's everyone else that has the problem.

 

[Tillmanisahero]

First off, you are going to get raked over the coals by all the "pros" in here so be ready for it. It's a win at all cost atmosphere here even in a "friendly" league.That being said, you don't need anyone's advice from this board. The matter is VERY simple. Do you enjoy the league? If so, stay. If not, if it isn't fun, then get out. Seriously, what's the point if you don't enjoy it? And you don't need anyone here to tell you if you are enjoying yourself. In fact, no one here can possibly know. So just make your decision and be done with it.

 

[FUBAR]

Hey Home alone boy. It sounds like YOU take fantasy football way too seriously. You're all sad and mopey because you made a ######ed decision to not have a backup at QB. In every league I've ever been in, you make sure you have backups at QB. Sounds like you weren't prepared and now you're trying to play the "blame game" and claim you aren't that interested in fantasy football and it doesn't mean that much to you.Extremely annoying. If you are in a group of friends, I hope they make fun of you left and right.

Seriously, anyone who plays in a $200 league is not just a casual Fantasy Football player.As for the actions of the league, if I was in a league and I saw a owner being a ######## and keeping an open roster spot with Brady's bye coming up, I'd do exactly the same as his league mates did just because this guy is asking for it.

So you agree with me that they thought I was yearning for a good lesson and picked up all the free agents? I'm pretty sure that's collusion. You guys can stop with all the technical definitions...I don't care, it's obvious what went on here.Let's not forget said "lesson" or "joke" or how ever the owners in question would try to justify it, the reality is they're getting off on me suffering 2 losses because Brady stays in my lineup.Clearly most people here haven't read even one full page because I've said over and over why I didn't roster a bottom of the barrel QB: because there are always 6-8 there, the worst of the worst have a tendency to get hurt/benched, so why not just wait until the Tuesday of Brady's bye. If someone cut a player like Garrard obv I would have rostered him. Don't worry guys, I'll never again over estimate the maturity level of "friends" in a fantasy football league.

Making a strong case for poster of the year. Clearly you planned wrong and got burnt. Get over it or stop playing for money when you can't handle it.

 

[MOAT]

Making a strong case for poster of the year. Clearly you planned wrong and got burnt. Get over it or stop playing for money when you can't handle it.

It is clear that he doesn't play for money. The others in the league do. He just donates.

 

[Disco Stu]

So you agree with me that they thought I was yearning for a good lesson and picked up all the free agents? I'm pretty sure that's collusion. You guys can stop with all the technical definitions...I don't care, it's obvious what went on here.

Let's not forget said "lesson" or "joke" or how ever the owners in question would try to justify it, the reality is they're getting off on me suffering 2 losses because Brady stays in my lineup.

Clearly most people here haven't read even one full page because I've said over and over why I didn't roster a bottom of the barrel QB: because there are always 6-8 there, the worst of the worst have a tendency to get hurt/benched, so why not just wait until the Tuesday of Brady's bye. If someone cut a player like Garrard obv I would have rostered him.

Don't worry guys, I'll never again over estimate the maturity level of "friends" in a fantasy football league.

You understand that your excuse for not rostering a second QB is ridiculous, right? You make it sound like you have one chance to pick up a QB, so you better wait as long as possible to make sure you get it right. "Why not wait?" is terrible reasoning. "Why wait?" should have been your next question. There's no logical reason to wait.

 

[gianmarco]

Hey Home alone boy. It sounds like YOU take fantasy football way too seriously. You're all sad and mopey because you made a ######ed decision to not have a backup at QB. In every league I've ever been in, you make sure you have backups at QB.

Sounds like you weren't prepared and now you're trying to play the "blame game" and claim you aren't that interested in fantasy football and it doesn't mean that much to you.

Extremely annoying. If you are in a group of friends, I hope they make fun of you left and right.

Seriously, anyone who plays in a $200 league is not just a casual Fantasy Football player.As for the actions of the league, if I was in a league and I saw a owner being a ######## and keeping an open roster spot with Brady's bye coming up, I'd do exactly the same as his league mates did just because this guy is asking for it.

So you agree with me that they thought I was yearning for a good lesson and picked up all the free agents? I'm pretty sure that's collusion. You guys can stop with all the technical definitions...I don't care, it's obvious what went on here.Let's not forget said "lesson" or "joke" or how ever the owners in question would try to justify it, the reality is they're getting off on me suffering 2 losses because Brady stays in my lineup.

Clearly most people here haven't read even one full page because I've said over and over why I didn't roster a bottom of the barrel QB: because there are always 6-8 there, the worst of the worst have a tendency to get hurt/benched, so why not just wait until the Tuesday of Brady's bye. If someone cut a player like Garrard obv I would have rostered him.

Don't worry guys, I'll never again over estimate the maturity level of "friends" in a fantasy football league.

Listen, if you haven't noticed, there are alot of people that are just looking to mess with you and really could care less about helping you out. Your just feeding into these morons by arguing with them. Your "friends" tried to #### you over this week and it's obvious. If it were me, I wouldn't pay unless they dropped some of the players in question.

You wouldn't pay what? Your league fee? Uhh, it's week 8.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

So you agree with me that they thought I was yearning for a good lesson and picked up all the free agents? I'm pretty sure that's collusion. You guys can stop with all the technical definitions...I don't care, it's obvious what went on here.

Let's not forget said "lesson" or "joke" or how ever the owners in question would try to justify it, the reality is they're getting off on me suffering 2 losses because Brady stays in my lineup.

Clearly most people here haven't read even one full page because I've said over and over why I didn't roster a bottom of the barrel QB: because there are always 6-8 there, the worst of the worst have a tendency to get hurt/benched, so why not just wait until the Tuesday of Brady's bye. If someone cut a player like Garrard obv I would have rostered him.

Don't worry guys, I'll never again over estimate the maturity level of "friends" in a fantasy football league.

You understand that your excuse for not rostering a second QB is ridiculous, right? You make it sound like you have one chance to pick up a QB, so you better wait as long as possible to make sure you get it right. "Why not wait?" is terrible reasoning. "Why wait?" should have been your next question. There's no logical reason to wait.

just want to know why you wouldnt have a back up QB on your bench just in case your every week starter got hurt....and dont say thats what the waiver wire is for...ive seen guys i was starting get hurt during warm ups and i had minutes to plug in my second guy

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Bush league, childish, lack of sportsmanship [ 53 ] ** [17.67%]I think hoarding players you obviously have no use for is great strategy [ 247 ] ** [82.33%]Keep fighting the good fight, OP!I love the fact he came here asking for support in his viewpoint, and when he was completely and totally disagreed with he now claims it's everyone else that has the problem.

Keep in mind that several of those 53 votes are due to the OP switching the poll choices so he'd get a bump. He then switched them back. The fact that he did that is, to me, the funniest thing in this thread. I'm guessing he was going to lead his leaguemates here to show them the poll results at some point but it didn't quite go as he wanted.

 

[bonesman]

I still want to see his roster!

I wouldn't be surprised if this guy was sitting on Sam Hurd or Lynell Hamilton instead of grabbing a QB2.

 

[ditka...mike ditka]

*bump*

so he can easily find this thread and confess he was fishing and tricked us all...its friday, so its time to come clean

 

[Knobs]

Bush league, childish, lack of sportsmanship [ 53 ] ** [17.67%]I think hoarding players you obviously have no use for is great strategy [ 247 ] ** [82.33%]Keep fighting the good fight, OP!I love the fact he came here asking for support in his viewpoint, and when he was completely and totally disagreed with he now claims it's everyone else that has the problem.

Keep in mind that several of those 53 votes are due to the OP switching the poll choices so he'd get a bump. He then switched them back. The fact that he did that is, to me, the funniest thing in this thread. I'm guessing he was going to lead his leaguemates here to show them the poll results at some point but it didn't quite go as he wanted.

I can't believe he switched the poll options.This thread is awesome.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Bush league, childish, lack of sportsmanship [ 53 ] ** [17.67%]I think hoarding players you obviously have no use for is great strategy [ 247 ] ** [82.33%]Keep fighting the good fight, OP!I love the fact he came here asking for support in his viewpoint, and when he was completely and totally disagreed with he now claims it's everyone else that has the problem.

Keep in mind that several of those 53 votes are due to the OP switching the poll choices so he'd get a bump. He then switched them back. The fact that he did that is, to me, the funniest thing in this thread. I'm guessing he was going to lead his leaguemates here to show them the poll results at some point but it didn't quite go as he wanted.

I can't believe he switched the poll options.This thread is awesome.

 

[treat88]

7 pages of pure Shark Pool beatdown.

Beautiful.

Honestly, I'd be disappointed to find out that this was just schtick. It's too just good if homealone is for real.