Would you rather that your team win on a terrible call (1 Viewer)

[GregR_2]

Something I found myself wondering how most people feel.

 

[Shermanator]

Its all about the W

 

[nashua55]

this question probably will best be answered by steelers fans, since so many calls went thier way in the superbowl against the seahawks. another game comes to mind is the patriots and raiders with the "fumble" tuck rule game. but in hindsite all teams get crapped on with bad calls from time to time, so if your team wins you take it and say oh well, tough break for the team that got screwed. instant replay was supposed to correct some of the mess, but if you watched the indy patriots game, refs still have alot of influence to screw a team, fortuneatly the patriots won anyway, because the refs really tried to give that game to the colts

 

[moleculo]

I'll take lucky over good all day.

 

[mrspree15]

Anyone saying they would rather lose is insane. Or you probably don't have a favorite team. What kind of bad fan doesn't take the win?

 

[bentley]

Its all about the W

Any way we can get them is fine with me.

 

[Eviloutsider]

If my team wins by a break at least they put themselfs in a position to win.

 

[BoltBacker]

If my team wins by a break at least they put themselfs in a position to win.

Exactly.Sporting events aren't decided by one play. If one team was clearly better than another it wouldn't put itself in the position that they could lose the game on one play be it a good call, coin flip or act of god. If you won a close game you put yourself in the position to win the contest on one play and that play was successful... you absolutely deserve the win. There's no moral victory in the loss you "shoulda" won.Also, I've never seen a terrible call on the last play of the game that was the first bad call all game long. They go both ways and usually cancel each other out unless you are talking about the NBA.

 

[Tyrion]

If my team wins by a break at least they put themselfs in a position to win.

Exactly.Sporting events aren't decided by one play. If one team was clearly better than another it wouldn't put itself in the position that they could lose the game on one play be it a good call, coin flip or act of god. If you won a close game you put yourself in the position to win the contest on one play and that play was successful... you absolutely deserve the win. There's no moral victory in the loss you "shoulda" won.Also, I've never seen a terrible call on the last play of the game that was the first bad call all game long. They go both ways and usually cancel each other out unless you are talking about the NBA.

Sounds like rationalization to me but I agree with the win is better than the loss. If my team can win and the other team can get screwed in the process that is even better. A

 

[Godsbrother]

this question probably will best be answered by steelers fans, since so many calls went thier way in the superbowl against the seahawks.

I take issue with this statement. I certainly don't want to rehash this for the 100th time (use search if you want to look at that) but other than the illegal block by Hasselbeck all of the other calls were legit although one or two might be characterized as ticky-tacky.In any case the Steelers certainly didn't win the game on a terrible call. They made the big plays to win the game while the Seahwaks didn't.

 

[southeastjerome]

I'd rather win, no question. Its not as if the bad call is my doing.

 

[knowledge dropper]

Other than the fans of the wronged team most people forget about the bad calls over time.

 

[kclien]

I guess I am in the minority here, but I would rather see good officiating regardless of the consequences.

 

[Christo]

Anyone saying they would rather lose is insane. Or you probably don't have a favorite team. What kind of bad fan doesn't take the win?

People with integrity.

 

[daveR]

My first reaction was: Take the win, this stuff happens. I take the losses the same way. Then I considered the other choice and concluded that a properly called game, win or lose, is to be preferred.

BTW, though I hate them, I concur that the Steelers were NOT given the game against the Seahawks. The penalties that were called were commited. The refs didn't make things up.

 

[coolnerd]

If the call is legitimate human error, then I am fine with the win, as human inperfection is a part of the game.

 

[Chaz McNulty]

this question probably will best be answered by steelers fans, since so many calls went thier way in the superbowl against the seahawks.

I take issue with this statement. I certainly don't want to rehash this for the 100th time (use search if you want to look at that) but other than the illegal block by Hasselbeck all of the other calls were legit although one or two might be characterized as ticky-tacky.In any case the Steelers certainly didn't win the game on a terrible call. They made the big plays to win the game while the Seahwaks didn't.

Keep up the good fight. BTW - have they found those WMD's in Iraq yet?

 

[Chaz McNulty]

If my team wins by a break at least they put themselfs in a position to win.

Exactly.Sporting events aren't decided by one play. If one team was clearly better than another it wouldn't put itself in the position that they could lose the game on one play be it a good call, coin flip or act of god. If you won a close game you put yourself in the position to win the contest on one play and that play was successful... you absolutely deserve the win. There's no moral victory in the loss you "shoulda" won.Also, I've never seen a terrible call on the last play of the game that was the first bad call all game long. They go both ways and usually cancel each other out unless you are talking about the NBA.

I completely disagree. There is so much parity in sports and so little seperation between the good teams, that all it takes to win or lose is one good/bad play or one good/bad call. You just have to hope that the bad calls don't happen on game changing plays, and that the questionable calls go both ways.I would still take the W.

 

[bizkliz]

this question probably will best be answered by steelers fans, since so many calls went thier way in the superbowl against the seahawks.

I take issue with this statement. I certainly don't want to rehash this for the 100th time (use search if you want to look at that) but other than the illegal block by Hasselbeck all of the other calls were legit although one or two might be characterized as ticky-tacky.In any case the Steelers certainly didn't win the game on a terrible call. They made the big plays to win the game while the Seahwaks didn't.

also, let us not forget how badly the steelers were shafted with bad calls versus the colts in the AFC divisionals, the only difference being the resiliency shown by Pittsburgh to overcome some horribly blown calls by the referees.every team gets their chances, some teams just dont know what to do with them. Steelers did, seahawks didnt. -biz-

 

[southeastjerome]

Anyone saying they would rather lose is insane. Or you probably don't have a favorite team. What kind of bad fan doesn't take the win?

People with integrity.

Integrity? Someone's team winning a fantasy football matchup because of a bad call has nothing to do with the integrity of the owner. That it is unless the team is owned by the referee who made the bad call. Integrity only comes into play when you have control over the situation. At least in my opinion.

 

[coolnerd]

Anyone saying they would rather lose is insane. Or you probably don't have a favorite team. What kind of bad fan doesn't take the win?

People with integrity.

Integrity? Someone's team winning a fantasy football matchup because of a bad call has nothing to do with the integrity of the owner. That it is unless the team is owned by the referee who made the bad call. Integrity only comes into play when you have control over the situation. At least in my opinion.

Not sure if makes a difference, but I read Greg R's poll as talking about your favorite NFL team, not fantasy.

 

[KoolKat]

You play to win the game.

 

[southeastjerome]

Anyone saying they would rather lose is insane. Or you probably don't have a favorite team. What kind of bad fan doesn't take the win?

People with integrity.

Integrity? Someone's team winning a fantasy football matchup because of a bad call has nothing to do with the integrity of the owner. That it is unless the team is owned by the referee who made the bad call. Integrity only comes into play when you have control over the situation. At least in my opinion.

Not sure if makes a difference, but I read Greg R's poll as talking about your favorite NFL team, not fantasy.

Oh you're right, thanks for pointing that out. I only read the title and assumed fantasy. Still feel the same way.

 

[Sabertooth]

YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!

 

[Anthony Borbely]

If the call is legitimate human error, then I am fine with the win, as human inperfection is a part of the game.

 

[fatness]

Win.

Because I'm OK with my team losing on a bad call, too. It happens, it's part of football.

 

[Christo]

Anyone saying they would rather lose is insane. Or you probably don't have a favorite team. What kind of bad fan doesn't take the win?

People with integrity.

Integrity? Someone's team winning a fantasy football matchup because of a bad call has nothing to do with the integrity of the owner. That it is unless the team is owned by the referee who made the bad call. Integrity only comes into play when you have control over the situation. At least in my opinion.

Not sure if makes a difference, but I read Greg R's poll as talking about your favorite NFL team, not fantasy.

Oh you're right, thanks for pointing that out. I only read the title and assumed fantasy. Still feel the same way.

The question is not "would you accept a tainted win over an untainted loss." Obviously we'd all accept the outcome of a tainted win because we have no choice in the matter. But the question is "would you rather have your team have a tainted win over an untainted loss." In this scenario you do have a choice. And to me choosing the tainted outcome shows a lack of integrity.

 

[TinHat]

I'd rather that every call in every game be perfect, but given that bad calls are made and teams get screwed all of the time anyway, I'll take the tainted W.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Anyone saying they would rather lose is insane. Or you probably don't have a favorite team. What kind of bad fan doesn't take the win?

People with integrity.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

The players try to win.

The refs try to call the game correctly.

The fans would presumably like it if both the players and the refs did their jobs well.

The question is: if the players on your favorite team botch their job, should you want the refs to also botch theirs? Do two botches make a right?

 

[redman]

Bad calls are part of the game. I've had bad calls and non-calls go against my team (try watching Michael Irvin get away with a half dozen pushoffs twice a year for more than a decade) and I've had them go for my team. It happens. As long as I'm not "controlling" the bad call through my choice, I'm voting for the win. To be honest though I wouldn't be happy with either scenario.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

this question probably will best be answered by steelers fans, since so many calls went thier way in the superbowl against the seahawks.

I take issue with this statement. I certainly don't want to rehash this for the 100th time (use search if you want to look at that) but other than the illegal block by Hasselbeck all of the other calls were legit although one or two might be characterized as ticky-tacky.In any case the Steelers certainly didn't win the game on a terrible call. They made the big plays to win the game while the Seahwaks didn't.

Seriously, enough already. The NFL reviewed the "controversial" calls and said they were correct. End of story. If Madden hadn't commented on the OPI and holding calls, there would have been no controversy. Funny how even Seahawks fans that watched the game with the sound off had no issue until the next day (I witnessed this in person and have seen it said by 'Hawks fans on this board.)Let it go.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Suppose you're watching a game, and your favorite team appears to score a go-ahead TD on the final play of the game, but there's a question about whether he stepped out of bounds at the one yard line.

By magic, you are the replay official on this play. Whatever you say goes -- and nobody else will even know that you are the replay official. (That's part of the magic.)

The replay shows that the runner did step out of bounds on the one.

Do you call the game correctly and make your team lose? Or call it incorrectly to make your team win?

If you would call the game correctly, then why would you prefer it if the real officials (in non-magical situations) called it incorrectly? Isn't that inconsistent?

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

this question probably will best be answered by steelers fans, since so many calls went thier way in the superbowl against the seahawks.

I take issue with this statement. I certainly don't want to rehash this for the 100th time (use search if you want to look at that) but other than the illegal block by Hasselbeck all of the other calls were legit although one or two might be characterized as ticky-tacky.In any case the Steelers certainly didn't win the game on a terrible call. They made the big plays to win the game while the Seahwaks didn't.

Seriously, enough already. The NFL reviewed the "controversial" calls and said they were correct. End of story. If Madden hadn't commented on the OPI and holding calls, there would have been no controversy. Funny how even Seahawks fans that watched the game with the sound off had no issue until the next day (I witnessed this in person and have seen it said by 'Hawks fans on this board.)Let it go.

Well, I'm not a Seahawks fan and the officiating looked pretty suspect to me. I said so during the game. What do you expect the NFL to say? Oh yeah, we really blew it in the biggest game of the year? Come on.The better team won, and they probably would have won anyway. But you can't pretend the calls weren't suspect. Well, I guess you can...but that's ignoring reality imo.

 

[tribecalledjeff]

Suppose you're watching a game, and your favorite team appears to score a go-ahead TD on the final play of the game, but there's a question about whether he stepped out of bounds at the one yard line.

By magic, you are the replay official on this play. Whatever you say goes -- and nobody else will even know that you are the replay official. (That's part of the magic.)

The replay shows that the runner did step out of bounds on the one.

Do you call the game correctly and make your team lose? Or call it incorrectly to make your team win?

If you would call the game correctly, then why would you prefer it if the real officials (in non-magical situations) called it incorrectly? Isn't that inconsistent?

i don't feel guilty if someone else makes the mistake.

 

[prosopis]

this question probably will best be answered by steelers fans, since so many calls went thier way in the superbowl against the seahawks.

I take issue with this statement. I certainly don't want to rehash this for the 100th time (use search if you want to look at that) but other than the illegal block by Hasselbeck all of the other calls were legit although one or two might be characterized as ticky-tacky.In any case the Steelers certainly didn't win the game on a terrible call. They made the big plays to win the game while the Seahwaks didn't.

With time everyone will believe this. I say take the win because with time no one will remember it was won with bad calls.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Suppose you're watching a game, and your favorite team appears to score a go-ahead TD on the final play of the game, but there's a question about whether he stepped out of bounds at the one yard line.

By magic, you are the replay official on this play. Whatever you say goes -- and nobody else will even know that you are the replay official. (That's part of the magic.)

The replay shows that the runner did step out of bounds on the one.

Do you call the game correctly and make your team lose? Or call it incorrectly to make your team win?

If you would call the game correctly, then why would you prefer it if the real officials (in non-magical situations) called it incorrectly? Isn't that inconsistent?

Its incomplete. Integrity. Its not even a discussion.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

Suppose you're watching a game, and your favorite team appears to score a go-ahead TD on the final play of the game, but there's a question about whether he stepped out of bounds at the one yard line.

By magic, you are the replay official on this play. Whatever you say goes -- and nobody else will even know that you are the replay official. (That's part of the magic.)

The replay shows that the runner did step out of bounds on the one.

Do you call the game correctly and make your team lose? Or call it incorrectly to make your team win?

If you would call the game correctly, then why would you prefer it if the real officials (in non-magical situations) called it incorrectly? Isn't that inconsistent?

If it's your job to get it right...get it right. I'd probably have trouble sleeping at night if I did that to the other players, coaches, city, etc. Jobs could be lost because of me. Marty went 14-2 and lost his job because of one game. To top it off, I couldn't even enjoy the win like the rest of the fans. No, I don't want to be that guy.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

this question probably will best be answered by steelers fans, since so many calls went thier way in the superbowl against the seahawks.

I take issue with this statement. I certainly don't want to rehash this for the 100th time (use search if you want to look at that) but other than the illegal block by Hasselbeck all of the other calls were legit although one or two might be characterized as ticky-tacky.In any case the Steelers certainly didn't win the game on a terrible call. They made the big plays to win the game while the Seahwaks didn't.

Seriously, enough already. The NFL reviewed the "controversial" calls and said they were correct. End of story. If Madden hadn't commented on the OPI and holding calls, there would have been no controversy. Funny how even Seahawks fans that watched the game with the sound off had no issue until the next day (I witnessed this in person and have seen it said by 'Hawks fans on this board.)Let it go.

Well, I'm not a Seahawks fan and the officiating looked pretty suspect to me. I said so during the game. What do you expect the NFL to say? Oh yeah, we really blew it in the biggest game of the year? Come on.The better team won, and they probably would have won anyway. But you can't pretend the calls weren't suspect. Well, I guess you can...but that's ignoring reality imo.

I thought the holding and OPI calls were good calls. Other than that, I don't know what the hubbub was all about. Roethlisberger's TD was right on the line, I would have had no problem with the call either way, but Cowher was going for it on 4th down, so that was likely a TD no matter what.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

this question probably will best be answered by steelers fans, since so many calls went thier way in the superbowl against the seahawks.

I take issue with this statement. I certainly don't want to rehash this for the 100th time (use search if you want to look at that) but other than the illegal block by Hasselbeck all of the other calls were legit although one or two might be characterized as ticky-tacky.In any case the Steelers certainly didn't win the game on a terrible call. They made the big plays to win the game while the Seahwaks didn't.

Seriously, enough already. The NFL reviewed the "controversial" calls and said they were correct. End of story. If Madden hadn't commented on the OPI and holding calls, there would have been no controversy. Funny how even Seahawks fans that watched the game with the sound off had no issue until the next day (I witnessed this in person and have seen it said by 'Hawks fans on this board.)Let it go.

Well, I'm not a Seahawks fan and the officiating looked pretty suspect to me. I said so during the game. What do you expect the NFL to say? Oh yeah, we really blew it in the biggest game of the year? Come on.The better team won, and they probably would have won anyway. But you can't pretend the calls weren't suspect. Well, I guess you can...but that's ignoring reality imo.

I thought the holding and OPI calls were good calls. Other than that, I don't know what the hubbub was all about. Roethlisberger's TD was right on the line, I would have had no problem with the call either way, but Cowher was going for it on 4th down, so that was likely a TD no matter what.

LET IT GO!

 

[mrspree15]

Anyone saying they would rather lose is insane. Or you probably don't have a favorite team. What kind of bad fan doesn't take the win?

People with integrity.

I honestly don't believe you. You know that feeling after you win vs after you lose. You're taking the loss because of some higher moral obligation? Just ridiculous. That's bad fandom, take the win and get out of there.

 

[HellToupee]

to quote the crypt keeper "Just win baby"

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Anyone saying they would rather lose is insane. Or you probably don't have a favorite team. What kind of bad fan doesn't take the win?

People with integrity.

I honestly don't believe you. You know that feeling after you win vs after you lose. You're taking the loss because of some higher moral obligation? Just ridiculous. That's bad fandom, take the win and get out of there.

Bad fandom. Bull####. Integrity is part of great fandom.

 

[The Redbeard]

Anyone saying they would rather lose is insane. Or you probably don't have a favorite team. What kind of bad fan doesn't take the win?

People with integrity.

I honestly don't believe you. You know that feeling after you win vs after you lose. You're taking the loss because of some higher moral obligation? Just ridiculous. That's bad fandom, take the win and get out of there.

You know that feeling when you go home with a loss because of a horrible call? The fans on the other side shouldn't have to feel that either. Bad fandom? I'll take being a good sport over a good fan any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

 

[redman]

Suppose you're watching a game, and your favorite team appears to score a go-ahead TD on the final play of the game, but there's a question about whether he stepped out of bounds at the one yard line.

By magic, you are the replay official on this play. Whatever you say goes -- and nobody else will even know that you are the replay official. (That's part of the magic.)

The replay shows that the runner did step out of bounds on the one.

Do you call the game correctly and make your team lose? Or call it incorrectly to make your team win?

If you would call the game correctly, then why would you prefer it if the real officials (in non-magical situations) called it incorrectly? Isn't that inconsistent?

I would call it correctly. My preference as to what the real officials do doesn't control the outcome, meaning that the moral/ethical aspect of my preference is removed. It's not inconsistent at all.

 

[Tacos al Carboner]

Win. Eight days a week. I have no shame.

 

[fatness]

Sunday School and church just let out, didn't they?

 

[mrspree15]

Anyone saying they would rather lose is insane. Or you probably don't have a favorite team. What kind of bad fan doesn't take the win?

People with integrity.

I honestly don't believe you. You know that feeling after you win vs after you lose. You're taking the loss because of some higher moral obligation? Just ridiculous. That's bad fandom, take the win and get out of there.

You know that feeling when you go home with a loss because of a horrible call? The fans on the other side shouldn't have to feel that either. Bad fandom? I'll take being a good sport over a good fan any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

My team won, I'll take it. It's a feeling of relief. A good feeling.It's not about being a good sport, I'm not rubbing it in anyone's face or bragging about anything, I'm just choosing that my team wins. I feel bad for the other team that got screwed, but hey my guys won. What kind of sick fan would choose to be on the other side?

 

[Christo]

Suppose you're watching a game, and your favorite team appears to score a go-ahead TD on the final play of the game, but there's a question about whether he stepped out of bounds at the one yard line.

By magic, you are the replay official on this play. Whatever you say goes -- and nobody else will even know that you are the replay official. (That's part of the magic.)

The replay shows that the runner did step out of bounds on the one.

Do you call the game correctly and make your team lose? Or call it incorrectly to make your team win?

If you would call the game correctly, then why would you prefer it if the real officials (in non-magical situations) called it incorrectly? Isn't that inconsistent?

i don't feel guilty if someone else makes the mistake.

That's not the question.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Anyone saying they would rather lose is insane. Or you probably don't have a favorite team. What kind of bad fan doesn't take the win?

People with integrity.

I honestly don't believe you. You know that feeling after you win vs after you lose. You're taking the loss because of some higher moral obligation? Just ridiculous. That's bad fandom, take the win and get out of there.

You know that feeling when you go home with a loss because of a horrible call? The fans on the other side shouldn't have to feel that either. Bad fandom? I'll take being a good sport over a good fan any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

My team won, I'll take it. It's a feeling of relief. A good feeling.It's not about being a good sport, I'm not rubbing it in anyone's face or bragging about anything, I'm just choosing that my team wins. I feel bad for the other team that got screwed, but hey my guys won. What kind of sick fan would choose to be on the other side?

Wow. Thats what went wrong with our political system.Its all about "my team". Has nothing to do with the sport itself.

Me, me, me.