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WR Allen Robinson (2 Viewers)

tangfoot said:
TheBottomLine said:
fightingillini said:
Banger said:
I was fortunate enough to target and get him in both my money leagues and he's been my best pick by far. Spectacular player. His week in and week out consistency has been terrific. I'm curious where most see him from a dynasty/keeper perspective.....

In my standard league he's "5th" with 169 pts behind Beckham (170), Julio (170), Brown (170) and Hopkins (171). So essentially he's tied for the #1 fantasy wr....I was hoping for top 10 upside and he blew that away.
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In a dynasty league, I would rank Robinson behind Beckham, A Brown, Julio, and Hopkins, and that's it. Sky is the limit for this kid.

What's not to like? Big plays, lots of receptions, can score TDs from in close, young, has a young gun slinging QB that really improved this year.........

Yeah, it would take a really good offer for me to give Robinson up in a dynasty. You can pencil WR1 production for the next 3-5 years easily.
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3-5 years? In 3 years he will be 25. Surely you aren't predicting him to decline in his 25-27 age seasons.
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It's foolish to look further out than that in dynasty. I won't go past 3 years for RBs.
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This.

All that matters is Robinson should post WR1 numbers for the next 3 or so years. Then evaluate when he's 25. Actually, you should evaluate him after every year.....that is what good dynasty owners do.

 
You are doing yourself a disservice if you refuse to look further than 3 years down the road.

It's fine for RBs. For WRs??? If you dont see a difference between a 22 year old stud and a 26 year old stud, well, your loss I guess

 
ghostguy123 said:
You are doing yourself a disservice if you refuse to look further than 3 years down the road.

It's fine for RBs. For WRs??? If you dont see a difference between a 22 year old stud and a 26 year old stud, well, your loss I guess
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No doubt, that was more my point. If he were 26, I'd be confident in another 3-5 years of this. At 22, man, who knows, but the sky is the limit and he may even improve, which seems pretty absurd at this point given how good he is already.

Really, we shouldn't argue over how far ahead you want to look, let's just agree that this dude is a young stud.

 
LOL, Jags up 10 now and 0 catches. Hope I'm overreacting with a lot of time left but this has the potential to be bad.

 
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Dizzy said:
BobbyLayne said:
Any explain on what happened yesterday?
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Vontae Davis?
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:lmao:

Yeah, OK. He had a great season a year ago. Been getting roasted all year.

I guess he did well yesterday, PFF gave him the second highest grade of anyone on the Colts D.

But looking back, he's been giving up big numbers all year. ARob went 4-80-0 earlier this year. Marshall, Hopkins, Julio and Antonio all had monster weeks against him.

Overall, the Colts came into the game having given up the 5th most FF points to WRs.

 
BobbyLayne said:
Dizzy said:
BobbyLayne said:
Any explain on what happened yesterday?
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Vontae Davis?
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:lmao:

Yeah, OK. He had a great season a year ago. Been getting roasted all year.

I guess he did well yesterday, PFF gave him the second highest grade of anyone on the Colts D.

But looking back, he's been giving up big numbers all year. ARob went 4-80-0 earlier this year. Marshall, Hopkins, Julio and Antonio all had monster weeks against him.

Overall, the Colts came into the game having given up the 5th most FF points to WRs.
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OK, now I see why nobody else bothered to answer your stupid question.

Live and learn.

 
Dizzy said:
BobbyLayne said:
Dizzy said:
BobbyLayne said:
Any explain on what happened yesterday?
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Vontae Davis?
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:lmao:

Yeah, OK. He had a great season a year ago. Been getting roasted all year.

I guess he did well yesterday, PFF gave him the second highest grade of anyone on the Colts D.

But looking back, he's been giving up big numbers all year. ARob went 4-80-0 earlier this year. Marshall, Hopkins, Julio and Antonio all had monster weeks against him.

Overall, the Colts came into the game having given up the 5th most FF points to WRs.
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OK, now I see why nobody else bothered to answer your stupid question.

Live and learn.
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Is it a stupid question? It's a pretty big aberration from his normal production. Vontae had an outstanding year last year. Other big name WRs have been productive against him. Just seems kind of weird everything was working for the Jags offense (rushing, Julius, bomb to Hurns) except their normal bread n butter.

Happy holidays.

 
Maybe the Colts are so bad against the pass that Bortles was able to spread the rock instead of just relying on ARob. I don't know why 1 catch for 4 yds, but just hope he got it out of his system moving forward to a matchup with ATL next week.

 
Ilov80s said:
As good as Bortles was for fantasy, he only completed 16 passes.
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true, but often fantasy points for quarterbacks doesn't so much come to volume of throws, but efficiency and specifically touchdown percentage. Bortles is right there with Tyrod Taylor, Rodgers, and Tom Brady.

 
Adam Levitan ‏@adamlevitan Dec 25

Since Rob Ryan was fired four games ago, Saints have faced three true "No. 1" WRs. DeAndre Hopkins 5-36-0, Mike Evans 3-39-0, Calvin 1-19-0.
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Not like anyone should be sitting A-Rob, but might need to temper expectations this week. Although if I remember correctly, gameflow affected Hopkins' performance and Calvin was a little banged up going into his game.

 
He is certainly making the Jordan Matthews growing pains easier in dynasty.

 
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Don said:
Adam Levitan ‏@adamlevitan Dec 25

Since Rob Ryan was fired four games ago, Saints have faced three true "No. 1" WRs. DeAndre Hopkins 5-36-0, Mike Evans 3-39-0, Calvin 1-19-0.
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Not like anyone should be sitting A-Rob, but might need to temper expectations this week. Although if I remember correctly, gameflow affected Hopkins' performance and Calvin was a little banged up going into his game.
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The Saints gave up 31.5 PPG under RR, 29.25 since. The latter extrapolated to 14 games would give them 409.5 on the season instead of 432 - DFL 32nd either way.

They had a shootout with Carolina but Cam to Olsen & Ginn shredded them, couldn't get off the field. Detroit ran for 150 - their 2nd best rushing effort - Stafford set a club record with an 88% completion rate, they punted a season low 3 times.

New Orleans is a bad defense, worst in the league by a good margin. Yeldon is doubtful so I expect Jax to stick with their strength. Bortles has been on fire the last four weeks, Hurns is healthier, Julius has 27-292-4 over his last 5 - if you own any Jags, you're starting them with confidence.

 
Stole AR15 in tiered PPR this year....10th round. No idea how he flew under the radar.

What a blessing to have him. He started every single week for me besides his bye. Not once did I even consider benching him, and it paid off with another league championship.

Thanks Arob!!

 
Well he has pretty much forced his way into what, top 5 WR? Brown/ODB/Julio - depending on QB's, I might just put him 4. Hopkins, Dez, and DT have to be in consideration, but Bortles is a proven (and young) commodity, others have questions, so putting AR over a couple of them isn't out of the question.

 
Targeted him in both my leagues and he was my MVP this year. So solid and consistent each week. I thought he was being drafted well below his floor but had no idea he would end up near the #1 wr. With Beckham, AR15 and AJ Green on my keeper league who would've thought that AJ Green would be my #3 wr. Crazy.

Thanks AR...hell of a year.

 
75/1292/14 on the season after today's 6/151/1 game. Since the merger, only 12 other WR's have put up at least 70 receptions, 1200 yards and double digit touchdowns in their second season:

Odell Beckham Jr.
A.J. Green
Calvin Johnson
Marques Colston
Larry Fitzgerald
Randy Moss
Isaac Bruce
Andre Rison
Andre Miller
Sterling Sharpe
Jerry Rice
Michael Clayton

Robinson joins Moss and Fitzgerald as the youngest WR's to accomplish this (age 22).

 
‏@Jaguars

WR @Thee_AR15 reached a speed of 21.8 MPH on his 90-yard TD. That's the eighth-fastest speed on a TD this year.

He ran a 4.6 40 at the combine.

 
If hurns wasnt there, he would have had a r moss type of season... Still a great year, and would love to have him again, but hurns might be better value later in the draft....

 
mphtrilogy said:
If hurns wasnt there, he would have had a r moss type of season... Still a great year, and would love to have him again, but hurns might be better value later in the draft....
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assuming he has an average game this week, he will have about 1350 and 15. That is a Randy Moss type year.
 
offdee said:
Mr. Brownstone said:
‏@Jaguars

WR @Thee_AR15 reached a speed of 21.8 MPH on his 90-yard TD. That's the eighth-fastest speed on a TD this year.

He ran a 4.6 40 at the combine.
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Mid 4.4's at his Pro Day. 42" vertical.
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I never considered him a speedster and it was surprising to see him roast Browner like that, but one thing to keep in mind with Robinson is that he was just 20 years old (actually closer to 19 than 21) when he was tested at the combine. He is extremely young for his class standing, so it seems more likely that he had more physical development left in the tank compared with guys who were 21-23 during the testing.

 
EBF said:
offdee said:
Mr. Brownstone said:
‏@Jaguars

WR @Thee_AR15 reached a speed of 21.8 MPH on his 90-yard TD. That's the eighth-fastest speed on a TD this year.

He ran a 4.6 40 at the combine.
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Mid 4.4's at his Pro Day. 42" vertical.
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I never considered him a speedster and it was surprising to see him roast Browner like that, but one thing to keep in mind with Robinson is that he was just 20 years old (actually closer to 19 than 21) when he was tested at the combine. He is extremely young for his class standing, so it seems more likely that he had more physical development left in the tank compared with guys who were 21-23 during the testing.
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yeah, he's going to be younger than many WR's in this upcoming draft. He plays much faster than the 4.6 he posted at the combine.

Bummed i completely whiffed on this guy, he's a freak and a top 10 dynasty WR.

 
One stat I found velly intellesting from Mr. Robinson was his catches over 25 yards...

1. Allen Robinson: 31

2. Antonio Brown: 25

2. Julio Jones: 25

4. Gronkowski: 22

5. Evans: 21

 
ILUVBEER99 said:
EBF said:
offdee said:
Mr. Brownstone said:
‏@Jaguars

WR @Thee_AR15 reached a speed of 21.8 MPH on his 90-yard TD. That's the eighth-fastest speed on a TD this year.

He ran a 4.6 40 at the combine.
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Mid 4.4's at his Pro Day. 42" vertical.
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I never considered him a speedster and it was surprising to see him roast Browner like that, but one thing to keep in mind with Robinson is that he was just 20 years old (actually closer to 19 than 21) when he was tested at the combine. He is extremely young for his class standing, so it seems more likely that he had more physical development left in the tank compared with guys who were 21-23 during the testing.
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yeah, he's going to be younger than many WR's in this upcoming draft. He plays much faster than the 4.6 he posted at the combine.

Bummed i completely whiffed on this guy, he's a freak and a top 10 dynasty WR.
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I didn't whiff on him, but traded him away before the season (along with a little extra) for Ameer Abdullah. Ugh. Could have been sitting here with Julio, Hopkins, Watkins and Robinson......
 
What a year. Happy to have him in at least one dynasty. Not so happy I turned down Calvin for ARob + Fitz in another league in the offseason :(

 
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