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It’s his 20th different time back on these boards under a different name - it’s always so obvious when he comes back. Same pattern every time. Now I’m not saying he won’t pay his bets (I have no idea) but don’t be shocked if he disappears (maybe not even voluntarily) and comes back under a new name.
As a Bears fan, aRob had a bad year last year. It was a bad situation where the team basically shut out the coaching staff. I think we will have a good idea after 3-4 games about him. He should get more chances as teams will have to change how they defense kupp.
I am also a Bears fan. I kept telling myself that R Woods would get more chances as well. It didn’t happen until he openly complained and then went off on a Thursday night.
Robert Woods is a good comparison
I’m a total novice at watching those all 22 and taking things from it but I see a lot of ARob having space in zone and instead of settling down, running himself into coverage.
I figured it out when he said that I was intimidated by him. That’s an old line of his. I actually made a post about how he should change up his shtick it’s so old now but deleted it - don’t want to deal with him again.
I saw the same. There’s always a dude over the top in bracket coverage, which is exactly what Stafford said he doesn’t like throwing into.
Wow you’re trying to help out after a horrible performance that 30M people witnessed? Can I pay you for this timely analysis.
Bro, have fun with your WR that has only eclipsed 1,000 yards in 3 of 8 seasons. I don't need to argue anything else beyond that. Have fun with your dud, I'm just trying to help out.
Bro I had you on ignore I can’t help it you keep changing your username.Wow you’re trying to help out after a horrible performance that 30M people witnessed? Can I pay you for this timely analysis.
Bro, have fun with your WR that has only eclipsed 1,000 yards in 3 of 8 seasons. I don't need to argue anything else beyond that. Have fun with your dud, I'm just trying to help out.
Here's the funny thing about the situation. Look at this rude comment @Capella made to me yesterday. I don't even know what his point is. I'm not allowed to comment on Allen Robinson because 30M people watched the game Sunday night? Is that supposed to be some kind of burn, I don't understand.
It is apropos for somebody who is actually being a bad person to try and transpose his behavior onto others. Your one little comment here is way ruder than anything I've posted in this thread, but somehow you'll convince yourself that I'm bad guy.
Here's my proposition for you Cappy. Ignore me. I don't want anything to do with you and if your interaction with me is going to be mocking me for sharing a fantasy opinion and then trying to drag my name through the mud as if I'm the one mocking people, hard pass. Like I said before, have fun with your dud WR. Don't be mad at me because Robinson only scored 2.2 fantasy points.
The combination of poor offensive line against a great D gave Stafford no chance. It was three step drop “Where’s Cooper?”
[Every DC in the NFL]Hold it! We're supposed to defend Cooper Kupp??? Why didn't anyone tell me??
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You just literally described 90% of Fantasy WR1s let alone WR2/FLEX guys
Yup. I got him at pick 54 in round 6 so not a huge investment. Certainly won’t be my only bust if he doesn’t work out.You just literally described 90% of Fantasy WR1s let alone WR2/FLEX guys
To be clear, I don't think anyone in here is implying Arob is going to be a stud Fantasy WR.... at least they shouldn't be. His ADP is WR21. That means he's got to be a low end WR2 or solid Flex to pay off at ADP. Anything above that is a bonus. Last year's HORRIBLE numbers, normalizing Catch rate (was playing with a terrible rookie QB) and TDs (Rams O >> Bears O) and he would have been around WR32.
GIven the significant investment in money, the FAR superior offense, the gushing coachspeak, the film of him still getting separation, etc.... I think it's pretty safe to assume Arob will pay off at ADP.
If the owner is panicking and the price is right... swipe him.
No, I don’t think that describes most WR’s.You just literally described 90% of Fantasy WR1s let alone WR2/FLEX guys
To be clear, I don't think anyone in here is implying Arob is going to be a stud Fantasy WR.... at least they shouldn't be. His ADP is WR21. That means he's got to be a low end WR2 or solid Flex to pay off at ADP. Anything above that is a bonus. Last year's HORRIBLE numbers, normalizing Catch rate (was playing with a terrible rookie QB) and TDs (Rams O >> Bears O) and he would have been around WR32.
GIven the significant investment in money, the FAR superior offense, the gushing coachspeak, the film of him still getting separation, etc.... I think it's pretty safe to assume Arob will pay off at ADP with a reasonable chance he over-delivers as WR15ish performance ROY.
If the owner is panicking and the price is right... swipe him. I've only got one share but I'm looking to get more at the right price.
And the Bills barely blitzed.
Oh, I'm skeptical now too. Who wouldn't be after a 1/12 start with only 2 targets?
Honestly, after seeing some of the all 22, and reconsidering how much durress staff was under, and adding in the lack of time together, I agree there should be better times ahead. I think the Rams just need to completely forget about that game......and whoever has to play the Bills moving forward should be worried. They look like a juggernaut this year.
Oline is my biggest concern.
It's not as bad as Buffalo made it look (they'll be doing that to most teams) San Fran is the only team on the Rams schedule in the next 7 weeks who I'd have any concern about.
Hmmm...
I’m not saying he won’t pay. I have no idea what his history is there.
MC gas money?
From what I saw, they should be worried about every team on their schedule.
Ooooohhh yeah! That's the guy!
Why did I sing this in my head as I read it.
No, I don’t think that describes most WR’s.You just literally described 90% of Fantasy WR1s let alone WR2/FLEX guys
To be clear, I don't think anyone in here is implying Arob is going to be a stud Fantasy WR.... at least they shouldn't be. His ADP is WR21. That means he's got to be a low end WR2 or solid Flex to pay off at ADP. Anything above that is a bonus. Last year's HORRIBLE numbers, normalizing Catch rate (was playing with a terrible rookie QB) and TDs (Rams O >> Bears O) and he would have been around WR32.
GIven the significant investment in money, the FAR superior offense, the gushing coachspeak, the film of him still getting separation, etc.... I think it's pretty safe to assume Arob will pay off at ADP with a reasonable chance he over-delivers as WR15ish performance ROY.
If the owner is panicking and the price is right... swipe him. I've only got one share but I'm looking to get more at the right price.
You are banking on off-season coach speak and I was banking on watching A Rob every Sunday as a Bear. Plus that whole R Woods thing last season. I don’t see the value here, but I won’t knock anyone that does.
I wish you and everyone the best of luck! I know I placed my bet on him NOT being the WR21 or better. We’ll know the correct answer in a few months!No, I don’t think that describes most WR’s.You just literally described 90% of Fantasy WR1s let alone WR2/FLEX guys
To be clear, I don't think anyone in here is implying Arob is going to be a stud Fantasy WR.... at least they shouldn't be. His ADP is WR21. That means he's got to be a low end WR2 or solid Flex to pay off at ADP. Anything above that is a bonus. Last year's HORRIBLE numbers, normalizing Catch rate (was playing with a terrible rookie QB) and TDs (Rams O >> Bears O) and he would have been around WR32.
GIven the significant investment in money, the FAR superior offense, the gushing coachspeak, the film of him still getting separation, etc.... I think it's pretty safe to assume Arob will pay off at ADP with a reasonable chance he over-delivers as WR15ish performance ROY.
If the owner is panicking and the price is right... swipe him. I've only got one share but I'm looking to get more at the right price.
You are banking on off-season coach speak and I was banking on watching A Rob every Sunday as a Bear. Plus that whole R Woods thing last season. I don’t see the value here, but I won’t knock anyone that does.
I mentioned 4 causes for optimism... you honed in on coachspeak for some reason? Well, i can think of one reason...
VERY few startable WRs are without several down weeks, or weeks saved by garbage time.
I watched every game/play for Arob last year as well as I owned him in a $400 buy in league. I'm intimately aware of his lack of performance.
Nobody is arguing his stats didn't drop off last year. However in the two previous years with that same NFL team he averaged a very respectable 16 (2019 WR8) and 16.4 (2020 WR9) PPG in PPR... a team with an offense that isn't nearly as productive as this Ram's offense. What changed?
Some seem to think he had a massive skill drop off at age 28. Others seem to recognize it was more due to a combination of inept offensive gameplan, injury, and putrid QB play.
For what it's worth, PFF gave him a respectable 67 receiving grade last year, WELL above his competition Van Jefferson's 59.5.
IMO the only way Robinson doesn't deliver on his WR21 ADP is if he's inexplicably not targeted like the WR he was signed to be.
Time will tell.
Eh. The narrative would have been “2 catches, and had one not been a TD he woulda been a complete bust.”
I'm chalking a lot of the underperformance on the pass rush that the Rams had no answer for. Stafford was trying to get the ball out quick and he completely relied on the guy he is comfortable with. I think this is one of those situations where there's panic because it's week 1 and it was the first game of the season so everyone was watching. There are many situations that look a lot more dire after week 1 than this one IMO.
From what I saw there were plenty of times Stafford could have hit an open A-Rob. My worry after watching the game was that Stafford never even looked in A-Rob's direction. There was only one play where A-Rob was the primary read and that was the heave at the end of the game. Even his catch was on a broken play where he was the 3rd read for Stafford. Most of the time at the snap Stafford would never even look to A-Rob's side. He only had eyes for Kupp which is fine most of the time but he did also force the ball in when nothing was there instead of looking elsewhere. Now there may have been other reasons why A-Rob was never a primary read but the fact it never happened is the biggest red flag for me.
People keep saying this while ignoring that an unheralded 5th round second year WR was able to surpass 1,000 yards in the same exact situation.
Stafford should blame himself for not giving Robinson a chance to make a jump ball out of it. DB played it perfectly and kept himself between Robinson and the back of the end zone. Not like the DB thought they were going to throw it short.
He's a must start for me as I see them making a point to get ARob involved next week. Also, I only have Toney or DeVante Parker to replace him, so I'm basically choosing which guy to get 2.4 pts from.
Yeah, in a 12 team or greater redraft that starts 3 WRs, probably not a lot of better options.
