WR Brandin Cooks, Free Agent (2 Viewers)

[cstu]

He's not Antonio Brown and it's pretty safe to say he never will be. Antonio Brown is one of the best WR in the NFL and on his way to being one of the best WR of all time.

If you had said that about Brown after week 3 of his 2nd season people would have laughed at you.

I'm not saying Cooks will have the success Brown has had the last 3 years. Odds are against it.

But the point is that its still early in making those kind of determinations.

Exactly.

Brown had 10/156/0 the first 3 games of his second year and had never had game as good as Cooks has had already.

 

[Milkman]

Lol the odds of Cooks being A. Brown are laughable. It's not happening.

 

[CanaBuc]

COoks for dynasty is one thing but in redraft he is just mediocre

 

[NajehHejan]

Not that I have many good alternatives but I'm staying patient with Cooks for a few more weeks in redraft. Brees is getting healthy, and the schedule will get easier. I gave up on Keenan Allen last year and it bit me. Same for Torrey Smith the year before. These young talented receivers often start off slow. Sure they'll kill you if you wait too long and they don't turn it around, but unless there is a solid gem sparkling on top of the waiver wire heap, too early to bail now.

 

[jtd13]

Lol the odds of Cooks being A. Brown are laughable. It's not happening.

The odds are better that it doesn't happen than it does, but not laughable. Cooks has Brown's physical ability (plus some), but not his polish or his situation. However, he turned 22 1 freaking month ago, and he seems to have the attitude to put work in.

About the situation, you saw last night that Antonio Brown isn't even Antonio Brown when you take away Roethlisberger. Hell, he kinda looked like Cooks last night

 

[Milkman]

Lol the odds of Cooks being A. Brown are laughable. It's not happening.

The odds are better that it doesn't happen than it does, but not laughable. Cooks has Brown's physical ability (plus some), but not his polish or his situation. However, he turned 22 1 freaking month ago, and he seems to have the attitude to put work in. About the situation, you saw last night that Antonio Brown isn't even Antonio Brown when you take away Roethlisberger. Hell, he kinda looked like Cooks last night

Yeah Rothlisberger is underrated. Still don't think Cooks is as good as Antonio Brown or ever will be. He wouldn't put Brown numbers up playing with Big Ben.

 

[JuniorNB]

Lol the odds of Cooks being A. Brown are laughable. It's not happening.

Bold prediction, dude

 

[Milkman]

Lol the odds of Cooks being A. Brown are laughable. It's not happening.

Bold prediction, dude

You're trolling right?

 

[JuniorNB]

Lol the odds of Cooks being A. Brown are laughable. It's not happening.

Bold prediction, dude

You're trolling right?

I thought you were. I highly doubt you were here during Brown's first few seasons predicting what a weapon he would become. There's not much different in Cooks and Brown's size, quickness, or elusiveness. To say the comparison is 'laughable' is just silly.

 

[cstu]

Lol the odds of Cooks being A. Brown are laughable. It's not happening.

Bold prediction, dude

You're trolling right?

I thought you were. I highly doubt you were here during Brown's first few seasons predicting what a weapon he would become. There's not much different in Cooks and Brown's size, quickness, or elusiveness. To say the comparison is 'laughable' is just silly.

The main difference is how hard Brown worked to develop his route running. In 2018, Cooks will be the same age Brown was when he broke out.

 

[Milkman]

Lol the odds of Cooks being A. Brown are laughable. It's not happening.

Bold prediction, dude

You're trolling right?

I thought you were. I highly doubt you were here during Brown's first few seasons predicting what a weapon he would become. There's not much different in Cooks and Brown's size, quickness, or elusiveness. To say the comparison is 'laughable' is just silly.

Every WR drafted has a very small chance of becoming the best WR in the league. So yes the odds are extremely long and dare I say laughable.

 

[JuniorNB]

Lol the odds of Cooks being A. Brown are laughable. It's not happening.

Bold prediction, dude

You're trolling right?

I thought you were. I highly doubt you were here during Brown's first few seasons predicting what a weapon he would become. There's not much different in Cooks and Brown's size, quickness, or elusiveness. To say the comparison is 'laughable' is just silly.

Every WR drafted has a very small chance of becoming the best WR in the league. So yes the odds are extremely long and dare I say laughable.

Good point. You can tell that you're a student of the game.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

ok, so if Brees plays he is a must start at home? or no?

 

[Kenny Powers]

He's gonna be in 1 of my flexes for sure with Brees (likely) playing

 

[Milkman]

Basically ignored on that drive. Yawn.

 

[jtd13]

Basically ignored on that drive. Yawn.

That does it then. He can safely be dropped in all formats Ftr, he was the target on the first pass.

 

[Milkman]

Dude I want him to succeed trust me. I just see stuff I don't like. Like him getting abused at the LOS. Brees and Cooks don't seem to have any kind of connection either......It's concerning.

 

[jurb26]

Basically ignored on that drive. Yawn.

That does it then. He can safely be dropped in all formats Ftr, he was the target on the first pass.

Pretty sure it was the second pass. He was blanketed by the CB, though.

 

[cubbie5150]

Dude I want him to succeed trust me. I just see stuff I don't like. Like him getting abused at the LOS. Brees and Cooks don't seem to have any kind of connection either......It's concerning.

That's what is weird to me. I read in several article that Cooks was basically attached to Brees' hip in the offseason. I pay too damn much attention to b.s. stories like that, when I'm trying to rationalize a draft pick decision. Willie Snead might be the WR to own in this offense, LMAO.

 

[jtd13]

Where was he abused at the line of scrimmage? I didn't see that play.

I did notice he drew safety help on a few routes and guys like Snead were wide open as a result.

 

[Milkman]

Where was he abused at the line of scrimmage? I didn't see that play.

I did notice he drew safety help on a few routes and guys like Snead were wide open as a result.

When he lined up to Brees right in the slot. He got destroyed.

 

[jtd13]

Maybe that was on the first target that i missed. I saw him get around a jam cleanly when he lined up on the slot, but don't remember any other plays from the slot.

 

[Milkman]

He wasn't targeted on the play. He never got off the LOS.

 

[jtd13]

That drive sucked. Brees hasn't thrown more than 10 yards downfield the last couple drives.

 

[Ghost Rider]

What's worrisome is they seem to have no plays designed to get the ball into his hands. And they wonder why they can't score.

 

[jurb26]

What's worrisome is they seem to have no plays designed to get the ball into his hands. And they wonder why they can't score.

They ran 2 plays designed to get the ball in his hands. Neither worked because he's not getting open.

 

[RealReactions]

What's worrisome is they seem to have no plays designed to get the ball into his hands. And they wonder why they can't score.

They ran 2 plays designed to get the ball in his hands. Neither worked because he's not getting open.

Its brees... The backup got the ball in his hands multiple times when he took over. Need brees to get benched for cooks to be relevant.

 

[jurb26]

What's worrisome is they seem to have no plays designed to get the ball into his hands. And they wonder why they can't score.

They ran 2 plays designed to get the ball in his hands. Neither worked because he's not getting open.

Its brees... The backup got the ball in his hands multiple times when he took over. Need brees to get benched for cooks to be relevant.

Brees does look like crap.

 

[Ghost Rider]

What's worrisome is they seem to have no plays designed to get the ball into his hands. And they wonder why they can't score.

They ran 2 plays designed to get the ball in his hands. Neither worked because he's not getting open.

A whopping two plays in a half? Color me not impressed. I agree that Cooks seems to be struggling to get open, but you't think they be designing some plays for their playmakers. I can't remember a NO offense looking this vanilla.

 

[Ilov80s]

Totally useless

 

[LOCO]

Thanks heaven for Keenan Allen. Never would have image that draft time.

 

[Loipz]

Regret taking this guy in 2/4 leagues. I was so high on him.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Awful

 

[ILUVBEER99]

he hasn't had a 100 yard game yet in his career. he's decent but not the stud FF player people were expecting.

 

[Deamon]

Regret taking this guy in 2/4 leagues. I was so high on him.

EVeryone was. I wanted him badly but just missed out on him everywhere. Thankfully.

 

[Bri]

Carr has done well 3 of 4 weeks this year

 

[addicted2ff]

After trading away their best offensive weapon in Jimmy Graham to get Max Unger, a center, and still having the same run/pass split as the last 2 years, I'm thinking Cooks' lack of production probably has more to do with the coaching staff's incompetence and infatuation of having 10+ different receivers in a game.

 

[Ojaays]

Not sure what the numbers are, but it seemed like Snead had more targets than Cooks.

It might as simple as, he's the one that's open.

 

[Daywalker]

Small Brees needs big targets.

 

[Madden Curse]

Brandin Cooks is this year's last year's Tavon Austin.

Meaning check back in 2016, I guess.

 

[JuniorNB]

Just horrible. The guy seems to have peaked in preseason.

 

[HairySasquatch]

Cooks seems to have a difficult time when jammed at the line of scrimmage. Then add in that Brees is looking like Manning with the inability to throw the ball farther than 15+ yards down the field. So Cooks isn't getting open on the shorter routes and Brees can't hit him on the longer routes. I wish I wasn't so highly invested in Cooks.

 

[shader]

I've never understood the fascination with Cooks. Even last year, announcers would talk about how unbelievable he was, how explosive and dynamic he is going to be...but I just don't see it.

Seems like Kendall Wright is his ceiling.

 

[packer_junkie]

50% of his routes yesterday he never even got into cause Claiborne just pinked him at the LOS....

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Yep he cant beat the press coverage. Really bad bust. Cant even play him in ppr

 

[mphtrilogy]

Is he droppable?

 

[LionOfGosforth]

I've never understood the fascination with Cooks. Even last year, announcers would talk about how unbelievable he was, how explosive and dynamic he is going to be...but I just don't see it.

Seems like Kendall Wright is his ceiling.

I'd rather have Kendall Wright too. I said earlier in the thread that he was this year's Cordarelle Patterson. I had my tongue in my cheek of course but I felt he was ridiculously over-valued before the season started. A third rounder (rough ADP) for a guy with like 500 yards last year?

 

[Ilov80s]

I've never understood the fascination with Cooks. Even last year, announcers would talk about how unbelievable he was, how explosive and dynamic he is going to be...but I just don't see it.

Seems like Kendall Wright is his ceiling.

I'd rather have Kendall Wright too. I said earlier in the thread that he was this year's Cordarelle Patterson. I had my tongue in my cheek of course but I felt he was ridiculously over-valued before the season started. A third rounder (rough ADP) for a guy with like 500 yards last year?

Those damn preseason games suckered me right in. It looked like he was the focal point of the offense.

 

[LionOfGosforth]

I've never understood the fascination with Cooks. Even last year, announcers would talk about how unbelievable he was, how explosive and dynamic he is going to be...but I just don't see it.

Seems like Kendall Wright is his ceiling.

I'd rather have Kendall Wright too. I said earlier in the thread that he was this year's Cordarelle Patterson. I had my tongue in my cheek of course but I felt he was ridiculously over-valued before the season started. A third rounder (rough ADP) for a guy with like 500 yards last year?

Those damn preseason games suckered me right in. It looked like he was the focal point of the offense.

Brees' injury doesn't help in getting the ball down the field but what would disturb me if I owned him on any team is just how little Brees even looks at him or targets him. There's still time yet for him to return some value on the investment but it needs to happen sooner rather than later.

 

[stbugs]

I've never understood the fascination with Cooks. Even last year, announcers would talk about how unbelievable he was, how explosive and dynamic he is going to be...but I just don't see it.

Seems like Kendall Wright is his ceiling.

I'd rather have Kendall Wright too. I said earlier in the thread that he was this year's Cordarelle Patterson. I had my tongue in my cheek of course but I felt he was ridiculously over-valued before the season started. A third rounder (rough ADP) for a guy with like 500 yards last year?

C'mon, he's been bad, but saying 500 yards last year ignores the fact that he played only 10 games. He had 69 targets for 53-550-3 and 7 rushes for 73 yards and 1 TD. In a full season, that is 110 targets for 85-880-5TDs and 11 carries for 117 yards and 1 TD. In PPR, that was #18 last year, just behind Smith Sr and Edelman and ahead of AJ Green and Matthews. He was 10-15% behind Evans, a couple points behind Benjamin and 10-15% better than Matthews.

That was where the optimism was from, he isn't Patterson, period. He's been disappointing, but he would have finished last year as a mid WR2 as a rookie and now had Graham gone, so likely an uptick in targets. To think that he could just build a bit on targets alone, you were looking at finishing around WR12 or so.

I watched last week's game as a Carolina fan and McCown went to Cooks often and he played well. 7-79 on 8 targets. Not as many targets as you'd want based on his expectations, but Josh Norman is as good a CB as he has faced (Peterson the other).