Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Last place team and pretty well stacked at WR. Maybe using the picks to acquire someone else who also has WR’s. That’s my guess anyway but who’s knows.
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WR Brandin Cooks, Free Agent (3 Viewers)
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Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Brandin Cooks: 26 catches, 452 yards.
All of the Patriots' wide receivers combined: 27 catches, 265 yards.
A: Everyone knows the leading receivers on the Patriots are Gronk and the RB's.
B. Things somehow always look more favorable when comparing 4 games to 3.
Other than that it's a great point.
mnmplayer
Footballguy
he's consistent too in 2018. Love those solid floors. TDs will come, he barely missed two last week.
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
What's up with Cooks heading into week 6? Concussion protocol or playing?
Peak
Footballguy
kneeshooter
Footballguy
https://twitter.com/MylesASimmons/status/1050477992219033600
#LARams HC Sean McVay says WRs Brandin Cooks and Cooper Kupp (concussion) will participate in individual drills today. If they get through everything symptom free, they’ll practice in full tomorrow. And if they get through tomorrow fine, they’ll be good to go for Sunday.
#LARams HC Sean McVay says WRs Brandin Cooks and Cooper Kupp (concussion) will participate in individual drills today. If they get through everything symptom free, they’ll practice in full tomorrow. And if they get through tomorrow fine, they’ll be good to go for Sunday.
HULLOBUDMAN
Footballguy
Monster day this week. Pick up in targets and now Kupp is unfortunately done for the year with an ACL. Does the Kupp injury elevate Cooks into a WR1?
He is #18 already ppg in my scoring system so not too far to go.
He is #18 already ppg in my scoring system so not too far to go.
I would think it does. He's now a high volume big play threat. Top-10 is very reasonable.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Realistically he's already a WR1. His ppg is deflated by the game where he got a 0 after leaving early with a concussion. Throwing that game out he's at 18.3ppg which is top 10 in the league.
I also don't think it's a coincidence that his worst game of the year that he actually played the whole thing was the week immediately following the injury. Realistically outside of that one big hit screwing him up for a week or so he's been pretty incredible.
Regarding Kupp, both Cooks and Woods' numbers actually declined in the two games Kupp missed a few weeks ago, though obviously two games isn't much of a sample size.
Cooks is pretty much a must start now. He had one game where he got knocked out early, and the next 2 where he got 5 & 6 targets. The other 7 games he has 8 or more targets. At this point, I think 8 targets is his floor. With his 70% catch rate and 16.8 YPC, that puts him around 5/6 catches and 94 YPG.
Milkman
Footballguy
Interseptopus
Footballguy
some seriously talented wrs next year. top 3 may be wrs. not sure if Harris will sneak in there, but it's possible.
ex-ghost
Footballguy
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Harry may be the best wr prospect in the last 5 years, so its tempting. Depends on where these guys go.
If I had Cooks I would want a 1.1-1.3 and something else. 1.1 alone is not worth him imo. Maybe 1.1 and a 2018 rookie wr like James Washington or Gallup.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
if Harry goes to Buffalo hes off draft board. NYJ, Baltimore, Vleveland would be a dream
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/brandin-cooks-paying-team-custodian-195826844.ht
Nice to see one of my favorite player is a class act.
Manster
Footballguy
Manster
Footballguy
A lot of the talking heads are saying they expect the Pats to take Woods and Cooks out of the game.....I dunno. Cooks got knocked out of last year's SB by that vicious hit, early. This year will be different......I think he has something like an 8 for 90 and teeter kind of stat line.....McVay and Goff will figure out how to get him the ball in space.
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Anarchy99
Footballguy
Cooks is a bit of a head scratcher. He's been on three of the most prolific offenses the last few years. Not sure why he's been passed around the league some. Over the last 4 seasons, he ranked as the #5 fantasy WR based on total points scored in 0 PPR leagues. However, he played in every game while other top receivers did not. His year end rankings have been 12, 8, 7, 13. Given the amount of mouths to feed in LAR, I am not sure he makes a leap to another level. I think we've seen where he ends up producing at the end of the year each year, and that's low end WR1 / high end WR2 numbers.
I think he’s been passed around because he’s not a true #1 WR. The saints and patriots both decided not to pay #1 prices for him. He’s a solid #2 WR, for both nfl and fantasy.
Doug B
Footballguy
Cooks would still be in New Orleans today if he'd been willing to take the WR2 role in the Saints offense next to Michael Thomas' WR1. Complaining about targets on Twitter after a blowout win also put him in Sean Payton's doghouse. In retrospect, I wish there had been a way to make it all work, but the egos involved were a bit too big.
jtd13
Footballguy
Pats and Saints not wanting to pay him #1 salaries doesn't make him not an NFL WR1. Just makes the Pats and Saints teams that don't like paying current NFL WR1 prices. He's a solid WR1 in the NFL, just not an elite WR1.
It’s evidence to support what I think about cooks. I have no doubt the saints will pay Michael Thomas WR1 prices.
jtd13
Footballguy
So who are the 32 better WRs than Cooks? That's just a goofy statement that he's not an NFL WR1.
jtd13
Footballguy
Would NO have given him an $80m+ extension with a year left on his contract? I'd have to say Cooks' "business decision" was the right move for him if it was really the impetus for him getting moved.
I don’t think there are 32 WR1 caliber wr’s. A lot of #1 guys are in over their heads. I can put together a list later if you’d like and cooks will probably be between 25-35. But I think there are really only about 10-15 true WR1’s in the league currently. If it matters, I don’t think cooks is the best wr on the rams.
jtd13
Footballguy
Opposing DCs seemed to think Cooks was the best WR on the Rams. If a team shadowed a WR while all 3 were healthy, they shadowed Cooks.
I know you're probably just saying Cooks isn't the size of a #1 NFL WR, but 1200 yards against top coverage seems like a #1 WR to me
Doug B
Footballguy
I don't want to sift through the SB thread but is anyone questioning his effort on that Goff interception? Seems like he was running half ***** down the field and not expecting the ball at all?
Did he know the call? Was he watching to see if it was a blitz? Seemed pretty lackadaisical to me. Is it just me?
Did he know the call? Was he watching to see if it was a blitz? Seemed pretty lackadaisical to me. Is it just me?
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Playing every game always skews end of year rankings. I find it best to look at points per game.
From a points per game perspective, he finished:
2018-WR18
2017-WR19
2016-WR12
2015-WR20
I think he's a great fit on the Rams. I don't think any of their three WRs count as a true NFL WR1, but do they really need to? All three are very good players - as a whole they might be the best WR trio in the league. That being said, I still believe trading a 1st and giving out a huge contract to Cooks was probably not in their best interest long term. I still think Albert Wilson would've filled Cooks' role sufficiently while allowing them the flexibility to use that draft capital and salary cap elsewhere. But for fantasy purposes, it is a great spot for Cooks - I don't think he was ever going to be a 150 target guy, so getting locked in for a multi-year contract on a creative, high potency offense with top 5 snaps/game is about as good as his owners could hope for. He'll be a solid WR2 for years to come.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Very similar players. I don't mean that negatively against Cooks, but watch Wilson sometime. The dude is electric and is adept at getting separation. Very underrated. They could have signed him as a free agent (no need to trade the 1st) and he cost almost exactly half per year what Cooks costs. He's only one year older.
FWIW, I don't own any Wilson shares. Maybe I'm just a sucker for PFF/advanced stats, but I feel like I was always reading good things about his separation numbers and yards after the catch. I thought his early success in Miami validated my opinion, but I suppose there are still doubters. And I'm not saying I'm 100% certain I was right, but even if Wilson was more than a minor step down from Cooks, a large part of that mental equation was the opportunity cost in acquiring/signing Cooks.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
From a cost/benefit analysis maybe you are correct in that they would be better off with their pick plus cap space - I just disagree with the statement that "Albert Wilson would've filled Cooks' role sufficiently" and I have seen him play.
Ok. I'm not sure what you're looking for from me then. Should I have just replied "yes"?
rockaction
Footballguy
Anarchy is right on this. Why does he bounce around so much?
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
I think people overlook what Cooks' was doing prior to the Rams offense falling apart in week 12 or so. At that point he was on pace for around 1400-1500 yards despite basically missing a game.
If you believe the Rams will bounce back to what they were for the first half of last season he could be a pretty good buy. Everyone has settled back into the "meh he's a solid WR2 I guess" but 2/3's of the way through the season people were going fairly gaga over him.
If you believe the Rams will bounce back to what they were for the first half of last season he could be a pretty good buy. Everyone has settled back into the "meh he's a solid WR2 I guess" but 2/3's of the way through the season people were going fairly gaga over him.
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