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WR Carlton Mitchell-South Florida (1 Viewer)

Ministry of Pain

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I really like what this kid brings to the table. He has great size at 6'3" 215, had pretty good numbers last season but also had his starting QB Matt Groethe go out the 1st couple games of the season so I also feel he had an uphill climb too. Certainly not one of the 1st 4-5 WR that will be drafted but he will get selected somewhere and I feel his size will help get him a starting gig sooner rather than later.

Ran a 4.48/4.49 so he isn't slow for his size at all.

Any Bullsfans that can shed some light here?

 
I've nearly posted this about 5 different times. Those whom I talk to outside of these boards know how I feel about this kid. And, I've mentioned it here as well, but I didn't want to put it all out there because I'd really like to snag him in the mid 2nd.

So, shhhhhhhhhh.

 
Watched a lot of USF football. Can't say I ever even thought the guy was an NFL prospect while watching him. Ended up being productive last year as it turns out, but seems to disappear for long stretches. USF's QB situation (Grothe getting hurt) clearly didn't help him.

Not super-tall, but strong as hell and compact. Seemed to drop a fair share of passes. Leavitt wasn't what you would call a disiplinarian either, so things like route-running weren't a priority.

I am surprised to see him getting this kind of talk, but he may have been just a product of his environment.

 
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Watched a lot of USF football. Can't say I ever even thought the guy was an NFL prospect while watching him. Ended up being productive last year as it turns out, but seems to disappear for long stretches. USF's QB situation (Grothe getting hurt) clearly didn't help him.

Not super-tall, but strong as hell and compact. Seemed to drop a fair share of passes. Leavitt wasn't what you would call a disiplinarian either, so things like route-running weren't a priority.

I am surprised to see him getting this kind of talk, but he may have been just a product of his environment.
If the OP is correct, 6'3" is pretty tall... Never heard of the guy as I don't follow college ball. Just sayin' is all.
 
Watched a lot of USF football. Can't say I ever even thought the guy was an NFL prospect while watching him. Ended up being productive last year as it turns out, but seems to disappear for long stretches. USF's QB situation (Grothe getting hurt) clearly didn't help him.

Not super-tall, but strong as hell and compact. Seemed to drop a fair share of passes. Leavitt wasn't what you would call a disiplinarian either, so things like route-running weren't a priority.

I am surprised to see him getting this kind of talk, but he may have been just a product of his environment.
If the OP is correct, 6'3" is pretty tall... Never heard of the guy as I don't follow college ball. Just sayin' is all.
Beat me to it.
 
I think he's a fine project WR for some team.

From Scout.com:

4. Carlton Mitchell, South Florida 6-4, 215

Post-Combine Skinny: Talk about looking the part, Mitchell is chiseled out of stone and had the workout to make everyone more interested in the game film. The 16 reps were fine, and the 10'2" broad jump was solid, but the 4.49 for a player that big created the necessary buzz. He could be a great value pick in the second round.

Pre-Combine Rank: 11

Positives: Devastating speed and size combination. He has all the tools to be special. … Not soft for being a speed receiver. He’s great at throwing his body around and is great at getting physical. … Limitless talent. He’s a relatively raw player who could blossom into something amazing.

Negatives: Needs a ton of work. The potential is there, but he needs time to grow into his upside. … Takes way too long to run his routes. Too much needless motion. … Not a natural receiver. He doesn’t do a good enough job to consistently grab the ball.

 
He's 6'3-4? Honestly didn't look like it out on the field, but I never got the measuring tape out either.

 
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/homepage/87616827.html

Carlton Mitchell’s alarm sounded at 3:45 a.m.

It was time.

The previous seven weeks had been his own personal training camp. Like many other prospects, Mitchell spent day and night preparing for the NFL scouting combine. Interviews, footwork, receiving drills, the 40-yard dash. Those were the things that were part of his training routine in North Miami. All in an effort to ready himself for the NFL’s job fair - over 300 prospects being tested, questioned and analyzed, as they continued their journey to football’s biggest stage.

“It was something I have always looked forward to,” Mitchell said. “Even the medical part, the poking and prodding, the interviews. I just wanted to have a good time with it.”

At the airport in Fort Lauderdale, Mitchell ran into some familiar faces: Ole Miss receiver Shay Hodge, West Virginia QB Jarrett Brown, Ohio’s Taylor Price. All on the same flight - headed to Indy.

On the plane, Mitchell tried to sleep, but that was difficult. At 6-3, 215, the man needs his space. So it didn’t help that he got stuck in a middle seat with little room to maneuver.

Plus, there was the excitement of the next few days.

“I tried to go to sleep, but I was too excited,” Mitchell said. “My body was tired, but my heart was racing. I couldn’t relax. I was just picturing in my head how everything was going to go.”

Finally, after a connection in Atlanta, Mitchell arrived at the airport in Indianapolis. He was greeted at the bottom of an escalator by a man calling out names, asking the prospects where they’re from, giving them instructions on where to get on the shuttle to the hotel.

After picking up his room keys and filling out some paperwork, Mitchell was given bags filled with Under Armour gear. Two warm-ups, three different shirts, a couple pairs of socks, skullies, hoodies, the works. Prospects were required to wear Under Armour gear throughout the workouts, so the company made sure each guy had plenty of apparel.

He dropped off his gear and met his roommate, Brandon James, from Florida before heading over to the hospital for medical testing.

When he arrived, several stations were set up. First, a heart test. Then a urine sample. Nothing major.

The third station, though, was a blood test. And not the kind the average person generally has.

“They take like six tubes of blood,” Mitchell said, adding that he was so intrigued he shot video of the testing with his phone. “I asked them ‘What do you do if someone passes out?’ I had donated blood in high school, but this was different.”

When the medical testing was done, it was nearly 4 p.m. - more than 12 hours after his day had started.

And Mitchell was hungry.

The combine provides meals for the prospects, but Mitchell wanted to continue with his personal nutritional routine, especially with the physical portion of the testing still to come. He met with his trainer, downed four peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, a banana and half a gallon of water.

Even though Mitchell had already experienced what amounted to a full day’s worth of activities, the combine was really just beginning.

At orientation, the leader of Mitchell’s group talked to the players about competing - something he took seriously, as Mitchell set a goal of participating in every single test that was offered.

After a visit to the Under Armour suite, a room at the hotel which housed more gear in different sizes for the players to choose from, it was interview time.

On the first night of the combine, there are two different kinds of interviews.

The first takes place in a large room. Think job fair, or open house. All 32 teams are represented by coaches, personnel guys, assistants, scouts, etc. A horn sounds every 5-10 minutes. And when it does, the interview is over, and the teams move on to the next prospect.

After meeting with various teams, 8 p.m. rolled around. And that meant it was time for the second kind of interview. This one took place privately, in a hotel suite, with a specific team.

Mitchell made sure he got to the suite early. He declined to mention the specific team, but when Mitchell walked in, there was a giant logo hanging up. About six men greeted him - three coaches, a GM, some members of the personnel staff.

“I was very prepared for this moment,” he said. “But until you experience it, you don’t know what it’s going to be like, so I was very nervous at first. I’m a people person, though, so I sat down and was ready for all their questions.”

Tell me about your family.

Have you ever been arrested?

Were you suspended for conduct reasons?

Why should we draft you?

What makes you special?

Those were the questions that followed. Mitchell provided answers. And after about 15 minutes, he was sent on his way with a backpack of gear from the team.

It was on to the next interview. This time, when Mitchell walked in, he was greeted by the bright light of a video camera. Notes weren’t enough. This team wanted the interview documented.

After similar questions, a coach turned on a TV. There was Mitchell on the screen. Last year’s game against Syracuse. A play where he caught a 33-yard touchdown pass. Mitchell was asked about every player’s assignment on the play. What would he have done if the defense were set up differently? If they were playing a different coverage?

Mitchell, who considers himself a student of the game, had answers. These were football questions. No problem.

After meeting with about 10 more teams in the “job fair” room, the first day was nearly over. Mitchell, who had been up for over 19 hours, met with his trainer one more time and grabbed a bite to eat.

There was no running, jumping or strength tests. Mitchell never even had a football in his hands.

The first day of the combine was about testing prospects’ health, and their personality.

Mitchell felt he passed with flying colors. But this was only Day 1. The next part would begin less than six hours later.
 
I have him rated at the top of my third tier alongside guys like Andre Roberts, Taylor Price, and Freddie Barnes.

He stands out from a height/speed standpoint, but didn't look special in the clips I saw. Decent straight line speed. Doesn't play with much power or elusiveness. I don't recall seeing him attack the football like you'd hope for with a tall WR. Then there's the issue of production. His career high is 40 receptions in a season for 706 yards and 4 TDs. Not exactly earth-shattering stats for an NFL talent in a fairly soft conference. Maybe it's the system. Maybe he's just not a playmaker.

He'll be a 2nd-3rd rounder on the basis of his workout numbers. I think he could've been a higher pick next year with a big senior season, but another quiet year might have diminished his perceived upside.

 
saw this when I was looking for Dez Bryant's workout info:

link

While Oklahoma State’s Dez Bryant was busy grabbing the headlines on Tuesday with unimpressive times of 4.52 and 4.68 in the 40-yard-dash, another wideout was busy turning heads in a good way.

AP

Carlton Mitchell continues to produce solid times in the 40.

Carlton Mitchell was clocked at a speedy 4.40 and 4.42 in his first attempt at the 40-yard-dash during South Florida’s pro day on Tuesday, according to a league source.

The 6’3”, 215-pound junior showed a nice improvement on the 4.47 40 he posted at the combine in Indianapolis last month. If anything, Mitchell’s ability to consistently run in the low to mid 4.4 range on different tracks will help solidify his place as one of the fastest receivers in this year’s draft class.

The 21-year-old caught 40 passes for 706 yards and four touchdowns for the Bulls in 2009. Mitchell’s size, speed and ability to step up in the vertical passing game make him one of the more intriguing wideout prospects on the board.

Update (3:58pm eastern): A third source has informed us that they had Mitchell timed at 4.46 in Tampa on Tuesday.
 
I think a guy like this if he grabbed in the early 3rd round could be a nice pick for teams that seem lost at WR...Miami, St Louis, Chicago, Denver...could make for an interesting pick depending on where he lands.

 
Watched a lot of USF football. Can't say I ever even thought the guy was an NFL prospect while watching him. Ended up being productive last year as it turns out, but seems to disappear for long stretches. USF's QB situation (Grothe getting hurt) clearly didn't help him.Not super-tall, but strong as hell and compact. Seemed to drop a fair share of passes. Leavitt wasn't what you would call a disiplinarian either, so things like route-running weren't a priority.I am surprised to see him getting this kind of talk, but he may have been just a product of his environment.
;)Guy should have stayed for his senior year. Just wasn't productive enough. Damn shame, because he's a good kid.
 
Might be time to play taps for this kid. Clev just drafted him.... :wall:
That's very disappointing. I'm not high on the Cleveland draft at all. Some like it but I don't. Mitchell will flounder around there for a couple years. Massaquoi got a big endorsement this weekend.
 
Kiper was comparing him to Brandon Marshall. Size wise I can see it. I don't know anything about Marshall's college career, but was he mediocre coming out of college as well? Goes to show if they have the skillset, they can develop rather nicely.

 
Kiper was comparing him to Brandon Marshall. Size wise I can see it. I don't know anything about Marshall's college career, but was he mediocre coming out of college as well? Goes to show if they have the skillset, they can develop rather nicely.
Eh. I don't buy the comparison really. Marshall is a lot stronger and more aggressive. I don't think Mitchell is going to make it in the NFL. He's like Limas Sweed without the jump ball skills.
 
Kiper was comparing him to Brandon Marshall. Size wise I can see it. I don't know anything about Marshall's college career, but was he mediocre coming out of college as well? Goes to show if they have the skillset, they can develop rather nicely.
Eh. I don't buy the comparison really. Marshall is a lot stronger and more aggressive. I don't think Mitchell is going to make it in the NFL. He's like Limas Sweed without the jump ball skills.
Tyrone Calico?
 
Might be time to play taps for this kid. Clev just drafted him.... :shrug:
That's very disappointing. I'm not high on the Cleveland draft at all. Some like it but I don't. Mitchell will flounder around there for a couple years. Massaquoi got a big endorsement this weekend.
I'm shocked that you would dump on a guy that you were high on because he went to Cleveland. Shocked.
Well the past few years it has worked out so well, the Browns really do deserve a lot more respect for their massive production of fantasy superstars.Oh wait...they had one season of Braylon Edwards being good. And...nothing...at...all...
 
Might be time to play taps for this kid. Clev just drafted him.... :shrug:
That's very disappointing. I'm not high on the Cleveland draft at all. Some like it but I don't. Mitchell will flounder around there for a couple years. Massaquoi got a big endorsement this weekend.
I'm shocked that you would dump on a guy that you were high on because he went to Cleveland. Shocked.
I don't like the QB situation and I sure don't like the idea of Colt McCoy. Maybe McCoy is just a development guy and they will look in 2011 for their franchise QB, but my initial reaction was a little underwhelmed. Versus...a guy like Jimmy Graham ends up in New Orleans. Some will say he is buried there but I like the fact they have a good passing game already. If Graham is any good he'll flourish there. Cleveland has not been a a great place for dyansty.
 
Might be time to play taps for this kid. Clev just drafted him.... :shrug:
That's very disappointing. I'm not high on the Cleveland draft at all. Some like it but I don't. Mitchell will flounder around there for a couple years. Massaquoi got a big endorsement this weekend.
I'm shocked that you would dump on a guy that you were high on because he went to Cleveland. Shocked.
Well the past few years it has worked out so well, the Browns really do deserve a lot more respect for their massive production of fantasy superstars.Oh wait...they had one season of Braylon Edwards being good. And...nothing...at...all...
It's true, a franchise that has had several down years can never produce success. Even if they draft all great players like super-stud Carlton Mitchell, they will still be doomed to failure.
 
Might be time to play taps for this kid. Clev just drafted him.... :shrug:
That's very disappointing. I'm not high on the Cleveland draft at all. Some like it but I don't. Mitchell will flounder around there for a couple years. Massaquoi got a big endorsement this weekend.
I'm shocked that you would dump on a guy that you were high on because he went to Cleveland. Shocked.
Well the past few years it has worked out so well, the Browns really do deserve a lot more respect for their massive production of fantasy superstars.Oh wait...they had one season of Braylon Edwards being good. And...nothing...at...all...
Yep it's a good thing they haven't changed anything like brought in a new, proven offensive system, a veteran QB, and have an offensive line that is approaching top 5 in the league. I don't know if this kid is going to produce but he landed in a very good situation for himself.
 
Might be time to play taps for this kid. Clev just drafted him.... :shrug:
That's very disappointing. I'm not high on the Cleveland draft at all. Some like it but I don't. Mitchell will flounder around there for a couple years. Massaquoi got a big endorsement this weekend.
I'm shocked that you would dump on a guy that you were high on because he went to Cleveland. Shocked.
I don't like the QB situation and I sure don't like the idea of Colt McCoy. Maybe McCoy is just a development guy and they will look in 2011 for their franchise QB, but my initial reaction was a little underwhelmed. Versus...a guy like Jimmy Graham ends up in New Orleans. Some will say he is buried there but I like the fact they have a good passing game already. If Graham is any good he'll flourish there. Cleveland has not been a a great place for dyansty.
Forgive me if I am a little higher on McCoy than most, I'm not used to hearing accuracy and QB in the same sentence for Cleveland. Also, I know people are down on Delhomme and I don't blame them with the way he turned it over last year but those same people really have no clue as to how bad the QB play in Cleveland has been. I've never seen a QB throw the ball OB more than Quinn and DA couldn't hit a guy in stride 5 yards away. At least with Delhomme there is a chance for a completion, it may be to the other team but he should help the WR numbers out considerably as well.
 
Might be time to play taps for this kid. Clev just drafted him.... :yucky:
That's very disappointing. I'm not high on the Cleveland draft at all. Some like it but I don't. Mitchell will flounder around there for a couple years. Massaquoi got a big endorsement this weekend.
I'm shocked that you would dump on a guy that you were high on because he went to Cleveland. Shocked.
Well the past few years it has worked out so well, the Browns really do deserve a lot more respect for their massive production of fantasy superstars.Oh wait...they had one season of Braylon Edwards being good. And...nothing...at...all...
Winslow was pretty decent.
 
Might be time to play taps for this kid. Clev just drafted him.... :yucky:
Nah.....one of the easiest possible routes to a starting job. Love this spot for him.
Is a great place to earn a start spot. If he's any good, we'll see. Brian Robiskie ring any bells? He was a much higher pick last year on the roster.
Robiske went about 2 rounds higher then he should of gone. And we still don't know if he'll be any good.
 
Might be time to play taps for this kid. Clev just drafted him.... :yucky:
That's very disappointing. I'm not high on the Cleveland draft at all. Some like it but I don't. Mitchell will flounder around there for a couple years. Massaquoi got a big endorsement this weekend.
I'm shocked that you would dump on a guy that you were high on because he went to Cleveland. Shocked.
Well the past few years it has worked out so well, the Browns really do deserve a lot more respect for their massive production of fantasy superstars.Oh wait...they had one season of Braylon Edwards being good. And...nothing...at...all...
yeah Harrison was terrible last yearLewis 1000 yds in 08Anderson, Lewis, Edwards, WInslow in 07Droughns, Bryant in 05
 
duece2626 said:
Instinctive said:
PizzaDeliveryGuy said:
Ministry of Pain said:
jurb26 said:
Might be time to play taps for this kid. Clev just drafted him.... :goodposting:
That's very disappointing. I'm not high on the Cleveland draft at all. Some like it but I don't. Mitchell will flounder around there for a couple years. Massaquoi got a big endorsement this weekend.
I'm shocked that you would dump on a guy that you were high on because he went to Cleveland. Shocked.
Well the past few years it has worked out so well, the Browns really do deserve a lot more respect for their massive production of fantasy superstars.Oh wait...they had one season of Braylon Edwards being good. And...nothing...at...all...
Winslow was pretty decent.
So was DA and Jamal that 1 particular year. I could be wrong, but wasn't Jamal top 5 that year?
 
http://dawgpounddaily.com/2010/08/01/2010-...and-tight-ends/

"But the Browns did manage to, at least on paper, improve the receiving group by adding rookie WR Carlton Mitchell from South Florida in the 5th round, as well as WR Bobby Engram in free agency and TE Ben Watson, also via free agency.

Mitchell is a bigger and potential playmaker by all accounts; It is very possible he could end up being one of the best “steals” of the 2010 draft. Some experts had him going as high as the 2nd or 3rd round if not for a change in QB’s from his junior to senior seasons at South Florida"

 
http://dawgpounddaily.com/2010/08/01/2010-...and-tight-ends/

"But the Browns did manage to, at least on paper, improve the receiving group by adding rookie WR Carlton Mitchell from South Florida in the 5th round, as well as WR Bobby Engram in free agency and TE Ben Watson, also via free agency.

Mitchell is a bigger and potential playmaker by all accounts; It is very possible he could end up being one of the best “steals” of the 2010 draft. Some experts had him going as high as the 2nd or 3rd round if not for a change in QB’s from his junior to senior seasons at South Florida"
A couple of factual errors in that little blurb. He was a 6th rounder, not 5th. And the QB change was before his Jr year. He skipped his Sr. year to enter the NFL draft. Dawgpounddaily is a basically a fan blog. Apparently not a very accurate one. Also, "some experts" can generally be found who would have just about any player drafted higher if not for this or that circumstance (injury, QB change, program, whatever).

I don't know if Mitchell will ever pan out or not. I drafted him in the 4th round IIRC of a rookie draft so I do have him rostered for now and have been paying attention for any news tidbit on him. Fact is, he's a raw 6th rounder and everything positive you read about him relates to size and speed, not route running, hands, football instincts, those kinds of things. Guys like him are a shot in the dark, and because of the measurables teams hope they can be molded into something. The vast majority never amount to anything though if they are not already natural receivers when they get to the NFL. Keep watch on him for a year or two but don't pin too much hope on him.

 
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http://dawgpounddaily.com/2010/08/01/2010-...and-tight-ends/

"But the Browns did manage to, at least on paper, improve the receiving group by adding rookie WR Carlton Mitchell from South Florida in the 5th round, as well as WR Bobby Engram in free agency and TE Ben Watson, also via free agency.

Mitchell is a bigger and potential playmaker by all accounts; It is very possible he could end up being one of the best “steals” of the 2010 draft. Some experts had him going as high as the 2nd or 3rd round if not for a change in QB’s from his junior to senior seasons at South Florida"
A couple of factual errors in that little blurb. He was a 6th rounder, not 5th. And the QB change was before his Jr year. He skipped his Sr. year to enter the NFL draft. Dawgpounddaily is a basically a fan blog. Apparently not a very accurate one. Also, "some experts" can generally be found who would have just about any player drafted higher if not for this or that circumstance (injury, QB change, program, whatever).

I don't know if Mitchell will ever pan out or not. I drafted him in the 4th round IIRC of a rookie draft so I do have him rostered for now and have been paying attention for any news tidbit on him. Fact is, he's a raw 6th rounder and everything positive you read about him relates to size and speed, not route running, hands, football instincts, those kinds of things. Guys like him are a shot in the dark, and because of the measurables teams hope they can be molded into something. The vast majority never amount to anything though if they are not already natural receivers when they get to the NFL. Keep watch on him for a year or two but don't pin too much hope on him.
I buy into everything you said about Mitchell, good post. I am holding him in one league, and have mild interest in seeing how he pans out. He's a real physical specimen with great speed. I've always had a weak spot for WRs like this regardless of draft position.

 
Needs to learn to catch the ball away from his body consistently.
:goodposting: His concentration has always been the issue. He's made some terrible drops while wide open through the years. If they can get him focused, he's got the skills to be an upper end guy.

 
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