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WR Chris Godwin, TB (4 Viewers)

What if it was the Super Bowl and this injury was career ending.
Would we be saying the coaches were stupid for trying to win?
If you’re going to try to pull off the most incredible comeback in the history of the game, the Super Bowl is where it would be worth a try.
 
Like I said. Think any way in heck Bill B pulls Brady/Moss down 10 with 1:30 to go and the ball? Any chance of that? Zero. They try to make big time plays for the TD and onsides kick
Most of us are saying the game was over when the score was 41-18 with six minutes left. Thats when they should have pulled the starters.
Well, a couple of TD's including a defensive TD changes things quickly. 41-18 is irrelevant. They were down 10 with the ball and 1:30 to go
They were literally attempting the biggest comeback in the history of the game. Ever.
The were not going to win.
 
Like I said. Think any way in heck Bill B pulls Brady/Moss down 10 with 1:30 to go and the ball? Any chance of that? Zero. They try to make big time plays for the TD and onsides kick
Most of us are saying the game was over when the score was 41-18 with six minutes left. Thats when they should have pulled the starters.
Well, a couple of TD's including a defensive TD changes things quickly. 41-18 is irrelevant. They were down 10 with the ball and 1:30 to go
They were literally attempting the biggest comeback in the history of the game. Ever.
The were not going to win.
Could you imagine how many great comebacks we’d have missed if actual athletes operated this way?
 
Like I said. Think any way in heck Bill B pulls Brady/Moss down 10 with 1:30 to go and the ball? Any chance of that? Zero. They try to make big time plays for the TD and onsides kick
Most of us are saying the game was over when the score was 41-18 with six minutes left. Thats when they should have pulled the starters.
Well, a couple of TD's including a defensive TD changes things quickly. 41-18 is irrelevant. They were down 10 with the ball and 1:30 to go
They were literally attempting the biggest comeback in the history of the game. Ever.
The were not going to win.

I'm having trouble finding the biggest comeback with 2 minutes to go, but it seems like 10 point comebacks have happened before. Teams are always trying to get a quick score (either TD or FG) then onside and try again.

The biggest comeback in NFL history is Minnesota coming back from down 33-0 in the 3rd quarter.

Either way, the injury sucks.
 
Like I said. Think any way in heck Bill B pulls Brady/Moss down 10 with 1:30 to go and the ball? Any chance of that? Zero. They try to make big time plays for the TD and onsides kick
Most of us are saying the game was over when the score was 41-18 with six minutes left. Thats when they should have pulled the starters.
Well, a couple of TD's including a defensive TD changes things quickly. 41-18 is irrelevant. They were down 10 with the ball and 1:30 to go
They were literally attempting the biggest comeback in the history of the game. Ever.
The were not going to win.

I'm having trouble finding the biggest comeback with 2 minutes to go, but it seems like 10 point comebacks have happened before. Teams are always trying to get a quick score (either TD or FG) then onside and try again.

The biggest comeback in NFL history is Minnesota coming back from down 33-0 in the 3rd quarter.

Either way, the injury sucks.
I’m talking about 6 minutes to go and down 41-18.
 
Like I said. Think any way in heck Bill B pulls Brady/Moss down 10 with 1:30 to go and the ball? Any chance of that? Zero. They try to make big time plays for the TD and onsides kick
Most of us are saying the game was over when the score was 41-18 with six minutes left. Thats when they should have pulled the starters.
Well, a couple of TD's including a defensive TD changes things quickly. 41-18 is irrelevant. They were down 10 with the ball and 1:30 to go
They were literally attempting the biggest comeback in the history of the game. Ever.
The were not going to win.
Could you imagine how many great comebacks we’d have missed if actual athletes operated this way?
Discretion is the better part of valor.
 
I think the team wanted to try for the miracle comeback. they were not letting up and good on em for being that way. Its just crappy that the result was an injury, but that injury could happen at any point in the game but its more likely to happe

Hard, hard disagree. I think this is a horrible decision. Like it will cost the Bucs the season and hopefully Bowles his job. It's that bad.

An aside, Evans should never have been playing. He wants to gut it out, fine, but when a coach sees him limping that badly... We all know how hamstrings are and I was watching that FIRST PLAY and I knew he was going to tear his hamstring.

Then, you have the game being totally over. There's no miracle comeback at that stage. You're beyond miracle, you're at the point where it would have been the greatest comeback in NFL history by a wide, wide mile.

If it's the playoffs, you go for it. But with 5+ minutes starters should've been out of there. Zero question, it's not even worth debating. Because you're upside is (1) you have the most improbable comeback in NFL history or (2) you seriously injure someone like Godwin or Mayfield. And with a massive division game next week?

Hell, the Ravens had long pulled their starters. Tells you everything right there.

The Bucs season is likely now over. All because of two idiotic decisions made in this game. I'd fire Bowles over this at season's end.
Best post in this thread. Feels like it came right out of my brain.
Yeah - and so full of downright falsehoods. "Ravens had long pulled their starters". Uhhh, no. They had their starters in and scored with 6 minutes to go. That was Henry. TB then had the ball for 4 1/2 minutes scoring 2 TD's after the onside kick. Ravens didn't have the ball. The Ravens "pulled their starters" for exactly 3 plays. And not really at that as Justice Hill ran 3 straight times, and he's one of their key RB's. 3 straight timeouts and that drive took all of 24 seconds. Then TB got the ball back down 10 with 1:30 to go. They were not out of it. We've seen comebacks like this a bunch of times. This is all armchair quarterbacking at it's finest. The hyperbole is off the charts. ""you're at the point where it would have been the greatest comeback in NFL history by a wide, wide mile". What a bunch of BS. You guys want Bowles fired for other stuff - go for it. I'll even buy that someone should have pulled Evans due to his limping. But not Godwin. They still had a chance and it was a freak and unfortunate injury. But the spinning in this thread by Bucs fans is just ludicrous.
 
Like I said. Think any way in heck Bill B pulls Brady/Moss down 10 with 1:30 to go and the ball? Any chance of that? Zero. They try to make big time plays for the TD and onsides kick
Most of us are saying the game was over when the score was 41-18 with six minutes left. Thats when they should have pulled the starters.
Well, a couple of TD's including a defensive TD changes things quickly. 41-18 is irrelevant. They were down 10 with the ball and 1:30 to go
They were literally attempting the biggest comeback in the history of the game. Ever.
The were not going to win.
Again - not even close. Maybe the Vikings should have quit too? I mean who comes back from a 33-0 deficit in the 3rd quarter? Glad they didn't listen to you guys. Please mix in a few facts

Quarterback Kirk Cousins led the Minnesota Vikings on a record-breaking comeback from a 33–0 deficit in 2022. The record for the largest NFL comeback is held by the Minnesota Vikings, who overcame a third-quarter deficit of 33–0 to defeat the Indianapolis Colts 39–36 in overtime during the 2022 NFL season.

Here's a whole bunch of greater comebacks for you hyperbole, no facts guys
https://www.nfl.com/photos/greatest-comebacks-in-nfl-history-0ap3000000646081
 
Like I said. Think any way in heck Bill B pulls Brady/Moss down 10 with 1:30 to go and the ball? Any chance of that? Zero. They try to make big time plays for the TD and onsides kick
Most of us are saying the game was over when the score was 41-18 with six minutes left. Thats when they should have pulled the starters.
Well, a couple of TD's including a defensive TD changes things quickly. 41-18 is irrelevant. They were down 10 with the ball and 1:30 to go
They were literally attempting the biggest comeback in the history of the game. Ever.
The were not going to win.
Again - not even close. Maybe the Vikings should have quit too? I mean who comes back from a 33-0 deficit in the 3rd quarter? Glad they didn't listen to you guys. Please mix in a few facts

Quarterback Kirk Cousins led the Minnesota Vikings on a record-breaking comeback from a 33–0 deficit in 2022. The record for the largest NFL comeback is held by the Minnesota Vikings, who overcame a third-quarter deficit of 33–0 to defeat the Indianapolis Colts 39–36 in overtime during the 2022 NFL season.

Here's a whole bunch of greater comebacks for you hyperbole, no facts guys
https://www.nfl.com/photos/greatest-comebacks-in-nfl-history-0ap3000000646081
3rd quarter deficits aren’t the fourth quarter with 6 minutes left.
Please show me one where a team came back down by more than 23 with 6 minutes left.
I haven’t been able to find one.
 
I think the team wanted to try for the miracle comeback. they were not letting up and good on em for being that way. Its just crappy that the result was an injury, but that injury could happen at any point in the game but its more likely to happe

Hard, hard disagree. I think this is a horrible decision. Like it will cost the Bucs the season and hopefully Bowles his job. It's that bad.

An aside, Evans should never have been playing. He wants to gut it out, fine, but when a coach sees him limping that badly... We all know how hamstrings are and I was watching that FIRST PLAY and I knew he was going to tear his hamstring.

Then, you have the game being totally over. There's no miracle comeback at that stage. You're beyond miracle, you're at the point where it would have been the greatest comeback in NFL history by a wide, wide mile.

If it's the playoffs, you go for it. But with 5+ minutes starters should've been out of there. Zero question, it's not even worth debating. Because you're upside is (1) you have the most improbable comeback in NFL history or (2) you seriously injure someone like Godwin or Mayfield. And with a massive division game next week?

Hell, the Ravens had long pulled their starters. Tells you everything right there.

The Bucs season is likely now over. All because of two idiotic decisions made in this game. I'd fire Bowles over this at season's end.
Best post in this thread. Feels like it came right out of my brain.
Yeah - and so full of downright falsehoods. "Ravens had long pulled their starters". Uhhh, no. They had their starters in and scored with 6 minutes to go. That was Henry. TB then had the ball for 4 1/2 minutes scoring 2 TD's after the onside kick. Ravens didn't have the ball. The Ravens "pulled their starters" for exactly 3 plays. And not really at that as Justice Hill ran 3 straight times, and he's one of their key RB's. 3 straight timeouts and that drive took all of 24 seconds. Then TB got the ball back down 10 with 1:30 to go. They were not out of it. We've seen comebacks like this a bunch of times. This is all armchair quarterbacking at it's finest. The hyperbole is off the charts. ""you're at the point where it would have been the greatest comeback in NFL history by a wide, wide mile". What a bunch of BS. You guys want Bowles fired for other stuff - go for it. I'll even buy that someone should have pulled Evans due to his limping. But not Godwin. They still had a chance and it was a freak and unfortunate injury. But the spinning in this thread by Bucs fans is just ludicrous.
FYI, I’m neither a Bucs fan nor a Godwin owner. I just think the game was over at the 6 minute mark.

But I’m kind of done with it now. If you can show me where a team came back being down by 24 points with six minutes left I’ll buy you a beer.
 
That’s not the point. The point is that they should have quit earlier. They were never going to win. They got EXTREMELY lucky and STILL lost by 10.
This isn't how people that make it to the top of a profession, ANY PROFESSION, think. It's not even in their DNA, and guys that quit earlier never even get head coaching jobs at the highest levels.
I guess the biggest factor for why I didn't agree with Tampa continuing to be aggressive is because the Ravens defenders were flying around out there. Big hits and looking to make a statement.
Well duh, it's the NFL. NFL players play NFL football.
So why do we EVER see people pull their starters? Because it’s smart. Smart people advance in their careers. Not the bull-headed never ever ever quit guys.
Hang that over a locker room door.
 
Has there been any links as to the extent of the injury? Any broken bones? Any torn ligaments? And screws/rods need placed?

If it's just a dislocated ankle and perhaps some torn ligaments, even a broken bone, he should be good to go next year no problem.
If theres anything complications with surgery or hardware needs placed, then there's less of a chance he's as good as new

This is as much as I've been able to find (Rapoport):

https://x.com/RapSheet/status/1849072037085528551

The mention of a slight chance of returning if the Bucs go deep in the playoffs has to be good news, even though I think there's probably next to zero chance of that coming to fruition. I'm not sure how literally we can take "full recovery". If it's truly 100%, at 29, then he should be able to pick up where he left off pending what team and role he lands on. If the ankle is a 97% recovery of what it was for age 29, 98% for age 30, then there's a good chance we've seen the best of him, even though he can still be a useful asset.

Someone threw out Kupp. Him not coming back at 100% vs normal dropoff for a WR 30+ is news to me, but maybe there is something to the ankle coming back at just a little less than 100%, in addition to being that much older. Another one that comes to mind off the top of my head is Boutee's ankle injury in college. There were complications on that requiring a 2nd surgery. Not sure how that compares, but he's just now showing signs of getting back to full speed. Any other major ankle injuries to WRs to compare?

I do think there's a dynasty opportunity here if the team that had him is competing, doesn't have an abundance of wealth to backfill, and you have something that you can offer that will help fill the void (that you value less than Godwin for next season). Obviously, you're gambling somewhat on where he's playing football next year and any injury complications, but sometimes there's big opportunity in the fog of war.
 
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I think the team wanted to try for the miracle comeback. they were not letting up and good on em for being that way. Its just crappy that the result was an injury, but that injury could happen at any point in the game but its more likely to happe

Hard, hard disagree. I think this is a horrible decision. Like it will cost the Bucs the season and hopefully Bowles his job. It's that bad.

An aside, Evans should never have been playing. He wants to gut it out, fine, but when a coach sees him limping that badly... We all know how hamstrings are and I was watching that FIRST PLAY and I knew he was going to tear his hamstring.

Then, you have the game being totally over. There's no miracle comeback at that stage. You're beyond miracle, you're at the point where it would have been the greatest comeback in NFL history by a wide, wide mile.

If it's the playoffs, you go for it. But with 5+ minutes starters should've been out of there. Zero question, it's not even worth debating. Because you're upside is (1) you have the most improbable comeback in NFL history or (2) you seriously injure someone like Godwin or Mayfield. And with a massive division game next week?

Hell, the Ravens had long pulled their starters. Tells you everything right there.

The Bucs season is likely now over. All because of two idiotic decisions made in this game. I'd fire Bowles over this at season's end.
Best post in this thread. Feels like it came right out of my brain.
Yeah - and so full of downright falsehoods. "Ravens had long pulled their starters". Uhhh, no. They had their starters in and scored with 6 minutes to go. That was Henry. TB then had the ball for 4 1/2 minutes scoring 2 TD's after the onside kick. Ravens didn't have the ball. The Ravens "pulled their starters" for exactly 3 plays. And not really at that as Justice Hill ran 3 straight times, and he's one of their key RB's. 3 straight timeouts and that drive took all of 24 seconds. Then TB got the ball back down 10 with 1:30 to go. They were not out of it. We've seen comebacks like this a bunch of times. This is all armchair quarterbacking at it's finest. The hyperbole is off the charts. ""you're at the point where it would have been the greatest comeback in NFL history by a wide, wide mile". What a bunch of BS. You guys want Bowles fired for other stuff - go for it. I'll even buy that someone should have pulled Evans due to his limping. But not Godwin. They still had a chance and it was a freak and unfortunate injury. But the spinning in this thread by Bucs fans is just ludicrous.
FYI, I’m neither a Bucs fan nor a Godwin owner. I just think the game was over at the 6 minute mark.

But I’m kind of done with it now. If you can show me where a team came back being down by 24 points with six minutes left I’ll buy you a beer.
Close enough?
https://www.playny.com/sports-betting/nfl/4th-quarter-comebacks/

Always wanted to have a beer with you, Kutta. I'll buy
 
I think the team wanted to try for the miracle comeback. they were not letting up and good on em for being that way. Its just crappy that the result was an injury, but that injury could happen at any point in the game but its more likely to happe

Hard, hard disagree. I think this is a horrible decision. Like it will cost the Bucs the season and hopefully Bowles his job. It's that bad.

An aside, Evans should never have been playing. He wants to gut it out, fine, but when a coach sees him limping that badly... We all know how hamstrings are and I was watching that FIRST PLAY and I knew he was going to tear his hamstring.

Then, you have the game being totally over. There's no miracle comeback at that stage. You're beyond miracle, you're at the point where it would have been the greatest comeback in NFL history by a wide, wide mile.

If it's the playoffs, you go for it. But with 5+ minutes starters should've been out of there. Zero question, it's not even worth debating. Because you're upside is (1) you have the most improbable comeback in NFL history or (2) you seriously injure someone like Godwin or Mayfield. And with a massive division game next week?

Hell, the Ravens had long pulled their starters. Tells you everything right there.

The Bucs season is likely now over. All because of two idiotic decisions made in this game. I'd fire Bowles over this at season's end.
Best post in this thread. Feels like it came right out of my brain.
Yeah - and so full of downright falsehoods. "Ravens had long pulled their starters". Uhhh, no. They had their starters in and scored with 6 minutes to go. That was Henry. TB then had the ball for 4 1/2 minutes scoring 2 TD's after the onside kick. Ravens didn't have the ball. The Ravens "pulled their starters" for exactly 3 plays. And not really at that as Justice Hill ran 3 straight times, and he's one of their key RB's. 3 straight timeouts and that drive took all of 24 seconds. Then TB got the ball back down 10 with 1:30 to go. They were not out of it. We've seen comebacks like this a bunch of times. This is all armchair quarterbacking at it's finest. The hyperbole is off the charts. ""you're at the point where it would have been the greatest comeback in NFL history by a wide, wide mile". What a bunch of BS. You guys want Bowles fired for other stuff - go for it. I'll even buy that someone should have pulled Evans due to his limping. But not Godwin. They still had a chance and it was a freak and unfortunate injury. But the spinning in this thread by Bucs fans is just ludicrous.
FYI, I’m neither a Bucs fan nor a Godwin owner. I just think the game was over at the 6 minute mark.

But I’m kind of done with it now. If you can show me where a team came back being down by 24 points with six minutes left I’ll buy you a beer.
Close enough?
https://www.playny.com/sports-betting/nfl/4th-quarter-comebacks/

Always wanted to have a beer with you, Kutta. I'll buy
25 points going into the fourth.
This was 23 points with half the fourth quarter gone.

But good enough for a beer 🍻
 
We might want to stop and consider that in today's NFL, manipulating point spreads could be more important than winning and that the guys on the field are following orders from the guys who sign their fat paychecks.
 
We might want to stop and consider that in today's NFL, manipulating point spreads could be more important than winning and that the guys on the field are following orders from the guys who sign their fat paychecks.
Not out of the realm of possibility. Does a coach get a call from the league if he pulls his starters down 10 with 6 minutes left and a -3.5 point spread? Isn't having Godwin in the game for garbage time huge for fantasy statistics as well?

The NBA has guys coming out before the season saying they're going to be skipping games if they're back to back. Not sure the NFL wants that.
 
Bucs fan and I was proud to see the team going for it. It was Bowles who got lambasted last year (I think it was last year but may be the year before) because he didn't use his timeouts at the end of the game because there was technically a chance for a comeback. It sucks that Godwin is out now but that could happen at any time.
 
I would bet he's back in Tampa Bay.
They’ve got a handful of moves to get them to plenty of cap space. Just like any other team just about.

Anytime I read “X team can’t afford Y player because of their cap situation” I just roll my eyes.

If Tampa wants him back (they do) and he wants to be in Tampa (I think he does) then he’ll be in Tampa.
 
Just wanted to update it’s unlikely they’d tag Godwin. He’s already been tagged twice. Another would be roughly $41M. Yeah, no.

Think they’ll still sign him but he’ll have options.
No tag but saves them significant cap space next year if they get him signed. I’m like 95% confident that they do.
 
Just wanted to update it’s unlikely they’d tag Godwin. He’s already been tagged twice. Another would be roughly $41M. Yeah, no.

Think they’ll still sign him but he’ll have options.
No tag but saves them significant cap space next year if they get him signed. I’m like 95% confident that they do.
well he was on pace to have an absolutely huge year. I love this guy when hes on the field. but sadly hes not on the field as much as you want him to be.

I'd be skittish about signing a 28 year old guy with an injury history like his to a long term deal. and I suspect a long term deal is what he is seeking.
 
Chris Godwin’s current contract was due to void, triggering $18 million in dead money against the Bucs’ 2025 cap, but the two sides agreed to move that void date to the final day of the league year (March 12). Buys them time to work out a new deal and keep some 2025 cap savings.

- Greg Auman
 
With Higgins seemingly being franchise tagged again, looks like Godwin will be the prize WR FA for what it’s worth.
 
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With Higgins seemingly being franchise tagged again, looks like Godwin will be the prize WR FA for what it’s worth.
I would guess TB retains, but he is in a good position to cash out if that is his goal.
That's where I'm at too. I think he and TB have mutual interest, but Godwin's asking price should be higher now than it was before Higgins was tagged.
Agreed. I think the calculus has changed with the Higgins tag. All depends on if Godwin is willing to take a hometown discount.
 
With Higgins seemingly being franchise tagged again, looks like Godwin will be the prize WR FA for what it’s worth.
I would guess TB retains, but he is in a good position to cash out if that is his goal.
That's where I'm at too. I think he and TB have mutual interest, but Godwin's asking price should be higher now than it was before Higgins was tagged.
Agreed. I think the calculus has changed with the Higgins tag. All depends on if Godwin is willing to take a hometown discount.
I get that but he is coming off an injury.. I looked it up. apparently its a pedal ankle dislocation? I"m not familiar with that type of injury..... how is the prognosis for recovery from that type of injury?

just mostly curious as to whether I should downgrade him due to that. I guess it may affect his asking price too. though the guy has been injured a few times so I'm thinking that would scare some teams away from a long term deal.
 
With Higgins seemingly being franchise tagged again, looks like Godwin will be the prize WR FA for what it’s worth.
I would guess TB retains, but he is in a good position to cash out if that is his goal.
That's where I'm at too. I think he and TB have mutual interest, but Godwin's asking price should be higher now than it was before Higgins was tagged.
Agreed. I think the calculus has changed with the Higgins tag. All depends on if Godwin is willing to take a hometown discount.
I get that but he is coming off an injury.. I looked it up. apparently its a pedal ankle dislocation? I"m not familiar with that type of injury..... how is the prognosis for recovery from that type of injury?

just mostly curious as to whether I should downgrade him due to that. I guess it may affect his asking price too. though the guy has been injured a few times so I'm thinking that would scare some teams away from a long term deal.
Not sure if you saw, but the Bucs re-signed him. Supposedly turned down a lot more money from the Pats.
 
With Higgins seemingly being franchise tagged again, looks like Godwin will be the prize WR FA for what it’s worth.
I would guess TB retains, but he is in a good position to cash out if that is his goal.
That's where I'm at too. I think he and TB have mutual interest, but Godwin's asking price should be higher now than it was before Higgins was tagged.
Agreed. I think the calculus has changed with the Higgins tag. All depends on if Godwin is willing to take a hometown discount.
I get that but he is coming off an injury.. I looked it up. apparently its a pedal ankle dislocation? I"m not familiar with that type of injury..... how is the prognosis for recovery from that type of injury?

just mostly curious as to whether I should downgrade him due to that. I guess it may affect his asking price too. though the guy has been injured a few times so I'm thinking that would scare some teams away from a long term deal.
Not sure if you saw, but the Bucs re-signed him. Supposedly turned down a lot more money from the Pats.
no I have been sick the last while so not really paying as much attention to the news. I also live in canada so the trade deadline in the NHL was late last week so I've mostly been focused on that. but I'm glad to see him where he is. likely the best outcome for all concerned honestly. when you find a situation where you are thriving as a player why would you leave that situation?
 
With Higgins seemingly being franchise tagged again, looks like Godwin will be the prize WR FA for what it’s worth.
I would guess TB retains, but he is in a good position to cash out if that is his goal.
That's where I'm at too. I think he and TB have mutual interest, but Godwin's asking price should be higher now than it was before Higgins was tagged.
Agreed. I think the calculus has changed with the Higgins tag. All depends on if Godwin is willing to take a hometown discount.
I get that but he is coming off an injury.. I looked it up. apparently its a pedal ankle dislocation? I"m not familiar with that type of injury..... how is the prognosis for recovery from that type of injury?

just mostly curious as to whether I should downgrade him due to that. I guess it may affect his asking price too. though the guy has been injured a few times so I'm thinking that would scare some teams away from a long term deal.
Not sure if you saw, but the Bucs re-signed him. Supposedly turned down a lot more money from the Pats.
no I have been sick the last while so not really paying as much attention to the news. I also live in canada so the trade deadline in the NHL was late last week so I've mostly been focused on that. but I'm glad to see him where he is. likely the best outcome for all concerned honestly. when you find a situation where you are thriving as a player why would you leave that situation?
A lot of players would jump for the highest contract, and can't blame them. But obviously he felt that he's getting still getting paid an inordinate amount of money and appreciates his team sticking by him and rewarding him after multiple injuries - good on him.
 
With Higgins seemingly being franchise tagged again, looks like Godwin will be the prize WR FA for what it’s worth.
I would guess TB retains, but he is in a good position to cash out if that is his goal.
That's where I'm at too. I think he and TB have mutual interest, but Godwin's asking price should be higher now than it was before Higgins was tagged.
Agreed. I think the calculus has changed with the Higgins tag. All depends on if Godwin is willing to take a hometown discount.
I get that but he is coming off an injury.. I looked it up. apparently its a pedal ankle dislocation? I"m not familiar with that type of injury..... how is the prognosis for recovery from that type of injury?

just mostly curious as to whether I should downgrade him due to that. I guess it may affect his asking price too. though the guy has been injured a few times so I'm thinking that would scare some teams away from a long term deal.
Not sure if you saw, but the Bucs re-signed him. Supposedly turned down a lot more money from the Pats.
no I have been sick the last while so not really paying as much attention to the news. I also live in canada so the trade deadline in the NHL was late last week so I've mostly been focused on that. but I'm glad to see him where he is. likely the best outcome for all concerned honestly. when you find a situation where you are thriving as a player why would you leave that situation?
A lot of players would jump for the highest contract, and can't blame them. But obviously he felt that he's getting still getting paid an inordinate amount of money and appreciates his team sticking by him and rewarding him after multiple injuries - good on him.
well, there is something to be said for players who actually WANT to be on the team.
 
With Higgins seemingly being franchise tagged again, looks like Godwin will be the prize WR FA for what it’s worth.
I would guess TB retains, but he is in a good position to cash out if that is his goal.
That's where I'm at too. I think he and TB have mutual interest, but Godwin's asking price should be higher now than it was before Higgins was tagged.
Agreed. I think the calculus has changed with the Higgins tag. All depends on if Godwin is willing to take a hometown discount.
I get that but he is coming off an injury.. I looked it up. apparently its a pedal ankle dislocation? I"m not familiar with that type of injury..... how is the prognosis for recovery from that type of injury?

just mostly curious as to whether I should downgrade him due to that. I guess it may affect his asking price too. though the guy has been injured a few times so I'm thinking that would scare some teams away from a long term deal.
Not sure if you saw, but the Bucs re-signed him. Supposedly turned down a lot more money from the Pats.
no I have been sick the last while so not really paying as much attention to the news. I also live in canada so the trade deadline in the NHL was late last week so I've mostly been focused on that. but I'm glad to see him where he is. likely the best outcome for all concerned honestly. when you find a situation where you are thriving as a player why would you leave that situation?
A lot of players would jump for the highest contract, and can't blame them. But obviously he felt that he's getting still getting paid an inordinate amount of money and appreciates his team sticking by him and rewarding him after multiple injuries - good on him.
The Bucs continue to be able to do this. Mike took significantly "less" than what was reported last year too. Says a lot about the culture they've built.

Is Evans/Godwin/McMillan the best WR trio in the NFL?
 
With Higgins seemingly being franchise tagged again, looks like Godwin will be the prize WR FA for what it’s worth.
I would guess TB retains, but he is in a good position to cash out if that is his goal.
That's where I'm at too. I think he and TB have mutual interest, but Godwin's asking price should be higher now than it was before Higgins was tagged.
Agreed. I think the calculus has changed with the Higgins tag. All depends on if Godwin is willing to take a hometown discount.
I get that but he is coming off an injury.. I looked it up. apparently its a pedal ankle dislocation? I"m not familiar with that type of injury..... how is the prognosis for recovery from that type of injury?

just mostly curious as to whether I should downgrade him due to that. I guess it may affect his asking price too. though the guy has been injured a few times so I'm thinking that would scare some teams away from a long term deal.
Not sure if you saw, but the Bucs re-signed him. Supposedly turned down a lot more money from the Pats.
no I have been sick the last while so not really paying as much attention to the news. I also live in canada so the trade deadline in the NHL was late last week so I've mostly been focused on that. but I'm glad to see him where he is. likely the best outcome for all concerned honestly. when you find a situation where you are thriving as a player why would you leave that situation?
A lot of players would jump for the highest contract, and can't blame them. But obviously he felt that he's getting still getting paid an inordinate amount of money and appreciates his team sticking by him and rewarding him after multiple injuries - good on him.
The Bucs continue to be able to do this. Mike took significantly "less" than what was reported last year too. Says a lot about the culture they've built.

Is Evans/Godwin/McMillan the best WR trio in the NFL?
No income tax in FL helps
 
With Higgins seemingly being franchise tagged again, looks like Godwin will be the prize WR FA for what it’s worth.
I would guess TB retains, but he is in a good position to cash out if that is his goal.
That's where I'm at too. I think he and TB have mutual interest, but Godwin's asking price should be higher now than it was before Higgins was tagged.
Agreed. I think the calculus has changed with the Higgins tag. All depends on if Godwin is willing to take a hometown discount.
I get that but he is coming off an injury.. I looked it up. apparently its a pedal ankle dislocation? I"m not familiar with that type of injury..... how is the prognosis for recovery from that type of injury?

just mostly curious as to whether I should downgrade him due to that. I guess it may affect his asking price too. though the guy has been injured a few times so I'm thinking that would scare some teams away from a long term deal.
Not sure if you saw, but the Bucs re-signed him. Supposedly turned down a lot more money from the Pats.
no I have been sick the last while so not really paying as much attention to the news. I also live in canada so the trade deadline in the NHL was late last week so I've mostly been focused on that. but I'm glad to see him where he is. likely the best outcome for all concerned honestly. when you find a situation where you are thriving as a player why would you leave that situation?
A lot of players would jump for the highest contract, and can't blame them. But obviously he felt that he's getting still getting paid an inordinate amount of money and appreciates his team sticking by him and rewarding him after multiple injuries - good on him.
The Bucs continue to be able to do this. Mike took significantly "less" than what was reported last year too. Says a lot about the culture they've built.

Is Evans/Godwin/McMillan the best WR trio in the NFL?
Assuming good health they are close. defintely one of the top 3 or 4 WR rooms in the NFL
 
on that note does anyone know what the recovery prognosis is for an ankle dislocation? This is what Godwin had. clearly it ended his season so it was serious enough.

is this something we should be concerned with?
 

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