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My heart now beats for him.
I traded him for a first rounder early last year after they drafted AJ. Traded back for him in a deal acquiring DK. Then traded him again for a 2nd rounder in this years draft (16th overall). I felt the same way. There was no way I was going to be able to predict any of his two start-able weeks during the year. I think he has talent and will someday throw together a 1000 yard season, but who cares. He will most likely be playing for a different team after this year and I just didn't have the patience to wait any longer.Now if only I could find someone to buy him for anything. I just don't want to carry him on my roster anymore. There is probably zero chance I will ever have him in my lineup unless he actually shows something. I don't want to wait that long. There is a very strong chance I cut him in preseason. If that is going to be a thing this year.
Man I’d bet on a change of scenery making Corey Davis relevant before I’d bet on a 5th or 6th rounder being anything (except you Tyler Johnson ).Had 5 FFPC rookie drafts this weekend and he was available in 1 of them. Was taken at 5.03.
I took Antonio Brown at 3.02 and Tarik Cohen at 3.04. Rather gamble on AB getting a job and Cohen may get into my flex a couple times during the year. I'd have taken Davis over almost all the names in the rest of the 3rd and 4th though. It's FFPC though so its hard to roster him for a year hoping for a change of scenery. He'd have to be at least semi useful to survive the season most likely.Man I’d bet on a change of scenery making Corey Davis relevant before I’d bet on a 5th or 6th rounder being anything (except you Tyler Johnson ).
Reggie Wayne.Harrison wasn't great his first 3 years but way better than Davis
Harrison had 21 TD's his first 3 years. Davis has 6.
I didn't really remember Harrison being so bad in yards but probably those TD's made people forget.
Parker is a pretty good comparision. I held that dude for 4 years finally gave up on him right before last year got a future 2nd thought that was great.........at the time.
Same here, that's the thing. I have about 5 WRs I wouldn't even consider benching for him until he shows it. If I lose out on that opportunity, so be it. I can't imagine it being that big of a reversal that I'd actually fret about it. That said, the chances are he is on my week 1 roster, but to carry all season and into the cut to 16? We'll see. At least FA happens before our cuts.I took Antonio Brown at 3.02 and Tarik Cohen at 3.04. Rather gamble on AB getting a job and Cohen may get into my flex a couple times during the year. I'd have taken Davis over almost all the names in the rest of the 3rd and 4th though. It's FFPC though so its hard to roster him for a year hoping for a change of scenery. He'd have to be at least semi useful to survive the season most likely.
Hah good luck with your initial goal of understanding Corey Davis. He checks all the boxes you say he checks- size, speed, strength, he’s a load to bring down. He’s been knocked on here before by a big Titans fan for getting too involved with hand fighting DBs but he was given the 6th biggest cushion last year so I’m not sure struggling against press coverage is truly a concern.I am trying to fully understand what is up with Corey Davis. He has very good size, speed, quickness, and even work ethic. So far it is that he isn't good against press coverage and he has shown a general inability to put it all together in games despite showing it in practice.
I cam across this article touting AJB https://www.musiccitymiracles.com/2019/12/19/21028713/film-review-a-j-browns-monster-day-against-the-texans. I was looking at Corey Davis in the videos.
1. Nothing to see here. [Own goal line. No Corey Davis. Bomb to AJB.]
2. Man coverage. Davis and AJB on opposite sides. Davis breaks sharply and is wide open across the middle, enough for a first down. FS stays split between Davis and AJB. The ball goes to a better covered AJB a bit further down the field. AJB was open, but the ball was a bit late, allowing the DB to recover.
3. Nothing to see here. [Clear out for an underneath throw to AJB.]
4. Man coverage. Davis split wide and AJB next to him in the slot. Davis makes an excellent cut getting instant separation from the #1 CB. AJB isn't really open, but he turns it into a productive play with his RAC ability.
5. Unclear, but it appears Davis is pressed at the line, gets extra coverage by a second defender who then slides off to pick up the RB out of the backfield. As soon as that happens, another defender slides over effectively maintaining double coverage on Davis. When the play is extended, the extra defender plays the side of the field around the goal-line without giving extra attention to Davis. On the other side of the field, the defense trusted one CB without help to cover AJB the entire time.
In those few videos, Davis was either getting extra attention or was clearly open. Was it like that much of the season? I am not looking to take anything away from AJB. It appears like the other team treated Davis as the #1 while the Titans treated AJB as the #1, since Davis didn't get the looks when he was open. That is a double whammy for statistical output for Davis. If Davis is treated as the #2 by opposing defenses, could he be dominant? Teams should treat AJB as the #1 from the start of next season.
AJB can get it done simply by physicality and RAC. Davis is not that type of player, although he was the #11 WR for YAC over expected YAC, while AJB was obviously #1. If Tannehill is not up to the task, we may have to wait for 2021 for Davis.
Titans reporter Jim Wyatt reports the team's coaches still "really like" Corey Davis.
In the same breath, Wyatt confirmed the obvious that Davis will be playing for his Titans future after the team declined his fifth-year team option for 2021. Looking for positives to highlight, Wyatt said the coaching staff loves Davis' willingness to block. That is important for a run-first offense, but you need so much more from a former No. 5 overall pick at wideout. Davis must be hoping for a DeVante Parker-type trajectory, but even Parker initially had his team option exercised. It was later declined in favor of a new two-year deal before Parker's breakout 2019. 25-year-old Davis has a respectable 1,492 yards over the past two seasons.
SOURCE: tennesseetitans.com
Jun 7, 2020, 10:33 AM ET
He just went an entire FFPC startup without being drafted. Superflex but still.It doesn't appear this guy was as good as most thought he was coming out of college. It happens.
I don't think so with him. I'd buy this with others but since he's been there, there have been so many issues with the QB staring and waiting for him to get open or get to his spot and that really leads me to put it on Davis.I am stashing him for when he signs with HOU next year. QB has been a big part of his problem and system has been another. He'll have neither problem there.
Interesting observations about Davis working his routes. If he is trying to leverage the defensive back he needs to know where the DB is, so maybe that is part of it? But he doesn't get the same separation he maybe could if he were paying less attention to the DB?I say it every year, but this guy really works to improve. He literally does whatever you want a young WR to do in the offseason. Over the years, he's worked out with this guy and that guy and ...he checks every single box, every offseason. It's always a good boy type story when he returns.
I do think he could be special, no doubt with that bod and talent, but he's got a mental block that's high school like and idk why he can't get over it. How long have we been waiting for him to? He stayed late after TC practices to work with AJ and teach him how to beat NFL pressing DBs and a shove that comes at the five yard mark with some regularity because ya can't make contact after it. There are literally videos of him doing it right and showing exactly how to do it. (Yes some say AJ never needed to learn that, doesn't matter here tho)
Later in a route, he's trying so hard to get a corner on his hip and reaching back and...it's weird.
I'll scream at the TV to forget the CB is there and see what happens, just ignore him!
He's thinking too much, trying to be too perfect, and it looks awful. It only happens in games and is 100 percent mental. He never even did this in HS or college. Like I said, it's an amateurish oops but geesh get over it already. It doesn't matter which NFL type visits Titans camp, they always rave about him. No one doubts he CAN be this or that, it's if he WILL ever be that guy.
Detroit had some OMG talented WRs and drafted a first rounder every year (or almost every year) for a while there. He reminds me of them.
For FF, let's be honest we've been burned by drafting him at "this spot" so at some point in the draft, yep his potential does have value at "that spot" but just figure out what those spots are.
He is still the technical #1 and AJ will not be moved into that role. Davis is a very good blocker now and they won't move him from the strong side. There was no issue getting AJ the ball primarily on the left side, so they're not changing roles. There is no truth to anyone saying this and I've heard both Smith and Vrabel asked this on live chats so that's as rock solid intel as it gets.
Titans OC Smith does like to move everyone around and they will use Humphries more. Davis has taken more snaps from the slot than you probably guess. Still though, it's gonna be same role same spot unless something changes.
Fwiw, fpc $35 BB, just took him rd23 Pick 11He just went an entire FFPC startup without being drafted. Superflex but still.
Unless Henry breaks down, which seems to be a line that people are pushing rather fervently at the moment.Its just not happening for him in this offense as far as what we want or expect out of a top 5 pick at the WR position.
I do think that what Davis has done is good enough to be valuable in FF if for some reason the opportunity was there.Unless Henry breaks down, which seems to be a line that people are pushing rather fervently at the moment.
The opportunity has been there.I do think that what Davis has done is good enough to be valuable in FF if for some reason the opportunity was there.
Often hurt and mired in a low volume passing offense with usually dreadful Qb play isn’t the opportunity people have in mind.The opportunity has been there.
69 targets in 15 game last year is not a lot of opportunity. 4.6 per game.The opportunity has been there.
Perhaps if he had shown more he would have received more targets last year. Feed the best WR and that is Brown.Often hurt and mired in a low volume passing offense with usually dreadful Qb play isn’t the opportunity people have in mind.
Is this supposed to counter anything I said?JohnnyU said:Perhaps if he had shown more he would have received more targets last year. Feed the best WR and that is Brown.
It's supposed to mean that if he had done more with the opportunities he had, he would be targeted more. Brown did more with that he had.Is this supposed to counter anything I said?
Brown did amazing and still only saw 84 targets. I think AJB looks like a stud and will force an increased role. None of this changes anything I said about the opportunity for Davis- low volume, terrible qb play, injured a lot. Perhaps you think that I’m arguing Corey Davis is better than AJB? If so that’s not the case. Simply saying I hope Corey Davis is in a better offense than he’s been in to date in regards to volume and Qb play, and that he can stay a little healthier.It's supposed to mean that if he had done more with the opportunities he had, he would be targeted more. Brown did more with that he had.
I suppose there is no proof one way or the other that if Davis was in a different offense he would do any better. I'm sure there are lots of factors at play. Some that Davis can't control and some he can.Brown did amazing and still only saw 84 targets. I think AJB looks like a stud and will force an increased role. None of this changes anything I said about the opportunity for Davis- low volume, terrible qb play, injured a lot. Perhaps you think that I’m arguing Corey Davis is better than AJB? If so that’s not the case. Simply saying I hope Corey Davis is in a better offense than he’s been in to date in regards to volume and Qb play, and that he can stay a little healthier.
Agreed at this point who knows. Lots of factors at play.I suppose there is no proof one way or the other that if Davis was in a different offense he would do any better. I'm sure there are lots of factors at play. Some that Davis can't control and some he can.
I can’t tell how to read that yards of separation per target metric. Without knowing the number when he’s not targeted, idk if it means he’s getting a ton of separation generally or more that they don’t even look at him unless he’s wide open.
Drafted him in the 4th after he was cut, I’m fine with that but that’s about the max I’d pay.bicycle_seat_sniffer said:well I cant give him away in dyno......oh well......please sign somewhere good next year....sigh......Look Dante Pettis is on the wire too!
Wow. Yeah. That's like trading a mid to late second round pick for him.You won that, I am a little surprised u could get that much.
You absolutely robbed that guy. Just walked straight up to him in broad daylight and took the cash and cards from his wallet and then for good measure made him drive you around so you could do some errands. If it's a dynasty league then you invited yourself back to his house where he grilled you up a steak while you slept with his wife.I just moved him for AJ Dillon. I am RB needy and the other owner was WR needy.
Ribeye?You absolutely robbed that guy. Just walked straight up to him in broad daylight and took the cash and cards from his wallet and then for good measure made him drive you around so you could do some errands. If it's a dynasty league then you invited yourself back to his house where he grilled you up a steak while you slept with his wife.