Wise Old Owl
Footballguy
when do you draft? would you mind doing it earlier next year and sharing it with us? So we can avoid the injuries?
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WR DeVante Parker, Retired (1 Viewer)
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Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
flapgreen
Footballguy
Weebs210
Footballguy
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Understatement. Between his being dinged and Cutler being a JAG, how does this change people’s perceptions of Parker going forward?
Not sure he’s even a dependable flex. Yes, might be overreacting to a stretch of bad games...but again, maybe not.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
Hoping to send to the bench for a few weeks. Rough season.Stompin' Tom Connors said:
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Do you have any plans to acquire Fuller or Funchess?flapgreen said:
perhaps, but we need to know if he will be available for next 2-3 weeks of garbage time production...
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-sp-dolphins-devante-parker-20171009-story.html
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Todem
Footballguy
This has been the story of Parkers career so far. He can't stay healthy. Not his fault I guess....injuries are injuries. But this is the reality of Devante Parker.
Yet they are nickel and diming with Jarvis Landry and signing him to an extension, when he is one their toughest and most reliable player. Typical Dolphins fodder.
Yet they are nickel and diming with Jarvis Landry and signing him to an extension, when he is one their toughest and most reliable player. Typical Dolphins fodder.
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
First 3 weeks his floor was 8 targets & 12.50 in full PPR. That’s not horrible for the guy I drafted as my WR3. Yesterday was just one of those things, guy got hurt early. I had 9 other starters in double digits so NBD.
Next couple weeks I’ll be choosing between Fuller & Funchess. Got Corey Davis in an IR slot & Kupp or Nelson on the WW. Gonna have to see something to move him off the bench.
flysack
Footballguy
You want a kick in the butt?
I sat Crabtree for Parker. Crabs was "questionable" and trending toward not playing, and even if he did play at 80%, he had E.J. Manuel throwing to him. So I sit Crabs.
Parker leaves in the first quarter.
Crabs plays and puts up his standard 6 recs and a TD.
I sat Crabtree for Parker. Crabs was "questionable" and trending toward not playing, and even if he did play at 80%, he had E.J. Manuel throwing to him. So I sit Crabs.
Parker leaves in the first quarter.
Crabs plays and puts up his standard 6 recs and a TD.
I feel ya. Let's compare. I ran the last three years in dominating fashion with Luck (oops), DJ (oops), Ware (oops), Miller, AB, Evans, Olsen (oops). Started Doyle when I lost Olsen. oops. Traded DJ for Ajayi after week 1. Passed on Hunt. Sleep -losing OOPS. Wanted to go to Cobb at flex week 2 oops. Traded Luck, Moncrief, Lewis for Ryan, Parker, Foreman after week 3. Started Parker at flex yesterday for the first time. Oops.
Oh by by the way my back up qb is Big Ben. Yay.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
In these cases I tend to lean towards the eye (seen on crutches) versus whatever line of cr*p coaches put ininjury reports.
Hope he heals and this offense turns around. I need him with Cooper being such a no-show.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
The entire Miami offense has been a major disappointment so far this season.
Currently Miami is last in points scored, yards gained, plays run, yards per play, first downs, you name it.
Considering they are the worst offense in the league there is no where to go but up, but its really not looking good for any of their players for fantasy right now.
Currently Miami is last in points scored, yards gained, plays run, yards per play, first downs, you name it.
Considering they are the worst offense in the league there is no where to go but up, but its really not looking good for any of their players for fantasy right now.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
LOL, ditto. I traded DJ for Ajayi and then acquired Parker as part of a Luck trade. I guess I was due for some bad moves.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
My team just stinks up and down the roster. I am not going to bore anyone with the details. However, it is still early in the season so we all have to hang in.SCT said:
Ya my roster is strong enough despite all these injuries that I'm 2-2 and if Zach Miller (my TE3....) can score a td and Mckinnon can lay an egg, I could go 3-2 but man I ain't scoring crap week to week.
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packersfan
Footballguy
Parker was WR14 in PPR going into yesterday's game despite playing in an offense that had looked atrocious. Considering how he was probably drafted in the 30-35 range among WRs I'd say he's proven to be generally immune to the Cutler Effect. As long as the injury isn't serious he should continue to be a strong WR2 in PPR with a high ceiling should the Dolphins ever get going offensively.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Hey I got some major egg on my face as I bought into the coaches comments about up tempo and the offense improving as a whole this season from last year.DocHolliday said:
Nope.
They have had their bye already so one fewer game than most of the other teams, still not looking good if we look at their offense on a per game basis though, still the worst offense in the league so far in points scored, yards gained, plays run ect.
Its remakable that Parker is doing as well as he is under these circumstances as packersfan points out above. Parker does have 33.5% of Miami's receiving yards so far. He had 3 weeks of decent performance before this week where he only played on 3 snaps.
In Parkers first 3 games he has averaged 9 targets 6 receptions 77 yards and .33 TD
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Almost makes one wonder if there are other coaches on the offensive side of the ball who don't have all their faculties....
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Reasonable question. Not one I can answer though.
I haven't been paying attention to Miami as much this year as I did last year as far as listening to their press conferences and reading opinions of their beat writers. I got frustrated with their beat writers last year who all seemed to have some sort of negative agenda against Jay Ajayi that didn't make much sense to me and proved to be very wrong.
You still like Ajayi? He's putting up 4 ypc week in and week out but man it's tough that he''s the one I moved DJ for in dynasty win-now mode. Coulda had Hunt but didn't believe week 1 wasn't a likely aberration. Big time regrets obviously. Hope they keep force feeding ajayi.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Yes I still think Ajayi is a very good RB.
For this season Gase and the OC were talking about expanding the offense and that they wanted to run more plays, so I did projections based on that, and those projections are looking to be way too high now based on how poorly they have done.
Last year after four games they scaled back their offense and relied on Ajayi more because of that. The way things are going, it looks like they may be doing that again, which isn't so good for Parker.
Either way I think Ajayi is a staple of their offense and his role shouldn't change even if they did run more plays and passed the ball more than last year. How they have used Ajayi in the last two games however does make me question even that somewhat. They haven't gotten him the ball as much as they were doing last year. The whole offense seems to have regressed and the only thing different here is Cutler instead of Tannehill.
So perhaps thats it. Cutler sucks and should have stayed retired. If that is the case I would expect them to turn to Matt Moore eventually who did play some games for them last year after Tannehill was injured. Maybe that could lead to some improvement. Something needs to change, they are the worst offense in the league so far.
packersfan
Footballguy
Ajayi had 25 carries and 27 touches yesterday. Hard to give him a bigger workload than that on a weekly basis if the point is to keep him healthy.
Ajayi's producing at an almost identical level as he did to close out last season. He's been under 4 YPC in 3 of 4 games. He was under 4 YPC in 6 of his final 8 last season. He looks like the same underwhelming RB this season he was for most of the end of last season. Biggest issue I'm seeing with the Miami offense is Cutler is incredibly bad. I didn't expect that at all but he just sinks. I thought he looked decent for the most part in the preseason and Week 2 but it's all gone downhill since then.
Ajayi's producing at an almost identical level as he did to close out last season. He's been under 4 YPC in 3 of 4 games. He was under 4 YPC in 6 of his final 8 last season. He looks like the same underwhelming RB this season he was for most of the end of last season. Biggest issue I'm seeing with the Miami offense is Cutler is incredibly bad. I didn't expect that at all but he just sinks. I thought he looked decent for the most part in the preseason and Week 2 but it's all gone downhill since then.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
So he got the ball a lot more than he did the previous two games right?
He was on the injury report in previous weeks and that may be why they limited his opportunity. That he got as many opportunities in the most recent game vs. the Titans suggests that he is healthier now and also that they may be trying to lean on him more again as they did last season.
I would disagree with this statement and yards per carry in one game isn't very meaningful to me. The previous two games were fewer opportunities than what he was getting at the end of last season, so not almost identical at all, but see things however you want to see them, I will stick with the facts which do not support your claim.
If you think he is so underwhelming then trade him or cut him or start Charles Sims or whatever it was that you were talking about doing last season.
Tommy Collins
Footballguy
You do realize he was talking about his YPC in 3 of 4 games this year, and YPC in 6 of last 8 in 2016, right? Not just one game.Biabreakable said:
What facts, exactly, are you referring to that doesn't support his claim?
Biabreakable
Footballguy
That he is being used the same as last season. He wasn't getting the ball so infrequently last season as he did for two games there. Already discussed in previous post and really is just him trying to say he was right last year about Ajayis inconsistency.
He has been inconsistent. He has huge games and then some pretty poor games. Part of it can be tied to the offensive line play and more specifically Ajayi performing better last year when Pouncey played and not as well when Pouncey didn't, but Jay was still getting the ball more than he did in his two games previous to this one.
The fewest opportunities Jay had last season was 19 against the Ravens and then 19 against the Jets. This year he had 14 opportunities against the Jets and 13 against the Saints. So five fewer opportunities in those two games then his lowest marks last season (starting with the Pittsburgh game). My argument is that this is not identical to last season which is what he is saying.
The whole thing stems from last year around playoff time him being upset with Ajayi not scoring enough points for him every game leading into the playoffs and that Ajayi is a bum because of that and he was thinking about starting Charles SIms or some other RBs over Ajayi because of his displeasure with Ajayi's performance. I was trying to help him out saying that Ajayi was getting the ball a lot and still a better play than those other options because of that.
Ajayi had two 50 yard games week 13 and 14 last year then a 200 yard rushing game in week 16
packersfan
Footballguy
Actually, what I did last season was state the facts about Ajayi's production. And that's what I've done again. The fact his production so far this season mirrors that of late last season is not my fault if I point it out. It just happens to be the truth. And my point from last season that volume is meaningless if the production isn't there remains on point as well. It's wonderful Ajayi is getting 25+ touches but if it's translating into fewer than 10 points per game in PPR the volume is ultimately pointless and isn't helping your fantasy roster.
More importantly, this thread is about Parker and my apologies for steering the discussion away from him.
More importantly, this thread is about Parker and my apologies for steering the discussion away from him.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
This sounds like the report from yesterday in regards to Gase talking about Carroo playing more if Parker is out.
Not clear to me yet if he didn't practice today or not. Still a bit early for that I think.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
I have not heard anything yet but I am moving on to different players. So, lets talk about who people are putting in at WR or flex instead of Parker.
At my flex spot, I am going with Aaron Jones or Rishard Matthews.
Todem
Footballguy
If Powell and Forte are out.....McGuire time at the flex this week (Parker is my flex option along with Marlon Mack and Alex Collins this week with Dez and the RB horror show that is Rawls and Lacy on a bye week, I had Carson and that went up in flames, also hoping Ty Montgomery is back this week).
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Todem
Footballguy
grrrrrrrr...but you know what....he is old and looks really done to me. If Powell is out I still think McGuire can be a big factor.
Thoughts?
Parker is not sniffing my lineup this week. He is likely out this week. No practice all week. Again.....he seems to always get dinged up every year.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Looking at starting Cooper, which I'm not liking.
Could pick up Ricardo or Perine, but not thrilled about those either.
This was supposed to be a big year for Parker and the MIA offense with Cutler coming aboard -- really disappointing, but guess I should have figured out that Cutler had an equal chance as busting as had excelling in a new environment.
Could pick up Ricardo or Perine, but not thrilled about those either.
This was supposed to be a big year for Parker and the MIA offense with Cutler coming aboard -- really disappointing, but guess I should have figured out that Cutler had an equal chance as busting as had excelling in a new environment.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
I still like Perine although he hasn't done very well so far. Looks like the same player at the NFL level which is RB two type performer if he gets enough opportunity.
As far as Cultler goes, looks like wishful thinking on my part and others who hoped he might be an upgrade over Tannehill. Although I don't particularly like Tannehill, I think Miami would be better with him as the starter than Cutler now.
The Miami fans are calling for Matt Moore to start. Landry is on record telling them that is disrespectful, but they may be right. Moores main problem is throwing interceptions. He is an aggressive downfield passer. If the Dolphins do end up starting him at some point, maybe that could help the offense improve. They are not playing well right now, so I think Gase has to do something.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Is this full PPR?
From what I've watched, it's really only a matter of time before Moore comes in. Until then I'll be starting whichever DST is facing off against MIA.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
Fantasy owners favorite injury designation.... "Doubtful"... you know he isnt going to play, but because he's listed doubtful and not out you have to wait until Sunday morning before you can move him to your IR slot
left the game wk5 and couldnt return
left the stadium on crutches
DNP all week at practice.... seems like a return next week (wk 7) is a long shot
left the game wk5 and couldnt return
left the stadium on crutches
DNP all week at practice.... seems like a return next week (wk 7) is a long shot
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Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Yessir.SameSongNDance said:
I like Ricardo’s process, and size/agility. Not convinced about consistent fantasy value in CLE but the guy looks like a #1 receiver out there.
Perine has shown me nothing and while Jen gets volume this week I don’t think he explodes, and I think Rob Kelley’s injury isn’t serious so not sure if Perine makes for a solid pickup for this week and beyond as opposed to a middling to poor one week filler.
