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WR Josh Gordon, KC (6 Viewers)
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Chaka
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Soulfly3
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He ran the route incorrectly? You sure about that? Cuz Hue and every beat writer out there all seem to think he adjusted to make that nab on a misplaced pass
But his being fat will cause this confusion
The Kerminator
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Soulfly3
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Bracie Smathers
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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/08/the_josh_gordon_terrelle_pryor.html
The Josh Gordon, Terrelle Pryor, Corey Coleman Air Show set to debut in Browns vs. Bucs
TAMPA, Fla. —The Josh Gordon-Corey Coleman-Terrelle Pryor Air Show will debut Friday night against the Bucs in the third preseason game if all goes as planned.
As long as Coleman (hamstring) and Gordon (quad) are healthy enough to make their preseason debuts, the Three Amigos will serve notice to NFL defensive backs to be afraid. Very afraid.
"That's a really, really solid receiving corps,'' cornerback Joe Haden said Monday. "You know, each one of them running under 4.3, they can take you vertical. Those are really, really good deep threats. Teams don't have two players like that and we have three of them.''
... Jackson has already begun draw up new and exotic ways to hurt a defense with the Terrific Trio — and the Fab Four, including Barnidge. In addition to Pryor streaking down the field and plucking the ball away from shorter defensive backs, he can line up at quarterback and run the read option.
"There are a lot of thoughts that go through my mind,'' Jackson said. "I can't tell you all of them, but they are a talented trio. We have some other guys, too, but they are [talented]. Those guys have size, they have speed, they have length, they have the ability to make plays on the ball. That's exciting.''
The Josh Gordon, Terrelle Pryor, Corey Coleman Air Show set to debut in Browns vs. Bucs
TAMPA, Fla. —The Josh Gordon-Corey Coleman-Terrelle Pryor Air Show will debut Friday night against the Bucs in the third preseason game if all goes as planned.
As long as Coleman (hamstring) and Gordon (quad) are healthy enough to make their preseason debuts, the Three Amigos will serve notice to NFL defensive backs to be afraid. Very afraid.
"That's a really, really solid receiving corps,'' cornerback Joe Haden said Monday. "You know, each one of them running under 4.3, they can take you vertical. Those are really, really good deep threats. Teams don't have two players like that and we have three of them.''
... Jackson has already begun draw up new and exotic ways to hurt a defense with the Terrific Trio — and the Fab Four, including Barnidge. In addition to Pryor streaking down the field and plucking the ball away from shorter defensive backs, he can line up at quarterback and run the read option.
"There are a lot of thoughts that go through my mind,'' Jackson said. "I can't tell you all of them, but they are a talented trio. We have some other guys, too, but they are [talented]. Those guys have size, they have speed, they have length, they have the ability to make plays on the ball. That's exciting.''
Chaka
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Jason Campbell 317 attempts
Bandon Weedon 267 attempts
Brian Hoyer 96 attempts
Josh Gordon 87 receptions, 1,646 yards & 9 TDs.
Chaka
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Bracie Smathers
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I think Dallas was mentioned a few years ago when former president Joe Banner put Gordon on the market but Haslam, the owner, put the kibosh on that because the team had already traded away Trent Richardson and he felt the fans would revolt if JG was also traded.
Other teams that immediately come to mind that have a WR need are San Francisco and Minnesota where his former OC would be interested and their first round pick hasn't emerged. Philly is another team that has a glaring need at WR.
Ilov80s
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I guess a key part is do teams see Gordon as a 1 year rental or a guy they want to resign and build around?
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
I think they see Corey Coleman, Gary Barnidge, and the development of Terrell Pryor and think that right now, they can get a bargain,
I doubt the Browns new front office are looking to give away bargains and JG's value will increase.
Schefter said that teams were putting out feelers so that means the Browns aren't shopping Gordon, it is other teams making inquiries.
massraider
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Ilov80s
Footballguy
I agree Browns don't see JG as part of their longterm plans. I meant the teams inquiring. Also, not sure how much his value increases really. I know it will help to see him healthy on the field this week, but teams generally don't like trading after the offseason. Every day we get closer to the season and into the season, the less likely it seems a team will make a trade.
Buck Bradcanon
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Pryor is a nice story and will help the Browns, but is not a guy to rely on enough in 2 WR sets to trade away a starter.
SaintsInDome2006
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I'm afraid I am going to draft this guy until I can't draft no more.
Bracie Smathers
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Well right now, his value has to be considered very low by any team making an inquiry especially if they think the Browns are loaded at WR and are looking to dump JG so I think that if he flashes in preseason and then serves his suspension and comes back strong that his value would increase.
Maybe after the season and if Coleman and TP emerge that the teams would make more attractive offers, but right now I think they are looking for a bargain and I don't see why the Browns front office would want to serve up bargains because I think JG's value will increase.
matttyl
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massraider
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And they shouldn't. Even if you think he might crash and burn, the potential for a cheap, true #1 WR for your team is far too valuable for a mid round pick, which is probablt what is being offered.
Browns trading him now would be crazy.
Steeler
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LittlePhatty
Footballguy
Without the 4-game suspension I bet his ADP would climb to round 4.
Polish Hammer
made of glass
With all the love for Gordon (along with Coleman and, to a lesser extent, Pryor and Barnidge), how do you all feel about RGIII's prospects for the year as a result?
Chaka
Footballguy
Hue favors the running game but he was pretty darn solid with Carson Palmer and Andy Dalton. RGIII isn't either of those guys but he did flash serious talent, even in the passing game, at one point so if Hue can really coach and if RGIII can recapture some of the magic I would be pretty optimistic at this point.
He is showing up as mostly undrafted according to MFL data so I would consider him undervalued for sure. I think he has low end QB1 upside and should be considered a strong buy in 2QB, super flex and QB streaming formats.
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Stealthycat
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trade him now .... fall harvest season is upon us and the temptation might be too great
pantherclub
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pantherclub
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Soulfly3
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Stealthycat
Footballguy
how good was Gordon when he was suspended?
there is your answer
there is your answer
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Stealthycat
Footballguy
simply put, Gordon is one offense from never playing in the league again
he's shown to be incredibly stupid in decision making
if you trade him for great value right now - CLE has to do it as a business move ......
he's shown to be incredibly stupid in decision making
if you trade him for great value right now - CLE has to do it as a business move ......
He's either way overvalued or undervalued right now. There's absolutely no way for anything, including the Browns, to know what his future holds. There was a time he was a top three receiver in the entire league. But that was 3 years ago. And he wasn't all that great in those few games he played two years ago. And he's obviously dumb as a brick. So are you trading for a Julio Jones or a Justin Blackmon? There's just no way for a team to accurately assess his value right now. And that includes the Browns
PlasmaDogPlasma
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Otis
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Probably about right. I have him around #20 if he was playing all 16. Take away the four games and he's in the mid-thirties.
matttyl
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Stealthycat
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no - we knew there was a year suspension and then review ..... there was a chance at returning.
the dope gets to him again, and he's done in the NFL forever
the dope gets to him again, and he's done in the NFL forever
matttyl
Footballguy
Right, we all assumed that EXACT situation last year during his year long suspension. He apparently failed yet another drug test, which is why his reinstatement was denied in March of this year.
And it's hard to keep all of his off the field transgressions in line, but from his wiki page:
2015 season
Gordon was suspended for the entire 2015 season due to violating the league's substance abuse policy.
As of January 2015, Gordon faced another year-long suspension due to testing positive for alcohol use.
So he was suspended for the 2015 season for substance abuse, and then had ANOTHER year long suspension for the alcohol positive test? Wouldn't that be for the 2016 season? Then how is he playing (we assume) in week 5?
georg013
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Apparently, Josh Gordon is not even the best receiver on the team right now.
ESPN Cleveland @ESPNCleveland 49m49 minutes ago
Grossi: Right now I think Pryor is the best WR on the team followed by Josh Gordon and Corey Coleman.
ESPN Cleveland @ESPNCleveland 49m49 minutes ago
Grossi: Right now I think Pryor is the best WR on the team followed by Josh Gordon and Corey Coleman.
