massraider
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Been pretty wrong on this whole thing, now you're wondering what OTHER people aren't getting?
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WR Josh Gordon, KC (3 Viewers)
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Bucsfan5493
Footballguy
Corey Coleman breaking his hand should only make his value better, right? Hopefully McCown is back by week 5.
dipandglide
Footballguy
I disagree. Did you see what happened to AJG last week when Pitt double teamed him? That's what will happen to Gordon.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Actually someone else was referring to the AP suspension.
I think you clicked the wrong post to quote.
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
lmao - yeah, because my wild speculation about how he MIGHT get suspended makes me "pretty wrong about this whole thing" - oh, except for the part where I said he's been in a ton of trouble (which was correct) and that this could have been considered a violation of the league personal conduct policy (which was also correct) since it wasn't about fathering a child, but rather having a warrant issued because he failed to comply with a court order (which was also correct).
So yeah, other than being spot on correct about everything I posted about, I guess you have a point. Or not. One of the two.
Hey, he didn't get suspended - yet. As a Gordon owner I'm thrilled about that. But it was possible. And of course I look at worst case scenario with this guy, because (stick with me here) - he's Josh freakin Gordon.
But thanks for keeping it real up in here I guess. We can all rest a little easier, knowing you're on the job.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
With this dude, that's about the appropriate response to any news, and especially when the words "warrant", or "arrest" is in the headline. Sad but true.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Is that what that means? I've always wondered.
I finally figured out Help The Hippos, though I still don't understand why people use it at the end of their posts - I guess it's to raise awareness? Very touching.
Stealthycat
Footballguy
he could pay Travis Henry as a consultant ... that man knows ALL the ins and outs of paternity tests and fathering illegitimate kids
amnesiac
beer is good
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
At this point he might want to hire Nate Newton as a life-coach - that might be an improvement?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
spider321
Footballguy
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Dismattle
Footballguy
Ive seen teams quite a few years ago go from running with one Stud WR too two
The change isnt exactly double the output, from my viewpoint..
I think the Rook QB is what could be a terrible thing
A relentless focus on making the QB make plays might get ugly sumpin fierce
The point could be made that a less experienced rookie WR wont be good for hot reads n such..
On the bright side, maybe theres a backup WR that the now starting QB has been taking reps alongside
habsfan
Footballguy
sandlotshrink
Footballguy
Anyone hanging on to this guy for perceived value now that they are on to Cody Kessler and ultimately Wally Whitehurst?
Soulfly3
Footballguy
What kind of BS is this?
Once there is a warrant, YOU GET ARRESTED AND ROGER BANS YOU FOR LIFE!!!!!!!
This was already established.
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Dismattle
Footballguy
That aint no lie..
Defenses playing "prevent defense"
Garbage time yd's w/ meaningless TD's
On the downside, it does effect IDP..
They should be out there piling up superstar stats..
Bucsfan5493
Footballguy
Was Gordon not seeing double teams before in 2013 when he went ballistic? (serious question, not being sarcastic)
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Actually you weren't just pointing it out...you said "I'm not sure why people don't get there is a huge difference in how people view missing a court order deadline and child abuse" So in fact you were wondering why people don't get that it is different when nobody ever suggested they weren't different
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Soulfly3
Footballguy
Warhogs
Footballguy
This was a play on words from what hot sauce said a while back and also from several posts Hot Sauce had made earlier. I believe what hot sauce was saying was failing to comply with a court order was a crime, and a violation of personal conduct policy and he could be suspended. It had sounded to me like Hot Sauce was suggesting Gordon should be suspended for violation of personal conduct policy for committing a crime. It just came across as a heavy handed observation of a crime is a crime so I was tongue in cheek pointing out that there is a huge difference in severity of these "crimes". I'm not sure why you felt it was important to jump in when you just didn't get it? My point was missing a court order and having an arrest warrant issued just isn't very uncommon and in no way would or should be viewed as a crime punishable by Goddell.
Yeah - He has/had an arrest warrant issued. At that point, he has run afoul of the law. Doesn't matter what it's for - he's on "double secret probation" - Goodell could have suspended him for his 1,973,217th strike.
Sounds like he's not going to, but the crime wasn't fathering a child, it was failing to comply with a court order.
Not sure why people don't get that.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Oh! So you're saying people put that at the end of their posts to indicate that the key to FFB is to get really, really high?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
The part in italics is exactly what I was saying, and not one word more or less. If I'd intended to say more or less, I would have said more or less. Josh Gordon's arrest warrant could have been considered a violation. Pretty straight forward and IMO clearly stated.
Then YOU brought in child abuse. Not me, you. So you made a comparison to something I said with something I absolutely did not say, then argued against the comparison that I did not make. And you're confused as to why people are taking issue with this?
I never, not once, not even for a second drew a comparison to child abuse, nor did I attempt to draw a correlation between AP's suspension and Josh Gordon's. I do not put Josh Gordon's actions on the same level as abusing a child, so I would never make that comparison, and I'm none too pleased that you attempted to do it for me.
You just quoted me 3 times and there's still not one !&#%^# word about child abuse or Adrian Peterson.
But you can keep digging that hole for yourself if you like....let me know when you smell Chinese food. Won't be long now.
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Warhogs
Footballguy
Before this gets too far off track, let me say that I don't have an issue with Hot Sauce and don't want to turn this into any sort of battle. My view is that while an arrest warrant was issued for Gordon, it wasn't a big deal as this is common in the court system. I saw no reason why anyone would think Goddell would take any action. It's a minor issue blown out of proportion, much like this thread. Frankly, I'm not posting anything more than Josh Gordon news in here going forward as it's been sidetracked enough.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I have no issue with you either so long as you're not putting words in my mouth and giving people the impression that I think child abuse is a trivial matter.
It's all good - I think someone else actually brought up AP (haven't read every post in here) and maybe you thought it was me? Regardless, we're good.
As for why I thought he might get suspended, it's Josh Gordon.
He's been suspended a lot. And as far as I understand, he is walking on eggshells. But the eggshells are laid out on a field of glass shards, which have been placed on a bed of potato chips. What I'm saying here is that he could get suspended for just about any perceived transgression. With Roger Goodell, you just never know. That his name showed up in the news with "arrest warrant issued" could have been enough, regardless of what it was for.
I didn't think this was going out on a limb. It's Josh Gordon. And admittedly, as a Josh Gordon owner who's been burned before, I expected the worst.
Fortunately that didn't happen. Now they just need a QB.
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GregR
Footballguy
Hippos have a time-honored place on these forums after going 1.1 in the fantasy Deadly Animal Draft.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Yeesh - that's damn near unpossible.
Who knows what the rookie can do? People here have indicated noodle-arm....that's not good for Gordon's skill set. On the other hand, with Coleman gone, that could be big. Or Pryor could get those looks.
It all depends on when McCown comes back. Then it's game on. Until he gets hurt again because the OL is terrible.
Jesus, why did I draft Gordon?
zamboni
Footballguy
Strangely enough, I think this might be shaking out reasonably well for Gordon compared to what it looked like just 24 hours ago.
During the next two weeks while Gordon has to sit, Kessler has time to get acclimated to the pro game or be replaced. And when he returns, Gordon can perhaps emerge again as the go to guy with no Coleman around.
Of course, that all depends if there are no more paternity suits or another lawbreaking surprises around the corner.
During the next two weeks while Gordon has to sit, Kessler has time to get acclimated to the pro game or be replaced. And when he returns, Gordon can perhaps emerge again as the go to guy with no Coleman around.
Of course, that all depends if there are no more paternity suits or another lawbreaking surprises around the corner.
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
A very cool draft, but why's the panther at 1.03 gotta be black? Can't we all just get along?GregR said:
GregR
Footballguy
I'm guessing only the black panthers get claws made from vibranium.A very cool draft, but why's the panther at 1.03 gotta be black? Can't we all just get along?GregR said:
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
So it was a "deadliest creature and Marvel comics" draft?
Wolverine should have gone 1.01. I'm just sayin.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
by who? or is it "whom"?zamboni said:
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I've had several offers floated to me - none fair value IMO. With his name & "arrest report" in the headlines, they think I might be jumpy. They obviously don't understand the near-Soulfly3 levels of
I have for Gordon. Josh Gordon is a monumental F-up, but he is also an undeniable target on the field. He will win any game of 3-files up the Browns want to play, and the Browns will play that game with him because he's a foot taller and has 18" longer arms than anyone on defense. He just goes up and gets everything thrown his way - so even if it's a rookie throwing wobbly duck bombs to him, he's going to be a monster. And without Coleman, possibly even moreso.
Then McCown comes back in a few weeks and the fireworks can really begin.
He just needs to stay out of trouble for a week. Hey, don't laugh - it could happen?
So to answer specifically, I've rejected all lowball offers, and I would not sell low on him. I might however sell high after he comes back and explodes for a huge game.
zamboni
Footballguy
What headache? He's not missed any games that we didn't already know he'd miss (in redrafts at least).
I'm 0-2 and my whole team is a MASH unit (lost AP, D Martin, Moncrief + Rawls is banged up/ineffective and now Gates is very questionable) so take this with a grain of salt. But another owner offered me Jeremy Hill and Julius Thomas for Gordon and Martin. Standard scoring/redraft league. I strongly considered it...and think it's a fair deal...but I just can't pull the trigger. Too much regret if Gordon goes off as we all know he's capable.I've had several offers floated to me - none fair value IMO. With his name & "arrest report" in the headlines, they think I might be jumpy. They obviously don't understand the near-Soulfly3 levels of
Josh Gordon is a monumental F-up, but he is also an undeniable target on the field. He will win any game of 3-files up the Browns want to play, and the Browns will play that game with him because he's a foot taller and has 18" longer arms than anyone on defense. He just goes up and gets everything thrown his way - so even if it's a rookie throwing wobbly duck bombs to him, he's going to be a monster. And without Coleman, possibly even moreso.
Then McCown comes back in a few weeks and the fireworks can really begin.
He just needs to stay out of trouble for a week. Hey, don't laugh - it could happen?
So to answer specifically, I've rejected all lowball offers, and I would not sell low on him. I might however sell high after he comes back and explodes for a huge game.
