WR Josh Gordon, KC (9 Viewers)

[Coeur de Lion]

marijuana addiction is not a joke, you numbskulls.

All kidding aside, psychological addiction to weed can be a pretty big deal that can absolutely cause big problems in people's lives. Which it looks to be doing in Gordon's case.I've got an acquaintance that I used to be much better friends with in my early / mid 20s when a bunch of us used to hang out getting stoned and playing Madden pretty much every night after work. Obviously, as everyone got older, got real jobs, got married, and had kids those days of heading out to the bars with the one hitter box and partying 6-7 nights a week stopped. For most of us. For this guy that never stopped, and he's been pulled over twice now and busted for weed leaving the bars late at night. He's lost jobs, and can't get a decent one now with the multiple arrests. His wife left him and now he doesn't see his two kids anymore except on weekends. I bumped into him a few months ago at a bar, and guess what? He wanted to know if I wanted to step outside so he could smoke me out. He's not a bad guy, and certainly not a stupid person overall, but just continues to self medicate and take huge stupid risks to do so. But weed isn't ever addictive, right?

ETA: I'm guessing quite a few of us know "that guy." And while weed should be legal, it isn't. And continuing to risk one's livelihood to use it in the face of massive consequences pretty much fits the textbook definition of addiction, physical withdrawal or not.

 

[Soulfly3]

Marijuana is a coping mechanism for your friend; not the cause of his shortcomings.

 

[Phenix]

I have been high for the past 15 years of my life at every moment. I am dependent of it.

On the flip side, I have been highly successful at my job, have a hot successful woman, have an adorable healthy child, have not been in any accidents that were my fault, have had only one ticket, have not been arrested or charged with a crime and am happy in my life. Plus, I win more than i lose in fantasy football so it helps me there. I even have raised a lot of money for charities in my day that has made a difference. Other than eating a little more than I should and making people angry with my point of view, things go well.

Take the herb a way and my world changes. Now, why would I quit? For the sake of not being dependent, to save some money, to not get in trouble with the law? Please, not in this crazy life. I'm a realist i know people have addictive behaviors and weed is mine. I quit weed my addictive behavior will go elsewhere and I dont want that to risk being something else.

My father was an alcoholic and died early with no success. I will stay the course on weed as it has not effect me negatively accept spending a few bucks, while I have seen alcohol cost many people a lot more.

I have seen the world in a sober mind a few times, it sucks, I rather be high.

LEGALIZE IT! lol

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Marijuana is a coping mechanism for your friend; not the cause of his shortcomings.

Right. But he clearly needs it, as do many others to cope with depression, anxiety, what have you. People get hooked on all kinds of stuff from food to gambling to shopping to sex to drugs. When it starts to cause major disruptions in one's life it becomes an issue. When one continues to engage in the problem behavior despite the disruptions, it's addiction. Regardless of whether the body actually has a physical need or not.

 

[Ditka Butkus]

I have been high for the past 15 years of my life at every moment. I am dependent of it.

On the flip side, I have been highly successful at my job, have a hot successful woman, have an adorable healthy child, have not been in any accidents that were my fault, have had only one ticket, have not been arrested or charged with a crime and am happy in my life. Plus, I win more than i lose in fantasy football so it helps me there. I even have raised a lot of money for charities in my day that has made a difference. Other than eating a little more than I should and making people angry with my point of view, things go well.

Take the herb a way and my world changes. Now, why would I quit? For the sake of not being dependent, to save some money, to not get in trouble with the law? Please, not in this crazy life. I'm a realist i know people have addictive behaviors and weed is mine. I quit weed my addictive behavior will go elsewhere and I dont want that to risk being something else.

My father was an alcoholic and died early with no success. I will stay the course on weed as it has not effect me negatively accept spending a few bucks, while I have seen alcohol cost many people a lot more.

I have seen the world in a sober mind a few times, it sucks, I rather be high.

LEGALIZE IT! lol

You may want to deodorize...The weed makes you chronic users smelly #####es.

 

[Phenix]

I have been high for the past 15 years of my life at every moment. I am dependent of it.

On the flip side, I have been highly successful at my job, have a hot successful woman, have an adorable healthy child, have not been in any accidents that were my fault, have had only one ticket, have not been arrested or charged with a crime and am happy in my life. Plus, I win more than i lose in fantasy football so it helps me there. I even have raised a lot of money for charities in my day that has made a difference. Other than eating a little more than I should and making people angry with my point of view, things go well.

Take the herb a way and my world changes. Now, why would I quit? For the sake of not being dependent, to save some money, to not get in trouble with the law? Please, not in this crazy life. I'm a realist i know people have addictive behaviors and weed is mine. I quit weed my addictive behavior will go elsewhere and I dont want that to risk being something else.

My father was an alcoholic and died early with no success. I will stay the course on weed as it has not effect me negatively accept spending a few bucks, while I have seen alcohol cost many people a lot more.

I have seen the world in a sober mind a few times, it sucks, I rather be high.

LEGALIZE IT! lol

You may want to deodorize...The weed makes you chronic users smelly #####es.

Showers, cologne, hand sanitizer and I wash my hands a lot because I'm a germaphobe. But yeah for the most part, the smell lingers.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

I have been high for the past 15 years of my life at every moment. I am dependent of it.

On the flip side, I have been highly successful at my job, have a hot successful woman, have an adorable healthy child, have not been in any accidents that were my fault, have had only one ticket, have not been arrested or charged with a crime and am happy in my life. Plus, I win more than i lose in fantasy football so it helps me there. I even have raised a lot of money for charities in my day that has made a difference. Other than eating a little more than I should and making people angry with my point of view, things go well.

Take the herb a way and my world changes. Now, why would I quit? For the sake of not being dependent, to save some money, to not get in trouble with the law? Please, not in this crazy life. I'm a realist i know people have addictive behaviors and weed is mine. I quit weed my addictive behavior will go elsewhere and I dont want that to risk being something else.

My father was an alcoholic and died early with no success. I will stay the course on weed as it has not effect me negatively accept spending a few bucks, while I have seen alcohol cost many people a lot more.

I have seen the world in a sober mind a few times, it sucks, I rather be high.

LEGALIZE IT! lol

You may want to deodorize...The weed makes you chronic users smelly #####es.

Showers, cologne, hand sanitizer and I wash my hands a lot because I'm a germaphobe. But yeah for the most part, the smell lingers.

Vape it dawg. Healthier, no smell, and you get much better bang for your buck. Or so I've heard.

 

[Concept Coop]

Marijuana is a coping mechanism for your friend; not the cause of his shortcomings.

I know that "addiction" is very commonly used to mean "physical addiction", but it's much more than that. And the impact of non-physical addiction on the brain has been proven.

 

[JohnnyU]

weed is bad, mmkay?

The worse thing that can happen to you with weed is that you could miss your exit when driving. I know this for a fact.

Eating two week old leftover takeout shrimp chop suey from the back of the fridge because you're all kinds of ripped up and Jimmy John's just stopped delivering and "what the hell, it smells OK" sucks for the next 24 hours or so also. Or so I've heard.

Pot doesn't make everyone stupid. Or so I've heard

 

[dickey moe]

marijuana addiction is not a joke, you numbskulls.

I had a friend who started off just taking a toke once and a while. Soon he began to roll joints for us and take 2-3 hits... Soon he began smoking pinners to himself and even went so far as smoking marijuana crystals from a bong.

one day we were really high from taking the marijuana cigarette and he decide that he wanted double pepperoni on the pizza. he laughed so hard while eating that he inhaled a pepperoni by mistake and it got stuck in his lung.

He didnt know it, but the salt content started curing his lung from the inside and how he only has one good lung, and the other is a naturally cured sausage in his body

I have to admit I laughed.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

weed is bad, mmkay?

The worse thing that can happen to you with weed is that you could miss your exit when driving. I know this for a fact.

Eating two week old leftover takeout shrimp chop suey from the back of the fridge because you're all kinds of ripped up and Jimmy John's just stopped delivering and "what the hell, it smells OK" sucks for the next 24 hours or so also. Or so I've heard.

Pot doesn't make everyone stupid. Or so I've heard

you spelled stoopid wrong

 

[King of the Jungle]

Hopefully the suspension comes soon so I stop compulsively looking in this thread every day.

 

[Bruce Hammond]

Hopefully the suspension comes soon so I stop compulsively looking in this thread every day.

Why? This thread has been high entertainment to read for days when I sit down for a quick meal or snack. I'll be sad to see it go.

 

[SelenaCat]

I know that "addiction" is very commonly used to mean "physical addiction", but it's much more than that. And the impact of non-physical addiction on the brain has been proven.

Psychological addiction is definitely a very real thing, just ask any compulsive gambler.

Though with anything that alters your brain chemistry, there will be a physical aspect as well. Just like taking testosterone supplements will make your body stop producing natural testosterone, or chronic antidepressant use can lead producing less neurotransmitters, any psychotropic drug is likely to have long-term effects. How great an effect, or how long the effect persists, are obviously the key factors here, but there *is* a physical effect. Unfortunately, we just don't have the data on such things yet since it's very difficult to conduct research on illicit drug use. But we'll know for certain soon enough now that it's becoming legalized.

 

[Ditka Butkus]

I know that "addiction" is very commonly used to mean "physical addiction", but it's much more than that. And the impact of non-physical addiction on the brain has been proven.

Psychological addiction is definitely a very real thing, just ask any compulsive gambler.

Though with anything that alters your brain chemistry, there will be a physical aspect as well. Just like taking testosterone supplements will make your body stop producing natural testosterone, or chronic antidepressant use can lead producing less neurotransmitters, any psychotropic drug is likely to have long-term effects. How great an effect, or how long the effect persists, are obviously the key factors here, but there *is* a physical effect. Unfortunately, we just don't have the data on such things yet since it's very difficult to conduct research on illicit drug use. But we'll know for certain soon enough now that it's becoming legalized.

I just saw a study that said weed doesn't harm the lungs like cigarettes....of course the study was basically done on once a week pot smokers (flawed)....I would imagine when it becomes legal you will see your once a week users go daily.

 

[Kevrunner]

When the commish tells Josh Gordon that he is suspended for 1 year, I'm picturing Gordon saying this:

Josh's Response

 

[cstu]

When the commish tells Josh Gordon that he is suspended for 1 year, I'm picturing Gordon saying this:

Josh's Response

Josh 'Spicoli' Gordon, nice ring to it.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Washington jumped from a 4 game suspension to a full year....as did Blackmon. Not looking good for Gordon.

 

[Soulfly3]

Washington choked a girl out and caused her to break bones.

Blackmon busted for substance abuse AND arrests.

Not all that similar

 

[cdubz]

Washington choked a girl out and caused her to break bones.

Blackmon busted for substance abuse AND arrests.

Not all that similar

I'll cut and paste from the Washington thread:

http://www.azcardina...9d-87bd39b36aad

The suspension is for a violation of the league’s substance abuse policy, the same reason Washington was suspended last year, and unrelated to Washington’s recent plea bargain for an assault charge. The suspension begins immediately.

 

[Soulfly3]

Lol, what?

The league is going to do nothing about the chokeout?

Come on

 

[Braktastic]

Lol, what?

The league is going to do nothing about the chokeout?

Come on

I'm not sure if you're trying to imply that Washington's one-year suspension was somehow impacted by the chokeout or not, but most likely the NFL just picked the most ironclad of reasons given to them by this ##### so they could kick him out of the league for a year under the CBA as to not have to deal with him or the NFLPA anymore on the matter.

 

[cdubz]

Lol, what?

The league is going to do nothing about the chokeout?

Come on

I'm not sure if you're trying to imply that Washington's one-year suspension was somehow impacted by the chokeout or not, but most likely the NFL just picked the most ironclad of reasons given to them by this ##### so they could kick him out of the league for a year under the CBA as to not have to deal with him or the NFLPA anymore on the matter.

Yep, also assuming he is going to need to apply for reinstatement. At which point, Goodell can lengthen the suspension time based on the aggravated assault charge I would imagine.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Lol, what?

The league is going to do nothing about the chokeout?

Come on

It's outrageous, but it would be par for the course.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Lol, what?

The league is going to do nothing about the chokeout?

Come on

It's outrageous, but it would be par for the course.

Not directed at you CDC or Soulfly but why is it when a guy gets suspended everyone runs to another guy who did something wrong and acts all confused about the NFL and how these punishments are handed out?

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Lol, what?

The league is going to do nothing about the chokeout?

Come on

It's outrageous, but it would be par for the course.

Maybe the assault enters the league's thought process when Washinton applies for reinstatement. The failed drug test allowed the NFL to punt on the assault charges for now, because that comes with an automatic one year suspencion.

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

Lol, what?

The league is going to do nothing about the chokeout?

Come on

It's outrageous, but it would be par for the course.

Not directed at you CDC or Soulfly but why is it when a guy gets suspended everyone runs to another guy who did something wrong and acts all confused about the NFL and how these punishments are handed out?

Because we STILL don't have a Gordon suspension?

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Lol, what?

The league is going to do nothing about the chokeout?

Come on

It's outrageous, but it would be par for the course.

Maybe the assault enters the league's thought process when Washinton applies for reinstatement. The failed drug test allowed the NFL to punt on the assault charges for now, because that comes with an automatic one year suspencion.

Yeah, who knows what they're thinking -- but the pattern has been pretty clearly established. I'd bet a pretty decent chunk of money that Gordon misses more games this year for smoking a joint than Rice does for KTFO his wife, and I find that absurd.

 

[KellysHeroes]

very little doubt thats hes not getting a yr, imo

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

So..when does the league announce this? Should be soon, right?

yeah whats the deal?

Is the appeal on-going or is the initial suspension for the 2014 season yet to be handed out?

 

[Childress]

A number of suspensions being announced today, whether it's a year or shorter I would really just like to know.

 

[False Start]

Goodell could be paving the way for the bombshell announcements of rice and Gordon soon.

 

[massraider]

Goodell could be paving the way for the bombshell announcements of rice and Gordon soon.

Yes, he's probably letting the suspense build for a bombshell announcement. He's probably waiting for the NBA and NHL playoffs to end so he can get maximum exposure for his failed players. Yeah, that's probably what he's doing.

 

[Bamac]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000354781/article/giants-safety-will-hill-suspended-six-games-after-lost-appeal

Will Hill just got six games for substance abuse after getting a four-game suspension for substance abuse last year. Strongly suggests the 2010 policy is still in effect.

 

[False Start]

Goodell could be paving the way for the bombshell announcements of rice and Gordon soon.

Yes, he's probably letting the suspense build for a bombshell announcement. He's probably waiting for the NBA and NHL playoffs to end so he can get maximum exposure for his failed players. Yeah, that's probably what he's doing.

You are right. Far be it from the NFL to maximize its exposure on all fronts. Even in announcing suspensions it creates a media circus the NFL loves. Didn't they delay the schedule announcement release to gain maximum exposure? It's entirely possible so why act as if its not.

The NBA even televised the announcement of Donald Sterlings banishment. Its what leagues do to maximize the products exposure in any way. Which I should point out Sterling makes racist remarks and gets banned and sells his team for a unreal record breaking 2B because of the fallout. No publicity is bad publicity.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Haha , so much confusion. The Will Hill suspension is only 6 games after his 3rd violation.

 

[Soulfly3]

Everything is coming up Soulfly

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Everything is coming up Soulfly

Perhaps you missed Washington's suspension length?

 

[Soulfly3]

Everything is coming up Soulfly

Perhaps you missed Washington's suspension length?

No, I saw it

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Everything is coming up Soulfly

Perhaps you missed Washington's suspension length?

No, I saw it

Oh, Will Hill's first suspension was for PEDs, so a different policy. It was only his second violation of the substance abuse policy. Carry on.

 

[Soulfly3]

Everything is coming up Soulfly

Perhaps you missed Washington's suspension length?

No, I saw it

Oh, Will Hill's first suspension was for PEDs, so a different policy. It was only his second violation of the substance abuse policy. Carry on.

Washington got 4 games last year, ya?

 

[Bamac]

Everything is coming up Soulfly

Perhaps you missed Washington's suspension length?

No, I saw it

Oh, Will Hill's first suspension was for PEDs, so a different policy. It was only his second violation of the substance abuse policy. Carry on.

Hill got a four-gamer for PED, then a four-gamer for substance abuse followed by a six-gamer for substance abuse. Ignoring the PED suspension because it's a different "track", Hill's situation looks (from the outside) like Gordon's. But so did Blackmon's. Hill's suspension merely shows that a year ban isn't a foregone conclusion.

 

[Milkman]

The longer this drags on the more Gordon has a shot at playing this year imo. I mean what are they waiting for if it's an open and shut case?

 

[massraider]

Goodell could be paving the way for the bombshell announcements of rice and Gordon soon.

Yes, he's probably letting the suspense build for a bombshell announcement. He's probably waiting for the NBA and NHL playoffs to end so he can get maximum exposure for his failed players. Yeah, that's probably what he's doing.

You are right. Far be it from the NFL to maximize its exposure on all fronts. Even in announcing suspensions it creates a media circus the NFL loves. Didn't they delay the schedule announcement release to gain maximum exposure? It's entirely possible so why act as if its not.

The NBA even televised the announcement of Donald Sterlings banishment. Its what leagues do to maximize the products exposure in any way. Which I should point out Sterling makes racist remarks and gets banned and sells his team for a unreal record breaking 2B because of the fallout. No publicity is bad publicity.

There's no coincidence that news like this gets announced on Fridays. It's designed to minimize the story as much as possible.

 

[DaveGrumbles]

Goodell could be paving the way for the bombshell announcements of rice and Gordon soon.

Yes, he's probably letting the suspense build for a bombshell announcement. He's probably waiting for the NBA and NHL playoffs to end so he can get maximum exposure for his failed players. Yeah, that's probably what he's doing.

You are right. Far be it from the NFL to maximize its exposure on all fronts. Even in announcing suspensions it creates a media circus the NFL loves. Didn't they delay the schedule announcement release to gain maximum exposure? It's entirely possible so why act as if its not.

The NBA even televised the announcement of Donald Sterlings banishment. Its what leagues do to maximize the products exposure in any way. Which I should point out Sterling makes racist remarks and gets banned and sells his team for a unreal record breaking 2B because of the fallout. No publicity is bad publicity.

That's really not how public relations works.

If you have something to announce about you (or the organization you represent) that will put you in a negative light, then you do it in the quietest manner allowed. The Sterling story already had massive news coverage by every mainstream national news outlet. It was THE news story. If Adam Silver had tried to announce the suspension from his bedroom closet, the media would have been there. Every talking head on TV was waiting with bated breath for Silver to drop the hammer. The only people waiting with bated breath on Josh Gordon news are FFB addicts like us and Browns fans...meaning Goodell will probably just quietly release a statement in the next couple weeks or whenever he gets around to it.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

The longer this drags on the more Gordon has a shot at playing this year imo. I mean what are they waiting for if it's an open and shut case?

The appeals process to be over. Will Hill et all could have tested positive before Gordon for all we know but the suspension wasn't leaked like Gordon's.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Hill's suspension merely shows that a year ban isn't a foregone conclusion.

I agree. I have yet to see someone report why or how there could be a difference between what Washington got and what Will Hill got.

Blackmon - 4 games, then one year

Washington - 4 games, then one year

Will Hill - 4 games, then 6 games.

 

[Soulfly3]

Josh Gordon - 2 games,????games

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Josh Gordon - 2 games,????games

He was fined 4 game checks just like the others.

 

[Soulfly3]

Josh Gordon - 2 games,????games

He was fined 4 game checks just like the others.

Only got a 2 game suspension tho