WR Josh Gordon, KC (6 Viewers)

[Ojaays]

so if beats the suspension where do you grab him? Is he worth a first or second rd pick knowing his history of screwing up?

If he wins his appeal, he's probably WR #8 for me behind Demaryius, Calvin, Dez Bryant, AJ Green, Julio, Jordy, and Brandon Marshall. Somewhere in the early-to-mid 2nd round.

If the win is announced before our draft, he won't make it out of the first round.

If it's announced after our draft, I will draft him in the 4th, happily, if he's still there.

 

[smbkrypt24]

so if beats the suspension where do you grab him? Is he worth a first or second rd pick knowing his history of screwing up?

If he wins his appeal, he's probably WR #8 for me behind Demaryius, Calvin, Dez Bryant, AJ Green, Julio, Jordy, and Brandon Marshall. Somewhere in the early-to-mid 2nd round.

If the win is announced before our draft, he won't make it out of the first round.

If it's announced after our draft, I will draft him in the 4th, happily, if he's still there.

I have been following this thread without commenting but would you need to draft him in the 4th? I have been picking him up in the 9th round in 12 team drafts pretty consistently.

 

[Bayhawks]

1st round is too early, even if you disregard any future risk of substance abuse suspension (assuming he gets off this time). He should go early 2nd, but the risk of future drug failures should dr him to the 3rd.

 

[LittlePhatty]

Gordon starting and getting a good amount of PT spoke volumes to me about how the Browns perceive his chances for playing this year.

I don't think so. They have to put aside any guessing and proceed as normal until the official word comes out, even if they think his chances are slim. Any other team would do the same. They'd catch more hell if they held him out and he wound up winning the appeal.

 

[ghostguy123]

Hey guys. Anything interesting happening in here?

Apparently Gordon may get suspended for a year or not at all or somewhere in between.

What about the ability for them to FF games the Browns won last year with a retroactive suspension??

 

[ghostguy123]

so if beats the suspension where do you grab him? Is he worth a first or second rd pick knowing his history of screwing up?

Yes because he generally doesnt screw up during the season.

And I dont expect anything else he did to warrant suspension

 

[Half in the bag]

I don't think the Browns would be playing Gordon with the 1's unless they thought there is a decent chance he'll get less than 16 games.

I don't know. When your other receivers would be considered a #4 receiver on any other team, I think his start is by default.

Reps with the starters are extremely valuable. Especially with a new crop of WRs, however good or bad they might be. Gordon starting and getting a good amount of PT spoke volumes to me about how the Browns perceive his chances for playing this year. They may be way off base in their assessment, but make no mistake, they are MUCH more informed and have A LOT more at stake than any of the armchair sleuths littering this thread.

It could be the Browns coaching staff are inexperienced and have no clue where Gordon stands with the NFL and his appeal. Maybe a coaching staff who is smarter would sit Gordon down and play it safe and get their WR's who are available to play all 16 games get the reps in preseason. Maybe Pettine and co know they can get the reps they need for others in week 2, 3 and 4 of preseason

It could be many things

 

[ghostguy123]

I don't think the Browns would be playing Gordon with the 1's unless they thought there is a decent chance he'll get less than 16 games.

I don't know. When your other receivers would be considered a #4 receiver on any other team, I think his start is by default.

Reps with the starters are extremely valuable. Especially with a new crop of WRs, however good or bad they might be. Gordon starting and getting a good amount of PT spoke volumes to me about how the Browns perceive his chances for playing this year. They may be way off base in their assessment, but make no mistake, they are MUCH more informed and have A LOT more at stake than any of the armchair sleuths littering this thread.

It could be the Browns coaching staff are inexperienced and have no clue where Gordon stands with the NFL and his appeal. Maybe a coaching staff who is smarter would sit Gordon down and play it safe and get their WR's who are available to play all 16 games get the reps in preseason. Maybe Pettine and co know they can get the reps they need for others in week 2, 3 and 4 of preseason

It could be many things

I think it 100% without questions means they think there is a CHANCE he plays this year.

Unfortunately, that really doesnt tell us anything.

 

[LawFitz]

They have more info than we do. Possible a lot more. Playing with the 1's tells me they think he has a decent chance to avoid a 16 game ban. YMMV

 

[amnesiac]

ool.

good luck reading anything into anything at this point.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

They have more info than we do. Possible a lot more. Playing with the 1's tells me they think he has a decent chance to avoid a 16 game ban. YMMV

He didn't practice today, so I guess that means they think he is suspended for life now, right?

 

[LawFitz]

They have more info than we do. Possible a lot more. Playing with the 1's tells me they think he has a decent chance to avoid a 16 game ban. YMMV

He didn't practice today, so I guess that means they think he is suspended for life now, right?

He is dealing with a minor injury. Make friends with Google next time before you decide to be snarky.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

They have more info than we do. Possible a lot more. Playing with the 1's tells me they think he has a decent chance to avoid a 16 game ban. YMMV

He didn't practice today, so I guess that means they think he is suspended for life now, right?

He is dealing with a minor injury. Make friends with Google next time before you decide to be snarky.

Oh gotcha. It only works when you want it. Why didn't you just tell me that?

 

[LawFitz]

They have more info than we do. Possible a lot more. Playing with the 1's tells me they think he has a decent chance to avoid a 16 game ban. YMMV

He didn't practice today, so I guess that means they think he is suspended for life now, right?

He is dealing with a minor injury. Make friends with Google next time before you decide to be snarky.

Oh gotcha. It only works when you want it. Why didn't you just tell me that?

He's sitting out of practice because he's injured. If he was healthy he'd be practicing with the 1's (presumably). Why is that so hard for you to understand?

 

[fridayfrenzy]

They have more info than we do. Possible a lot more. Playing with the 1's tells me they think he has a decent chance to avoid a 16 game ban. YMMV

He didn't practice today, so I guess that means they think he is suspended for life now, right?

He is dealing with a minor injury. Make friends with Google next time before you decide to be snarky.

Oh gotcha. It only works when you want it. Why didn't you just tell me that?

He's sitting out of practice because he's injured. If he was healthy he'd be practicing with the 1's (presumably). Why is that so hard for you to understand?

It is hard for me to understand your logic that playing with the 1s means he has a decent chance of avoiding a 16 game ban. Why does that work, but sitting out a practice with what they call a minor boo boo can not mean the team is holding him out cause he will be suspended for life?

I am applying the same logic as you. It is flawless.

 

[LawFitz]

They have more info than we do. Possible a lot more. Playing with the 1's tells me they think he has a decent chance to avoid a 16 game ban. YMMV

He didn't practice today, so I guess that means they think he is suspended for life now, right?

He is dealing with a minor injury. Make friends with Google next time before you decide to be snarky.

Oh gotcha. It only works when you want it. Why didn't you just tell me that?

He's sitting out of practice because he's injured. If he was healthy he'd be practicing with the 1's (presumably). Why is that so hard for you to understand?

It is hard for me to understand your logic that playing with the 1s means he has a decent chance of avoiding a 16 game ban. Why does that work, but sitting out a practice with what they call a minor boo boo can not mean the team is holding him out cause he will be suspended for life?

I am applying the same logic as you. It is flawless.

Please don't misquote me. I said playing with the 1's means the team thinks he has a decent chance of avoiding a 16 game ban. And that they have better info and more at stake than we do.

If you can't see the difference between that concept and why a stud player would sit out a Monday practice during preseason after suffering (an even minor) injury, then I can't help you, friend.

Cheers.

 

[Clifford]

And that he has 2 or 3 catches now. And Hoyer is going to him in the end zone in this series

What "wows" me is that even with the questionable QB issues on the Browns he is a top 10 WR.

He was no 1 overall last year despite being suspended two games and having by far the worst qb situation in the league.

 

[Soulfly3]

How come his first practice back from rehab, when he was running w the 3s, was a HUGE deal to Gordon haters? It meant the brass knew he was suspended, etc etc

But since that day... exclusive with the 1s. EXCLUSIVE.

Suddenly, that doesn't mean anything.

Carry on, friends... Going to be a glorious moment when he suits up this Monday v the Skins, and every week thereafter.

 

[amnesiac]

How come his first practice back from rehab, when he was running w the 3s, was a HUGE deal to Gordon haters? It meant the brass knew he was suspended, etc etc

But since that day... exclusive with the 1s. EXCLUSIVE.

Suddenly, that doesn't mean anything.

Carry on, friends... Going to be a glorious moment when he suits up this Monday v the Skins, and every week thereafter.

haters?also is there some new information you'd like to share?

 

[fridayfrenzy]

How come his first practice back from rehab, when he was running w the 3s, was a HUGE deal to Gordon haters? It meant the brass knew he was suspended, etc etc

But since that day... exclusive with the 1s. EXCLUSIVE.

Suddenly, that doesn't mean anything.

Carry on, friends... Going to be a glorious moment when he suits up this Monday v the Skins, and every week thereafter.

Playing with the 1s isn't unordinary for Josh Gordon. It is expected.

 

[Soulfly3]

How come his first practice back from rehab, when he was running w the 3s, was a HUGE deal to Gordon haters? It meant the brass knew he was suspended, etc etc

But since that day... exclusive with the 1s. EXCLUSIVE.

Suddenly, that doesn't mean anything.

Carry on, friends... Going to be a glorious moment when he suits up this Monday v the Skins, and every week thereafter.

Playing with the 1s isn't unordinary for Josh Gordon. It is expected.

It wasn't me making a stink about him playing with the 3s after his rehab stint.

 

[Phenomena]

Still nothing? Sheesh they really weren't kidding when they said 1-3 weeks. I still don't understand why it takes so long.

The longer this takes the more likely I think he plays at some point this season. I think the NFL recognizes that a year ban for extremely low levels of weed is perceived as insane when Ray Rice got two games for punching out his girlfriend.

I would argue Goodell is the most acute sports commissioner when it comes to the pulse of the average sports fan, and doing whatever it takes to grow/maintain the popularity of the sport. I would be shocked if he isn't personally advising the result of this case (when it's not really his direct job to do so).

I think they are trying to come up with a solution reflects the changing viewpoint on weed while taking into account the seriousness of the PED movement and the fact that he did technically break the rules. I see either an 8-game ban or a year-ban with eligibility to reinstatement after 8 games. Keep in mind it's also possible his argument was solid enough that he completely gets off (however unlikely). The threshold for his test was absurdly low.

 

[amnesiac]

How come his first practice back from rehab, when he was running w the 3s, was a HUGE deal to Gordon haters? It meant the brass knew he was suspended, etc etc

But since that day... exclusive with the 1s. EXCLUSIVE.

Suddenly, that doesn't mean anything.

Carry on, friends... Going to be a glorious moment when he suits up this Monday v the Skins, and every week thereafter.

Playing with the 1s isn't unordinary for Josh Gordon. It is expected.

It wasn't me making a stink about him playing with the 3s after his rehab stint.

why are you bringing this up now?

 

[Soulfly3]

How come his first practice back from rehab, when he was running w the 3s, was a HUGE deal to Gordon haters? It meant the brass knew he was suspended, etc etc

But since that day... exclusive with the 1s. EXCLUSIVE.

Suddenly, that doesn't mean anything.

Carry on, friends... Going to be a glorious moment when he suits up this Monday v the Skins, and every week thereafter.

Playing with the 1s isn't unordinary for Josh Gordon. It is expected.

It wasn't me making a stink about him playing with the 3s after his rehab stint.

why are you bringing this up now?

because the player in question is a top 3 wr in the league.

and he is STILL being treated as much by his team (who knows a hell of a lot more about the situation than we do), regardless of the fact that so many believe 16 games is a lock.

also, interesting to note that Pettine said Gordon would play w the 1st and 2nd team during their first preseason game. But was pulled immediately when the 2nd strings came on. Manziel got no Gordon time, at all.

A sign?

Ready to practice thru his abdominal injury yesterday and today, but being held out by his coaching staff... a sign?

I think so. They're keeping the boy FRESH

 

[Ditka Butkus]

Still nothing? Sheesh they really weren't kidding when they said 1-3 weeks. I still don't understand why it takes so long.

The longer this takes the more likely I think he plays at some point this season. I think the NFL recognizes that a year ban for extremely low levels of weed is perceived as insane when Ray Rice got two games for punching out his girlfriend.

I would argue Goodell is the most acute sports commissioner when it comes to the pulse of the average sports fan, and doing whatever it takes to grow/maintain the popularity of the sport. I would be shocked if he isn't personally advising the result of this case (when it's not really his direct job to do so).

I think they are trying to come up with a solution reflects the changing viewpoint on weed while taking into account the seriousness of the PED movement and the fact that he did technically break the rules. I see either an 8-game ban or a year-ban with eligibility to reinstatement after 8 games. Keep in mind it's also possible his argument was solid enough that he completely gets off (however unlikely). The threshold for his test was absurdly low.

I thought we already established one has absolutely nothing to do with the other.

 

[Ditka Butkus]

How come his first practice back from rehab, when he was running w the 3s, was a HUGE deal to Gordon haters? It meant the brass knew he was suspended, etc etc

But since that day... exclusive with the 1s. EXCLUSIVE.

Suddenly, that doesn't mean anything.

Carry on, friends... Going to be a glorious moment when he suits up this Monday v the Skins, and every week thereafter.

Playing with the 1s isn't unordinary for Josh Gordon. It is expected.

It wasn't me making a stink about him playing with the 3s after his rehab stint.

why are you bringing this up now?

because the player in question is a top 3 wr in the league.

and he is STILL being treated as much by his team (who knows a hell of a lot more about the situation than we do), regardless of the fact that so many believe 16 games is a lock.

also, interesting to note that Pettine said Gordon would play w the 1st and 2nd team during their first preseason game. But was pulled immediately when the 2nd strings came on. Manziel got no Gordon time, at all.

A sign?

Ready to practice thru his abdominal injury yesterday and today, but being held out by his coaching staff... a sign?

I think so. They're keeping the boy FRESH

You apparently have never been involved with an arbitration before.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

How come his first practice back from rehab, when he was running w the 3s, was a HUGE deal to Gordon haters? It meant the brass knew he was suspended, etc etc

But since that day... exclusive with the 1s. EXCLUSIVE.

Suddenly, that doesn't mean anything.

Carry on, friends... Going to be a glorious moment when he suits up this Monday v the Skins, and every week thereafter.

Playing with the 1s isn't unordinary for Josh Gordon. It is expected.

It wasn't me making a stink about him playing with the 3s after his rehab stint.

Good to know. Thanks.

 

[Soulfly3]

How come his first practice back from rehab, when he was running w the 3s, was a HUGE deal to Gordon haters? It meant the brass knew he was suspended, etc etc

But since that day... exclusive with the 1s. EXCLUSIVE.

Suddenly, that doesn't mean anything.

Carry on, friends... Going to be a glorious moment when he suits up this Monday v the Skins, and every week thereafter.

Playing with the 1s isn't unordinary for Josh Gordon. It is expected.

It wasn't me making a stink about him playing with the 3s after his rehab stint.

why are you bringing this up now?

because the player in question is a top 3 wr in the league.

and he is STILL being treated as much by his team (who knows a hell of a lot more about the situation than we do), regardless of the fact that so many believe 16 games is a lock.

also, interesting to note that Pettine said Gordon would play w the 1st and 2nd team during their first preseason game. But was pulled immediately when the 2nd strings came on. Manziel got no Gordon time, at all.

A sign?

Ready to practice thru his abdominal injury yesterday and today, but being held out by his coaching staff... a sign?

I think so. They're keeping the boy FRESH

You apparently have never been involved with an arbitration before.

If you believe that you know just as much about the situation as the Browns, you're entitled to that opinion.

 

[Ditka Butkus]

How come his first practice back from rehab, when he was running w the 3s, was a HUGE deal to Gordon haters? It meant the brass knew he was suspended, etc etc

But since that day... exclusive with the 1s. EXCLUSIVE.

Suddenly, that doesn't mean anything.

Carry on, friends... Going to be a glorious moment when he suits up this Monday v the Skins, and every week thereafter.

Playing with the 1s isn't unordinary for Josh Gordon. It is expected.

It wasn't me making a stink about him playing with the 3s after his rehab stint.

why are you bringing this up now?

because the player in question is a top 3 wr in the league.

and he is STILL being treated as much by his team (who knows a hell of a lot more about the situation than we do), regardless of the fact that so many believe 16 games is a lock.

also, interesting to note that Pettine said Gordon would play w the 1st and 2nd team during their first preseason game. But was pulled immediately when the 2nd strings came on. Manziel got no Gordon time, at all.

A sign?

Ready to practice thru his abdominal injury yesterday and today, but being held out by his coaching staff... a sign?

I think so. They're keeping the boy FRESH

You apparently have never been involved with an arbitration before.

If you believe that you know just as much about the situation as the Browns, you're entitled to that opinion.

What I do know is during arbitration the parties involved have no clue until the arbitrator renders his decision.

 

[Bamac]

Still nothing? Sheesh they really weren't kidding when they said 1-3 weeks. I still don't understand why it takes so long.

It's been 8 days. As I said upthread, an arbitrator has to do quite a bit of work before issuing a decision.

 

[amnesiac]

so you basically bumped this train wreck of a thread for no reason.

 

[LawFitz]

I think the NFL recognizes that a year ban for extremely low levels of weed is perceived as insane when Ray Rice got two games for punching out his girlfriend.

I thought we already established one has absolutely nothing to do with the other.

I believe they are absolutely related. Goodell and the NFL owners are extremely PR sensitive. It could easily make a difference on at least a marginal level as the powers deliberate the resolution.

 

[Ditka Butkus]

I think the NFL recognizes that a year ban for extremely low levels of weed is perceived as insane when Ray Rice got two games for punching out his girlfriend.

I thought we already established one has absolutely nothing to do with the other.

I believe they are absolutely related. Goodell and the NFL owners are extremely PR sensitive. It could easily make a difference on at least a marginal level as the powers deliberate the resolution.

So is Goodell going write in his decision... I know the players agreement specifically stipulates a minimum one year suspension, but being Ray Rice coldcocked his girlfriend and I only suspended him 2 games, I will lessen Josh Gordon's suspension by 8 games.

 

[Soulfly3]

I think the NFL recognizes that a year ban for extremely low levels of weed is perceived as insane when Ray Rice got two games for punching out his girlfriend.

I thought we already established one has absolutely nothing to do with the other.

I believe they are absolutely related. Goodell and the NFL owners are extremely PR sensitive. It could easily make a difference on at least a marginal level as the powers deliberate the resolution.

So is Goodell going write in his decision... I know the players agreement specifically stipulates a minimum one year suspension, but being Ray Rice coldcocked his girlfriend and I only suspended him 2 games, I will lessen Josh Gordon's suspension by 8 games.

Goodell can do whatever he wants. He's the commissioner.

He halved Gordon's suspension last time, which proves, without question, he has the ability to make amendments as he sees fit.

Conversely, he can say "well, the test was messed up, zero games", if his prerogative is to keep Gordon playing.

he has that power.

 

[Bamac]

Prediction: Gordon plays in one more preseason game (next Monday), and gets an indefinite ban next Tuesday.

 

[LawFitz]

I think the NFL recognizes that a year ban for extremely low levels of weed is perceived as insane when Ray Rice got two games for punching out his girlfriend.

I thought we already established one has absolutely nothing to do with the other.

I believe they are absolutely related. Goodell and the NFL owners are extremely PR sensitive. It could easily make a difference on at least a marginal level as the powers deliberate the resolution.

So is Goodell going write in his decision... I know the players agreement specifically stipulates a minimum one year suspension, but being Ray Rice coldcocked his girlfriend and I only suspended him 2 games, I will lessen Josh Gordon's suspension by 8 games.

I believe the Ray Rice situation will have the NFL powers leaning towards the easy side of the fence in the Gordon situation. If there's an out inside the CBA language, they'll find it. I suspect there is one, or otherwise we'd already have a decision AND Gordon wouldn't be taking invaluable practice time away from the 1's. JMO, though. Carry on.

 

[LawFitz]

so you basically bumped this train wreck of a thread for no reason.

I'm discussing Gordon's time being spent exclusively with the 1s and how that can be related to his suspension, or lack thereof.

You're free to not partake in this discussion, if it isn't up to your standards.

your tone is inflammatory and your information irrelevant.have fun with your "discussion".

I get that SF has turned a lot of people off in this thread, but your post here is terribly off base. Your tone is as much, if not more inflammatory than his.

And Gordon playing with the 1's seems fairly relevant to some of us. Are we not allowed to discuss it because you disagree?

 

[Dismattle]

http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&action=blog&r=18&post_id=36071 good questions (good answers as usual imo)

Hey Tony: If Josh Gordon gets his year “indefinite” suspension in a couple weeks, from my understanding, he won't be eligible for reinstatement for a full year. If this is the case, the NFL dragging this out will cost Gordon most of next year’s training camp also. Is this true, or fair?

-- Josh, Galena, OH

• Hey Josh: Yes, if the NFL follows “the letter of the law” and suspends Gordon indefinitely, he would be out a minimum of a calendar year beginning with the announcement of suspension. I think the NFL will bend on this draconian punishment. I suspect the NFL will hand down an indefinite suspension, but allow Gordon to apply for reinstatement in less than a year; say, after eight games. In this example, Gordon would have to pass numerous drug tests and personal examinations by the league’s medical director in order to be reinstated.

Hey Tony: Any chance the NFL's continued delay in the Josh Gordon ruling is because the NFL wants the Ray Rice smoke to clear a bit, hoping for less of a backlash if they suspend Gordon eight games or more?

-- Paul, Seattle WA

• Hey Paul: I believe the controversially lenient two-game suspension for Rice is working in Gordon’s favor. However, I don’t believe Commissioner Roger Goodell is dragging his feet to distance himself from the Rice ruling. I think the delay was mostly caused by the volume of testimony and evidence put forward by the Gordon camp in the appeals hearing.

 

[Soulfly3]

And Gordon playing with the 1's seems fairly relevant to some of us. Are we not allowed to discuss it because you disagree?

It's only relevant if he plays with the 3s apparently.

 

[cstu]

Hey Tony: If Josh Gordon gets his year “indefinite” suspension in a couple weeks, from my understanding, he won't be eligible for reinstatement for a full year. If this is the case, the NFL dragging this out will cost Gordon most of next year’s training camp also. Is this true, or fair?

-- Josh, Galena, OH

Hey Josh: Yes, if the NFL follows “the letter of the law” and suspends Gordon indefinitely, he would be out a minimum of a calendar year beginning with the announcement of suspension. I think the NFL will bend on this draconian punishment. I suspect the NFL will hand down an indefinite suspension, but allow Gordon to apply for reinstatement in less than a year; say, after eight games. In this example, Gordon would have to pass numerous drug tests and personal examinations by the league’s medical director in order to be reinstated.

Sure...

 

[Ditka Butkus]

And Gordon playing with the 1's seems fairly relevant to some of us. Are we not allowed to discuss it because you disagree?

It's only relevant if he plays with the 3s apparently.

With this logic couldn't we just as easy surmise that Gordon's "injury" is actually the Browns knowing he is going to be shut down and them not wanting to tip their hand, wouldn't that be a fair assumption?

 

[Soulfly3]

And Gordon playing with the 1's seems fairly relevant to some of us. Are we not allowed to discuss it because you disagree?

It's only relevant if he plays with the 3s apparently.

With this logic couldn't we just as easy surmise that Gordon's "injury" is actually the Browns knowing he is going to be shut down and them not wanting to tip their hand, wouldn't that be a fair assumption?

If you believe that to be the case, that's your right.

I think he injured himself on his first catch last game - was slow to get up.

 

[LawFitz]

And Gordon playing with the 1's seems fairly relevant to some of us. Are we not allowed to discuss it because you disagree?

It's only relevant if he plays with the 3s apparently.

With this logic couldn't we just as easy surmise that Gordon's "injury" is actually the Browns knowing he is going to be shut down and them not wanting to tip their hand, wouldn't that be a fair assumption?

If you believe that to be the case, that's your right.

I think he injured himself on his first catch last game - was slow to get up.

Petine said during the postgame news conference that Gordon got nicked up and they shut him down early as a result.

 

[Soulfly3]

And Gordon playing with the 1's seems fairly relevant to some of us. Are we not allowed to discuss it because you disagree?

It's only relevant if he plays with the 3s apparently.

With this logic couldn't we just as easy surmise that Gordon's "injury" is actually the Browns knowing he is going to be shut down and them not wanting to tip their hand, wouldn't that be a fair assumption?

If you believe that to be the case, that's your right.

I think he injured himself on his first catch last game - was slow to get up.

Petine said during the postgame news conference that Gordon got nicked up and they shut him down early as a result.

Ya. I didnt like how he gt up from that first catch/tackle. Was very awkward. Played thru it tho, and seemingly wants to continue playing thru it.

Im glad theyre shutting him down for a few days.

 

[Bayhawks]

I've read a number of places that the Browns "expect" an 8 game ban. If they truly believe this (and it's not more of the questionable reporting that has surrounded this story), it makes perfect sense for them to give him PT with the 1's, since he is clearly going to be their #1 WR whenever he can play.

That being said, I don't know what this "expectation" is based on, and I seriously doubt that the Browns have any secret information about what the outcome of Gordon's appeal is. They do, however, need to prepare for all scenarios (gets off completely, suspended for less than a full year, suspended for the entire year). Playing him with the 1's covers 2 of those scenarios, as does allowing him to rest a minor injury.

I think anyone trying to read into where/when he practices as some sign of what the resolution of this case will be is grasping at straws (and probably doing so based on his/her per-conceived belief of how it will end).

 

[Ojaays]

I've read a number of places that the Browns "expect" an 8 game ban. If they truly believe this (and it's not more of the questionable reporting that has surrounded this story), it makes perfect sense for them to give him PT with the 1's, since he is clearly going to be their #1 WR whenever he can play.

That being said, I don't know what this "expectation" is based on, and I seriously doubt that the Browns have any secret information about what the outcome of Gordon's appeal is. They do, however, need to prepare for all scenarios (gets off completely, suspended for less than a full year, suspended for the entire year). Playing him with the 1's covers 2 of those scenarios, as does allowing him to rest a minor injury.

I think anyone trying to read into where/when he practices as some sign of what the resolution of this case will be is grasping at straws (and probably doing so based on his/her per-conceived belief of how it will end).

The "8game ban" story was started by a Cleveland reporter, and it's nothing more than speculation.

It carries no more or less weight than my speculation that he will get 16 or 0, with the emphasis on 0.

Everyone hold your fire, we will hear soon enough.

 

[Anarchy99]

I've read a number of places that the Browns "expect" an 8 game ban. If they truly believe this (and it's not more of the questionable reporting that has surrounded this story), it makes perfect sense for them to give him PT with the 1's, since he is clearly going to be their #1 WR whenever he can play.

That being said, I don't know what this "expectation" is based on, and I seriously doubt that the Browns have any secret information about what the outcome of Gordon's appeal is. They do, however, need to prepare for all scenarios (gets off completely, suspended for less than a full year, suspended for the entire year). Playing him with the 1's covers 2 of those scenarios, as does allowing him to rest a minor injury.

I think anyone trying to read into where/when he practices as some sign of what the resolution of this case will be is grasping at straws (and probably doing so based on his/her per-conceived belief of how it will end).

The original story had "the Browns are hoping for" and that later got picked up and changed to "the Browns are expecting" an 8 game suspension.

 

[Bayhawks]

I've read a number of places that the Browns "expect" an 8 game ban. If they truly believe this (and it's not more of the questionable reporting that has surrounded this story), it makes perfect sense for them to give him PT with the 1's, since he is clearly going to be their #1 WR whenever he can play.

That being said, I don't know what this "expectation" is based on, and I seriously doubt that the Browns have any secret information about what the outcome of Gordon's appeal is. They do, however, need to prepare for all scenarios (gets off completely, suspended for less than a full year, suspended for the entire year). Playing him with the 1's covers 2 of those scenarios, as does allowing him to rest a minor injury.

I think anyone trying to read into where/when he practices as some sign of what the resolution of this case will be is grasping at straws (and probably doing so based on his/her per-conceived belief of how it will end).

The original story had "the Browns are hoping for" and that later got picked up and changed to "the Browns are expecting" an 8 game suspension.

My point remains the same. If the Browns hope Gordon will play 8 games, he should be practicing with the starters; that doesn't mean Cle knows the outcome of this appeal.

 

[socrates]

It is my understanding that Gordon's appeal was argued in front of Arbitrator, Harold Henderson, who is limited to either upholding an indefinite suspension (1 year) or overruling the suspension based upon the NFL's drug testing policies and procedures. There appears to be no middle ground for the Arbitrator.

Given the elapsed time since the hearing, it seems the Arbitrator is giving Gordon's arguments due consideration.

Based upon the limited information which has been made available through the media, however, I am doubtful the Arbitrator determines that the NFL policy is flawed such that Gordon's suspension should be overruled.

The more time that elapses without any hint of negotiations between Gordon and Commissioner Goodell, the more likely it seems the two sides, or either of them, are content to leave this matter in the hands of the Arbitrator, and, hence, a likely year-long suspension.

 

[Sabertooth]

So nothing yet?