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WR Julio Jones, Retired (1 Viewer)

ESPN's Jeremy Fowler reports Julio Jones wants to play for a "big-armed quarterback who can deliver the deep ball."

Per Fowler, Jones wants to "outrun DBs and get underneath the ball." That would certainly be a feather in the Seahawks' cap. Less so for Tennessee. No one could grant that wish easier than Kansas City, but the Chiefs' complicated cap situation makes it a stretch. Julio certainly still has the physical ability to blow by most corners on the outside. It is a matter of when, not if, Jones is dealt this summer. 

SOURCE: Jeremy Fowler on Twitter 

Jun 5, 2021, 3:59 PM ET
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I wonder if he will play pattycake with defenders at the line the way @Brialways said Davis used to have a problem with. JK I expect him to dominate. Probably not enough to have him on my redraft teams, and I'm bumping Brown down. But give a boost to efficiency numbers for Henry, which is scary, and you have to bump Tannehill.

 
Said to be for a second and a fifth or a second and pick swaps instead. Not finalized but expected to be worked out in a day or two per Schefter. 

 
Just so people know what's going on

Ian Rapoport @RapSheet  39m

Sources: The #Falcons are trading All-Pro WR Julio Jones to the #Titans in exchange for at least a 2nd round pick. A blockbuster for Tennessee, who now gets the coveted big-play threat. And Atlanta ends up with very nice value.

Ian Rapoport @RapSheet  2m

The #Titans deal for Julio Jones:

— The #Falcons get a 2022 2nd rounder and a 2023 4th rounder.

— The #Titans get Julio Jones & a 6th rounder in 2023.

— The #Titans take on Jones’ salary of $15.3M in 2021 and the rest of the deal.

— #Falcons have $7.75M in dead money this year.
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NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports the Falcons are trading Julio Jones and a 2023 sixth-round pick to the Titans for a 2022 second-round pick and a 2023 third-round pick.

There are still moving parts, but the Falcons will get Tennessee's second-round pick next year as the centerpiece of the deal. The Titans don’t have the cap space to take on Jones’s full $15.3 million salary, so the Titans will have to restructure before it's finalized. Jones gives the Titans an All-Pro to pair with A.J. Brown and should open up an offense that averaged the third-fewest passing plays per game last season. Ryan Tannehill's deep accuracy doesn't fit with Jones, and Brown's presence won't offer much of an upgrade for Jones in terms of targets, but Jones should have no trouble topping his 51/771/3 line from 2020 if he stays healthy.
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foxco said:
Wow, Titans with two studs. Wonder if they open the offense up more with Julio.
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Not sure they’d want to unless their defense forces them into shootouts. If anything, it probably opens up more space for Henry, although it’s not like Corey Davis was some scrub.

 
zamboni said:
Not sure they’d want to unless their defense forces them into shootouts. If anything, it probably opens up more space for Henry, although it’s not like Corey Davis was some scrub.
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Compared to Julio? He kinda is. 

They also lost jonnu, so I really don't know how much more open the offense will be, and Julio isn't in his prime but he's still darn good. 

 
-OZ- said:
Compared to Julio? He kinda is. 

They also lost jonnu, so I really don't know how much more open the offense will be, and Julio isn't in his prime but he's still darn good. 
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No question Julio even at this stage is much better than Davis. Just guessing after Brown gets fed that Julio will get about 6-8 targets a game on average. Not bad but not too different from lots of other WRs out there.

 
Bri said:
Tannehill restructure would cover it and they seem to love him so they'll have no qualms about a restructure/extension type deal.

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Julio isn't an elite blocker. Neither is Reynolds. Going on the possibly foolish assumption that it's the same offense, this would hurt AJs numbers as he'd have to do Corey's role.

For FF it's lesser but it's so important to get Henry freed up that it's essential.

I'm not saying AJ will be bad for FF but for those of us hoping he rises to best of the best level- that won't happen in Corey's role. I'd lean more towards a repeat of 2020
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Thoughts now? 

I just drafted Dez this morning, I guess I won't be getting much from him this year. 

Is Reynolds in the slot? Maybe Dez pushes him for time. 

We could see a fair amount of 4 wide, no TE, but if none of the receivers block well, that's a problem.

 
zamboni said:
No question Julio even at this stage is much better than Davis. Just guessing after Brown gets fed that Julio will get about 6-8 targets a game on average. Not bad but not too different from lots of other WRs out there.
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Jones averaged basically one more catch for 15 more yards a game than Davis. But he played on a team that threw the ball almost 10 more times a game than the Titans did. Depends if you think Davis is improving, Jones is slipping, or if Jones is still going to be the guy from 5 years ago. But it’s not crazy to think that the Titans are replacing Davis with Jones and the numbers might not be all that different. 

 
Anarchy99 said:
Jones averaged basically one more catch for 15 more yards a game than Davis. But he played on a team that threw the ball almost 10 more times a game than the Titans did. Depends if you think Davis is improving, Jones is slipping, or if Jones is still going to be the guy from 5 years ago. But it’s not crazy to think that the Titans are replacing Davis with Jones and the numbers might not be all that different. 
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For stats, I think you may be right. 

His value is going to be more in the clubhouse, practice field, he'll mentor AJ (he probably doesn't need much but some will help), etc. 

The move is about off the field more than on it, IMO.

 
barackdhouse said:
I wonder if he will play pattycake with defenders at the line the way @Brialways said Davis used to have a problem with. JK I expect him to dominate. Probably not enough to have him on my redraft teams, and I'm bumping Brown down. But give a boost to efficiency numbers for Henry, which is scary, and you have to bump Tannehill.
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No offense but that’s zero sum thinking. Brown is a stud and having Julio only helps. IMO. 92 targets departed (Corey) + 35 (Humphries) + 65 (Smith) - some gonna go to Josh R & Firsker but still plenty to go around.

What a fantastic trade for the Titans, going for it when they have so many pieces in place already. Great landing spot for Jones in terms of getting a ring, he’s got nothing to add to his legacy stats/$$ wise.

 
BobbyLayne said:
No offense but that’s zero sum thinking. Brown is a stud and having Julio only helps. IMO. 92 targets departed (Corey) + 35 (Humphries) + 65 (Smith) - some gonna go to Josh R & Firsker but still plenty to go around.

What a fantastic trade for the Titans, going for it when they have so many pieces in place already. Great landing spot for Jones in terms of getting a ring, he’s got nothing to add to his legacy stats/$$ wise.
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I think it's a great trade for them but AJ Brown was at the moon yesterday and now he needs to just be in outer Earth orbit. Which is still a bonafide stud. I agree with what you're saying but not sure how it is zero sum thinking when I've already projected them to pass more. Not sure if I said that here or in a different thread but there is no world in which I'm not bumping Brown down just a little bit. To a really solid place still. I also think the efficiency of his targets goes up as it does for the whole offense.

 
barackdhouse said:
I think we have to assume at least a small to moderate increase in passing. I would bank on small but enough to matter a little bit. But generally speaking the offense as a whole has to be bumped up as a result of this. Henry should be expected to have higher efficiency numbers. He has always had ridiculous TD floors, his TDs are less fluky than any RB and he has a massive TD ceiling. With 17 games they are going to want to keep him fresh but I think there is at least a little bit of a chance the Titans and Henry want to break Dickerson's record. I don't think it is going to happen but there is a chance they go for it. 

I think it is fair to expect less touches for him but I think it's fair to back off some ceiling numbers for Brown as well. 
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This is what I posted in the Henry thread. 

 
barackdhouse said:
I think it's a great trade for them but AJ Brown was at the moon yesterday and now he needs to just be in outer Earth orbit. Which is still a bonafide stud. I agree with what you're saying but not sure how it is zero sum thinking when I've already projected them to pass more. Not sure if I said that here or in a different thread but there is no world in which I'm not bumping Brown down just a little bit. To a really solid place still. I also think the efficiency of his targets goes up as it does for the whole offense.
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Fair enough. I’d put these five in Tier 1 based solely for on being target hogs: Adams (w/ caveat AR is back), Hill, Diggs, Hopkins and *newcomer* Ridley. Next Tier is DK, Jefferson, AJ Brown. Tier 3 McLaurin-Thomas-Cooper-Allen.

(Redraft, full PPR, opinions vary, et al)

 
barackdhouse said:
I wonder if he will play pattycake with defenders at the line the way @Brialways said Davis used to have a problem with. JK I expect him to dominate. Probably not enough to have him on my redraft teams, and I'm bumping Brown down. But give a boost to efficiency numbers for Henry, which is scary, and you have to bump Tannehill.
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Henry was gonna be pressed to repeat 2k even if they kept the roster intact. I'm worried without Corey and Jonnu blocking for him outside- they were really exceptional. 

Julio can block fine but he's not awesome at it and why risk injury with him. I'm curious how they switch to 3WR from 3TE offense. It sounds silly to say sit Julio occasionally on first and second but also to have him in. It's Henry's team and not changing- many quotes to this recently.

I need to see what they're up to but my guess is Reynolds at 2nd WR if there is one on clear rushing downs and one of the rookie TEs in Jonnu's role.

Arthur Smith was fantastic at making the D guess what he was gonna call. I don't think Downing can pull that off or that they have the roster for it. I think it'll be more like this is our rushing set and this is our passing set...more traditional.

 
-OZ- said:
Thoughts now? 

I just drafted Dez this morning, I guess I won't be getting much from him this year. 

Is Reynolds in the slot? Maybe Dez pushes him for time. 

We could see a fair amount of 4 wide, no TE, but if none of the receivers block well, that's a problem.
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I think they trade a WR for a 6 or 7th. They have real good role players in their roles and now the rookies seem like umm why'd they draft them? 

Reynolds is bulked up and totally jumping in to the Titans way.

Still I feel like there's an extra WR.

Batson is fine to replace Humphries' 20? catches and few key ones. 

Suppose one of the key rookie TEs can't replace Jonnu (and I know they looked like the might both be players in otas) then I'm liking Reynolds blocking from the slot and even that Firkser could fill that slot role too.

Word is they really expected Pruitt to take a low-ball offer and are out of sorts with him signing with SF and it really seems like that's certainly true.

What they need to do is sign a TE that can block inline and get out fast n block and also catch the occasional pass. Then they can let everyone battle in camp and stuff just work itself out. I don't think Richard Rodgers is that guy but I hope they give him a try.

The 4 WR set is intriguing but where's Henry? Doesn't Tannehill need someone to protect him? The Titans entire history is being burned by being too cute so I could totally see this and then Tannehill gets hurt, but geesh I hope not

 
Fantasy Football: Impact of Falcons trading Julio Jones to Titans

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JULIO JONES STILL BALLING?

Jones' days with Falcons are over, but his days of being a fantasy monster are not. The narrative that Jones is “washed” is flat-out false. Last season he finished fourth in yards per route run (2.60), and in the seven games he played with at least a 75% snap share (all of his healthy games), he averaged 19 fantasy points, 16.5 expected fantasy points and 100 receiving yards per game.

The ambiguity of his role in the Titans’ offense will see Jones fall in the drafts, making him an unreal value. His ability to elevate an entire offense's efficiency won’t just make him a strong fantasy asset but rather increase the output of others around him.
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Hartitz: 9 Fantasy Football Takeaways from the Falcons Trading Julio Jones to the Titans

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4. JULIO STAYS STEADY AS A BORDERLINE WR1

I haven’t adjusted my ranking on Jones as my WR14, ahead of the likes of Diontae Johnson, Allen Robinson, the Buccaneers/Rams WRs and more. Only the Lions and Jaguars had more available targets than the Titans entering the offseason; I’m still fully expecting Julio to eat, even if the days of him seeing 150-plus targets are likely over.

It’d be easier to project Jones, who turned 32 in February, as a lower-end WR2 if we could have more confidence in this defense not sucking again. Ultimately, the Titans joined the Raiders as the top two most sensitive teams in terms of difference in points per game rank and points per game allowed rank.

Expect Tennessee to need to keep their foot on the gas in order to keep up in the scoring department in 2021, and there’s no reason to believe high-efficiency talents like Jones and AJB won’t be able to make the most out of their collective abilities.

Again: Julio remains one of the best WRs alive.

https://twitter.com/ihartitz/status/1325612638945095681?s=21
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Faust said:
"The narrative that Jones is 'washed' is 'flat-out false'"

"seven games he played"
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one of these wants a word with the other, Mr. Erickson. The whole point of Julio being "washed" isn't performance; it's suiting up to play.

Sometimes these writers can't help themselves. Oh, and any time you see the word 'narrative'? Run for the hills because you're about to get a contrarian take on received wisdom.

 
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there's still meat on the bone here, he's going to have some very productive games in 2021, but I wouldn't hold my breath that he's going over 1000 yards or playing 17 games. if you get 10 games out of him you're thrilled.

his 2020 stats are eye-popping in some regards.

by far the highest catch % of his career - 75%, yards/tgt was the highest of his career , 11.3

but he's clearly on the back 9 of his career

 
Tanner9919 said:
there's still meat on the bone here, he's going to have some very productive games in 2021, but I wouldn't hold my breath that he's going over 1000 yards or playing 17 games. if you get 10 games out of him you're thrilled.

his 2020 stats are eye-popping in some regards.

by far the highest catch % of his career - 75%, yards/tgt was the highest of his career , 11.3

but he's clearly on the back 9 of his career
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I don't think the Titans or any fantasy owners will be "thrilled" if he misses over 40% of the season.
 

 
Grahamburn said:
I get that, but then why not trade Matt Ryan too?  He can't be happy with this trade.  If you're going to blow it all up you might as well go all in.
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Because, like it or not, Jones is a declining asset. Ryan still has several usable years remaining.

Trading Jones isn't "blowing it up".

 
Grahamburn said:
I don't understand why the Falcons would draft Pitts and then trade Jones. 
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If they're wrong about Justin Fields then heads will probably roll. If they're right about him then they added an all pro talent for the twilight years of Matt Ryan and whoever replaces him in the next couple-few years.

 
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