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WR Kadarius Toney (2 Viewers)
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Not gonna lie. You had me in the 1st half
Gruden's Keyboard
Footballguy
Drafting with confidence.
TheWinz
Footballguy
105 WR's last year had over 20 receptions. Kadarius (27 for 169 = 6.3) managed to be nearly 2 full yards lower per catch than the next worst WR (Allen Robinson 34 for 280 = 8.2).
I was about to post the horrendous stat above when I decided to go back a litter further. After nearly an hour, I made it all the way back to the year 2000, and he still leads the pack. Out of the 2410 times a WR has had over 20 catches since 2000, no other WR has a lower yards per reception.
Curiosity has gotten the best of me, and now I'm on a mission...
Just finished with the 1990's. Add on another 837 occurrences of WR's over 20 catches. Kadarius still head and shoulders below the rest. Moving on...
Done with the 1980's, and it's not looking good. Why? As we go further back, he's having a hard time keeping up with RB's, TE's, and even fat FB's, let alone WR's. Tack on another 662.
With the season now just 14 games, the # of times a WR reaches 20+ catches is dropping, but their Y/R is not. None of 470 times in the 1970's are anywhere close to his dismal 6.3 Y/R.
The 1960's gets very confusing, as there are many players with multiple position designations (like today's Cordarrelle Patterson or Taysom Hill). For this reason, I will say WR is any player who is listed as WR (wide receiver), FL (flanker), LE (left end), RE (right end), or SE (split end). Also, the season has shrunk to 12 games, and it's not really a passing league back then. Heck, only 4 players even reached 50 receptions in 1960. Still, 288 times a receiver tops 20 catches, and still, every time, their Y/R towers over Toney.
This scrub has wasted 2 hours of my time, and I'm calling it now - Kadarius Toney's 6.3 yards per reception as a WR is officially the least productive season ever by a WR over 20 catches.
I was about to post the horrendous stat above when I decided to go back a litter further. After nearly an hour, I made it all the way back to the year 2000, and he still leads the pack. Out of the 2410 times a WR has had over 20 catches since 2000, no other WR has a lower yards per reception.
Curiosity has gotten the best of me, and now I'm on a mission...
Just finished with the 1990's. Add on another 837 occurrences of WR's over 20 catches. Kadarius still head and shoulders below the rest. Moving on...
Done with the 1980's, and it's not looking good. Why? As we go further back, he's having a hard time keeping up with RB's, TE's, and even fat FB's, let alone WR's. Tack on another 662.
With the season now just 14 games, the # of times a WR reaches 20+ catches is dropping, but their Y/R is not. None of 470 times in the 1970's are anywhere close to his dismal 6.3 Y/R.
The 1960's gets very confusing, as there are many players with multiple position designations (like today's Cordarrelle Patterson or Taysom Hill). For this reason, I will say WR is any player who is listed as WR (wide receiver), FL (flanker), LE (left end), RE (right end), or SE (split end). Also, the season has shrunk to 12 games, and it's not really a passing league back then. Heck, only 4 players even reached 50 receptions in 1960. Still, 288 times a receiver tops 20 catches, and still, every time, their Y/R towers over Toney.
This scrub has wasted 2 hours of my time, and I'm calling it now - Kadarius Toney's 6.3 yards per reception as a WR is officially the least productive season ever by a WR over 20 catches.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Stolen wages from 2 teams and now 2hrs from a FBG member.
This guy is a hardened criminal.
Gruden's Keyboard
Footballguy
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Regression to the mean.
And Larry Centers was not fat!
And Larry Centers was not fat!
The Future Champs
Footballguy
Love and Respect for this post, gb.
This is an all time hater post. Deserved and I love it.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
so basically hes a million dollar talent with a 10 cent head. he needs simple plays or he mucks it upx.com
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I feel bad about my post above. It did a disservice to ham sandwiches.so basically hes a million dollar talent with a 10 cent head. he needs simple plays or he mucks it upx.com
I should have said “potato”.
I don't think that is what he meant. I think what the coach meant is that he tries to do too much every time and it gets him in trouble. Instead he just needs to take what's there much of the time and not try and break everything all the time. Take what the play gives you......not that they have to make the plays simpler for him.so basically hes a million dollar talent with a 10 cent head. he needs simple plays or he mucks it upx.com
I think there was a play last season where he lined up behind the line. The ref tried to correct him because he was too far back. He gave the ref the sign that he is supposed to be offline. Once the ball is snapped ref quickly throws the flag for illegal formation. Hilarious.
I just don't think he cares.
I just don't think he cares.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Basically cost them the game, IIRC. Took a TD off the board.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
After reading Soulfly's post I was thinking Josh Gordon. That prompted me to do some digging and @TheWinz just had his bar to high....
I present to you Josh Gordon of the 2021 Chiefs....
12 games, 7 starts: 14 targets with 5 receptions (35.7%) for a whooping 32 yards or 6.4 yards per reception. Basically Toney is a more efficient Josh Gordon.
TheWinz
Footballguy
You know what Gordon and Toney have in common? Patrick Mahomes! Perhaps he ain't as good as everyone thinks?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I just dropped Mahomes in my 16 team dynasty based on your assessment. What a bum.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
#1 Josh Gordon had more yds his rookie year than Toney has in his 4yr career.
#2 Respect a SB champion
#3 close your lips (fingertips) or ill fight you!!!!
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
A love that burns with the intensity of 10000 suns. Haven’t seen anything like it since Romeo & Juliette.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
#1 We weren't talking rookie years or career stats, we were talking worst single season by a WR. Gordon wins that hands down/
#2 Ironically Toney has two rings, Josh has zero https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/josh-gordon-sells-super-bowl-liii-ring-for-138k-at-auction/
#3 Settle down. Maybe go smoke a bowl with Josh and watch some Toney drop highlights.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Of course he sold it, the only ring that matters to him is the ring to my heart.
And if it takes a man with 2 decades of serious drug addiction and mental health issues, who fought to be reinstated each season to outdo you, who's the real loser?
BassNBrew
Footballguy
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Both of them.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Over 2K posts in here for this guy.
RC94
Footballguy
He provides never ending fodder for jokes.
He may be the easiest player in the league to rip on but to be fair it's possible the Chiefs would not have won the SB without his contributions in 2022, was not an empty just along for the ride ring that season.
titusbramble
Footballguy
Dropped today in my dynasty league. Did I miss something, or is that just where his value is right now?
socrates
Footballguy
That took a long time. Probably should have been dropped long ago.
joey
Footballguy
+1.
I dropped him in both leagues I rostered him at the end of last season. Roster clogger.
I would’ve dropped him well before now and not thought twice.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Dejavux.com
That said, with Worthy’s hamstring keeping him out an extended period, plus Rice’s potential suspension, the door is cracked a little for relevance.
I’d be afraid to invest too much.
foxco
Footballguy
I'd be terrified
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Do Frozen references really hit hard on a FF forum?
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Could be something but could also be coachspeak training camp blather.
If you wanna take him in the last round or with your last auction dollar, go ahead. But don’t spend any more than that. Especially since Rice probably won’t be suspended until the legal process plays out, which will probably be very late this year or next year.
If you wanna take him in the last round or with your last auction dollar, go ahead. But don’t spend any more than that. Especially since Rice probably won’t be suspended until the legal process plays out, which will probably be very late this year or next year.
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
I mean he has some skills that are above average compared to across the league....and can make some plays....he is more than a jag with the ball in his hands....if any team can get creative and try to find a way to put him in a position to succeed, it's probably KC.....at this point he is probably injury despeartion WR play on KC and probbaly best suited for special teams.....I know KC brought in the rugby player with ideas about the new kickoff stuff....haven't really seen how that particular play will shake out moving forward, but I guess maybe the rugby and guy and KT back there might give teams something to think about....and he could probably be a decent punt returner....(if he can actually catch and then hang on to the ball)...now is all that worth an NFL roster spot....IDK....I think we all know his fantasy days are gone, but his actual football days may still have some value.....
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
that play took the miraculous Kelce lateral TD off the board and yeah probably cost them the game....and he also let a perfect pass go through his hands and into the hands of a DET CB who took it for a pick 6 that cost them the first game of the year against DET....he is directly linked to two of KC's losses last year...
Must be my granddaughters influence seeping in.Do Frozen references really hit hard on a FF forum?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
His best attribute is convincing teams he’s worth rostering.
RC94
Footballguy
Year 5 will be different?
massraider
Footballguy
This is why Reid is Hall of Fame.
he can't catch the ball? **** it, let's hand it to him
he can't catch the ball? **** it, let's hand it to him
