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WR Keenan Allen, LAC (7 Viewers)
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Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
I never thought i would ask, but... droppable?
its getting close to that point, but I'd hold for a little while longer. but it is getting to a point where you can only have a dead spot on your roster for so long. I get that. and if you are on the cusp of making the playoff, you may not be in a position to hold.
if that is the case for you......its a tough call.....
well, it was obvious from day one that they have too many mouths to feed there. Caleb isnt at a point where he can support 3 top WR and a top TE.
and Odunze is the future. he was drafted to grow up with Caleb. Likely once Odunze is more of a proven commodity Keenan Allen is a lot more likely to go on the block.
I do think if Allen gets healthy he can be productive, but that has always been his issue. dude cant stay healthy enough. if feels like for every year hes healthy there are 2 where he isnt. Hes now at an age where the health thing becomes more important because you just dont recover from injury the same at the age 29 or 30 as compared to the age 25
Tau837
Footballguy
According to PFF, he has 2 drops on 38 targets. Not sure that qualifies as "a lot".
That would need to happen by tomorrow.
I was thinking it would happen in the offseason. but I'm sure if they got an offer, they'd entertain it.
He won't be under contract any longer is what I was alluding to.
Max Power
Footballguy
That seems too low. He had two just this weekend, although I think one was waived off because he committed OPI.
Tau837
Footballguy
Per PFF, he has caught 5 of 8 contested catches. Maybe you are thinking of those 3 contested catches he did not catch... but those are not drops.
ETA: PFR has him with 1 drop on 42 targets.
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Max Power
Footballguy
I'll admit I may have overstated that he is dropping a lot. He for sure dropped what would have been Caleb's first TD pass week 1. And had two passes bounce off him this weekend. There have been multiple times this season he didn't come down with a ball that Elite WRs should. As a Bears fan, I'd love for him to bounce back to elite status, but he's an aging possession receiver that the team is having trouble getting going.
Thats not to put it all on Allen either. QB play has been up and down and the OC is pretty horrible.
zamboni
Footballguy
Allen is a decent safety valve, but indeed aging. Odunze is starting to produce and maybe figuring things out - wouldn't surprise me to see Caleb start to target Rome more at the expense of Keenan.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Call it a hunch, but I feel like Allen has a big game Sunday.
(Rotowire) Allen didn't practice Wednesday due to an ankle injury. Analysis: Allen was among three key Bears skill-position players -- also, fellow WR DJ Moore (quadriceps) and RB D'Andre Swift (quadriceps) -- that didn't log any work to begin Week 14 prep. Allen rolled his ankle during a Nov. 22 practice, so his absence Wednesday may be maintenance related. Still, his status will be monitored as the week goes on to determine whether his availability for Sunday's game at San Francisco may be in question.
Yogibear
Footballguy
Here's an idea: How come no one has talked about him signing with KC? I mean, with Rashee Rice about to be suspended, Keenan Allen would make a great replacement. He would be playing the same role for the Chiefs that DeAndre Hopkins did for them last year. Besides, he knows the AFC West better than anyone. Does anybody see the connection of Mahomes-to-Allen happening anytime this season?
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
its an age/money thing. there's probably 12 teams that would hire Allen if the money suited them.
Yogibear
Footballguy
Then aren't the Chiefs one of those teams that have the cap space to sign him?
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
Allen, at this age, is counter to the scheme that Ben Johnson wants. He's collected a group of fast WRs. Allen would just get in the way and be an unnecessary safety blanket for Caleb.
Tau837
Footballguy
I agree he would improve the Chargers WR group, and I agree that he could co-exist just fine with McConkey. Both of them can excel at Z as well as in the slot.
The real issue for the Chargers is they signed Williams to play X, and Allen isn't well suited for that role at this stage of his career. If they sign Allen, Johnston probably gets pushed back to X instead of moving to Z this season. His skill set is much better suited to Z.
Right now, the Chargers 3 WR set on third downs is generally going to be X Harris, Z Johnston, slot McConkey. IMO substituting Allen for Johnston would be an upgrade.
It would also be great if such a reunion led to Allen finishing his career with the Chargers, since he spent so much of his career with the team.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
I dunno man. Allen lined up a bunch at the Z with Chicago and was painfully slow, to the point that he drug out the plays longer than necessary at times.
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I honestly wonder if McConkey could see some X snaps if Harris isn't ready to go, at least in 2-wide sets. But a X-McConkey, Z-Johnston, Slot-Allen setup feels like an upgrade to me, as does a X-Johnston, Z-McConkey, Slot-Allen setup, even if it may not be playing everyone to their best spot.
I'm just really not a Harris guy (at least in 2025) especially given how late he signed given the offense he's coming from. I feel like he's ideally the #4 this year, but there currently isn't really another option. If forced to be relied upon early, I think his rookie year might not be too different than Johnston's.
Would love to see Allen finish his career as a Charger. His one of my favorites of the last 20 years, and even as a Bears fan, it felt wrong last year.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I hope he's done. I'd rather see the player he would replace. Out with the old, in with the new.
aren't you one of our most experienced (nicely indicating old) posters here?
Biabreakable
Footballguy
I have no questions about Allen's hands and ability to get open. Even if he's lost a lot of speed/quickness as you say.
But the HC may want other players running those routes. They need to grow and develop. Allen isn't the future of this team.
I think Allen has plenty of suitors for his services. Maybe that's in a more limited role now but I think he's still reliable.
Patriots could use him.
socrates
Footballguy
Bah. Keenan Allen isn't that old. He is younger than Tet McMillan and Malik Nabers combined!
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Yes, put me out to pasture as well, I’m ready.
The 2 teams that make the most sense to me are the Chargers and the Steelers. 2 teams that think they are contenders, that also have a lot of question marks beyond their #1 WR. Chargers make more sense given rapport with Herbert.
Allen probably played the worst football of his career last season, coinciding with arguably the worst QB play he's seen (not a knock on Caleb, but Allen has had Rivers/Herbert) but I think he's still capable of being a useful starter.
Allen probably played the worst football of his career last season, coinciding with arguably the worst QB play he's seen (not a knock on Caleb, but Allen has had Rivers/Herbert) but I think he's still capable of being a useful starter.
efactor
Footballguy
Kind of surprised they didn't sign him instead of Diggs. Only about a year and a half older and not coming off an ACL injury. No history (that I know of anyway) of drama. Diggs seems a short term answer in NE anyway.
I still think he ends up back with the Chargers. Need another safe option outside of Ladd until Harris or Big Quint develop.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Dez
Footballguy
I wanted to do 150 this year but I was slacking off in May and June. Next year the goal is to max the BBM and do 150.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Lansdowne
Footballguy
I understand this is cherry picking a bit here, but Allen looked really good for a stretch late in the year. For a 5 game stretch in Weeks 12-16, he had:
15 tgt, 9 rec, 86 yd, 1 TD
8 tgt, 5 rec, 73 yd, 2 TD
5 tgt, 3 rec, 30 yd, 0 TD
13 tgt, 6 rec, 82 yd, 1 TD
13 tgt, 9 rec, 141 yd, 1 TD
Total: 54 tgt, 32 rec, 412 yd, 5 TD
That’s a 17-game pace of 184 tgt, 109 rec, 1401 yd, and 17 TD! All while competing for targets with DJ Moore and Rome Odunze fully healthy, with a rookie QB getting killed behind a porous offensive line and an interim coach. Obviously that pace was not sustainable, but it showed that he still has something left in the tank, and was pretty close to how he looked his last time in a Chargers uniform in 2023 before his season ending injury. Ladd is still the man, but I think Allen’s chemistry with Herbert shouldn’t be overlooked. He offers more fantasy potential at WR2 behind Ladd than I think anyone else in that offense does.
15 tgt, 9 rec, 86 yd, 1 TD
8 tgt, 5 rec, 73 yd, 2 TD
5 tgt, 3 rec, 30 yd, 0 TD
13 tgt, 6 rec, 82 yd, 1 TD
13 tgt, 9 rec, 141 yd, 1 TD
Total: 54 tgt, 32 rec, 412 yd, 5 TD
That’s a 17-game pace of 184 tgt, 109 rec, 1401 yd, and 17 TD! All while competing for targets with DJ Moore and Rome Odunze fully healthy, with a rookie QB getting killed behind a porous offensive line and an interim coach. Obviously that pace was not sustainable, but it showed that he still has something left in the tank, and was pretty close to how he looked his last time in a Chargers uniform in 2023 before his season ending injury. Ladd is still the man, but I think Allen’s chemistry with Herbert shouldn’t be overlooked. He offers more fantasy potential at WR2 behind Ladd than I think anyone else in that offense does.
I don't know if Keenan Allen will be valuable in fantasy, but as someone who has been driving the McConkey bandwagon since Georgia, this is terrible news for Ladd. I think it knocks McConkey down from low-end WR1 to middling WR2, especially as the Chargers WANT to be a run 1st team and took several steps toward doing that in the offseason.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
They would have to be blind drunk to decrease Ladd’s role in the offense to accommodate Allen at this stage.
Its not about accommodating Allen, its about a run heavy team that only had 1 reliable target, now has 2, and Allen's rapport with Herbert is arguably bigger than it is with Ladd. I'm not by any means saying Allen outproduces McConkey, or even that Allen will be a useful fantasy option, just that McConkey had a clear path to potentially 150+ targets, and I don't think he has that now, unless the Chargers end up being a lot more pass happy than they want to be.
rockaction
Footballguy
Allen’s so done that he will last maybe half a year. This signing both makes sense and will hinder their development greatly.
They’re worse off because of it.
This guy is so slow off of the line now that he looked like he was in cement last year.
Maybe he was hurt when I watched. Dunno. I’m awfully hesitant to criticize guys, but this is questionable.
I roster McConkey in one league and somebody else was gonna get theirs. Still more worried about a McConkey injury.
eta* really not trying to be negative. I’ll have to revise that. They’re not going to release him and he won’t retire, either, so I doubt he’s anything but there for the year and I hope he does well. Herbert is on my roster in one of my two dynasty leagues, and will open up the field for McConkey if healthy and fast enough.
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BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
maybe he wants to retire as a charger?
rockaction
Footballguy
8.52 million dollars isn’t a retirement ceremony thing. He playin’. And he’s probably better than I just gave him credit for. I don’t know. I saw him last year quite a bit and one of the Bears fans here who knows ball said he was so slow off the line he threw the timing off on crossing routes.
If that’s true, that’s a disaster. I’m really not worried about McConkey and am very neutral about guys on my teams when I write about players.
