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WR Malik Nabers, NYG (4 Viewers)
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zamboni
Footballguy
Probably means he’ll be fed even more empty targets next week.
In any event, I’m just glad he made it through the game healthy (or so it seems right now).
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Once Andrew Thomas is healthy and back in the lineup, I suspect we will see Dart.
rockaction
Footballguy
Some guy on X pointed out that Thomas's injury is to the same one he's already had Lisfranc surgery on. Oh no.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
OBJ all over again
Yes, Odell was totally cooked at the ripe old age of... :checks notes: 25 years old.
with a Lisfranc injury bad enough for surgery, Thomas career was in trouble. Lisfranc is a horrible injury. worse for RB than for O line guys but still career threatening. This could be trouble.
there are so many ligaments and tendons the centre on the Lisfranc area its tough to fix problems with a surgery. too many moving parts and very easy to muck up one area when you fix another.
Lets hope hes ok. this is worrisome.
rockaction
Footballguy
You know what? Never cite randos on Twitter. He's still recovering from his Lisfranc surgery from Oct. 2024. He's just not back yet.
Malik Nabers has 123 career catches, the most by any player in his first 17 NFL games, per @Stathead
Impressed!
Malik Nabers has 123 career catches, the most by any player in his first 17 NFL games, per @Stathead
The Frankman
Footballguy
Gjallarhorn
Footballguy
So he is 2nd in team history and 4th amongst LSU alumni...
Malik Nabers has 123 career catches, the most by any player in his first 17 NFL games, per @Stathead
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I really hate myself right now for not taking him when I had the chance. Cost me a win in week 2 and could be the difference in my team being a contender and a dud.
Which RB is beating Nabers’ numbers? Are you desperate for a RB?
H8fulHuck
Footballguy
Redraft league
Javonte Williams
Tyrone Tracy
Charbonnet
Pacheco
Bench receivers easily outscore my RB2. Team is second overall scoring so team is ok without a change but tried shifting points to RB and promote bench WR to flex.
Figured I’d ask here about trade value after getting rejected trading Nabers for Taylor, Jacobs, Chase Brown, Henry or Bucky on RB heavy teams.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Depends on league settings of course it in the majority of cases I’d rather have Nabers than any of the RBs you listed. He’s going to be a beast this year.
rockaction
Footballguy
I liked Daboll and really don't like to see guys who generally seem okay (this might not be true in the least) get fired because of terrible quarterbacking, but this guy and Schoen are recklessly dumb. Like giving Saquon to the obnoxiousness that is the Philadelphia Eagles, who happen to be probably their biggest and most hated rivals. This tag team stinks. I'd like to see them stay the year, but what good are lame ducks?
They don't seem to have the the acuity to get this stuff up and running themselves. Seems like they needed the structure of Buffalo in place and then work from within that.
They don't seem to have the the acuity to get this stuff up and running themselves. Seems like they needed the structure of Buffalo in place and then work from within that.
zamboni
Footballguy
Ya think, Brian? Just lousy offensive scheming. I know the Chiefs have a very good secondary, but they weren’t exactly up against the 1985 Bears or 2000 Ravens.
footballpanda
Footballguy
Danny Dimes ballin out in Indy is the worst look possible. Danny Dimes going to get some people fired in NY this year.
The Future Champs
Footballguy
Danny Dimes ballin out in Indy AND Saquon ballin out in Philly is the worst look possible.
If you don't have a QB who can run your offense, then you need a new QB or a new offense. Giants/Daboll chose poorly.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Dizzy
Footballguy
Agreed. HC has to find ways to get Nabers into the game flow... jet sweep (or 2), motion, slot play, etc. This whole "run downfield as far as you can and Russ will throw it up for grabs" is not a plan... it's Tecmo Bowl.
Look at what the Bears did yesterday with DJ Moore... made the effort to get him involved early and often.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
DJ Moore had 5 targets and 4 catches for 21 yards. Would that make you happy as a Nabers owner?
rockaction
Footballguy
Guys, I do not think jet sweeps and WR screens are your answers. Just . . . hear me out. Of guys that carry the ball, you really hold your breath when huge TEs get hit by DLs. RB bodies are meant to withstand hits from maybe LBs and S and you hope your OL slows down their DL because that’s when RBs twist ankles and blow knees. Under that weight and force.
But these freaking modern rage coaches forget about basic height/weight **** and get cute. Next thing you know, DJ Chark’s career is kaput, CeeDee Lamb is now out with a high-ankle sprain, etc.
Let’s get Nabers open for real. Ten yards down the field where CBs are tackling him.
Let’s make sure the play design is good enough.
But these freaking modern rage coaches forget about basic height/weight **** and get cute. Next thing you know, DJ Chark’s career is kaput, CeeDee Lamb is now out with a high-ankle sprain, etc.
Let’s get Nabers open for real. Ten yards down the field where CBs are tackling him.
Let’s make sure the play design is good enough.
Dizzy
Footballguy
Add the 3 carries and the TD that he also had and... YES. Kinda buried the headline there in your statistical cherry-picking.
Point is, the Bears HC realizes the importance of getting everyone involved (something he carried over from DET, no doubt). It is arguable that DJ Moore is WR2 on CHI now, and they still made the effort to get him the ball.
NYG left Nabers - clearly their best weapon on offense - out of the game plan until they were out of the game.
honestly I think it all comes down to the O line.
Indy has a decent one. New Yorks has been a Train wreck most years.
never underestimate the power of good blocking. Even the best scheme falls apart if the big guys up front cant make their blocks.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
I didn’t look at the carries tbh. TDs are random — 5 targets for a WR and 21 yards receiving sucks.
No disagreement on Daboll sucking though
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Does he go up in rankings if Dart is QB1?
Dizzy
Footballguy
That is a complete unknown at this point.
The Future Champs
Footballguy
That is some highly speculative ****.
rockaction
Footballguy
Houston, Cincinnati, NY Giants. What on earth are these front offices doing?
I don’t care if the GM screwed up what he thought was a blue-chip prospect in Evan Neal. Don’t scout the jersey (NY) or the underdog story (NE under Belichick). Scout the player. And if they messed up, they haven’t fixed a thing just because they tried to address the issue. Do it again.
Basic stuff they should have learned and experienced by the time they were twenty-five or so (not being snowed by name brands and compelling Americana sentiments are difficult impulses to keep at bay). By then, there aren’t really excuses. Maybe thirty for some of us, but if you’re a GM before thirty your organization has other issues wayyy beyond the norm.
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King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Definitely would rather see Winston as a Nabers holder, hopefully Dart can extend plays will legs and find him for so,e big plays.
zamboni
Footballguy
The positive angle is that Nabers balled out last year catching passes from the “old” Daniel Jones in addition to Cutlets and Lock.
dkp993
Footballguy
My hope is that the young QB understands that his best path to success is though his elite talent at WR and thus ensures he peppers him with the appropriate targets.
rockaction
Footballguy
Just said almost exactly this in the Dart thread.
I think throwing him behind that leaky line they will ruin him as a prospect. but hey, this is the way the Giants roll.
I dont wish the kid any ill. I hope he does well. but I'd need to see him not just knock on the door. I'd need him to break the door down with authority before I'd consider putting him on the field behind this crappy line.
With Winston, Nabers might break single season records.
Deepster
Footballguy
I would also think Dart won't be able to go through many reads with the speed of the game at first and Nabers would be his 1st read a lot. And if he's covered, Dart checks down or runs.
The Frankman
Footballguy
The injury was reminiscent of the Victor Cruz torn patella tendon injury, Nabers was hurt before he jumped for the all. He was screaming in pain...
