Dropped the go ahead TD tonight. Tripped over his own legs trying to track another deep pass earlier in the game. Supposedly leads the league in drops on attempts over 30+ yards (6). Thank goodness he’s not due anymore guarantees next year. Chiefs will save $12MM when they inevitably cut him.
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WR Marquez Valdes-Scantling, PIT (1 Viewer)
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kutta
Footballguy
I’m not sure how Mahomes could have thrown that any better.
Dude has been know for drops his whole career. I know he’s a pro and all, but I feel kind of bad for him.
And I can’t stand the Chiefs.
efactor
Footballguy
This is why I don’t understand why the Chiefs don’t play who they consider their best 3 WRs instead of rolling out Scantling and Moore. Seems like giving them targets is a waste. Seems Rice is their best play maker. Perplexing.
Down Under
Footballguy
And they are still ignoring McKinnon. So much for the "after bye-week magic" from Andy Reid.
TwinTurbo
Footballguy
To be fair, he has been one of the biggest disappearing acts in the league despite playing with 2 future HoF QBs. He is another fast WR that can't catch. For some reason, teams never seem to be able to quit guys like this.
TampaMike19
Footballguy
Ironic the chiefs won a Super Bowl due to the 49ers doing something similar. An overthrow but still wide open sanders
JohnnyU
Footballguy
He grimaces a lot.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
It’s pretty bad when you make Willie Gault look like HOF’er
TwinTurbo
Footballguy
For most of the snaps played in the season, MVS is a highly paid decoy. I am convinced his primary role is to stretch the defense and not catch passes.
rockaction
Footballguy
Released today.
www.espn.com
Source: Chiefs cut Valdes-Scantling, save $12M
The Chiefs are releasing wide receiver Marquez Valdes-Scantling, a source told ESPN's Jeremy Fowler on Wednesday.
Wigglytuff's Gruff
Footballguy
A test case for the idea that a wide-receiver just needs the right situation to flourish. Couldn't have come into a better situation, deep threat WR with the leagues best QB and other worldly deep ball thrower. Does nothing.
zamboni
Footballguy
Given how successful and well-run of an organization it is, it's amazing how much they've failed at throwing a lot of money and premium draft picks at WRs: MVS, Toney, Skyy Moore, etc.Released today.
Source: Chiefs cut Valdes-Scantling, save $12M
The Chiefs are releasing wide receiver Marquez Valdes-Scantling, a source told ESPN's Jeremy Fowler on Wednesday.
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ChiefD
Footballguy
Yeah, but they also drafted Hill and turned him into 3 Super Bowl rings.
But they definitely need to do better at that position.
ChiefD
Footballguy
Amazingly, the Chiefs simply don't win the last two Super Bowls without him. Had an amazing AFCCG last year when literally everyone who could catch a ball got hurt.
And then this year, makes a handful of clutch catches to win games throughout the playoffs.
But yeah, he had the best situation and made some good money but never really flourished completely. And two Super Bowl rings to boot.
He couldn’t catch the ball in Green Bay with Aaron Rodgers, he wasn’t going to suddenly learn to catch in KC with Mahomes. Everyone said it was a bad signing at the time given the large $ and his hands. I desperately tried to trade him once he hit the jackpot on landing spots but everyone in my leagues knew he had the dropsies.
Ironically he directly cost them regular season games but managed to come up big when it counted in the playoffs as @ChiefD mentioned.
greenmountaingoat
Footballguy
I'm imagining myself trying to catch a football while in a phone booth. I don't think the phone booth is helping me.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Well, if two are in a phone book it should be easy to transfer the ball from one to the other
karl.Racki
Footballguy
Can't believe they released him after he won them the Super Bowl.
rockaction
Footballguy
His touchdown catch came from further out—I believe ten yards or greater. I think you're thinking of Hardman's catch at the end. But don't let that stop you, JohnnyU.
karl.Racki
Footballguy
????
JohnnyU
Footballguy
oops, my bad, that was Hardman.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I was thinking of Hardman.
greenmountaingoat
Footballguy
Better hands than Johnston
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
He’s played with an MVP QB 3x and is a 2-time SB champ. Deep threat with stone hands is just what the Bills needed.
Stylistically it makes sense bc they kind of don’t have anyone to play the X.
If he's higher than WR4 its coaching malpractice. Ideally, I think Curtis Samuel plays the X. He's got the most downfield ability and can challenge Safeties deep. Then use Coleman as a big slot, and Shakir as your Z. They could rotate all 3 between the slot, and really keep defenses off balance, though I don't know if Joe Brady will be that creative. He seemed to more "dumb down" the offense (which worked) last year.
Frankly speaking, I think MVS sucks. Like he's an actual bad WR, he's just been paired with Rodgers/Mahomes his entire career. Kinda feel like anyone who ran a 4.3 could have filled his role, even a UDFA. Its not just the stone hands, its also awful routes, and no physicality, which is really rough for a guy 6-4 210. If he can get his head screwed on straight (big if) I'm not sure MVS is better than Claypool, he's certainly nowhere near as talented.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Has there ever been more of a FF tease? He gets paired up with another big arm QB, and he’s going to get way overdrafted in redraft.
That said, there’s always a chance. Dynasty shareholders rejoice at the landing spot for sure,
That said, there’s always a chance. Dynasty shareholders rejoice at the landing spot for sure,
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Those oven mitts don’t help though.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Not advocating for MVS, just saying that they don't have an X on the roster. Samuel hasn't seen significant snaps outside since 2019 - last 2 years it's been 70%+ in the Slot and under 25% Wide.
Mack Hollins can play outside but he's about as exciting as trying to resurrect Chase Claypool.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
This won't help Allen's completion percentage if they actually use him.
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
Pfft... For half the season it's nice and toasty.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Ironically his monster AFC Championship game & SB TD probably put him on Buffalo’s radar.
Allen is gonna love going from Diggs to MVS.
Allen is gonna love going from Diggs to MVS.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Watch MVS catch a couple TD early in the season getting everyone to buy in, including Allen and Buffalo.
Then Chris Berman doinks and clunkers for the rest of it.
Then Chris Berman doinks and clunkers for the rest of it.
The Duff Man
Footballguy
I don’t know what Buffalo is thinking with this move. Throw a bunch of WR3s and 4s together and hope you find a WR2?
Gruden's Keyboard
Footballguy
You're right guys, this pro who has been a starting WR on the last two Super Bowl winning teams is so not good. You guys have had some good cracks, I wonder who do we trash next?
: pours the last of the Cheetos into mouth :
: pours the last of the Cheetos into mouth :
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Yes, MVS is definitely why the Chiefs won the last 2 superbowls, and not at all their generational QB, having the best TE in the league, or stellar defensive play.
no notes.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Wigglytuff's Gruff
Footballguy
Be nice to get the inside track on some of that KC play book if you're perennial losers to them.
second game on roster and he's at 55% snaps, 3 targets, 100 yards and 2 tds... no saints receiver eclipsed 55% snap share week 10. is there anyway MVS fills the shaheed speed/deep threat role ROS? i'm not thinking he'll be a consistent performer but there is nothing left in that WR room right now.
Stealthycat
Footballguy
I picked him up in a couple of league .... Carr has to throw to someone. MVS isn't a dynasty/keeper must have ... but for the next 4-6 weeks? I see a value
BladeRunner
Footballguy
I wish we could stop talking about this guy.
Doug B
Footballguy
I've got homer mud-colored glasses on, but:
What concerns me with MVS is how easily the Falcons neutralized him in the second half this past Sunday. Have to think future opponents will do the same for long stretches. Still, Stealthycat is on to something -- Carr has to throw to someone, and there are no other legit NFL starting WRs on the team's roster. Hopefully MVS picks up more of the playbook and Klint Kubiak can scheme him free at least a little more often.
In a start 6WR league I'm totally comfortable here.
I don't think I could start him in other leagues. I put bids in but ...
Feel like I've seen the MVS movie a few times before. Kinda goes like this:
1. He goes off while on the waiver wire.
2. You pick him up and he goes 1-6-0 while dropping three catchable balls..
3. You drop him and he goes off.
Quite possibly the ultimate whack a mole WR of all time.
1. He goes off while on the waiver wire.
2. You pick him up and he goes 1-6-0 while dropping three catchable balls..
3. You drop him and he goes off.
Quite possibly the ultimate whack a mole WR of all time.
