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WR Mike Evans, TB (1 Viewer)

Love Evans but having a LB covering him on a deep route shouldn't happen again. He's a very good WR, but I'm not sure I would make him a top 3 dynasty play just yet.
Ok so take that play away (you can't take that play away) and he still had 6-150-1.
I love Evans and I am pretty sure I posted in draft threads that I liked him more than Sammy and was devastated when it became clear Evans wasn't going to fall to the Lions. I just think there are a lot of really great WRs for dynasty and redraft and Evans isn't tier 1 yet.
 
Tron

AJG

Dez

Julio

This is the point where I start thinking of this year's rookie class. I'd take Evans over Jordy Nelson, for instance, because he's 9 years younger and appears to have superior physical tools. You may even prefer Evans to Julio because ATL's line is awful and he gets dinged pretty regularly. I don't know if I would trade Evans for Julio, and I have him barely ahead of Alshon also.

Top 5 dynasty WR to me. Could be overreaction, I don't think so though since it's been 3 weeks with pretty poor QB play and still :drive:
Antonio Brown is out there, too.
You're right. I'd have him around Evans at ~5, my own personal bias is toward WRs with size and generally freakish measurables in the elite tier; Brown seems to get by on tenacity and work ethic as opposed to athletic supremacy that the others have.

 
Tron

AJG

Dez

Julio

This is the point where I start thinking of this year's rookie class. I'd take Evans over Jordy Nelson, for instance, because he's 9 years younger and appears to have superior physical tools. You may even prefer Evans to Julio because ATL's line is awful and he gets dinged pretty regularly. I don't know if I would trade Evans for Julio, and I have him barely ahead of Alshon also.

Top 5 dynasty WR to me. Could be overreaction, I don't think so though since it's been 3 weeks with pretty poor QB play and still :drive:
Antonio Brown is out there, too.
You're right. I'd have him around Evans at ~5, my own personal bias is toward WRs with size and generally freakish measurables in the elite tier; Brown seems to get by on tenacity and work ethic as opposed to athletic supremacy that the others have.
Josh Gordon says hi.

 
And DT. WR is loaded with huge young studs right now, and more are coming out.

But Evans is working his way up the rankings.

 
Tron

AJG

Dez

Julio

This is the point where I start thinking of this year's rookie class. I'd take Evans over Jordy Nelson, for instance, because he's 9 years younger and appears to have superior physical tools. You may even prefer Evans to Julio because ATL's line is awful and he gets dinged pretty regularly. I don't know if I would trade Evans for Julio, and I have him barely ahead of Alshon also.

Top 5 dynasty WR to me. Could be overreaction, I don't think so though since it's been 3 weeks with pretty poor QB play and still :drive:
Antonio Brown is out there, too.
You're right. I'd have him around Evans at ~5, my own personal bias is toward WRs with size and generally freakish measurables in the elite tier; Brown seems to get by on tenacity and work ethic as opposed to athletic supremacy that the others have.
Josh Gordon says hi.
Right, forgot to add that I prefer receivers that have shown some semblance of respect for authority and aren't a jaywalking citation from a yearlong suspension. The dude got popped for a DUI while awaiting his other suspension FFS. And no Dez slapping his mama isn't a comparable situation

 
I prefer receivers that have shown some semblance of respect for authority and aren't a jaywalking citation from a yearlong suspension.
Jaywalking citation, or failing a drug test, of which the threshold has been more than doubled, of which he wouldve passed.

But, ok... If apparent risk isnt your thing, then Gordon isnt an elite, top tier WR - except that he is, and his numbers say so

 
I love the guy have him in one of my two leagues. But can't put him in that elite class until he starts drawing the other teams #1 corner, defenses rotating towards him and is beating that. He beat Buster Skrine like a drum and the Skins had a LBer on him at points. Before calling him elite I want to see him beat elite competition. That's why there's often a sophomore slump, coordinators react. Vincent Jackson is helping him immensely right now IMO. He's the one drawing Haden etc right now.

 
I hope Gordon keeps his nose clean because sports are more fun with all the best players on the field (see also Derrick Rose). Unfortunately the NFL operates like a military junta with troglodytic, draconian and more recently completely arbitrary behavioral policies. Until recreational weed use is legal in the eyes of the US and the NFL there is a level of risk attached to Gordon that I'm not comfortable with, but I understand the allure and don't fault you gambling types

 
I love the guy have him in one of my two leagues. But can't put him in that elite class until he starts drawing the other teams #1 corner, defenses rotating towards him and is beating that. He beat Buster Skrine like a drum and the Skins had a LBer on him at points. Before calling him elite I want to see him beat elite competition. That's why there's often a sophomore slump, coordinators react. Vincent Jackson is helping him immensely right now IMO. He's the one drawing Haden etc right now.
:goodposting:

 
fruity pebbles said:
I love the guy have him in one of my two leagues. But can't put him in that elite class until he starts drawing the other teams #1 corner, defenses rotating towards him and is beating that. He beat Buster Skrine like a drum and the Skins had a LBer on him at points. Before calling him elite I want to see him beat elite competition. That's why there's often a sophomore slump, coordinators react. Vincent Jackson is helping him immensely right now IMO. He's the one drawing Haden etc right now.
Wasn`t one of the passes (that Glennon missed) Evans had Haden beat?

 
I hope Gordon keeps his nose clean because sports are more fun with all the best players on the field (see also Derrick Rose). Unfortunately the NFL operates like a military junta with troglodytic, draconian and more recently completely arbitrary behavioral policies. Until recreational weed use is legal in the eyes of the US and the NFL there is a level of risk attached to Gordon that I'm not comfortable with, but I understand the allure and don't fault you gambling types
For some reason this concept is difficult for folks to grasp

 
Week 12 Cheat Sheet

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000432251/article/week-12-cheat-sheet

Excerpt:

The Legend of Mike Evans: Last Sunday, on a single drive that spanned the third and fourth quarters, Evans had four catches for a total of 104 yards. How is that possible, given that the drive started at the Tampa 20-yard line? The Bucs committed two penalties on the drive and had one rush for -4 yards, which translated to -24 yards. No other NFL player in the past 30 years has gained as many as 100 yards -- rushing and/or receiving -- on one drive.
 
Another TD. This guy is unstoppable.
King of blown coverage. One day the other team will decide to cover him.
What are you talking about? He stutter-stepped the CB right out of his shoes.
No he didn't. Was supposed to have support.
:lmao: he completely shook that corner. What are you watching?
Thank you. I only saw it quickly on Redzone but thought I knew what I saw. I know you're watching the game as a Bucs fan.
 
Another TD. This guy is unstoppable.
King of blown coverage. One day the other team will decide to cover him.
What are you talking about? He stutter-stepped the CB right out of his shoes.
No he didn't. Was supposed to have support.
:lmao: he completely shook that corner. What are you watching?
What I'm saying is that 20 yards out there should be deep support. If you beat the cb off the line there shouldn't be wide open field ahead of you especially if ur as dangerous as Evans. He's still not getting the respect of the defense.

 
Another TD. This guy is unstoppable.
King of blown coverage. One day the other team will decide to cover him.
What are you talking about? He stutter-stepped the CB right out of his shoes.
No he didn't. Was supposed to have support.
:lmao: he completely shook that corner. What are you watching?
What I'm saying is that 20 yards out there should be deep support. If you beat the cb off the line there shouldn't be wide open field ahead of you especially if ur as dangerous as Evans. He's still not getting the respect of the defense.
None of that has anything to do with you calling it "blown coverage". Gross mis-usage of the term.

 
Another TD. This guy is unstoppable.
King of blown coverage. One day the other team will decide to cover him.
What are you talking about? He stutter-stepped the CB right out of his shoes.
No he didn't. Was supposed to have support.
:lmao: he completely shook that corner. What are you watching?
What I'm saying is that 20 yards out there should be deep support. If you beat the cb off the line there shouldn't be wide open field ahead of you especially if ur as dangerous as Evans. He's still not getting the respect of the defense.
Even guys like Dez and Calvin still get single coverage at times. Evans is a stud, no excuses.

 
Another TD. This guy is unstoppable.
King of blown coverage. One day the other team will decide to cover him.
What are you talking about? He stutter-stepped the CB right out of his shoes.
No he didn't. Was supposed to have support.
:lmao: he completely shook that corner. What are you watching?
What I'm saying is that 20 yards out there should be deep support. If you beat the cb off the line there shouldn't be wide open field ahead of you especially if ur as dangerous as Evans. He's still not getting the respect of the defense.
They were in man. The safety was covering the middle of the field. You don't get doubled every play no matter how good you are.

 
Rotoworld:

Mike Evans has tied Mike Williams' franchise record with a receiving touchdown in four straight games.

The 6-foot-5 Evans beat 5-foot-11 Bears corner Kyle Fuller for his latest score, his eighth of the season and sixth in the last four weeks. With Josh McCown showing the utmost confidence in his rookie, Evans is bordering on WR1 status weekly now. He's also the top Dynasty wideout in perhaps the greatest rookie wideout class the NFL has ever seen.

Source: Tampa Tribune
Nov 24 - 10:15 AM
 
Only caught 3 of 11 targets. Anyone watch the game and see what the reason(s) was? has been well above 50% the previous 4 games and never below 50% all season.

 
Only caught 3 of 11 targets. Anyone watch the game and see what the reason(s) was? has been well above 50% the previous 4 games and never below 50% all season.
McCown was worse than awful.
Yes, he was.

Had Evans on a deep out in the 4th and underthrew him.

Even so, Evans has 505 yards receiving and SIX TDs in his last 4 games!!

He and ODB are just ripping the NFL a new one.

 
Only caught 3 of 11 targets. Anyone watch the game and see what the reason(s) was? has been well above 50% the previous 4 games and never below 50% all season.
McCown was worse than awful.
Yes, he was. Had Evans on a deep out in the 4th and underthrew him.

Even so, Evans has 505 yards receiving and SIX TDs in his last 4 games!!

He and ODB are just ripping the NFL a new one.
Yup and I thank my lucky stars I've got them both. It's unbelievable how polished these guys are.
 
Only caught 3 of 11 targets. Anyone watch the game and see what the reason(s) was? has been well above 50% the previous 4 games and never below 50% all season.
McCown was worse than awful.
Yes, he was.

Had Evans on a deep out in the 4th and underthrew him.

Even so, Evans has 505 yards receiving and SIX TDs in his last 4 games!!

He and ODB are just ripping the NFL a new one.
Don't forget Watkins in that conversation. He's made as many "wow" plays as either of them, and he's actually got better season totals than OBJ.

And the quality of QB these guys are putting up these numbers with can't be overstated. Here's how each of their teams' QBs rank among the 32 in NY/A this season:

Evans (McCown / Glennon): 21st

Beckham (Manning): 18th

Watkins (Manuel / Orton): 26th

Imagine how beastly each of these guys could be with even a Flacco or Ryan under center, never mind a true stud.

 
Only caught 3 of 11 targets. Anyone watch the game and see what the reason(s) was? has been well above 50% the previous 4 games and never below 50% all season.
McCown was worse than awful.
Yes, he was.

Had Evans on a deep out in the 4th and underthrew him.

Even so, Evans has 505 yards receiving and SIX TDs in his last 4 games!!

He and ODB are just ripping the NFL a new one.
Don't forget Watkins in that conversation. He's made as many "wow" plays as either of them, and he's actually got better season totals than OBJ.

And the quality of QB these guys are putting up these numbers with can't be overstated. Here's how each of their teams' QBs rank among the 32 in NY/A this season:

Evans (McCown / Glennon): 21st

Beckham (Manning): 18th

Watkins (Manuel / Orton): 26th

Imagine how beastly each of these guys could be with even a Flacco or Ryan under center, never mind a true stud.
You remember that Beckham didn't play the first 4 weeks, right? And he also missed the entire preseason.

 
unckeyherb said:
Only caught 3 of 11 targets. Anyone watch the game and see what the reason(s) was? has been well above 50% the previous 4 games and never below 50% all season.
McCown was worse than awful.
Yes, he was. Had Evans on a deep out in the 4th and underthrew him.

Even so, Evans has 505 yards receiving and SIX TDs in his last 4 games!!

He and ODB are just ripping the NFL a new one.
Yup and I thank my lucky stars I've got them both. It's unbelievable how polished these guys are.
Same here. And lucky enough to have Antonio Brown as my FF #! WR.

 
Only caught 3 of 11 targets. Anyone watch the game and see what the reason(s) was? has been well above 50% the previous 4 games and never below 50% all season.
McCown was worse than awful.
Yes, he was.

Had Evans on a deep out in the 4th and underthrew him.

Even so, Evans has 505 yards receiving and SIX TDs in his last 4 games!!

He and ODB are just ripping the NFL a new one.
Don't forget Watkins in that conversation. He's made as many "wow" plays as either of them, and he's actually got better season totals than OBJ.

And the quality of QB these guys are putting up these numbers with can't be overstated. Here's how each of their teams' QBs rank among the 32 in NY/A this season:

Evans (McCown / Glennon): 21st

Beckham (Manning): 18th

Watkins (Manuel / Orton): 26th

Imagine how beastly each of these guys could be with even a Flacco or Ryan under center, never mind a true stud.
You remember that Beckham didn't play the first 4 weeks, right? And he also missed the entire preseason.
I thought it was just the first 2 weeks he missed, but yeah, you're right.

Doesn't matter to the premise - given their QB play this season, assuming they stay healthy, it's possible what we're seeing out of all of these three could be closer to their floors than their ceilings. That's a really frightening thought.

 
unckeyherb said:
Only caught 3 of 11 targets. Anyone watch the game and see what the reason(s) was? has been well above 50% the previous 4 games and never below 50% all season.
McCown was worse than awful.
Yes, he was. Had Evans on a deep out in the 4th and underthrew him.

Even so, Evans has 505 yards receiving and SIX TDs in his last 4 games!!

He and ODB are just ripping the NFL a new one.
Yup and I thank my lucky stars I've got them both. It's unbelievable how polished these guys are.
Same here. And lucky enough to have Antonio Brown as my FF #! WR.
hah! me too. My WRs went from a liability with Brown/AJohnson/Quick to a strength once I grabbed these guys

 
Tough matchup for sure this week Cincy has been beastin lately allowing almost nothing thru the air.. Dare I say he's matchup proof? Going to find out

 
Evans accounted for 63% of the receiving TDs in the games he played in. That's twice as much as in his final college season of 30%.

 
This guy was such an easy projection to the NFL. Can't wait to watch him continue to grow as a 22-year old 2nd year player.

 
Evans accounted for 63% of the receiving TDs in the games he played in. That's twice as much as in his final college season of 30%.
That seems unsustainable.
Yes, but he only played 77.3% (768) of the snaps his rookie year. VJackson played 90.9% (903) in 2014. So he will likely get more playing time going forward. TD % won't need to be as high to get in the double digits.
You are missing the point. Regardless of playing time, 63% of the team's total receiving TDs is unsustainable.
 
Evans accounted for 63% of the receiving TDs in the games he played in. That's twice as much as in his final college season of 30%.
That seems unsustainable.
Yes, but he only played 77.3% (768) of the snaps his rookie year. VJackson played 90.9% (903) in 2014. So he will likely get more playing time going forward. TD % won't need to be as high to get in the double digits.
You are missing the point. Regardless of playing time, 63% of the team's total receiving TDs is unsustainable.
Yeah, I see they have been near the bottom bad in recent years in passing td's. He will have a long career though and will get his whether it's in Tampa or elsewhere. Needs better quarterback play to get 10+ most years. That is a crazy high %

 

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