Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Looks like it's more about him and his agent than the Bucs. A 3rd and a conditional 5th seems reasonable.
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WR Mike Evans, TB (1 Viewer)
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eighsse2
Footballguy
It's so specific as if he knows something, but he's the only person in the world who has this information, and his name is $waggy Spielzberg.
Can you imagine trying to setup a defense to defend against:
Amon Ra
Evans
Jamo
LaPorta
Gibbs
Montgomery
That is an insane amount talent at the skill positions. There is not a secondary that exists that could account for all those guys.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
This is what I hate about modern news stories. A whole lot of unconfirmed stuff out there
Hey, stop judging people based on whacky names.
massraider
Footballguy
Tell you what, it's a better world if we can trust $waggy Spielzberg.
I just don't know if that is the world we live in.
gucci little piggy
Footballguy
The Giants needed to do this to get under the salary cap. They have less than a million in cap space now, I believe.
As a Giants fan I'd like to see Evans here, but they'd still need to make some more moves first.
Chaka
Footballguy
I think the Giants now have $9 mil in cap space according to Spotrac.
gucci little piggy
Footballguy
Interesting...on overthecap their newsblurb about the Jones restructure says that they are at about $1 million in cap space. I have no idea which site is more reliable
Giants Restructure Daniel Jones' Contract | Over the Cap
Giants Restructure Daniel Jones' Contract | Over the Cap
overthecap.com
pghrob
Footballguy
Good old NFL insider $waggy Spielberg aka KadilakJak.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Makes too much sense not to, would be a real nice addition for NYG and I would think Big Mike would approve.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
In an era of truly "me" only players Mike Evans is a breath of fresh air.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
No sources. No hype pieces. My gut has this weird feeling Evans is about to get moved.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
He doesn't want to be moved and the Bucs don't want to move him. Per all reports he's had a dominant training camp. The Bucs are trying to win the division for the 3rd straight year. If they're going to move him due to not having a deal in place it won't be until closer to the trade deadline, and they'd only do it if they've had a brutal start to the season. Granted, that's possible. However, if you're breaking in a young QB, which they would be in that scenario, who better than to help him out than a veteran like Mike Evans? And with a QB on a rookie contract they can afford to splurge at WR.
Their only worry right now is they have $75M in dead cap this season, and a little more still next season, but they have other young players needing to be extended. Wirfs, Winfield, maybe Devin White if he has a good year. Etc. However, they also won't have to pay a QB big money.
Evans has graciously taken less to stay a Buc during his career. He has restructured his deals several times to help the team. He also has major ties to the community. I think they'll get something done.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Depends on the team of course. But yes.
Obviously KC would be ideal in many ways. Other than KC and the Giants, we’d probably wait until an injury to a contender. Although, they don’t really need him, but Jacksonville would be scary.
rockaction
Footballguy
Jets. They have the money and are all-in anyway. They desperately need a WR2 on their team after Corey Davis retired. And Mike Evans is a whole lot better than Corey Davis. Might even rub off on Garrett Wilson.
Jets would love to have him, and he might be the piece necessary for a SB for them.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Wasn’t Lazard supposed to be the 2? Or was he signed just to carry Aaron’s bags.
But yes, Evans would surely help.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
It’s being reported he’s asking for the Kupp deal. He and Kupp are the same age, but the deal for Evans would start two years later.
I don’t fault Evans for asking. I do wonder if he’ll be able to get more from someone else though?
He’ll be 31 after the season. I know the Bucs would like him to finish his career with them. Apparently they aren’t willing to guarantee it though. Can’t blame them either.
I hope he has a monster year and gets everything he wants. If TB starts slow he could get moved to a contender.
I don’t fault Evans for asking. I do wonder if he’ll be able to get more from someone else though?
He’ll be 31 after the season. I know the Bucs would like him to finish his career with them. Apparently they aren’t willing to guarantee it though. Can’t blame them either.
I hope he has a monster year and gets everything he wants. If TB starts slow he could get moved to a contender.
rockaction
Footballguy
I think Davis was going to be the consistent two. Or get cut because of salary issues. Or somewhere in between all of that.
I'm trying to say that I really don't know. I thought Davis had the edge over Lazard once the money thing was taken care of through restructuring. But he retired. Not sure if restructuring or being cut played any part in his decision. All we're left with is a note, a thank you, and a retirement.
I was pretty much banking on him being on the field a lot given his blocking prowess and given that the Jets are going to want to run the football quite a bit.
eta* I'm pretty sure the Jets wanted Davis. His retirement left them thin and inexperienced at WR.
if true that's a ridiculous ask at this point in his career, only reason to ask for that is if he wants out. TB isn't contending anytime soon so no reason to give him anywhere near that kind of money.
rockaction
Footballguy
Interesting. I don't necessarily get into the nitty gritty of the X Y Z distinction unless it is obvious. Seems like a guy like Lazard (who people say has trouble getting off of press, or at least doesn't really win that quickly at the LoS) is probably less suited than Davis for X, all things considered. I do remember Bri from this board telling us about Davis's trouble getting off of press, so that's something I never considered a strength of Davis's.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
I feel the same way, but as far as we know there has been no demand for a trade, and he isn’t holding out.
Evans’ agents have applauded the Bucs’ front office for the way they’ve handled negotiations. Starting to wonder if it’s ownership that’s unwilling to write the check.
massraider
Footballguy
I haven't been following, is this in question?
Letting him finish the deal, and move on seems to be the prudent business decision.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Is it? If they don’t even get a comp pick?
The jets, giants or chiefs could easily trade a late 2 and be much better for it.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Imagine Mahomes chucking it down the sideline to Evans. What Evans is good at and what Mahomes is capable of would result in something beautiful. From a business perspective, if I was in charge of Tampa, I'm not extending Evans with some massive Kupp like deal. I'm also not letting him simply play out contract to watch him walk out for nothing. I'm moving him for a 3rd and getting a better picture of the rest of my wr room before I blow it up next year. Imo
TLEF316
Footballguy
Unfortunately the Jets can't trade their 2nd round pick. (or their first rounder). If Rodgers plays less than 65% of the snaps this year, it goes to GB as part of the trade. (65% or more and they owe their first). So they can't trade either pick unless they work out a separate deal with GB (who has little incentive to help them since any additional Jets improvement means a lower pick for them later)
As a Jets fan, I would LOVE to get Evans for something like a 3 and a 5. Just not sure that's enough if he actually goes on the open market.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Fair enough. 2025 2nd or take the chance that Aaron doesn’t get 65%. Figure the Jets play 7 games before the deadline. Probably not a risk worth taking.
massraider
Footballguy
You think TB staff has that much job security? Like, they are definitely going to be around to make that draft pick?
Evans isn't really going to help anyone's job security
massraider
Footballguy
I think it might help more than a 2025 2nd round pick.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
That's a really good point in all this. We offer opinions of what we would do like it's a Madden video game. What if there was a chance u lose control if u don't do good now? I obviously don't trade Evans for a pick in that scenario. Don't know the internal discussions on job safety for those making the decisions on him.
massraider
Footballguy
It's massive.
Give the GM and the coach 5 year guaranteed deals, and maybe you'll see more of this forward thinking. Otherwise, you get humans who wanna keep their jobs.
Seems doubtful, TB projected at 6 wins this year. Without Evans would still be projected at 6 wins, maybe 5.5
-OZ-
Footballguy
It seems really short sighted by the owner or other decision makers. Obviously the Bucs have made mostly short term moves in recent years and it’s largely worked out. Right now though, maybe Glazer knows the best long term move is to get future compensation?
Ok, probably not.
I think that would be illegal in most states
massraider
Footballguy
If you have a coach/GM on a one year deal, why would they ever trade for future picks, right?
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Not officially. I was reading between the lines.
The Frankman
Footballguy
