Calling Bateman a future star and potentially one of the best WRs in the NFL is a real stretch based on his first two seasons and his situation with the Ravens passing game. Sounds a bit like the Gabe Davis hype last year except Davis plays in an offense with a QB where that kind of breakout potential was valid. Bateman doesn't have the same situation. Very limited pie in the passing game.
I don’t se the Bateman to Gabe Davis comp at all.
Not remotely.
Bateman profiled better, was the 27th overall pick in the 1st, so draft capital is a major factor.
Davis was drafted in the 4th at pick 128
Bateman ran a 4.39, Davis a 4.54
It’s just a bizarre comparison.
Not a bizarre comparison at all. Last season, Davis was being hyped as a break out star by many, often going in the late 3rd round of drafts. Same thing you are doing with Bateman now. Except Bateman isn't nearly in as good of a situation as Davis was.
Yes, people were hyping Davis.
I see a world of difference. For one, very little hype on Bateman right now. One person talking him up as a buy-low isn’t remotely the same as every FF writer hyping up Davis as a breakout.
Also, Davis had a true alpha ahead of him in Diggs, whereas Bateman was drafted to BE the Ravens alpha WR.
Not remotely the same.
When I acquired Davis as a toss-in in 2021 dynasty, he wasn’t being drafted anywhere near the 4th, or even 5th, 6th or 7th round pick in FF redraft.
i have no idea where Bateman profiles for 2023 redraft, nor have I suggested any prospective FF draft capital for him.
I merely pointed out the talent, profile, and draft capital the Ravens have invested in him.
It matters.
Based on your draft capital stance, I guess Kardaius Toney is going to be even better than Bateman this year. After all, he was drafted 7 spots higher in the same draft. About the same size and speed as Bateman and plays with a better QB. Maybe trade Amon-Ra St. Brown for Bateman because St. Brown was taken in the 4th round in the same draft and his measurables aren't nearly as good?
Respectfully, these are all strange comparisons and suggestions, not worthy of addressing. They have nothing to do with my suggestion that Bateman is a great buy-low off 2 injury seasons (I recently bought in both of my dynasty leagues for full disclosure/money where my mouth is)
There’s zero similarity between my suggesting Bateman as a rebound buy-low, and the *entire FF ecosystem going gaga over Davis*. None.
Hey, maybe, just maybe the hype machine will start building up prior to fantasy football draft season… And maybe people will jump on the bandwagon and start pushing Bateman up the board.
For now, I seem to be one of the only people diving in on him. I did some research and looked for potential by low wide receivers, and Rashod Bateman stood out to me as a glaring example of a great buy low. Obviously, anyone is welcome to agree or disagree with that sentiment. no judgment.
I think it is woefully premature and remarkably shortsighted to write him off as a bust after two injury plagued seasons.
Draft capital isn't the end all be all and neither are measurables. Teams make draft day mistakes every year based on measurables. Doubt the Vikings would trade Justin Jefferson for any of the 4 WRs taken before him in the 2020 draft.
But again, knock yourself out with Bateman
I don’t think there’s any evidence that Bateman was a “mistake” by the Ravens. 2 injuries doesn’t make him a bust.
That’s where I entirely disagree with your rather hasty dismissal of Bateman as a (apparently) a bust.
But hey, to each their own. Thanks for the well wishes about him - the dude is a great player. A little more luck with health and I see a legitimate FF WR1. A little more passing by LJax and he’s gonna be an NFL WR1 as well.
And relevant to the topic at hand, I still believe he’s the Ravens WR1 despite what OBJ was paid. At least until I see OBJ stay healthy & perform in his age 30 season.