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WR Odell Beckham, Jr., Free Agent (2 Viewers)

should he get suspended? yes

Will he get suspended? probably

Will he appeal the likely suspension and play this week? absolutely

 
The NFL and the NFL Players Association collectively bargain an on-field code of conduct for all teams, players and staff members. The result: a well-defined schedule of infractions and fines.

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The NFL uses the fine schedule to outline the league’ and the union’s expectations for players to conduct themselves in a way that honors the sport and respects the game, their fellow players, the fans and the league. The rules are intended to protect the players from unnecessary risk, promote player safety and emphasize sportsmanship and respect of teammates, opponents, coaches, officials and fans Player infractions may come to the league’s attention in a variety of ways. The league may respond to an official’s call during a game or to a specific play that a team submits for review. The NFL Officiating Department also reviews every play from every game and refers potential violations to the Football Operations compliance team. League staff members examine the plays identified as having potential infractions to determine whether there is cause for additional review. If there is, they are sent to the executive vice president of Football Operations, Troy Vincent, and the vice president of Football Operations, Merton Hanks, who decide what discipline — if any — is warranted. Players subject to discipline receive a letter informing them of what they did, a video of the play in question, why they are being fined and how much it will cost them. They also receive information on how to appeal the fine. If they choose not to appeal, the fine is withheld from their next game check. If a player protests a ruling, he schedules a hearing with the NFL, and his case is assigned to one of the league’s current appeals officers, Derrick Brooks or James Thrash, who are jointly appointed and paid by the NFL and NFLPA. Cases are assigned randomly, so neither side in the appeals process knows who will hear a case. The officer assigned to the case reviews the play and hears the league’s case and the player’s defense. The officer’s decision is final, and the ruling is binding. If the appeal is rejected, the league withholds the amount of the fine from the player’s next check. If the player wins his appeal, he will receive notification of the decision, and no money will be taken from his check. The fines collected do not go to the NFL, but instead go to programs for former players. The Players Association and the league have agreed to donate fine money through the NFL Foundation to the NFL Player Care Foundation and the Gene Upshaw Players Association’s Player Assistance Trust. The Player Care Foundation, an independent organization dedicated to helping retired players improve their quality of life, provides programs and assistance with medical, emotional, financial, social and community issues. The Gene Upshaw Players Assistance Trust assists former players who are facing financial hardship due to unforeseen crisis, unaffordable medical situations and helps those who wish to go back to school to finish their undergraduate degrees. Since 2009, about $4 million a year has gone to help former players. VIOLATIONFIRST OFFENSESECOND OFFENSE Offense Against Game Official Physical Contact With Official1st - $28,940 2nd - $57,881 Verbal or Other Nonphysical Offense Against Official1st - $23,152 2nd - $46,305 Player Safety Rules and/or Flagrant Personal Foul (including, without limitation): Suspension or fine; severity to be determined by degree of violation (FINES LISTED ARE MINIMUMS). Striking/Kicking/Kneeing1st - $8,681 2nd - $17,363 Horse-Collar Tackle1st - $17,363 2nd - $34,728 Face Mask1st - $8,681 2nd - $17,363 Leg Whip1st - $17,363 2nd - $34,728 Late Hit1st $8,681 2nd - $17,363 Spearing1st - $23,152 2nd $46,305 Impermissible Use of the Helmet (including illegal launching)1st - $23,152 2nd - $46,305 Hit on Defenseless Player1st - $23,152 2nd - $46,305 Blind-Side Block1st - $23,152 2nd - $46,305 Roughing the Passer1st - $17,363 2nd - $34,728 Low Block1st - $8,681 2nd - $17,363 Chop Block1st - $8,681 2nd - $17,363 Fighting Fighting1st - $28,940 2nd - $57,881 Unnecessarily Entering Fight Area (active involvement)1st - $5,787 2nd - $11,576 Unnecessarily Entering Fight Area (no active involvement)1st - $2,893 2nd - $8,681 Sportsmanship Excessive Profanity; Other Unsportsmanlike Conduct (e.g., toward opponent, game personnel, fans, etc.) 1st - $11,576 2nd - $23,152 Taunting 1st - $8,681 2nd - $11,576 Football Into Stands 1st - $5,787 2nd - $11,576 Uniform Foreign Substances on Body/Uniform 1st - $8,681 2nd - $17,363 Chin Straps 1st - $8,681 2nd - $11,576 Personal Messages 1st - $5,787 2nd - $11,576 (Additional fines may be imposed on team management and coaching staffs for condoning, permitting, etc., violations in this area) Other Uniform/Equipment Violations 1st - $5,787 2nd - $11,576 On-Field Commercial Logo Violation Considered violation of official league licensing agreements; suspension or fine; severity to be determined by degree of violation. Gang Signing Considered conduct detrimental to the league; suspension or fine; severity to be determined in accordance with provisions of the Personal Conduct Policy. Starting in 2012, fine minimums will increase by 5 percent each year as stipulated in the NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement. The increases continue throughout the duration of the current CBA.
nfl.com $107,077 for OBJ? :shrug:
Make it 130k. You somehow forgot to highlight "improper use of helmet/launching" which seems to fit perfectly.

 
should he get suspended? yes

Will he get suspended? probably

Will he appeal the likely suspension and play this week? absolutely
I doubt that happens. They won't allow the player and team to manipulate which game he misses. They have a must win game with Minnesota this week. If they lose, next week's game means nothing. The league isn't going to let the Giants dictate which game he misses. If there's a suspension, it'll be announced today or tomorrow and the appeal will be Friday.

 
should he get suspended? yes

Will he get suspended? probably

Will he appeal the likely suspension and play this week? absolutely
I doubt that happens. They won't allow the player and team to manipulate which game he misses. They have a must win game with Minnesota this week. If they lose, next week's game means nothing. The league isn't going to let the Giants dictate which game he misses. If there's a suspension, it'll be announced today or tomorrow and the appeal will be Friday.
It happens all of the time. The suspension comes down, the player appeals late in the week (Friday night or even Saturday), leaving no time for the appeal hearing prior to the game. He's playing this week. Mark my words.

 
should he get suspended? yes

Will he get suspended? probably

Will he appeal the likely suspension and play this week? absolutely
I doubt that happens. They won't allow the player and team to manipulate which game he misses. They have a must win game with Minnesota this week. If they lose, next week's game means nothing. The league isn't going to let the Giants dictate which game he misses. If there's a suspension, it'll be announced today or tomorrow and the appeal will be Friday.
That's what always happens. The league's goal isn't to punish the entire Giants organization.
 
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should he get suspended? yes

Will he get suspended? probably

Will he appeal the likely suspension and play this week? absolutely
I doubt that happens. They won't allow the player and team to manipulate which game he misses. They have a must win game with Minnesota this week. If they lose, next week's game means nothing. The league isn't going to let the Giants dictate which game he misses. If there's a suspension, it'll be announced today or tomorrow and the appeal will be Friday.
That's what always happens. The league's goal isn't to punish the entire Giants organization.
Why not? The Giants did nothing to diffuse the situation and left a dangerous player on the field. They could (should) have easily benched him after multiple unsportsmanlike penalties.

 
should he get suspended? yes

Will he get suspended? probably

Will he appeal the likely suspension and play this week? absolutely
I doubt that happens. They won't allow the player and team to manipulate which game he misses. They have a must win game with Minnesota this week. If they lose, next week's game means nothing. The league isn't going to let the Giants dictate which game he misses. If there's a suspension, it'll be announced today or tomorrow and the appeal will be Friday.
That's what always happens. The league's goal isn't to punish the entire Giants organization.
Why not? The Giants did nothing to diffuse the situation and left a dangerous player on the field. They could (should) have easily benched him after multiple unsportsmanlike penalties.
They're trying to win a game. It's not up to the league how the Giants use their players. Some of you are going way off the deep end here. Punish the team WTF....cmon.

 
should he get suspended? yes

Will he get suspended? probably

Will he appeal the likely suspension and play this week? absolutely
I doubt that happens. They won't allow the player and team to manipulate which game he misses. They have a must win game with Minnesota this week. If they lose, next week's game means nothing. The league isn't going to let the Giants dictate which game he misses. If there's a suspension, it'll be announced today or tomorrow and the appeal will be Friday.
That's what always happens. The league's goal isn't to punish the entire Giants organization.
Why not? The Giants did nothing to diffuse the situation and left a dangerous player on the field. They could (should) have easily benched him after multiple unsportsmanlike penalties.
Huge Giants fan here, and I could not agree more, and said that several times during the game. Completely lost all respect for Coughlin, who said he "never even considered benching him" and seemed to have a very indifferent attitude about it after the game. I would think the Mara's can't be too happy with his antics, as he has really embarrassed the organization.
 
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should he get suspended? yes

Will he get suspended? probably

Will he appeal the likely suspension and play this week? absolutely
I doubt that happens. They won't allow the player and team to manipulate which game he misses. They have a must win game with Minnesota this week. If they lose, next week's game means nothing. The league isn't going to let the Giants dictate which game he misses. If there's a suspension, it'll be announced today or tomorrow and the appeal will be Friday.
That's what always happens. The league's goal isn't to punish the entire Giants organization.
Why not? The Giants did nothing to diffuse the situation and left a dangerous player on the field. They could (should) have easily benched him after multiple unsportsmanlike penalties.
They're trying to win a game. It's not up to the league how the Giants use their players. Some of you are going way off the deep end here. Punish the team WTF....cmon.
Players get suspended. Teams get hurt. Maybe ODB should have had his team's best interest in mind instead of his own. Anyway, an appeal notwithstanding it appears the NFL has determined a suspension is warranted.

 
I know it's not here or there but lots of people are posting about how this got overlooked and yet safeties and other defenders mostly have been penalized, fined, suspended for getting anywhere close to the head on a personal foul so those are good points.

Also, not sure why this is coming to mind, but I recall a year or two ago, Luke Kuechly was trying to get a loose ball and a ref approached him from behind to pull him off the pile and, without knowing who it was pulling him, Kuechly swing his arm back and made contact with the ref. Instant ejection. Yet, we all saw punch attempts, head strikes, etc yesterday from OBJ and nothing.

I think OBJ got in more hits on Norman yesterday than I did on Swan (Fallout 4) my first go around.
as far as the head slaps and such both guys were going blow for blow all game. Norman grabbed Beckham early in the game and body slammed him, he came up high to the head on a jam play that was shown on TV so let's no pretend that this was some one sided affair. Beckham absolutely went over the line with the running spear to the head (which I think he'll get suspended for) but for the most part they were both going right after each other after every whistle.
I agree. Norman was no innocent bystander. They were both doing their share of cheap shotting and helmet slapping. But Beckham's running head spear was a different level. Two guys standing toe to toe in full gear aren't going to hurt each other. But what Beckham did was ridiculous. He's the luckiest guy on the planet that he didn't hurt Norman. I honestly don't know how he kept his feet.
Yes, obviously it takes two to tango but I'm really only talking about OBJ because it is an OBJ thread and because his action was the one that clearly, clearly was too far out of line to ignore.

 
should he get suspended? yes

Will he get suspended? probably

Will he appeal the likely suspension and play this week? absolutely
should he get suspended? yes

Will he get suspended? probably

Will he appeal the likely suspension and play this week? absolutely
I doubt that happens. They won't allow the player and team to manipulate which game he misses. They have a must win game with Minnesota this week. If they lose, next week's game means nothing. The league isn't going to let the Giants dictate which game he misses. If there's a suspension, it'll be announced today or tomorrow and the appeal will be Friday.
while you're probably right, the NFL has to know OBJ will be in many FF leagues Super Bowls. They make boatloads off FF, therefore they let him play this week.

or at least that's my hope as I have Eli and OBJ in the Super Bowl. :oldunsure:

 
i don't think some of you really follow football.

you realize that if he is suspended, it would be today, followed by an appeal and final decision coming tomorrow? all of it will be done before wednesday's practice.

it will be a travesty if he isn't suspended. i don't have ODB and neither does my opponent in the finals. he risked player safety by targeting norman's head with his helmet and for that alone, he needs to be suspended.

 
https://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/josh-norman-body-slams-odell-beckham-jr.gif?w=1000

Spear was going to far, but the Panthers were getting away with stuff like above all game.
Was a very chippy, physical game. Beckham should get a big fine for the spear but suspension is silly.
The league, the players association, the players and the referees should take head injuries and concussions seriously. A suspension is not silly. Norman has had at least 2 prior concussions.

 
I'm usually pro- player on most issues but a suspension here is absolutely in order, especially since the officials failed to eject him during the game.

Full disclosure- Pending tonight's results I could be facing the Eli/OBJ owner in the finals next week so a suspension would greatly benefit me as well.

But objectively, given how intentional and wreckless the helmet to helmet hit on Norman was, a suspension is more than warranted.

 
should he get suspended? yes

Will he get suspended? probably

Will he appeal the likely suspension and play this week? absolutely
I doubt that happens. They won't allow the player and team to manipulate which game he misses. They have a must win game with Minnesota this week. If they lose, next week's game means nothing. The league isn't going to let the Giants dictate which game he misses. If there's a suspension, it'll be announced today or tomorrow and the appeal will be Friday.
That's what always happens. The league's goal isn't to punish the entire Giants organization.
Why not? The Giants did nothing to diffuse the situation and left a dangerous player on the field. They could (should) have easily benched him after multiple unsportsmanlike penalties.
Huge Giants fan here, and I could not agree more, and said that several times during the game. Completely lost all respect for Coughlin, who said he "never even considered benching him" and seemed to have a very indifferent attitude about it after the game. I would think the Mara's can't be too happy with his antics, as he has really embarrassed the organization.
My thoughts, exactly. Especially the loss of respect. I'm probably making a mountain out of a mole hill but this IS the Mara family and should the Giants not make the playoffs, this could be heavily weighed on a decision to go another direction. That was embarrassing to the team and the family and I don't think it will cut it.

In regards to the suspension, I guess we have to examine the other side of the tale should he be suspended. Would they appeal because I can see them beating the Vikes without him, especially if Peterson is limited with the ankle but if they monkey around with it and then the appeal forces OBJ to sit in week 17 or the playoffs (sort of like the Tom Brady issue earlier when they were guessing if he would appeal or if the league would wait on their appeal when they lost), that would be more damaging to the real team. It is something to consider.

This is all karma because had Coughlin done the right thing or had the officials done the right thing when it happened, he would, at most, been sitting out a little over a quarter and that would have been the end of it.

 
should he get suspended? yes

Will he get suspended? probably

Will he appeal the likely suspension and play this week? absolutely
should he get suspended? yes

Will he get suspended? probably

Will he appeal the likely suspension and play this week? absolutely
I doubt that happens. They won't allow the player and team to manipulate which game he misses. They have a must win game with Minnesota this week. If they lose, next week's game means nothing. The league isn't going to let the Giants dictate which game he misses. If there's a suspension, it'll be announced today or tomorrow and the appeal will be Friday.
while you're probably right, the NFL has to know OBJ will be in many FF leagues Super Bowls. They make boatloads off FF, therefore they let him play this week.

or at least that's my hope as I have Eli and OBJ in the Super Bowl. :oldunsure:
If that were the case, Josh Gordon and Justin Blackmon would be in the league.

 
https://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/josh-norman-body-slams-odell-beckham-jr.gif?w=1000

Spear was going to far, but the Panthers were getting away with stuff like above all game.
Was a very chippy, physical game. Beckham should get a big fine for the spear but suspension is silly.
With all due respect...I am assuming based on your location you are a Giants fan (as am I). The merits of suspension could be argued, but the obvious intent to injure Norman on the spear make it far from silly. The only thing saving OBJ is the miraculous fact that Norman didn't get injured at all. If Norman had been injured, this would have escalated to an entirely other level.

 
https://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/josh-norman-body-slams-odell-beckham-jr.gif?w=1000

Spear was going to far, but the Panthers were getting away with stuff like above all game.
Was a very chippy, physical game. Beckham should get a big fine for the spear but suspension is silly.
With all due respect...I am assuming based on your location you are a Giants fan (as am I). The merits of suspension could be argued, but the obvious intent to injure Norman on the spear make it far from silly. The only thing saving OBJ is the miraculous fact that Norman didn't get injured at all. If Norman had been injured, this would have escalated to an entirely other level.
Absolutely agree. Had that occurred, OBJ probably gets ejected, fined, and suspended. If not ejected, the Panthers certainly would have filed a complaint with the league and I'd bet there would be an officiating crew on the commissioner's carpet explaining themselves this morning (if they haven't already).

I'd say it is safe to say that crew won't be working a playoff game (maybe they will because of supply and demand but the point is they should be answering some questions on why they allowed that to carry out).

 
should he get suspended? yes

Will he get suspended? probably

Will he appeal the likely suspension and play this week? absolutely
should he get suspended? yes

Will he get suspended? probably

Will he appeal the likely suspension and play this week? absolutely
I doubt that happens. They won't allow the player and team to manipulate which game he misses. They have a must win game with Minnesota this week. If they lose, next week's game means nothing. The league isn't going to let the Giants dictate which game he misses. If there's a suspension, it'll be announced today or tomorrow and the appeal will be Friday.
while you're probably right, the NFL has to know OBJ will be in many FF leagues Super Bowls. They make boatloads off FF, therefore they let him play this week.

or at least that's my hope as I have Eli and OBJ in the Super Bowl. :oldunsure:
If that were the case, Josh Gordon and Justin Blackmon would be in the league.
:no: one week, one game vs. a pattern of behavior. To be clear, I'm not suggesting they not suspend OBJ, just that it isn't for week 16.

also that I'm just hoping.

 
Ok i watched the whole game. Beckham's one cheap shot was bad. The rest was just physical stuff that the refs worked out of the game with penalties. That cheap shot was bad, and he'll ultimately get a big fine for it. Possibly suspension. Of course, Norman started it by slapping him across the face at the beginning of the route.

Two physical players that were both a little too hyped up for the game. For his part, Odell came close to dominating Norman statistically as he had a solid day, scored a TD and burnt him on a long bomb, only to drop it.

Norman got in Odell's head for the better part of a half.

Maybe it's just me, but aside from that one really bad play with the slap and the cheapshot, it was quite entertaining to watch.

 
on the heels of the "player safety" campaign and concussion melee, it would be an absolute laugh to see the NFL let him walk away from this.

But, they likely will. At least a game for the league to save face... They have to... But they also dont want to tarnish their golden boy.

Will be interesting

 
Since Norman was involved in the play I think it will be just a fine, and if he does get suspended he will appeal and play this weekend. They were both going at it all game. Norman should be fined also. It's not like he was an innocent victim. I thought the announcers made OBJ look like the instigator but Norman and the other Panthers were intentionally trying to goad OBJ.

 
Couple things....First, I feel like the media is SOMEWHAT hyping this whole thing....good example just occurred on NFL network. They showed a tweet by Jeff Daniels that said "If this were a hockey game, they would have gone by now". The talking head host guy read it as "They would have been gone by now" like they should be ejected. Just seems like they've decided to take the story as far down the negative road as possible.

Second, with the earlier post showing the league policies and fines with the blue highlights...I see lots of $$$, but no suspension language. Is that a separate category that is purely subjective by Goodell?

 
That should say Johnson-Innegan cause AJ beat the F out of that dude.
and innegan got tossed.
How many of those 4 players were suspended?
Hopefully, none. Two guys squaring up is how men settle things. Sprinting 15 yards and launching your helmet into someone's jaw is not.

 
https://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/josh-norman-body-slams-odell-beckham-jr.gif?w=1000

Spear was going to far, but the Panthers were getting away with stuff like above all game.

Suh and others didn't get suspended their first time. Though if OBJ is suspended a game I won't be upset. I do think Norman should be fined too or his actions should be considered for any punishment for OBJ.

The refs are really responsible for not clamping down on the crap the Panther DBs were doing.
ridiculously he didn't even get a penalty for that. It's that stuff that the refs didn't address early that led to the escalation throughout the game.

 
I just heard Boomer (the QB) on Boston radio and he said the story was going to get real ugly. He said he hasn't been able to confirm anything but it certainly seemed to be that he was alluding to their being a gay angle to this whole dust up.
Just going to leave this here.

http://bossip.com/1258368/sassy-baller-files-odell-beckham-jrs-most-suspect-moments/

NTTAWWT

 
I just heard Boomer (the QB) on Boston radio and he said the story was going to get real ugly. He said he hasn't been able to confirm anything but it certainly seemed to be that he was alluding to their being a gay angle to this whole dust up.
Just going to leave this here.

http://bossip.com/1258368/sassy-baller-files-odell-beckham-jrs-most-suspect-moments/

NTTAWWT
Huh? Am I correctly translating these posts to imply that OBJ may be gay and that Norman may have incited OBJ's reactions because of this somehow?

 
Huh? Am I correctly translating these posts to imply that OBJ may be gay and that Norman may have incited OBJ's reactions because of this somehow?
Yes, OBJ actually stands for "Offering...

well.. you get it.

 
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Couple things....First, I feel like the media is SOMEWHAT hyping this whole thing....good example just occurred on NFL network. They showed a tweet by Jeff Daniels that said "If this were a hockey game, they would have gone by now". The talking head host guy read it as "They would have been gone by now" like they should be ejected. Just seems like they've decided to take the story as far down the negative road as possible.

Second, with the earlier post showing the league policies and fines with the blue highlights...I see lots of $$$, but no suspension language. Is that a separate category that is purely subjective by Goodell?
Somewhat? Its what they need to fill time and get interaction on social media. Next week it will be something else. They stir the pot better than anyone.

 
Huh? Am I correctly translating these posts to imply that OBJ may be gay and that Norman may have incited OBJ's reactions because of this somehow?
Yes, OBJ actually stands for "Offering...

well.. you get it.
And this suspected "gay" guy (by some in the media) is the most dominate and electrifying WR in this mans game full of testosterone, what does that say about the people covering him?

 
Huh? Am I correctly translating these posts to imply that OBJ may be gay and that Norman may have incited OBJ's reactions because of this somehow?
Yes, OBJ actually stands for "Offering...

well.. you get it.
And this suspected "gay" guy (by some in the media) is the most dominate and electrifying WR in this mans game full of testosterone, what does that say about the people covering him?
homophobes. all of them

 
I just heard Boomer (the QB) on Boston radio and he said the story was going to get real ugly. He said he hasn't been able to confirm anything but it certainly seemed to be that he was alluding to their being a gay angle to this whole dust up.
I just listened (link below).

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/12/21/boomer-esiason-i-would-have-ejected-odell-beckham-jr-for-launching-at-josh-norman/

4:50-6:30

If OBJ likes sausage, good on him. He'd be the best athlete to come out, more power to him. I think most people don't care one way or another.

But if the rumors are true, just own it and to hell with everyone else. If you can't handle people talking ####, you can't keep your cool on the field, you're hurting your team.

 
Huh? Am I correctly translating these posts to imply that OBJ may be gay and that Norman may have incited OBJ's reactions because of this somehow?
Yes, OBJ actually stands for "Offering...

well.. you get it.
And this suspected "gay" guy (by some in the media) is the most dominate and electrifying WR in this mans game full of testosterone, what does that say about the people covering him?
homophobes. all of them
Norman should be suspended for taunting ODBjr's gayness.

 
If the league is so concerned about head hits, why did they not stop the game to check for a concussion on Norman after the blow tot he head?

If he gets suspended for the SNF game, he will win an over turn on appeal.
Not likely he'd win an appeal. Very rare.

 
ya, if he came out, the media would turn him into a demi god.

he should, if he is. live free, man
If he comes out today no way the NFL suspends him.

Cause celebre - this story goes international if it's true.
Ha. Unfortunately, you are correct. Even though everyone (Giants fans and ODB owners aside) know that Beckham deserves a suspension, he'd become untouchable if he worked up the courage to come out today.

 

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