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ya antonio brown has been rediculous the last few years.
did i say he wouldnt?
How is he more proven? Beckham has proven more in his 12 games than Julio has n his career. People get totally hung up on perception. Look I'm not one to jump in with both feet on just any player but this kid is special. He makes it look easy because he's just that good.
jimmy graham's stats last year, were similar to his production 2 years ago. if they were chasing his 2011 stats last year, then they were successful. and even this year, his production was similar for the first 12 weeks.
No, there's a group of about 7 or so WR's who could end up the top WR, but Beckham is in that group and the youngest.
I would be happy if he would put up the same numbers, 91/1200/12, over a 16 game span which is very obtainable and realistic.
The owner of the NYG publicly compares Beckham to the greatest player in their franchise history. Yes, he has to sell tickets after 2 bad seasons but he also has nowhere to hide if he's wrong. Stop the Allen and Clayton comparisons. The kid is special and half of these many ODB threads have already turned into fans vs naysayers because anyone can make stats say whatever they want. It's incredible that of all the ODB threads on this site, there really is no constructive conversation.
Did either of you guys actually watch LT play??? Maybe we should just put OBJ the hall of fame now???
yes and I think the owner of the team may have seen him as well. He's also not saying that he's going to be as good as LT just that they haven't had an impact player with unique physical abilities since him. Not sure why that's so outrageous if you've seen Beckham play.
this is an awesome piece done by Mayock on ODB after the Seattle game. http://www.giants.com/videos/videos/Mayocks-Slant-Odell-Beckham-finding-his-groove/6a9fbb5b-6c7c-4c8b-ac35-1877c46d8224
On a 200 dollar budget? If that is the case you and your buddies should save some time and they should just wire you the first place money every August and take up another hobby.
Ha, I am expecting a check for 2K any day now thanks to ODB. But seriously, it's a 10 team league with top tier WR going for $40-50 and the top 3-4 RBs going for $50-60. The only time I can remember a WR going for $55-60 was Megatron after his 96/1,681/16 2011 season. Based on the league bidding history, I think getting ODB for $45-50 is about right.msudaisy26 said:
The floor seems reasonable...on the ceiling as crazy as it seems I think the targets (about 11 per game) are in line with the top wr's and he has elite hands which results in a very high catch % so the receptions aren't outlandish...TD's may be high. For consideration...Antonio Brown this year finished with 181 targets, 129 receptions, 1,698 yards and 13 tds...Demarius 184 targets, 111 receptions, 1,619 yards and 11 tds. Since becoming a starter after the bye week when they really started to rely on him he averaged 12.7 targets a game. Down the stretch when they were on a winning streak and heavily leaning on him he had 15, 15, 12 and 21 targets for 15.75/game. I anticipate that he'll be among the league leaders in targets when all is said and done so as crazy as those numbers look I think it's a justifiable ceiling.
The two best seasons by a 6-0 or shorter WR were Isaac Bruce (119/1781/13) and Antonio Brown (129/1698/13).
Corey Washington, Parker and Randle are irrelevant to Beckhams targets. Teams will happily let those scrubs eat all they want and you see where that got the giants early this year. Randle got a TON of targets early in the year and did nothing with them. Even if they all get A LOT better...Beckham>>>>>>>any of those guys. Cruz, if healthy May impact targets but I feel that the offense will improve as it did this year so the whole pie will likely increase.
Didn't you see that he played Seattle this season?
I think Watkins would have put up far better numbers in NY than Buffalo. Not saying he's better than ODB but he was definitely held back this year by crappy QB play (yes Eli and the Giants offense was way better than Manuel/what's his face)
Point is, you think the Giants would swap OBJ for Watkins right now??
Good post. One of the things that has really resonated with me is his desire to be great. You can see it on the field on nearly every play. He competes like mad for every ball, every route and plays with a ton of emotion. The Giants were a dumpster fire but he never played like it was a lost season and he was the most exciting part of the team in the last half of the season. Most players, especially rookie wrs, don't and can't lift a team like he did. There's also no way as a rookie that you can learn every route for every position without working hard and studying off the field. All players want to be great but to reach out to some of the best to play sports and ask their advice and what it takes to be great just shows the character and maturity of the kid as well.Kitrick Taylor said:
