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WR Odell Beckham, Jr., Free Agent (5 Viewers)
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The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Cowboys owner Jerry Jones says team is close to signing WR Odell Beckham, Jr. for playoff push
Odell Beckham, Jr. is apparently on the verge of joining Dallas for the upcoming NFL playoffs, according to Cowboys owner Jerry Jones.
www.usatoday.com
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Just curious if anyone knows the answer to this. Can playoff teams still sign street free agents? All player contracts and paychecks are paid out in Weeks 1-18. Similarly, the salary cap for 2022 essentially closed out when the regular season ended, so there would be no way to account for the contract and apply it to the 2022 season. Unless I am missing something, there would be no way to compensate the newly signed player.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
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And regarding Odell this is a bad look for him but this is twice now he's been thrown off a plane for being in such a hard sleep they had a hard time waking him up, right? That seems excessive, and I mean by the flight staff, not Odell.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
As far as the street free agents part goes, what is the mechanism for a team to do so? Based on what I remember on players getting paid, all that's left for players to collect are playoff shares and there are no more pay checks (or salary cap charges) this season. Other than a team would be dumb to do something like this, what's to stop someone from signing OBJ to a $20 million contract for the playoffs (and not even play him) with 2 additional years at $5 million per year? (Basically a 2-year deal worth $30 million). How would that $20 million be accounted for under the salary cap?
eighsse2
Footballguy
Wait, this is a second incident?
Not entirely sure but you can rollover unused cap space so I think that's one area that makes doing what you suggest as not necessary.
Field Yates put out a tweet a few days ago I think which showed the rollover amounts for each team and he included in that tweet that after the playoffs the NFL will audit incentives, bonus, etc and re-adjust the roll over amount.
This was a few months ago: https://twitter.com/tompelissero/status/1596959699538038784?s=46&t=a_ODRNwFOfXB4rRB5kj_bQ
eighsse2
Footballguy
Yeah but that's the same incident being referred to now, right? A few posts upthread?
Lol, no. That tweet is dated November 27th.
But wait. Am I the confused one? Is this not new but the video released from his Nov 27th incident? Man, if so I whiffed that, thought this was a second incident.
ETA-confirming I'm the confused one, sorry for the big whiff.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
I understand the rollover and incentive reporting / calculation process as far as transitioning from one year of the salary cap to the next. What I was hypothesizing was whether a team that had no cap room left at the end of the 2022 regular season tried to pull a fast one and give a guy $20 million upfront (to not play in the playoffs) when the salary cap for 2023 hadn't started yet. Since the salary cap from 2022 has already ended and the one for 2023 hasn't started yet, then what? I would guess the $20 million payment would have to be accounted for somewhere in the salary cap . . . but who knows how or which year?
I don't know, I'm still mentally reeling from erroneously thinking Odell had been thrown of a plane twice.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
According to one of the flight attendants, when the police were called he didn’t have his pants on
They did claim that, more then once I think, but he was wearing them when police arrived and my guess is IF he had taken them off earlier he had shorts on. That one flight attendant overreacted big time IMO and she's the one the passengers who had to deplane should have been mad at. Understandable if they could not wake him to call for medical help but you could tell LE did not think there was an issue but let her decide. She went for the full Karen.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Sent a straight-up offer to Calvin Johnson owner.
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
I don't think his career is over.
Weird that he had his sweatpants off, allegedly, while they couldn't wake him up to put on his seat belt. maybe that's a kink, buckle me in baby.
Boone22
Footballguy
I wonder if he’s flying to Arizona…
rockaction
Footballguy
He looked jacked up. First thing I noticed.
TheDirtyWord
Footballguy
He’d be perfect with the Giants. Might be the signing I wish for the most.
If Beckham is willing to accept that he's not going to be a #1, and maybe not even a #2, then I'd have a ton of interest signing him. If he still thinks its 2018 and the Browns tenure had nothing to do with his declining skills, then I'd much rather pursue someone else.
If I were a GM, I'd be treating Beckham pretty similarly to how JuJu was treated last offseason, probably the same for Michael Thomas. Prove it deals.
If I were a GM, I'd be treating Beckham pretty similarly to how JuJu was treated last offseason, probably the same for Michael Thomas. Prove it deals.
-OZ-
Footballguy
For them, absolutely. If I’m OBJ I’m taking less money to play for the chiefs, bills, or any other team with a great QB needing a 2.
I don't think he's going to get it, but when you can hold a private workout in Arizona and close to half the leagues sends a representative during one of their busy times of the year while we are in a depressed FA WR year I can see why he'd shoot high. Not attacking your post but just saying to me that's business, not ego. Kind of like Daniel Jones saying he was looking for $45m and signing for basically $41m.
Todem
Footballguy
Oh I get it. I just think no team will pay anything more than 7-8MM for a 1 year deal. At least I would not.
Of course OBJ still has this idea he is an elite WR…..and he has not had anything close that has resembled a 20MM a year season since 2016. And it has been 3 years of nothing burger production and injuries.
I get the curiosity of NFL teams….why not kick the tires on a guy who had three elite seasons and the last one being now 7 years ago (2016).
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Never under estimate the level of Jerry’s infatuation with “name” WRs
My prediction is he comes in north of $12M with a lot of incentives. Whether that's Jerry or someone else. Just the market. $7-8M a year is what Robert Woods just got and he's a year older and looks shot.
Todem
Footballguy
Fair enough. I think OBJ looked pretty shot the last season he was on the field.....nothing close to that guy in 14-15-16. But someone may overpay for that hope of his old self.
If the Cowboys grab him......ooof good luck. I don’t even think he can even get through an entire season physically.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Oh I agree. I don’t want him unless he comes cheap and that doesn’t sound like it’s going to happen
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Isn’t he more just a name than substance?
