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WR Puka Nacua LAR (4 Viewers)
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Alpha Dawgs
Footballguy
Also drafted him at 1.9 if he wasn't there would have drafted Collins. Rounds 2-3-4 went RB's Henry, K. Williams, Walker III. I'm 4-0 crushing my league.
eighsse2
Footballguy
Pooker Kuppua
Starting to think that without Stafford, Calvin Johnson was JAG.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
That and concussion concerns. Had a scare week 1 IIRC.
Puka's injury chart has alot of red dots. Only 2 as a pro, including a grade 2 PCL last September causing him to miss 6 games.
Let me get the disclaimers out of the way so people don't get twisted that I'm not a fan.
I drafted him on 6 of my 23 redraft teams. Some in round one, some in round early round two. At one point it was 5 out of my first 9 drafts where I had picked him. Had him ranked as my WR3. I ended up intentionally not wanting to draft him any more if I could help it because the reason I do 23 redraft teams is so my season is not shot when a key player or two gets hurt, and I was, and remain, more concerned with Puka's health then Staffords.
Or I could just say see post #1,452 in this thread to let people know how I feel about him.
But I've seen other people say what you are saying about him being the best WR in the NFL or even best player I could not disagree more. Best for fantasy. Yes, clearly. But that's not the same thing. It's the same system that turned Kupp into a triple crown winner and he's never been remotely the best WR in the league. There is no way anyone can convince me if Chase or Jefferson were in his role on this offense they could not do it better.
I'm willing to be convinced on Jefferson. I think (and have always thought) Chase is overrated. Burrow makes him every bit as much (I'd argue more) as the Rams system makes Puka.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
If no injury where is he drafted next year? Top 2-3?
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Long ways to go with this season…
Ilov80s
Footballguy
PPR demon but next year comes with more Stafford worry. You take Matt away and who knows what to make of Puka. Stafford has truly elevated some WRs to levels beyond expectations. I think every receiver who has ever played with him in their prime has had career years, often wildly outperforming what people thought was possible. Calvin, Golladay, Marvin Jones, Golden Tate, Cooper Kupp and now Puka.
rockaction
Footballguy
I think this is an underrated point. These guys are all tied to their QBs in some way. Stafford always just seems like he's around all these great receivers like they fell into his lap and made him great. I've long argued Stafford is a whole lot better than people give him credit for, and it would be hard to convince me he wasn't one of the giants of the game that suffered when Detroit was down as a franchise.
eta* But more to this point. I was breaking down Justin Jefferson when he had to play with McCarthy this year and it was not pretty. Like Chase with Browning. There are very few guys that are quarterback proof or even offensive line proof. You sign up for the whole deal when you draft these guys in FF, and you just hope it breaks right.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Totally agree. If Stafford got drafted to a competent franchise I think he would be seen in a similar view as a Drew Brees or Bret Favre.
Footballdaz
Footballguy
Staffords back and age is what worried me Abt drafting Puka.
Also doubt he has the same chemistry with the back up Bennett. And don't think Stafford makes it through the year..
Puka will be breaking records if Stafford n he stay healthy all year. But long way to go. All it takes is 1 hit.
Back on the sidelines and warming up. Tough dude!
Footballdaz
Footballguy
Just hope he doesn't go in and come out on next play
Krilons Resa
Footballguy
Heal up, Champ!!!
TheDirtyWord
Footballguy
Well timed bye...
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
So who's the pickup if he's out? Atwell (I recall him having a few good games when Kupp was out a few years ago)? Whittington being the more direct replacement? Or none of the above; Stafford will just force feed Davante?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
This is my guess.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
So Puka has a long injury history dating back to college, most of them are lower body issues from the legs down and throw in a concussion.
I am just wondering if anyone else is considering cashing in? I am competing the one league I have him in, but this offseason I plan on shopping him because I think when you factor in all the time missed, plus all these lower body injuries may cut down his prime. Am I crazy?
I am just wondering if anyone else is considering cashing in? I am competing the one league I have him in, but this offseason I plan on shopping him because I think when you factor in all the time missed, plus all these lower body injuries may cut down his prime. Am I crazy?
pinequick
Footballguy
Plus Stafford's age... might consider it.
pinkstapler
Footballguy
What are you selling him for? That's what it comes down to, everyone has a price.
He's on his third season and is a top 3 scoring WR in fantasy since he's come into the league. He played 10 of 17 games last year and still finished a low WR2/high WR3 pending league settings.
Every concern you have is exactly the same as non-owners. So maybe an even better question is, what would you be willing to buy him for? Because I wouldn't expect to sell him for significantly more than you'd be willing to pay for him either. There's also the "retire early" noise that people jumped on from an interview with him in the offseason. Didn't effect my outlook on him, but another thing that someone would probably factor into price if looking to acquire him.
For a reference, I bought him last year after week 3 straight up for Saquon in a dynasty league. I'm in a rebuild so I was happy to shove off Barkley's points as he was going ham, and take on an injured Puka. The other owner needed a RB and was a front runner for the ship before the season started, so Barkley was able to fill a positional need and was putting up more than enough points to replace what he lost when Puka went down. So circumstances determined it a bit (as in all trades), but I also wouldn't expect to get a Jamarr Chase haul for him with the question marks. I would think you could get a semi-lateral move somewhere around JSN. Maybe two late future firsts from a contender if you find the right buyer.
dcgangstas
Footballguy
From FootBallGuys Week 6 Injury Wrap-Up:
To be honest, the video didn't offer much clarity on how or where Nacua injured his ankle. There was no clear mechanism consistent with either a low or high ankle sprain. If this ends up being an ankle contusion, his absence could be short-term. However, it's more likely the injury involves some type of calf strain or a calf-adjacent soft tissue issue, which would typically result in a longer recovery timeline.
Week 7 feels like a long shot for Nacua to return, especially with the added challenge of international travel. The Rams are fortunate to have a bye in Week 8, which could provide him with enough time to fully recover.
WR Puka Nacua, LA Rams | Ankle | Projecting Week 9 Return
Puka Nacua went down with an ankle injury while attempting to haul in a touchdown catch. The injury was initially reported as a "foot injury," but after the game, the Rams provided some clarity, officially diagnosing it as an ankle injury. Nacua did return but served as a decoy, failing to log an additional reception after his injury. Additionally, in Sean McVay's post-game presser, he said that Nacua's availability for next week would be in doubt. In Week 7 the Rams take on Jagaurs during in London.To be honest, the video didn't offer much clarity on how or where Nacua injured his ankle. There was no clear mechanism consistent with either a low or high ankle sprain. If this ends up being an ankle contusion, his absence could be short-term. However, it's more likely the injury involves some type of calf strain or a calf-adjacent soft tissue issue, which would typically result in a longer recovery timeline.
Week 7 feels like a long shot for Nacua to return, especially with the added challenge of international travel. The Rams are fortunate to have a bye in Week 8, which could provide him with enough time to fully recover.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
It’s why I sold in both leagues I had him last off-season.
The other concern is his comments regarding concussions. He suffered a significant one, and said he’s going to stop playing football by 30 because he wants to have a big family and doesn’t want to risk his brain for football.
so that’s 5 more years. Which is a fine window of time to compete with him, but may make it extraordinarily difficult to move him when he’s 28 or 29, assuming he’s still healthy.
The bigger issue to me is what happens if he gets his bell seriously rung again? Form his comments it sounded like he could hang em up at any time if he feels his mentals are in jeopardy.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
It is a super flex league with a large starting lineup so depth is key. I would probably ask for two young players a tier or two below him.
BespokeJort
Footballguy
Two late firsts feels cheap to me. I have some concerns but I’d buy him for that
Hu-Tang Clan
Footballguy
And as a Puka owner, I would never sell him for that.
pinkstapler
Footballguy
Agree I was just trying to think what I'd buy him for, and I don't think it would be significantly more than that.
In the dynasty league I owned him I was super deep at WR and needed to move 1 because of position limits. Got a first next year (likely to be top 6) and moved up to get Hampton in this draft (I am super weak at RB). I tried but didnt get a sniff at more than that.
Injust history is one thing (and I try to see it as just that - history) , but, the potential Stafford retiral isn't helping either.
pinkstapler
Footballguy
That feels fair; I'm a bit lower on next years class as of now, but with a top 6 pick even in a weak class you are pretty much locked to get a stud prospect.
Boone22
Footballguy
No way I move Puca for either of those offers. He’s the #1 scoring WR in the league right now and he’s only 24. No way two later firsts gets it done and a top 6 pick wouldn’t either. Best case you end up with a guy that’s equal or slightly below what Puca is doing right now and that,s the absolute BEST case. Most likely you end up with a solid but not spectacular player.
I feel like I’m in the younger version of the CMC thread.
pinkstapler
Footballguy
No way I move Puca for either of those offers. He’s the #1 scoring WR in the league right now and he’s only 24. No way two later firsts gets it done and a top 6 pick wouldn’t either. Best case you end up with a guy that’s equal or slightly below what Puca is doing right now and that,s the absolute BEST case. Most likely you end up with a solid but not spectacular player.
I feel like I’m in the younger version of the CMC thread.
That was from January. I'm with you.
And like I said a few months ago after the interview that caused the "retiring early" scare, it's a nothingburger because few, if any, owners are selling him at a discount, even with their injury or retirement concerns. It's not that they aren't legitimate concerns, but they are the same types of things anyone brings up on any player they are negotiating to buy. Whether it's done intentionally or just subconsciously, it's part of the dickering a deal that just always happens when talking trades with league mates.
I DO think buyers aren't paying significantly more than what was posted in the thread though. But that probably has less to do with Puka specifically and more the fact people generally overvalue future draft picks, and Puka is cresting that tier of players where the cost to acquire them is still detrimental to the sustainability of your fantasy team. At least IMO. I've rarely seen an elite player bought for multiple early future picks wind up being worth it to the buyer, especially 2-3 seasons down the road. Normally takes a non-competitive/casual league and/or a lot of luck breaking their way.
It was tough. I wont lie. But I have Puca/BTR/Nico/MHJr/Pickens and can only start 3. Needed upgrade badly at RB. So now I get Hampton and Rb next year. Was my only solution.No way I move Puca for either of those offers. He’s the #1 scoring WR in the league right now and he’s only 24. No way two later firsts gets it done and a top 6 pick wouldn’t either. Best case you end up with a guy that’s equal or slightly below what Puca is doing right now and that,s the absolute BEST case. Most likely you end up with a solid but not spectacular player.
I feel like I’m in the younger version of the CMC thread.
And I have no idea who Rams QB will be next year........
Yes I wanted more but it just wasnt there.
pinkstapler
Footballguy
Yeah I think the other poster might have missed that you didn't JUST get an early first next year, but that you also moved up in this years draft. Probably pretty high to get Hampton, I'd guess you grabbed him at 1.02/1.03?It was tough. I wont lie. But I have Puca/BTR/Nico/MHJr/Pickens and can only start 3. Needed upgrade badly at RB. So now I get Hampton and Rb next year. Was my only solution.No way I move Puca for either of those offers. He’s the #1 scoring WR in the league right now and he’s only 24. No way two later firsts gets it done and a top 6 pick wouldn’t either. Best case you end up with a guy that’s equal or slightly below what Puca is doing right now and that,s the absolute BEST case. Most likely you end up with a solid but not spectacular player.
I feel like I’m in the younger version of the CMC thread.
And I have no idea who Rams QB will be next year........
Yes I wanted more but it just wasnt there.
I think it's most likely feeding Davante with more Whittington but I think there is a chance for a Terrance Ferguson coming out party.
