What's new
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums

Welcome to Our Forums. Once you've registered and logged in, you're primed to talk football, among other topics, with the sharpest and most experienced fantasy players on the internet.

WR Sammy Watkins, BAL (1 Viewer)

Orchard Park, N.Y. — The Buffalo Bills have played it safe with wide receiver Sammy Watkins all offseason, and they hope the payoff is coming.

Rex Ryan said Monday the Bills have seen enough from Watkins in his limited preseason action to hold him out in the finale against the Lions. Watkins, who had foot surgery in the offseason, is confident he would be able to play if the Bills' Week 1 game against the Baltimore Ravens was this weekend.

Watkins cracked a smile when asked that very question on Monday.

"Yeah, I would score a couple touchdowns," Watkins said with a laugh. "I could go out there and compete and make the plays presented to me. That's the thing with having practiced and getting those reps with Tyrod (Taylor). Getting full speed reps helps me. It doesn't help me I go out there and do things 80 percent or 85. I'm a full speed guy. Right now, I'm trying to get that full speed mentality.

"You can't simulate that but I go against some of the top guys I think, Darby and Stephon Gilmore. I'm not worried about getting open when it's time to play in the game. More so, I need to get in shape, game shape. That's what I'm doing in practice. I'm just going six or seven reps in a row, four plays in a row. And I wasn't doing that in camp. I was going one play here, one play there. I was like, 'Coach, I need to be out there.' In camp I might only need one play, but now I need every rep."
Click to expand...
http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2016/08/buffalo_bills_wr_sammy_watkins_says_hes_ready_to_catch_a_couple_tds_against_rave.html

 
Got Sammy after the bye last year. He was a beast and healthy so I was spoiled.

Back on the train this season, prepared to be teased and let down.

 
I love the talent.  Have since he was a freshman at Clemson.  

But something about him makes me want to stay away, at least at his ADP.  Haven't had any of my drafts yet but in mocks I consistently pass on him.  Not sure if its the run heavy offense, the injury history, playing in BUF in the winter, or what.  But I cant quite get fully on board yet. Maybe my mind will be changed in the next week.

 
VaTerp said:
I love the talent.  Have since he was a freshman at Clemson.  

But something about him makes me want to stay away, at least at his ADP.  Haven't had any of my drafts yet but in mocks I consistently pass on him.  Not sure if its the run heavy offense, the injury history, playing in BUF in the winter, or what.  But I cant quite get fully on board yet. Maybe my mind will be changed in the next week.
Click to expand...
He's among the riskier of the top 10 wrs.  He also has the most headroom in that he hasn't yet shown us his ceiling, but of course that leads us to wonder if he will ever get there.  

I like that kind of guy in fantasy.  Grab the guys with head room as that variability will lead me to a 1st place or last place finish-- there's no reward for finishing in the middle, right?

 
Tango said:
He's among the riskier of the top 10 wrs.  He also has the most headroom in that he hasn't yet shown us his ceiling, but of course that leads us to wonder if he will ever get there.  

I like that kind of guy in fantasy.  Grab the guys with head room as that variability will lead me to a 1st place or last place finish-- there's no reward for finishing in the middle, right?
Click to expand...
I agree. I chose him over more consistent PPR stalwarts Edelman and Landry. 

Having gotten Antonio at 1.01, I felt Sammy's upside was worth the risk. 

And I too like to swing for the fences and have enough high-upside guys to compete for a title in December. 

 
Damn.  Injury concern was one of the reasons I couldnt buy in this year but this doesnt sound good at all.

Not only for Watkins owners but McCoy and Taylor owners as well.

 
I'm not saying it isn't true, but Manish Mehta is a hack who is known for spewing #### under the guise of "unnamed sources."  Rex is denying it fwiw:

http://bills.buffalonews.com/2016/09/12/report-sammy-watkins-miss-weeks-even-entire-season-foot-pain/

After the game, Bills coach Rex Ryan maintained that he thought Watkins was healthy.

“I don’t know where that comes from,” he said of the report.

According to the Daily News' Manish Mehta, X-rays did not reveal a new break, but "the feeling now is whether Watkins can manage the pain in his foot. There was a fear on Sunday night that the wideout could miss the rest of the season. Medical personnel, including renowned foot specialist Robert Anderson, have advised Watkins against a surgical remedy for the issue at this time. It's possible, however, that Watkins could be shut down for several weeks, or possibly longer, depending on how his foot responds in the coming days."
Click to expand...
Why is Mehta the only one with this report?  How is it that a Jets beat writer got this info and no national or local Bills guys have it?  

I don't own Watkins and I am a Jets fan, not a Bills fan, but this smells a bit fishy and as mentioned Mehta is a weasel.  

 
zeeshan2 said:
Ian Rapoport


 
✔ @RapSheet



#Bills WR Sammy Watkins will likely have to play through pain this year. Nothing surgically to do. #Bills don’t plan on shutting him down.


10:15 AM - 12 Sep 2016





Ian Rapoport


 
✔ @RapSheet



At one point last night, the #Bills thought Sammy Watkins had re-broken his foot or the screw. Not the case. Now it’s pain management.


10:17 AM - 12 Sep 2016
Click to expand...
Yeah weird that in that other article that rex knew nothing about missing time or a shut down. We shall see

 
Bills coach Rex Ryan says Sammy Watkins (foot) is "sore," but that the team has no plans to shut him down.
"Hopefully he'll progress through the week and be ready," Ryan said of Watkins' Week 2 outlook. "I'm confident he'll be OK." Clearly Watkins' status shouldn't be taken for granted, but it seems more likely than not that he suits up against the Jets on Thursday. The problem, of course, is that Watkins has played at less than 100 percent many times in the past, and often hasn't been effective. He's shaping up as a boom-or-bust WR2 until he gets over the residual soreness from his spring foot injury.

 
 
Source: Bills on Twitter 
Sep 12 - 2:48 PM
Click to expand...
 
Moved him for Cobb and a 2017 2nd rounder.  After losing Allen as well, I need something that won't get hurt.

 
As a Sammy owner in a salary cap league where I own him at $22 for 4 years ($200 total cap), I'm trying not to sell low. This is a critical decision point for trading Watkins with the Jets tonight, then Arizona, then the Pats.  Aside from the injury, the Bills offense is a mess. I am wondering what other owners are doing with Watkins.  Is he a hold or sell low? If selling low, in dynasty, what are people getting for him? 

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Can a Bill's fan tell me how he looked last Sunday? I've conflicting reports. He has the most snaps but "looked a shadow of himself." If that statement is true then he needs to be benched but if he was his explosive self an djust has to mange the pain then you have to start him no?

 
I'd almost prefer to see that he's hurt and it's a couple weeks rest. If he's only got a "tired" foot and the Bills suck Cleveland/Baltimore like then the prospects seem more dire.

Either way I can't see selling him for peanuts to anyone but a out of touch  0-2 owner. 75% of this kid is better than anything you'll likely get in a trade if he's hurt. Like God's Brother said, if you feel you need to move him rather than wait and see, you have to wait for a big game (preferably this week) and flip him while you can. The longer he puts up stinkers the less likely you'll get anything more than pocket lint for him

 
Kwai Chang Caine said:
Can a Bill's fan tell me how he looked last Sunday? I've conflicting reports. He has the most snaps but "looked a shadow of himself." If that statement is true then he needs to be benched but if he was his explosive self an djust has to mange the pain then you have to start him no?
Click to expand...
i was watching several games so can't speak to the whole game, but saw him twist up defenders two times. he looked excellent from what i saw. but admittedly, there wasn't a lot to see as the bills offense only had 5 passing first downs and gained 160 total yards. they were basically three and outing it the whole game.

i'd say if he plays, you still start him.

 
Gandalf said:
As a Sammy owner in a salary cap league where I own him at $22 for 4 years ($200 total cap), I'm trying not to sell low. This is a critical decision point for trading Watkins with the Jets tonight, then Arizona, then the Pats.  Aside from the injury, the Bills offense is a mess. I am wondering what other owners are doing with Watkins.  Is he a hold or sell low? If selling low, in dynasty, what are people getting for him? 
Click to expand...
at 10% of the cap for four years, sammy is a firm hold. that's a great contract through the sweetheart of his twenties. his value will definitely be higher some point in the next four years than it is right now, even if this whole season is a bust.

 
Bracie Smathers said:
Josina Anderson ‏@JosinaAnderson  1h1 hour ago
Source on #Bills WR Sammy Watkins' (foot) availability Thurs. night: "He wants to play but i'm not sure if the docs are going to let him."
Click to expand...
Getting that rotten feeling that he will be gutting it out (struggling) on a weekly basis until week 10-11 and then the Bills finally shut him down once out of playoff contention.

I completely blew it on this "pins in the foot" thing... should have caught that... the Spidey sense was tingling, much like Watkins foot on a Monday.

 
Worst fear for me is that he's "active" but only as a decoy... I'd rather he be a no-go and bench him for one of my far inferior bench options than have him be a "?" and get a zero.

 
So what decisions are people making on Sammy?  Auto-start if he plays?

I find it helps to hear others decision making process in these situations.  

Barring a miraculous report on Sammy's health prior to kickoff I think I am going to bench him as one of my flex RB/WR.  I am either going with Tajae Sharpe or Yeldon over him, not sure which one yet because I don't need to make that decision until Sunday morning.  No need to tell me if you agree/disagree or who you would start of TS or Yeldon, I am not a WDIS start guy.  I am just telling you all what I am doing, and am happy to expand on why if you want.  

However I would love to hear some of the decisions others are making with Sammy.

 
Chaka said:
However I would love to hear some of the decisions others are making with Sammy.
Click to expand...


i'm sitting him for emmanuel sanders at the moment. i'll check in to see how he "looks" in warmups. not a fan of benching high end FF guys this early in the year, but i consider sanders a pretty decent option. but once any good news comes out in the hour up to the game or the first "he looks healthy!" from a sideline reporter, i'll probably put him back in...

 
rfking1120 said:
I'm starting Simms over him at Flex . Simply can't risk the decoy/tapping out/ zero point risk
Click to expand...
Part of my logic for benching Sammy definitely relates to the possibility of him 'tapping out' as you say.  Also the fact that offense looked horrible last week.  And I fear Buffalo may be imploding under the weight of Rex's ego.

 
Kevin White, Devante Parker, Devin Funchess or Quincy Enunwa.

Or Virgil Green/Bilal Powell in another.

Both are 12 team deep roster dynasty with 1.5 te ppr.

 
I don't on any shares of Watkins but I feel for the decision that owners have to make tonight.  My advice is this: evaluate your fantasy matchup if you are in a head to head league and factor that in your decision.   If you look at your opponents roster and look at yours--and feel like you need upside to win--you may want to consider starting him. If you feel like you have the superior team--or if it's fairly evenly balanced--and getting a  zero will almost certainly cause you to lose--I'd lean towards a safer option this week.   Either way--it's tough situation to be in--but hopefully this information is useful to at least one person in it.  

 
I think Moncrief is a must start over Sammy, right? This situation is so confusing. I honestly want him to have a good game so I can just trade him and move on. Love what he can do, but there's just too much negativity with his foot and the team.

 
3 leagues

1. playing Gio over Watkins

2. Could play any of the following: Cook, Forsett, Inman, Kerley leaning Inman

3. Could play : Sims, Wheaton, C. Coleman, leaning Sims

 
Ilov80s said:
I think Moncrief is a must start over Sammy, right? This situation is so confusing. I honestly want him to have a good game so I can just trade him and move on. Love what he can do, but there's just too much negativity with his foot and the team.
Click to expand...
For me , yes, Moncrief, right now.

the whole Thursday night crap scares me every time too, low over/under, no good vibes coming from the Bills, I love Sammy when healthy but I am leaning to sitting him.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Two leagues. In one its ppr and as of now Wallace is in. In big money standard Fitz over him but I'm a severe underdog this week. Bonus for 100 yards. I feel I need his upside but scared.

 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

massraider
WR Jermaine Burton, CIN
Replies
40
Views
2K
jm192
jm192
Yogibear
Jimmy E. Johnson passes away at age 86
Replies
9
Views
474
JohnnyU
JohnnyU
greenmountaingoat
Ainias Smith-WR- Eagles
Replies
10
Views
498
greenmountaingoat
greenmountaingoat

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 2 (members: 0, guests: 2)
Top