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WR Stefon Diggs, NE (4 Viewers)

Gandalf said:
Haha okay that’s true. Doesn’t everyone gets hurt in the NFL?
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Yes, but don't you prefer the ones that are simply in or out? These types of injuries are the worst. Can't stash him in your IR spot, don't know if you can trust him if he does play...

 
Magic_Man said:
I just turned down an offer of Kelce straight up for my Diggs in dynasty PPR. I have Gronk already. I could flex Kelce or then try to move Gronk straight up for another WR, but I like Diggs more. Maybe I'm nuts.
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I like Kelce a lot so I think thats a pretty fair offer.

Probably would stick with Diggs though. To me thats pretty even and just depends on how much you value having a top TE. I think I over value TEs a bit.

 
FF Ninja said:
Yes, but don't you prefer the ones that are simply in or out? These types of injuries are the worst. Can't stash him in your IR spot, don't know if you can trust him if he does play...
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Yes and no. I think it shows Diggs is a gamer who wants to play. There’s value in that character trait

 
Gandalf said:
Yes and no. I think it shows Diggs is a gamer who wants to play. There’s value in that character trait
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I like your "glass half full" attitude, but I think probably around 95% of NFL player are gamers who are willing to play through injury. For fantasy purposes, I prefer those without groin, hamstring, or calf issues. Don't get me wrong - I think Diggs was good value this year, but I'm still a little depressed thinking what could have been if he and Bradford stayed healthy.

 
FF Ninja said:
I like your "glass half full" attitude, but I think probably around 95% of NFL player are gamers who are willing to play through injury. For fantasy purposes, I prefer those without groin, hamstring, or calf issues. Don't get me wrong - I think Diggs was good value this year, but I'm still a little depressed thinking what could have been if he and Bradford stayed healthy.
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Ha are you serious? A lot of guys sit out until they feel 100%.

 
FF Ninja said:
Yes, I'm serious. Have you never heard interviews with players about injuries? They say that just about everyone on the roster is nursing some sort of injury by mid-season.
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Oh man. What do you expect them to say, ‘I wanted an off week so am playing up this injury’. Lots of people talk the talk, Diggs walks the walk

 
Gandalf said:
Oh man. What do you expect them to say, ‘I wanted an off week so am playing up this injury’. Lots of people talk the talk, Diggs walks the walk
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...with a noticeable limp.  :P

But seriously, these guys weren't talking about themselves. They were talking about teammates that played 16 games. Everybody plays through injuries in the NFL. Some injuries you can play through effectively (pain management), and other injuries are more debilitating. I don't think Diggs is special in regard to playing through injuries. Unfortunately, his injuries are debilitating and he'd be better off waiting until fully healed. 

 
FF Ninja said:
...with a noticeable limp.  :P

But seriously, these guys weren't talking about themselves. They were talking about teammates that played 16 games. Everybody plays through injuries in the NFL. Some injuries you can play through effectively (pain management), and other injuries are more debilitating. I don't think Diggs is special in regard to playing through injuries. Unfortunately, his injuries are debilitating and he'd be better off waiting until fully healed. 
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Hahaha

I agree some guys play through injuries but some don’t as much for whatever reason. Well looks like the team is being more cautious with him this year. I’m just saying that I’m not downgrading Diggs because he tries to play through things. I’d rather have that then be alternative. 

 
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My concern is not that he is playing thru things it's that he may not be effective unless he is 100%...and being 100% does not happen too often in the NFL...

 
Boston said:
My concern is not that he is playing thru things it's that he may not be effective unless he is 100%...and being 100% does not happen too often in the NFL...
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I think you are correct about the groin injury. I would be hesitant to start him this week. In dynasty I’m trying to buy him at a discount from frustrated owners

 
Gandalf said:
I think you are correct about the groin injury. I would be hesitant to start him this week. In dynasty I’m trying to buy him at a discount from frustrated owners
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Someone mentioned Isaac Bruce and there are shades of that right now...was frustrating early but then got it figured out...as someone who owns Diggs I am real frustrated and the QB situation adds another layer but there are no questions he is a legit talent...

 
Wasn't actively shopping him, but someone made me an offer, and I'm starting to wonder if it might be better to dump the weekly agita of this injury situation (both his and Bradford's) to shore up my RBs.

 
This is an article mostly about Teddy, but there is some information that states Diggs was limited in today's practice.

A pair of injured Vikings took positive steps Thursday as Diggs and Anthony Barr participated in practice, though Diggs was limited during the team’s individual drills.

Sam Bradford was absent for a second straight day, while Nick Easton and Michael Floyd were present but did not participate.
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mnmplayer said:
I like that he will not play. Sit tight and get right.
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Agreed.

The Vikings have been a bit quicker with announcing players will be out or not recently instead of the Jedi mind tricks of Zimmer that I have gotten used to.

Zimmer really doesn't like talking to the media about anything useful.

 
BobbyLayne said:
Am I wrong to think the Vikings sans Diggs are not nearly as potent? 
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No you are correct the Vikings offense is much better with a healthy Diggs in the line up. A injured Diggs playing decoy doesn't really help though. The defense figures that out fairly quickly and adjusts their coverage that otherwise would be more focused on stopping Diggs.

I know Case Keenum is not the same turnover machine he was in L.A. but I don't see him making plays.
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There have definitely been some throws that could have led to interceptions by Keenum that didn't. He has been somewhat lucky so far in that regard. The Ravens defense is good and Weddle is a ball hawk who won't miss such opportunities when presented to him the way other defensive backs have.

Can McKinnon continue his hot streak and get 20-22 touches?
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Yes I believe he can. McKinnon is a big part of the passing game and will be relevant throughout. Personally I wish the Vikings would scale back the opportunities they have given to Murray. Those are mostly wasted plays in my opinion that they could be getting the ball to someone else.

Is Rudolph ever getting back to what he was last year?
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No last season was an anomoly due to Bradford getting the ball out so quickly and opting to check down to Rudolph so often, which defenses were allowing, because most of the time it was not moving the chains. 

The last two weeks Keenum has done a better job of getting the ball to Rudolph, but they haven't had the same chemistry and timing as Bradford had with Rudolph. Bradford is just more accurate than Keenum is overall, has better ball placement. Keenum throws behind Rudolph and his throws to him have been a bit worse than some of the throws to other players. Maybe that is just random, but part of it is Rudolph doesn't make those difficult catches the way Theilen has and even Treadwell has.

Can Thielen be a true WR1 with Floyd also banged up (did well v. GB)?
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Yes. Theilen has been the Vikings best WR with DIggs out and should continue to be. There have been some plays where Theilen was wide open but Case Keenum doesn't see it, even though Theilen should be his first read on most plays without DIggs.

Anyway, I like the Ravens DT in this matchup.
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They are a good defense and Keenum could turn the ball over. McKinnon has put the ball on the ground as well.

The Vikings are at home though and have the crowd at their side. I am seeing this game as likely a defensive battle where neither offense does that much.

 
So......anyone hearing anything about his availability this week or is the assumption he will be held out through the bye?

 
I'm torn. I do want him to rest up and get right. But I also do not want to have to start Jordan Matthews this weekend.  :help:

 
Stefon Diggs and Nick Easton getting in work with position groups this AM before #Vikings jet to London.
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https://twitter.com/Andrew_Krammer/status/923213027322814465

With the adjusted practice schedule because of the flight to London, I imagine this week we won't really know his true practice participation until Friday. Getting in limited work today, this time with the position group (as opposed to individual drills, which is all he had done the past few weeks), so at least the progress is encouraging.

 
Weebs210 said:
Man I could really use him this week or I will have to drop Shepard for a bye week fill....
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My totally uneducated guess is that, were this game stateside, he would have suited up for the game. With the adjusted practice/rehab schedule due to the flight, and the concerns that the London field doesn't provide the same level of traction that team's generally hope for (totally unsubstantiated hearsay), I think it's closer to a 50/50 shot he plays this weekend (leaning towards him being inactive).

Totally uneducated guess, but I'm planning as if I won't have him.

 
WRs coming off of >1 missed game due to a lower extremity injury, traveling to London, playing in a favorable match up against a team below .500, and have a 1 syllable last name put up historically, on average, 5/38/0.15

Start with caution

 
I think its a good sign that Diggs is traveling with the team. If they were planning to rest him again this week and then through the bye week, then they likely wouldn't have had him travel.

Still up in the air though. Based on Zimmers tone it was up beat, so he sounded optimistic about it, but he didn't commit to it either.

 
Dr. Dan said:
WRs coming off of >1 missed game due to a lower extremity injury, traveling to London, playing in a favorable match up against a team below .500, and have a 1 syllable last name put up historically, on average, 5/38/0.15

Start with caution
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What type of sample size are we talking here?

 
The Vikes’ bye is week 9.  They’d be idiotic to play him against the sorry Browns instead of letting him have an extra 2 weeks to fully heal.

 
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Weebs210 said:
This sucks though. Now I have to wake up at 8:20 to see if he is active.
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Funny. Here I am thinking I won't have to wait until 11:30 to see if someone's active. I'll be up at 6 or 7. Can set my lineup at breakfast as Diggs is my only questionable this week. Joys of kids I guess. 

 
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