massraider
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He’s unhappy about something
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WR Stefon Diggs, NE (2 Viewers)
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Donnybrook
Footballguy
Funny how things come full circle. I remember when Mike Wallace held out of OTAs wanting a new contract and eventually left as UFA to sign a huge deal with Miami. Wallace got a lot of hate from the Pittsburgh faithful. On the contrary, the fans had major love for Antonio Brown who was on a cheap rookie contract. AB was considered the less egotistical and better prospect. I remember comparing Stefon Diggs in his rookie year to AB because they were both 5th round picks with he had that kind of upside.
Now, AB is considered the biggest diva or headcase of all wide receivers and Diggs is also getting that label.
Now, AB is considered the biggest diva or headcase of all wide receivers and Diggs is also getting that label.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Seems pretty insane given how many targets and how much success Diggs has had since joining the Bills. That said, Diggs has always had a reputation as a classic WR (think TO, 85, Moss) who can be temperamental. I am a little worried.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Yep but that's just who he is. The Bills knew this when they traded for him. There is a reason he went to Maryland, fell in the draft, wasn't made a long term franchise piece for the Vikings,etc.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Is it really the best chance he’ll have at a Super Bowl? Allen regressed once Daboll left for the Giants. Buffalo is on the downswing. Maybe Diggs is the NFLs version of Jimmy Butler — he can sniff out inferiority.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Squeaky wheel always gets the grease, especially WRs.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Yes, it is his best chance.
What other SB calibre team has cap space for a Diggs on the roster?
I don't know if they're on the downswing or not, but they're still easily a top 3, if not top 5 SB pick
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
I don’t know. Josh Allen regressed a lot, and Daboll turned Daniel Jones into a competent QB. Buffalo looked lost on offense far too often last year.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Its possible that Diggs discontent with the new coaching and scheme is correct, as far as what would make him the most productive for the team, even if he is not handling it in the right way.
I say this just based on what happened previously with the Vikings and how well he performed after the change of scene.
None of really know what is really going on though. Its all speculation.
I say this just based on what happened previously with the Vikings and how well he performed after the change of scene.
None of really know what is really going on though. Its all speculation.
Allen has regressed from his phenomenal 2020 season, but 2021 was still with Daboll. He actually did slightly better in 2022 in his first year without him, and that was while he was playing through an injured throwing elbow. The offense overall was just as good as well.
The Bills have the 3rd highest odds to win the SB this year so it's pretty clearly one of his best chances at winning. Daboll is a good coach but they're fine without him.
The Duff Man
Footballguy
Agreed. The regression narrative is way off base. At least for Allen.
If you want to argue the offence regressed you could, but that was largely after the Allen injury also. Hard to tell what was “defences figuring out the OC”, what was “Allen” and what was “injury”.
It has been reported that Allen couldn’t make the short throws with the injury and that definitely shows up in how Cincy played them defensively in the playoffs.
On the Diggs point, if what is reported is accurate it is dumb on his part.
If you want to argue the offence regressed you could, but that was largely after the Allen injury also. Hard to tell what was “defences figuring out the OC”, what was “Allen” and what was “injury”.
It has been reported that Allen couldn’t make the short throws with the injury and that definitely shows up in how Cincy played them defensively in the playoffs.
On the Diggs point, if what is reported is accurate it is dumb on his part.
dipandglide
Footballguy
He's being insecure. King Kincaid is the new big dog in town!
Fantasy 101....never bench your studs.
efactor
Footballguy
He did that in 2022 playing with an injured QB for half the season. I put him in that first tier of WRs.
Honestly, I think there is upside from that.
I've got Diggs as WR3, his numbers really fell off after Allen hurt his elbow, but now that he's 100%, I wouldn't be shocked if Diggs had a career season. Diggs was on pace for 136-1861-13 prior to Allen's injury.
Allen's pre-injury pace was 5162-38 passing and 899-8 rushing. So, he was very clearly affected by the injury, and Diggs suffered a bit.
Not saying bench, but lowered expectations may be appropriate.
Debating Diggs or B. Robinson if both are there at pick 7 in a 12 team PPR league.
TampaMike19
Footballguy
What is he doing? Looks like very low yards per target. Force fed? I mean does this team have a consistent wr core outside of him?
Or the fact Allen missed him several times.
fightingillini
Footballguy
Maybe the Giants defense rose to the occasion. They played great. This was a classic trap game that the Bills were lucky to win.
They don't. Gabe Davis can pop off, but he's ideally more of a #3 WR. Knox is the definition of mediocre, and Kincaid is a rookie TE. Everyone else is backup caliber. They would honestly make a lot of sense in a potential Jeudy trade, but its also possible they don't see this as a real problem and would rather just be patient with Kincaid.
Giants also blitz like crazy, leaving their CBs in man, so Diggs 1-1 with any CB is probably a win for Diggs more often than not.
efactor
Footballguy
Was surprised they didn't throw a single pass to their RBs last night. Hardy lined up in the backfield on the TD catch, but Allen didn't even look to Cook or Murray for checkdowns. Just seems really odd since Cook was effective in the first few games in the passing game.
Diggs "demanding" the ball isn't the issue. He is so much better than any other receiver they have and probably gets frustrated when their offense bogs down like it did last night. Luckily for the Bills, the Giants are so inept on offense that they got away with a win despite playing a really bad offensive game. Like most elite receivers, he seems fine with others getting as long as the offense is lighting it up but becomes agitated when they are aren't. AJ Brown did the same thing a few weeks back.
Hartliner
Footballguy
Added to injury report!?! This week stinks
Heisenberg23
Footballguy
indeed. i have higgins and collins (both hurt) and devonta (bye) for week 10 - fun times!
Insein
Footballguy
Yea I have Higgins too. I do have Shakir as kind of a handcuff for Diggs. At least I can throw him in on Monday if the worst happens.
Hartliner
Footballguy
He's never lied to me before
Dez
Footballguy
How come we get so many conflicting reports do people feel like they have to jump the gun on reporting or what ? This has happened over and over this year.
First the report was Diggs did not practice then we get one he did and not only that he was removed from injury report.
Bills WR Stefon Diggs (back) did not practice Saturday but told reporters he “100%" expects to play in Week 10. 1 hour ago
Bills removed WR Stefon Diggs (back) from the injury report Saturday.
Diggs got in consecutive limited sessions on Friday and Saturday before being removed from the injury report entirely, 15 mins ago
First the report was Diggs did not practice then we get one he did and not only that he was removed from injury report.
Bills WR Stefon Diggs (back) did not practice Saturday but told reporters he “100%" expects to play in Week 10. 1 hour ago
Bills removed WR Stefon Diggs (back) from the injury report Saturday.
Diggs got in consecutive limited sessions on Friday and Saturday before being removed from the injury report entirely, 15 mins ago
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Josh seems to be struggling going downfield, if he's not a threat to go deep, makes covering the intermediate easier I would guess.
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Insein
Footballguy
Idk. Was forced to start Shakir in the flex so I got the points he should have had.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
This was always a tough matchup for him. No concern. Yet.
Down Under
Footballguy
TampaMike19
Footballguy
Bad week for some alphas. Should be ok but idk- last year he was hot then cold down the stretch
jm192
Footballguy
Really tough matchup. I'll hold off on worrying for now.
