Antes in poker have always been a giant pain in the arse.whatever the BB is you have to double it to pay the ante
I watched Wasnock go all in with JJ vs AA a couple days back and he spiked the Jack and managed to stay alive, I would not have put him on the final table but good for him
Yeah saw this on FB Reels. What a dooshcanoe.Finally. Adios.
They're now in their 30s.Interesting for the final table there are three people in their 30s, five people in their 40s, and one 50 year old dude.
What happened to all those young hotshot dudes in their 20s that usually hit the final table.
I agree, it's refreshing to see some of the 40+ crowd on the final table, doesn't appear like there is anyone trying to be the youngest to ever win the MEInteresting for the final table there are three people in their 30s, five people in their 40s, and one 50 year old dude.
What happened to all those young hotshot dudes in their 20s that usually hit the final table.
Speaking as an amateur who used to play pretty regularly in deep stack tournaments in fields with professionals,* the bold was always my strategy against the known pros.I agree, it's refreshing to see some of the 40+ crowd on the final table, doesn't appear like there is anyone trying to be the youngest to ever win the MEInteresting for the final table there are three people in their 30s, five people in their 40s, and one 50 year old dude.
What happened to all those young hotshot dudes in their 20s that usually hit the final table.
There are exceptions but many of the ME winners over the past 20+ years don't always go on to multiple bracelets.
The professionals IMHO should not 3-bet as often and realize thru many hands they can replay off Poker Go coverage that a lot of these 3-bets involve Ace-suited or AQo/AJo near the button
I know limping is frowned upon but this might be the best spot to try it a few times and not have to shove all in for a coin flip pre-flop which brings up another point I want to discuss. it would appear many of the players do not trust their skills post flop where as I believe Mizrachi could be the best post flop player left but can he ever see a flop?
It's too quick all in and I think several of the remaining players do not trust their post flop skills.
Steer clear of the all in pre flop if you can avoid it
That brings up some questionable practices, would be nice to know who has what stakes in which players right nowSpeaking as an amateur who used to play pretty regularly in deep stack tournaments in fields with professionals,* the bold was always my strategy against the known pros.I agree, it's refreshing to see some of the 40+ crowd on the final table, doesn't appear like there is anyone trying to be the youngest to ever win the MEInteresting for the final table there are three people in their 30s, five people in their 40s, and one 50 year old dude.
What happened to all those young hotshot dudes in their 20s that usually hit the final table.
There are exceptions but many of the ME winners over the past 20+ years don't always go on to multiple bracelets.
The professionals IMHO should not 3-bet as often and realize thru many hands they can replay off Poker Go coverage that a lot of these 3-bets involve Ace-suited or AQo/AJo near the button
I know limping is frowned upon but this might be the best spot to try it a few times and not have to shove all in for a coin flip pre-flop which brings up another point I want to discuss. it would appear many of the players do not trust their skills post flop where as I believe Mizrachi could be the best post flop player left but can he ever see a flop?
It's too quick all in and I think several of the remaining players do not trust their post flop skills.
Steer clear of the all in pre flop if you can avoid it
*There were actually two pros that invited me into their prize sharing/chop agreement over time when they realized I could play disciplined enough. They were very adamant and clear that my two "musts" for my play to be able to chop with them was that I played only small pots in the beginning of the tournament playing only A10suited or better and that if I got up against a known pro after the cutoff that I either folded or shoved.
Yeah the side agreements always complicate things.That brings up some questionable practices, would be nice to know who has what stakes in which players right nowSpeaking as an amateur who used to play pretty regularly in deep stack tournaments in fields with professionals,* the bold was always my strategy against the known pros.I agree, it's refreshing to see some of the 40+ crowd on the final table, doesn't appear like there is anyone trying to be the youngest to ever win the MEInteresting for the final table there are three people in their 30s, five people in their 40s, and one 50 year old dude.
What happened to all those young hotshot dudes in their 20s that usually hit the final table.
There are exceptions but many of the ME winners over the past 20+ years don't always go on to multiple bracelets.
The professionals IMHO should not 3-bet as often and realize thru many hands they can replay off Poker Go coverage that a lot of these 3-bets involve Ace-suited or AQo/AJo near the button
I know limping is frowned upon but this might be the best spot to try it a few times and not have to shove all in for a coin flip pre-flop which brings up another point I want to discuss. it would appear many of the players do not trust their skills post flop where as I believe Mizrachi could be the best post flop player left but can he ever see a flop?
It's too quick all in and I think several of the remaining players do not trust their post flop skills.
Steer clear of the all in pre flop if you can avoid it
*There were actually two pros that invited me into their prize sharing/chop agreement over time when they realized I could play disciplined enough. They were very adamant and clear that my two "musts" for my play to be able to chop with them was that I played only small pots in the beginning of the tournament playing only A10suited or better and that if I got up against a known pro after the cutoff that I either folded or shoved.
I would like the practice of staking the pros to be limited...I guess there is no way to stop it but that cheapens the stakes here at the end
I don't think the amateurs have anyone staking them
The only thing we ever kick around back home is how much we would all go in to stake whoever the best of us is and send them to Vegas
We talked about 25% and 25% from a couple of us, the actual player puts up 50% and chop it up that way but those of us with a 25% stake would not be playing
Just seems like an amateur in the instance you describe is going to be at a huge disadvantage if Mizrachi lets say has an agreement with one or two at the table
So now the 3-bet feels like a way for players to communicate even more with each other than I initially thought
I still think the pros would b best served to try and get to the flops before committing all their chips unless they have KK or AA
They're both awful, but I will give the edge to KabrhelI don't mind Kassouf, and it seems very rare for him to be inappropriate towards other players or the dealers. Martin Kabrhel on the other hand... he talks more than Kassouf and also will take extended time on EVERY decision. He's miles ahead the next guy when it comes to most annoying to have at your table.
I thought he was just saying he doesn't play in tournaments anymore, not that he doesn't play in cash gamesI find that interesting that he no longer considers himself full time at poker
My defense of Kassouf clearly didn't age well over the weekend. It's almost like he saw Kabrhel stealing his thunder and went even more crazy than before.There both awful, but I will give the edge to KabrhelI don't mind Kassouf, and it seems very rare for him to be inappropriate towards other players or the dealers. Martin Kabrhel on the other hand... he talks more than Kassouf and also will take extended time on EVERY decision. He's miles ahead the next guy when it comes to most annoying to have at your table.
I didn't know about Kassouf before this thread. So, watching his recent antiics neutrally, he's pretty insufferable and I do think he breaks the rule about not harassing or insulting other players. And to have the clock called on you that many times is just poor, poor etiquette if not directly against the rules.My defense of Kassouf clearly didn't age well over the weekend. It's almost like he saw Kabrhel stealing his thunder and went even more crazy than before.There both awful, but I will give the edge to KabrhelI don't mind Kassouf, and it seems very rare for him to be inappropriate towards other players or the dealers. Martin Kabrhel on the other hand... he talks more than Kassouf and also will take extended time on EVERY decision. He's miles ahead the next guy when it comes to most annoying to have at your table.
I was wondering if he just hangs out at home- Hard Rock and waits for one of the higher stake games to fill upI thought he was just saying he doesn't play in tournaments anymore, not that he doesn't play in cash gamesI find that interesting that he no longer considers himself full time at poker
Complete tool.I didn't know about Kassouf before this thread. So, watching his recent antiics neutrally, he's pretty insufferable and I do think he breaks the rule about not harassing or insulting other players. And to have the clock called on you that many times is just poor, poor etiquette if not directly against the rules.My defense of Kassouf clearly didn't age well over the weekend. It's almost like he saw Kabrhel stealing his thunder and went even more crazy than before.There both awful, but I will give the edge to KabrhelI don't mind Kassouf, and it seems very rare for him to be inappropriate towards other players or the dealers. Martin Kabrhel on the other hand... he talks more than Kassouf and also will take extended time on EVERY decision. He's miles ahead the next guy when it comes to most annoying to have at your table.
Lindgren has been running hot lately. As you alluded to, he did have to declare bankruptcy after being i believe millions in debt, primarily from sports betting. Earlier this year he won an invitational satellite to get a seat at the Million Dollar Cash game that Hustler Casino runs on their live stream. Caveat was that he had to play I believe at least 6 or 8 hours on the stream. When all was said and done he turned his $25K buy in for the satellite into $1.283 million. He hasd I believe 6 cashes so far this year in the WSOP.I also wanted to point out other things happening at the WSOP
Last night there was a 6 handed tournament with a slew of pros that had already made the money
Matasow was hovering around 10th overall and yes he is kind of a sad sight to many that don't know the whole story since the early 2000s and his verbal abuse to Raymer
Erik Lindgren, yes that guy, he was in the top 30 and I have seen him on numerous tournament boards, I thought he dug himself a hole so deep he would never crawl out of it
And Negranu was of course right around where Lindgren was, Top 30
I think the price was $10,000 to enter this tournament, same amount as the ME but you stand a much better chance of interacting with them at these tournaments
Also they were seated in an area where it feels like you could just walk right up and watch from a short distance, there weren't any rails like at the feature tables
It's possible security won't let you wander around there but it sure seems like they are more accessible there.
Negranu is the only one left I see now, 17th/27 players remaining,
I'm sure his YT-Vlog will be all over that, he's still trying to win Player of the Year and has made a number of deep runs this summer
Maybe he'll be able to pay off the mountain of debt he's accumulated and the countless poker pros he's screwed over.Lindgren has been running hot lately. As you alluded to, he did have to declare bankruptcy after being i believe millions in debt, primarily from sports betting. Earlier this year he won an invitational satellite to get a seat at the Million Dollar Cash game that Hustler Casino runs on their live stream. Caveat was that he had to play I believe at least 6 or 8 hours on the stream. When all was said and done he turned his $25K buy in for the satellite into $1.283 million. He hasd I believe 6 cashes so far this year in the WSOP.I also wanted to point out other things happening at the WSOP
Last night there was a 6 handed tournament with a slew of pros that had already made the money
Matasow was hovering around 10th overall and yes he is kind of a sad sight to many that don't know the whole story since the early 2000s and his verbal abuse to Raymer
Erik Lindgren, yes that guy, he was in the top 30 and I have seen him on numerous tournament boards, I thought he dug himself a hole so deep he would never crawl out of it
And Negranu was of course right around where Lindgren was, Top 30
I think the price was $10,000 to enter this tournament, same amount as the ME but you stand a much better chance of interacting with them at these tournaments
Also they were seated in an area where it feels like you could just walk right up and watch from a short distance, there weren't any rails like at the feature tables
It's possible security won't let you wander around there but it sure seems like they are more accessible there.
Negranu is the only one left I see now, 17th/27 players remaining,
I'm sure his YT-Vlog will be all over that, he's still trying to win Player of the Year and has made a number of deep runs this summer
He was getting a lot of money from Full Tilt and I think he even got some loans post Black Friday but don't hold me to it.Maybe he'll be able to pay off the mountain of debt he's accumulated and the countless poker pros he's screwed over.Lindgren has been running hot lately. As you alluded to, he did have to declare bankruptcy after being i believe millions in debt, primarily from sports betting. Earlier this year he won an invitational satellite to get a seat at the Million Dollar Cash game that Hustler Casino runs on their live stream. Caveat was that he had to play I believe at least 6 or 8 hours on the stream. When all was said and done he turned his $25K buy in for the satellite into $1.283 million. He hasd I believe 6 cashes so far this year in the WSOP.I also wanted to point out other things happening at the WSOP
Last night there was a 6 handed tournament with a slew of pros that had already made the money
Matasow was hovering around 10th overall and yes he is kind of a sad sight to many that don't know the whole story since the early 2000s and his verbal abuse to Raymer
Erik Lindgren, yes that guy, he was in the top 30 and I have seen him on numerous tournament boards, I thought he dug himself a hole so deep he would never crawl out of it
And Negranu was of course right around where Lindgren was, Top 30
I think the price was $10,000 to enter this tournament, same amount as the ME but you stand a much better chance of interacting with them at these tournaments
Also they were seated in an area where it feels like you could just walk right up and watch from a short distance, there weren't any rails like at the feature tables
It's possible security won't let you wander around there but it sure seems like they are more accessible there.
Negranu is the only one left I see now, 17th/27 players remaining,
I'm sure his YT-Vlog will be all over that, he's still trying to win Player of the Year and has made a number of deep runs this summer
Interesting for the final table there are three people in their 30s, five people in their 40s, and one 50 year old dude.
What happened to all those young hotshot dudes in their 20s that usually hit the final table.
What makes you say this?Interesting for the final table there are three people in their 30s, five people in their 40s, and one 50 year old dude.
What happened to all those young hotshot dudes in their 20s that usually hit the final table.
Playing DFS instead probably
Haven't read the thread, Kassouf seems like an enormous ***** but the rulings against him got ridiculously bad
What makes you say this?Interesting for the final table there are three people in their 30s, five people in their 40s, and one 50 year old dude.
What happened to all those young hotshot dudes in their 20s that usually hit the final table.
Playing DFS instead probably
Haven't read the thread, Kassouf seems like an enormous ***** but the rulings against him got ridiculously bad
The clips I watched made the rulings seem reasonable. From my perspective, he's in the Draymond/Suh bucket where all benefits of the doubt are lost.
On Thursday, during the dinner break, after his repeated stalling in situations where there was no decision to be made, they put a 10 second clock on him for all decisions, which I thought was extreme. 30 seconds would have made more sense.What makes you say this?Interesting for the final table there are three people in their 30s, five people in their 40s, and one 50 year old dude.
What happened to all those young hotshot dudes in their 20s that usually hit the final table.
Playing DFS instead probably
Haven't read the thread, Kassouf seems like an enormous ***** but the rulings against him got ridiculously bad
The clips I watched made the rulings seem reasonable. From my perspective, he's in the Draymond/Suh bucket where all benefits of the doubt are lost.
If what I have seen is correct he was given ten seconds to consider a 3m chip shove for twice the pot for his tournament life. That is in no way reasonable. I am probably in the top couple of percentiles of how quickly I act but I'd need at least a minute to mull that hand over in that spot. Yes he is far too slow in a lot of mundane spots but you can't just treat every decision in the same way
AND ANOTHERAnother river
Sick how he skates with AKo vs KKAnother river
His good friend, cough cough, Daniel Negranu was discussing it more than once on his Vlog which plays on Youtube and gets a ridiculous number of views vs say whatever PokerGo launches as a daily recap video of the Main Event which they've done going back to Day 1A.Dude was clubbing until 8 AM? At two years older than me after what should be a strenuous mental grind at the table for life changing money?
I don't know whether to be impressed by him or embarrassed for him.
I was on the Vlog in 2022 and 2023. Started Day 2 of OM8 with DNegs on my right. Have a great pic of it.Daniel Negranu was discussing it more than once on his Vlog which plays on Youtube and gets a ridiculous number of views
I'll have to dig this upI was on the Vlog in 2022 and 2023. Started Day 2 of OM8 with DNegs on my right. Have a great pic of it.Daniel Negranu was discussing it more than once on his Vlog which plays on Youtube and gets a ridiculous number of views
So crazy. This is so awesome to watch wasnockTwo hands in and already down to 2!!! Crazy.
If recall correctly, first time it was just reading off the names he was playing against while driving to wsop. So that ones in the beginning. Lol. He botched my last name.I'll have to dig this upI was on the Vlog in 2022 and 2023. Started Day 2 of OM8 with DNegs on my right. Have a great pic of it.Daniel Negranu was discussing it more than once on his Vlog which plays on Youtube and gets a ridiculous number of views
That's awesome
-He's a great poker ambassador and he must be raking it in with his social media presence, he's a brand ambassador I would say on top of just general poker.
I think other pros that are more reserved or quiet about their lives might not appreciate all of his constant camera work.
He likes to discuss hands with specific players when he's off the tables, it's great for viewers but other pros might not appreciate it the same way.
-He had Gus Hansen on his right when he was filming on a break from the 6-man the other night, that was an interesting exchange.
Hansen was one of my favorites and especially during High Stakes Poker, looks like they are good friends
This has been one of the more entertaining Main Events that I can recall since some of the 2000s when the field kept expanding and the payouts kept rising
I've also enjoyed a lot of the behind the scenes and updates on Negranu's YT channel, it's worth thumbing thru his videos, things you won't see on other poker shows