:X Lakers 13/14 Thread: 6th Draft Slot "Locked Up" :BYE: (4 Viewers)

[drummer]

So as a fan, I'm not so sure I'd really be thrilled if he signs with the Lakers, given that he's making it obvious it's just about the money.

That said, you think they could bring him over if they dumped D'Antoni now?

I'd take him back for just one more year if it meant firing D'Antoni and bringing Jackson back.

 

[drummer]

Would they be interested in bringing back Bynum? Find a trade partner for gasol?

I don't think they'd sign him to anything more than a 1 year deal. Plan B is to have an empty roster next offseason, so they can have lots of space to sign no-one when nobody opts out of their deals and the Pacers match whatever offer the Lakers make to Paul George.

You have got to be the most negative Lakers fan ever. You need to put a little faith in Time Warner- they are not going to let their premium sports franchise, worth billions of dollars, fall apart.

Time Warner is going to force a bunch of guys to opt out when they don't need to and change the CBA so the Pacers can't match on George? Sure all kinds of crazy #### can and will happen between now and next offsesason, but just going off what we know now, I don't see the light at the end of the tunnel there. You really think James is going to opt out and come to a team with nobody on it?

I guarantee next summer will be very good for Lakers fans. I'm not going to offer any details because I have none. But good things WILL happen.

Translation: "Got my butt kicked in the Zimmerman thread. Mind if I hang out here?

 

[timschochet]

Would they be interested in bringing back Bynum? Find a trade partner for gasol?

I don't think they'd sign him to anything more than a 1 year deal. Plan B is to have an empty roster next offseason, so they can have lots of space to sign no-one when nobody opts out of their deals and the Pacers match whatever offer the Lakers make to Paul George.

You have got to be the most negative Lakers fan ever. You need to put a little faith in Time Warner- they are not going to let their premium sports franchise, worth billions of dollars, fall apart.

Time Warner is going to force a bunch of guys to opt out when they don't need to and change the CBA so the Pacers can't match on George? Sure all kinds of crazy #### can and will happen between now and next offsesason, but just going off what we know now, I don't see the light at the end of the tunnel there. You really think James is going to opt out and come to a team with nobody on it?

I guarantee next summer will be very good for Lakers fans. I'm not going to offer any details because I have none. But good things WILL happen.

Translation: "Got my butt kicked in the Zimmerman thread. Mind if I hang out here?

I haven't gotten my butt kicked anywhere. And I'll post where I please. One of the main rules around here is be excellent to each other. You're doing a very poor job of it. Stop wasting my time. If you dislike me that much, put me on ignore.

 

[drummer]

Would they be interested in bringing back Bynum? Find a trade partner for gasol?

I don't think they'd sign him to anything more than a 1 year deal. Plan B is to have an empty roster next offseason, so they can have lots of space to sign no-one when nobody opts out of their deals and the Pacers match whatever offer the Lakers make to Paul George.

You have got to be the most negative Lakers fan ever. You need to put a little faith in Time Warner- they are not going to let their premium sports franchise, worth billions of dollars, fall apart.

Time Warner is going to force a bunch of guys to opt out when they don't need to and change the CBA so the Pacers can't match on George? Sure all kinds of crazy #### can and will happen between now and next offsesason, but just going off what we know now, I don't see the light at the end of the tunnel there. You really think James is going to opt out and come to a team with nobody on it?

I guarantee next summer will be very good for Lakers fans. I'm not going to offer any details because I have none. But good things WILL happen.

Translation: "Got my butt kicked in the Zimmerman thread. Mind if I hang out here?

I haven't gotten my butt kicked anywhere. And I'll post where I please.One of the main rules around here is be excellent to each other. You're doing a very poor job of it. Stop wasting my time. If you dislike me that much, put me on ignore.

Give me a break. You're just trying once again to make this about you. Good posts are good posts. Just blabbing about "YOU'RE NOT A TRUE FANZ BELIEVE ME THEY WILL BE TEH BETTERZ" at the end of a day of Howard drama adds nothing here.

If you don't like it, you can use the same ignore function too. I don't put anyone on ignore. Not even you.

 

[Abraham]

Mitch just released a statement saying Howard is not returning.

 

[drummer]

Mitch just released a statement saying Howard is not returning.

That was a quick flight from Colorado.

 

[JMon348]

Hooray!

 

[timschochet]

Would they be interested in bringing back Bynum? Find a trade partner for gasol?

I don't think they'd sign him to anything more than a 1 year deal. Plan B is to have an empty roster next offseason, so they can have lots of space to sign no-one when nobody opts out of their deals and the Pacers match whatever offer the Lakers make to Paul George.

You have got to be the most negative Lakers fan ever. You need to put a little faith in Time Warner- they are not going to let their premium sports franchise, worth billions of dollars, fall apart.

Time Warner is going to force a bunch of guys to opt out when they don't need to and change the CBA so the Pacers can't match on George? Sure all kinds of crazy #### can and will happen between now and next offsesason, but just going off what we know now, I don't see the light at the end of the tunnel there. You really think James is going to opt out and come to a team with nobody on it?

I guarantee next summer will be very good for Lakers fans. I'm not going to offer any details because I have none. But good things WILL happen.

Translation: "Got my butt kicked in the Zimmerman thread. Mind if I hang out here?

I haven't gotten my butt kicked anywhere. And I'll post where I please.One of the main rules around here is be excellent to each other. You're doing a very poor job of it. Stop wasting my time. If you dislike me that much, put me on ignore.

Give me a break. You're just trying once again to make this about you. Good posts are good posts. Just blabbing about "YOU'RE NOT A TRUE FANZ BELIEVE ME THEY WILL BE TEH BETTERZ" at the end of a day of Howard drama adds nothing here.

If you don't like it, you can use the same ignore function too. I don't put anyone on ignore. Not even you.

YOU made this about me, not me. I love Groovus, but sometimes he's just so negative as a Lakers fan. I'm trying to cheer him up and you come in and throw a bunch of insults at me as you so often do. Why I have no idea.

 

[drummer]

Would they be interested in bringing back Bynum? Find a trade partner for gasol?

I don't think they'd sign him to anything more than a 1 year deal. Plan B is to have an empty roster next offseason, so they can have lots of space to sign no-one when nobody opts out of their deals and the Pacers match whatever offer the Lakers make to Paul George.

You have got to be the most negative Lakers fan ever. You need to put a little faith in Time Warner- they are not going to let their premium sports franchise, worth billions of dollars, fall apart.

Time Warner is going to force a bunch of guys to opt out when they don't need to and change the CBA so the Pacers can't match on George? Sure all kinds of crazy #### can and will happen between now and next offsesason, but just going off what we know now, I don't see the light at the end of the tunnel there. You really think James is going to opt out and come to a team with nobody on it?

I guarantee next summer will be very good for Lakers fans. I'm not going to offer any details because I have none. But good things WILL happen.

Translation: "Got my butt kicked in the Zimmerman thread. Mind if I hang out here?

I haven't gotten my butt kicked anywhere. And I'll post where I please.One of the main rules around here is be excellent to each other. You're doing a very poor job of it. Stop wasting my time. If you dislike me that much, put me on ignore.

Give me a break. You're just trying once again to make this about you. Good posts are good posts. Just blabbing about "YOU'RE NOT A TRUE FANZ BELIEVE ME THEY WILL BE TEH BETTERZ" at the end of a day of Howard drama adds nothing here.

If you don't like it, you can use the same ignore function too. I don't put anyone on ignore. Not even you.

YOU made this about me, not me. I love Groovus, but sometimes he's just so negative as a Lakers fan. I'm trying to cheer him up and you come in and throw a bunch of insults at me as you so often do. Why I have no idea.

Here is a clue: Time Warner didn't hire D'Antoni. Jimbo did.

 

[Gr00vus]

Hooray!

Not a Howard fan?

Maybe the Lakers actually dodged a bullet here, but I don't see this thing coming back together real soon. Kobe is going to go after the all time scoring record, it'll be interesting to see how the Lakers negotiate that potential iceburg.

Talk now of MWP getting amnestied. That'd mean they'd have to go with a bargain basement 3, let alone a 3 off the bench. Tough season ahead.

 

[timschochet]

Hooray!

Not a Howard fan?

Maybe the Lakers actually dodged a bullet here, but I don't see this thing coming back together real soon. Kobe is going to go after the all time scoring record, it'll be interesting to see how the Lakers negotiate that potential iceburg.

Talk now of MWP getting amnestied. That'd mean they'd have to go with a bargain basement 3, let alone a 3 off the bench. Tough season ahead.

It looks to be a season to analyze the bench talent and see who belongs and who doesn't. I'm excited by Jordan Hill and Earl Clark.Anyhow, I think they will be better than people imagine, IF Nash is healthy, and Kobe is healthy by midseason. Gasol will thrive back in the 5, and I predict he will perform at all star level.

Not a championship team, but certainly a high quality one and a team to be reckoned with- IF they maintain their health. And a team that I believe free agents will want to come to next year.

I'm excited by it.

 

[Ghost Rider]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSi2zWaF9vE

 

[Gr00vus]

Hooray!

Not a Howard fan?

Maybe the Lakers actually dodged a bullet here, but I don't see this thing coming back together real soon. Kobe is going to go after the all time scoring record, it'll be interesting to see how the Lakers negotiate that potential iceburg.

Talk now of MWP getting amnestied. That'd mean they'd have to go with a bargain basement 3, let alone a 3 off the bench. Tough season ahead.

It looks to be a season to analyze the bench talent and see who belongs and who doesn't. I'm excited by Jordan Hill and Earl Clark.Anyhow, I think they will be better than people imagine, IF Nash is healthy, and Kobe is healthy by midseason. Gasol will thrive back in the 5, and I predict he will perform at all star level.

Not a championship team, but certainly a high quality one and a team to be reckoned with- IF they maintain their health. And a team that I believe free agents will want to come to next year.

I'm excited by it.

Yeah it's probably a good time to get in on being a Cavs fan. When LeBron goes back there you won't look like a total front runner.

Also at "bench talent" - even if they had kept Clark.

 

[timschochet]

Hooray!

Not a Howard fan?

Maybe the Lakers actually dodged a bullet here, but I don't see this thing coming back together real soon. Kobe is going to go after the all time scoring record, it'll be interesting to see how the Lakers negotiate that potential iceburg.

Talk now of MWP getting amnestied. That'd mean they'd have to go with a bargain basement 3, let alone a 3 off the bench. Tough season ahead.

It looks to be a season to analyze the bench talent and see who belongs and who doesn't. I'm excited by Jordan Hill and Earl Clark.Anyhow, I think they will be better than people imagine, IF Nash is healthy, and Kobe is healthy by midseason. Gasol will thrive back in the 5, and I predict he will perform at all star level.

Not a championship team, but certainly a high quality one and a team to be reckoned with- IF they maintain their health. And a team that I believe free agents will want to come to next year.

I'm excited by it.

Yeah it's probably a good time to get in on being a Cavs fan. When LeBron goes back there you won't look like a total front runner.

Also at "bench talent" - even if they had kept Clark.

Damn. I forgot about that. Oh well.

 

[Gr00vus]

Oh well.

If you really want things to turn around sooner rather than later, you/we probably need to be rooting for a total desolation this year - amnesty MWP, trade Nash and Gasol for whatever, have Kobe take most of the year off. Hope that lands the Lakers in the top 5 of the draft.

 

[JMon348]

Hooray!

Not a Howard fan?

Maybe the Lakers actually dodged a bullet here, but I don't see this thing coming back together real soon. Kobe is going to go after the all time scoring record, it'll be interesting to see how the Lakers negotiate that potential iceburg.

Talk now of MWP getting amnestied. That'd mean they'd have to go with a bargain basement 3, let alone a 3 off the bench. Tough season ahead.

It might take a couple years to realize but It's my opinion that we definetly dodged a bullet. His problem is he thinks he's better than he is, and is very whiny and probably the most sensitive athlete in sports. I don't know if it was his back or not but he definetly didn't give us 100% last year.

What I was hoping for (and now what Houston fans are hoping for), is that once he got his contract and is locked in he can go back to his old self, attitude and play. That's just a hope though. I haven't been a fan of his fake nice guy nice guy persona for years. I voiced my opinion on here before we got him, but talked myself into it. Rumors of 8 kids by 6 different woman, his body language when things aren't going well. Kinda relieved he's gone.

Definitely puts us behind the 8 ball, Mitch has work to do. Going to be a very interesting year, season then next offseason.

 

[timschochet]

Plaschke bringing the hope:

http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-sp-plaschke-howard-20130706,0,3744757.column?page=2

So what happens now? Patience happens now. To frame this as a big loss for the Lakers is hugely wrong. To think of this as an ending ignores the possibilities that are just beginning.

The Lakers will enter next season led by a limping Bryant and a nine-lives Pau Gasol, which means they will not contend for a championship. But guess what? Even with Howard, they were not contending for a championship next season.

This is all about 2014, and the team now having enough cap space to build a team around a potentially star-studded free agency class led by LeBron James. This is all about the Lakers now having the potential to tap into a 2014 draft class with at least five guys who would have been No. 1 picks this season.

The wait between championships in the Shaq-Kobe era and Kobe-Pau era was seven years. This next pause won't be nearly as long, and a lot shorter than if Howard had remained.

Sometimes you have to lose a bit of yourself to find yourself. The Lakers are about 7 feet shorter today, and their ceiling is again limitless.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Plaschke bringing the hope:

http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-sp-plaschke-howard-20130706,0,3744757.column?page=2

So what happens now? Patience happens now. To frame this as a big loss for the Lakers is hugely wrong. To think of this as an ending ignores the possibilities that are just beginning.

The Lakers will enter next season led by a limping Bryant and a nine-lives Pau Gasol, which means they will not contend for a championship. But guess what? Even with Howard, they were not contending for a championship next season.

This is all about 2014, and the team now having enough cap space to build a team around a potentially star-studded free agency class led by LeBron James. This is all about the Lakers now having the potential to tap into a 2014 draft class with at least five guys who would have been No. 1 picks this season.

The wait between championships in the Shaq-Kobe era and Kobe-Pau era was seven years. This next pause won't be nearly as long, and a lot shorter than if Howard had remained.

Sometimes you have to lose a bit of yourself to find yourself. The Lakers are about 7 feet shorter today, and their ceiling is again limitless.

I will bet you two hundred dollars that James isn't a Laker in 2014-2015.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Can't lebron opt in for another year in Miami if he wants to, which would be better for the team to contend?

 

[Ghost Rider]

Gotta love that people actually think LeBron will go to the Lakers after next season. Yeah, I am sure an unselfish superstar, who is the best player in the world right now, will want to go play second fiddle to a selfish guy like Kobe Bryant.

 

[drummer]

Gotta love that people actually think LeBron will go to the Lakers after next season. Yeah, I am sure an unselfish superstar, who is the best player in the world right now, will want to go play second fiddle to a selfish guy like Kobe Bryant.

Gotta love people who think Lebron is unselfish.

 

[timschochet]

Plaschke bringing the hope:

http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-sp-plaschke-howard-20130706,0,3744757.column?page=2

So what happens now? Patience happens now. To frame this as a big loss for the Lakers is hugely wrong. To think of this as an ending ignores the possibilities that are just beginning.

The Lakers will enter next season led by a limping Bryant and a nine-lives Pau Gasol, which means they will not contend for a championship. But guess what? Even with Howard, they were not contending for a championship next season.

This is all about 2014, and the team now having enough cap space to build a team around a potentially star-studded free agency class led by LeBron James. This is all about the Lakers now having the potential to tap into a 2014 draft class with at least five guys who would have been No. 1 picks this season.

The wait between championships in the Shaq-Kobe era and Kobe-Pau era was seven years. This next pause won't be nearly as long, and a lot shorter than if Howard had remained.

Sometimes you have to lose a bit of yourself to find yourself. The Lakers are about 7 feet shorter today, and their ceiling is again limitless.

I will bet you two hundred dollars that James isn't a Laker in 2014-2015.

Odds are about one in four, so that would be a very poor bet for me. I will counter you with this: $100 says the Lakers will begin the 2014-15 as one of the 8 teams Vegas considers most likely to win the NBA Championship.

 

[drummer]

Hooray!

Not a Howard fan?

Maybe the Lakers actually dodged a bullet here, but I don't see this thing coming back together real soon. Kobe is going to go after the all time scoring record, it'll be interesting to see how the Lakers negotiate that potential iceburg.

Talk now of MWP getting amnestied. That'd mean they'd have to go with a bargain basement 3, let alone a 3 off the bench. Tough season ahead.

It might take a couple years to realize but It's my opinion that we definetly dodged a bullet. His problem is he thinks he's better than he is, and is very whiny and probably the most sensitive athlete in sports. I don't know if it was his back or not but he definetly didn't give us 100% last year.

What I was hoping for (and now what Houston fans are hoping for), is that once he got his contract and is locked in he can go back to his old self, attitude and play. That's just a hope though. I haven't been a fan of his fake nice guy nice guy persona for years. I voiced my opinion on here before we got him, but talked myself into it. Rumors of 8 kids by 6 different woman, his body language when things aren't going well. Kinda relieved he's gone.

Definitely puts us behind the 8 ball, Mitch has work to do. Going to be a very interesting year, season then next offseason.

The interesting part is of Kupchack can build a team from scratch like West had twice. Post the Benoit Benjamin days of 1993, West got players like Eddie Jones, Elden Campbell, Nick Van Exel, Rick Fox, Shaq, Bryant, etc. Hell for 2014, the Lakers should try to get West back in the fold somehow with Phil Jackson back too. Grab Brian Shaw to coach the team. There are a lot of options and cash for they to rebuild back into a multi championship team.

 

[Dr. Gobbler]

You have to love the misguided optimism.

Even after getting b@&$@ slapped by Dwight, who would rather give up $30,000,000 than play another season with Kobe/Lakers, some of you still think Lebron is coming to town. You guys understand that no one in the league likes Kobe right? You understand that no one wants him or will help him get to get #6. No one wants to be his teammate because he sucks at being a teammate. Kobe did everything possible to send the message that he is the alpha dog on the Lakers. Who can blame Dwight, who wants to work in an environment where your coworker is a giant doosh/pain in the ###? The Lakers will never be the same again. The CBA will prevent it. Plus only Lakers fans put such a cache on being a Laker. Like Bynum said, 'they have banks in Philadelphia too'. The best hope for you is to tank this year, get rid of Kobe next year so players will want to come to LA again and hope to god you get the lucky lottery ball. Your biggest Achilles heel right now is Kobe Bryant and his Achilles is blown the F out. Poetry. Ain't it great?

 

[timschochet]

You have to love the misguided optimism.

Even after getting b@&$@ slapped by Dwight, who would rather give up $30,000,000 than play another season with Kobe/Lakers, some of you still think Lebron is coming to town. You guys understand that no one in the league likes Kobe right? You understand that no one wants him or will help him get to get #6. No one wants to be his teammate because he sucks at being a teammate. Kobe did everything possible to send the message that he is the alpha dog on the Lakers. Who can blame Dwight, who wants to work in an environment where your coworker is a giant doosh/pain in the ###? The Lakers will never be the same again. The CBA will prevent it. Plus only Lakers fans put such a cache on being a Laker. Like Bynum said, 'they have banks in Philadelphia too'. The best hope for you is to tank this year, get rid of Kobe next year so players will want to come to LA again and hope to god you get the lucky lottery ball. Your biggest Achilles heel right now is Kobe Bryant and his Achilles is blown the F out. Poetry. Ain't it great?

Here's what I understand, you mother####ing welsh. You owe me $80. You owe Jmon $30. It's been well over a year now. That makes you a complete scumbag. Pay up! With interest. And stop posting until you do.

 

[drummer]

You have to love the misguided optimism.

Even after getting b@&$@ slapped by Dwight, who would rather give up $30,000,000 than play another season with Kobe/Lakers, some of you still think Lebron is coming to town. You guys understand that no one in the league likes Kobe right? You understand that no one wants him or will help him get to get #6. No one wants to be his teammate because he sucks at being a teammate. Kobe did everything possible to send the message that he is the alpha dog on the Lakers. Who can blame Dwight, who wants to work in an environment where your coworker is a giant doosh/pain in the ###? The Lakers will never be the same again. The CBA will prevent it. Plus only Lakers fans put such a cache on being a Laker. Like Bynum said, 'they have banks in Philadelphia too'. The best hope for you is to tank this year, get rid of Kobe next year so players will want to come to LA again and hope to god you get the lucky lottery ball. Your biggest Achilles heel right now is Kobe Bryant and his Achilles is blown the F out. Poetry. Ain't it great?

Here's what I understand, you mother####ing welsh. You owe me $80. You owe Jmon $30. It's been well over a year now. That makes you a complete scumbag. Pay up! With interest. And stop posting until you do.

Be excellent dude.

But you should tell him #### YOU PAY ME

 

[timschochet]

You have to love the misguided optimism.Even after getting b@&$@ slapped by Dwight, who would rather give up $30,000,000 than play another season with Kobe/Lakers, some of you still think Lebron is coming to town. You guys understand that no one in the league likes Kobe right? You understand that no one wants him or will help him get to get #6. No one wants to be his teammate because he sucks at being a teammate. Kobe did everything possible to send the message that he is the alpha dog on the Lakers. Who can blame Dwight, who wants to work in an environment where your coworker is a giant doosh/pain in the ###? The Lakers will never be the same again. The CBA will prevent it. Plus only Lakers fans put such a cache on being a Laker. Like Bynum said, 'they have banks in Philadelphia too'. The best hope for you is to tank this year, get rid of Kobe next year so players will want to come to LA again and hope to god you get the lucky lottery ball. Your biggest Achilles heel right now is Kobe Bryant and his Achilles is blown the F out. Poetry. Ain't it great?

Here's what I understand, you mother####ing welsh. You owe me $80. You owe Jmon $30. It's been well over a year now. That makes you a complete scumbag. Pay up! With interest. And stop posting until you do.

Be excellent dude. But you should tell him #### YOU PAY ME

I try to be excellent. But there's a limit. This guy made wagers here for every one to see. Nobody forced him to do so. When he lost and the money was due he disappeared for months, only to return and pretend as if nothing happened. If I were the Mods I would not allow him to post here until he paid up.

 

[drummer]

You have to love the misguided optimism.Even after getting b@&$@ slapped by Dwight, who would rather give up $30,000,000 than play another season with Kobe/Lakers, some of you still think Lebron is coming to town. You guys understand that no one in the league likes Kobe right? You understand that no one wants him or will help him get to get #6. No one wants to be his teammate because he sucks at being a teammate. Kobe did everything possible to send the message that he is the alpha dog on the Lakers. Who can blame Dwight, who wants to work in an environment where your coworker is a giant doosh/pain in the ###? The Lakers will never be the same again. The CBA will prevent it. Plus only Lakers fans put such a cache on being a Laker. Like Bynum said, 'they have banks in Philadelphia too'. The best hope for you is to tank this year, get rid of Kobe next year so players will want to come to LA again and hope to god you get the lucky lottery ball. Your biggest Achilles heel right now is Kobe Bryant and his Achilles is blown the F out. Poetry. Ain't it great?

Here's what I understand, you mother####ing welsh. You owe me $80. You owe Jmon $30. It's been well over a year now. That makes you a complete scumbag. Pay up! With interest. And stop posting until you do.

Be excellent dude. But you should tell him #### YOU PAY ME

I try to be excellent. But there's a limit. This guy made wagers here for every one to see. Nobody forced him to do so. When he lost and the money was due he disappeared for months, only to return and pretend as if nothing happened.If I were the Mods I would not allow him to post here until he paid up.

Yeah well chances are you'll never see the money anyway, and Gobbler is a horrid troll to begin with. Betting with a horrid troll is more on you, not him.

 

[timschochet]

Oh I'm sure I'll never see it. And you're right; if I had known what sort of guy he was, I never would have wagered with him. Lesson learned. Now I only bet with people I know pretty well or who have been vouched by someone I trust around here.

But as for Gobbler, I will continue to hound him Everytime he shows his sorry face in this forum.

 

[Shrugs]

You have to love the misguided optimism.

Even after getting b@&$@ slapped by Dwight, who would rather give up $30,000,000 than play another season with Kobe/Lakers, some of you still think Lebron is coming to town. You guys understand that no one in the league likes Kobe right? You understand that no one wants him or will help him get to get #6. No one wants to be his teammate because he sucks at being a teammate. Kobe did everything possible to send the message that he is the alpha dog on the Lakers. Who can blame Dwight, who wants to work in an environment where your coworker is a giant doosh/pain in the ###? The Lakers will never be the same again. The CBA will prevent it. Plus only Lakers fans put such a cache on being a Laker. Like Bynum said, 'they have banks in Philadelphia too'. The best hope for you is to tank this year, get rid of Kobe next year so players will want to come to LA again and hope to god you get the lucky lottery ball. Your biggest Achilles heel right now is Kobe Bryant and his Achilles is blown the F out. Poetry. Ain't it great?

If I had the choice to play with a hard ### who would push me and always compete or a cry baby who shies away from pressure, I'll take the hard ### every time. I admire Kobe's will. I'm sure there are players out there who feel the same way.

 

[drummer]

Oh I'm sure I'll never see it. And you're right; if I had known what sort of guy he was, I never would have wagered with him. Lesson learned. Now I only bet with people I know pretty well or who have been vouched by someone I trust around here.

But as for Gobbler, I will continue to hound him Everytime he shows his sorry face in this forum.

I like this side of you.

 

[tommyGunZ]

You have to love the misguided optimism.

Even after getting b@&$@ slapped by Dwight, who would rather give up $30,000,000 than play another season with Kobe/Lakers, some of you still think Lebron is coming to town. You guys understand that no one in the league likes Kobe right? You understand that no one wants him or will help him get to get #6. No one wants to be his teammate because he sucks at being a teammate. Kobe did everything possible to send the message that he is the alpha dog on the Lakers. Who can blame Dwight, who wants to work in an environment where your coworker is a giant doosh/pain in the ###? The Lakers will never be the same again. The CBA will prevent it. Plus only Lakers fans put such a cache on being a Laker. Like Bynum said, 'they have banks in Philadelphia too'. The best hope for you is to tank this year, get rid of Kobe next year so players will want to come to LA again and hope to god you get the lucky lottery ball. Your biggest Achilles heel right now is Kobe Bryant and his Achilles is blown the F out. Poetry. Ain't it great?

Speaking of people no one likes. Pay up or stop posting on these boards you piece of ####.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Only real hope is to amnesty Kobe and his 30m. It's probably too late for that with the bigger name FA already finding teams. They are fkd capped wise because they could only sign their own players like D12. The only sign and trade I could see is bringing back Bynum but I doubt Hinkie is interested in that.

 

[drummer]

Only real hope is to amnesty Kobe and his 30m. It's probably too late for that with the bigger name FA already finding teams. They are fkd capped wise because they could only sign their own players like D12. The only sign and trade I could see is bringing back Bynum but I doubt Hinkie is interested in that.

Like I said before, centers getting ejected during playoff games is getting kinda old, so I pass on Bynum.

 

[ShaHBucks]

You have to love the misguided optimism.

Even after getting b@&$@ slapped by Dwight, who would rather give up $30,000,000 than play another season with Kobe/Lakers, some of you still think Lebron is coming to town. You guys understand that no one in the league likes Kobe right? You understand that no one wants him or will help him get to get #6. No one wants to be his teammate because he sucks at being a teammate. Kobe did everything possible to send the message that he is the alpha dog on the Lakers. Who can blame Dwight, who wants to work in an environment where your coworker is a giant doosh/pain in the ###? The Lakers will never be the same again. The CBA will prevent it. Plus only Lakers fans put such a cache on being a Laker. Like Bynum said, 'they have banks in Philadelphia too'. The best hope for you is to tank this year, get rid of Kobe next year so players will want to come to LA again and hope to god you get the lucky lottery ball. Your biggest Achilles heel right now is Kobe Bryant and his Achilles is blown the F out. Poetry. Ain't it great?

It's not really 30m when you look at taxes and the marketability in China.

 

[drummer]

You have to love the misguided optimism.

Even after getting b@&$@ slapped by Dwight, who would rather give up $30,000,000 than play another season with Kobe/Lakers, some of you still think Lebron is coming to town. You guys understand that no one in the league likes Kobe right? You understand that no one wants him or will help him get to get #6. No one wants to be his teammate because he sucks at being a teammate. Kobe did everything possible to send the message that he is the alpha dog on the Lakers. Who can blame Dwight, who wants to work in an environment where your coworker is a giant doosh/pain in the ###? The Lakers will never be the same again. The CBA will prevent it. Plus only Lakers fans put such a cache on being a Laker. Like Bynum said, 'they have banks in Philadelphia too'. The best hope for you is to tank this year, get rid of Kobe next year so players will want to come to LA again and hope to god you get the lucky lottery ball. Your biggest Achilles heel right now is Kobe Bryant and his Achilles is blown the F out. Poetry. Ain't it great?

Speaking of people no one likes. Pay up or stop posting on these boards you piece of ####.

I say put both of them in a Cage match, but some people here don't understand what that means.

 

[Gr00vus]

You have to love the misguided optimism.

Even after getting b@&$@ slapped by Dwight, who would rather give up $30,000,000 than play another season with Kobe/Lakers, some of you still think Lebron is coming to town. You guys understand that no one in the league likes Kobe right? You understand that no one wants him or will help him get to get #6. No one wants to be his teammate because he sucks at being a teammate. Kobe did everything possible to send the message that he is the alpha dog on the Lakers. Who can blame Dwight, who wants to work in an environment where your coworker is a giant doosh/pain in the ###? The Lakers will never be the same again. The CBA will prevent it. Plus only Lakers fans put such a cache on being a Laker. Like Bynum said, 'they have banks in Philadelphia too'. The best hope for you is to tank this year, get rid of Kobe next year so players will want to come to LA again and hope to god you get the lucky lottery ball. Your biggest Achilles heel right now is Kobe Bryant and his Achilles is blown the F out. Poetry. Ain't it great?

You're right, the Lakers will never be good again. Ever.

On an unsarcastic note, you should really pay off your bets.

 

[Gr00vus]

Only real hope is to amnesty Kobe and his 30m. It's probably too late for that with the bigger name FA already finding teams. They are fkd capped wise because they could only sign their own players like D12. The only sign and trade I could see is bringing back Bynum but I doubt Hinkie is interested in that.

I don't really understand the point of amnestying Kobe at this time. The time to do that was before Howard left, not after. Now you'd just be begging Cuban to sign him for league minimum and laugh at your sorry ### for having to pay for most of Kobe's salary and get no benefit from it. If they amnesty MWP they'd alleviate much of their luxury tax hit. If they could find a taker for Nash or Gasol, it'd be gone altogether. Kobe's not going anywhere - suggesting that as a realistic option is as stupid as thinking the everyone wants to play for the Lakers just because they're the Lakers.

 

[Gr00vus]

Lakers rumored to have contacted Lamar Odom, also rumored to be interested in Elton Brand. Not sure either guy will sign for the peanuts the Lakers have to offer.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Only real hope is to amnesty Kobe and his 30m. It's probably too late for that with the bigger name FA already finding teams. They are fkd capped wise because they could only sign their own players like D12. The only sign and trade I could see is bringing back Bynum but I doubt Hinkie is interested in that.

I don't really understand the point of amnestying Kobe at this time. The time to do that was before Howard left, not after. Now you'd just be begging Cuban to sign him for league minimum and laugh at your sorry ### for having to pay for most of Kobe's salary and get no benefit from it. If they amnesty MWP they'd alleviate much of their luxury tax hit. If they could find a taker for Nash or Gasol, it'd be gone altogether. Kobe's not going anywhere - suggesting that as a realistic option is as stupid as thinking the everyone wants to play for the Lakers just because they're the Lakers.

1) they can't afford him. 2) he's not worth 30m.

3) he's not healthy

4) he's old

I'm really saying they should, but the won't amnesty Kobe. I'm sure some team will bid a good amount of money on Kobe and you won't get hit for the entire 30m. You're right, the time to do that has past. If Kobe and Dwight really had bad blood that could have been a negotiation tactic. Cut Kobe and sign Iggy and J-Smooth or whatever... Then at the deadline you can trade for anyone by offering expiring contracts since every player except Nash and whoever you signed is off the books next year.

 

[Gr00vus]

Only real hope is to amnesty Kobe and his 30m. It's probably too late for that with the bigger name FA already finding teams. They are fkd capped wise because they could only sign their own players like D12. The only sign and trade I could see is bringing back Bynum but I doubt Hinkie is interested in that.

I don't really understand the point of amnestying Kobe at this time. The time to do that was before Howard left, not after. Now you'd just be begging Cuban to sign him for league minimum and laugh at your sorry ### for having to pay for most of Kobe's salary and get no benefit from it. If they amnesty MWP they'd alleviate much of their luxury tax hit. If they could find a taker for Nash or Gasol, it'd be gone altogether. Kobe's not going anywhere - suggesting that as a realistic option is as stupid as thinking the everyone wants to play for the Lakers just because they're the Lakers.

1) they can't afford him.2) he's not worth 30m.

3) he's not healthy

4) he's old

I'm really saying they should, but the won't amnesty Kobe. I'm sure some team will bid a good amount of money on Kobe and you won't get hit for the entire 30m. You're right, the time to do that has past. If Kobe and Dwight really had bad blood that could have been a negotiation tactic. Cut Kobe and sign Iggy and J-Smooth or whatever... Then at the deadline you can trade for anyone by offering expiring contracts since every player except Nash and whoever you signed is off the books next year.

Given where the team is and their prospects for this season, he's pretty much the only draw they have. Without him they'd be looking at plenty of empty seats this season. Like it or not the guy sells tickets, tshirts, jerseys, ads, t.v. programming, etc.

 

[Gr00vus]

Now Breshnehan is saying the Lakers aren't going to amnesty MWP. I suppose from a roster perspective it makes some sense. They'd have nothing at the 3 if they cut him loose. And they're not spending 30M on Howard.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Only real hope is to amnesty Kobe and his 30m. It's probably too late for that with the bigger name FA already finding teams. They are fkd capped wise because they could only sign their own players like D12. The only sign and trade I could see is bringing back Bynum but I doubt Hinkie is interested in that.

I don't really understand the point of amnestying Kobe at this time. The time to do that was before Howard left, not after. Now you'd just be begging Cuban to sign him for league minimum and laugh at your sorry ### for having to pay for most of Kobe's salary and get no benefit from it. If they amnesty MWP they'd alleviate much of their luxury tax hit. If they could find a taker for Nash or Gasol, it'd be gone altogether. Kobe's not going anywhere - suggesting that as a realistic option is as stupid as thinking the everyone wants to play for the Lakers just because they're the Lakers.

1) they can't afford him.2) he's not worth 30m.

3) he's not healthy

4) he's old

I'm really saying they should, but the won't amnesty Kobe. I'm sure some team will bid a good amount of money on Kobe and you won't get hit for the entire 30m. You're right, the time to do that has past. If Kobe and Dwight really had bad blood that could have been a negotiation tactic. Cut Kobe and sign Iggy and J-Smooth or whatever... Then at the deadline you can trade for anyone by offering expiring contracts since every player except Nash and whoever you signed is off the books next year.

Given where the team is and their prospects for this season, he's pretty much the only draw they have. Without him they'd be looking at plenty of empty seats this season. Like it or not the guy sells tickets, tshirts, jerseys, ads, t.v. programming, etc.

If you check attendance records historically winning sells tickets. From a economical standpoint keeping Kobe makes no sense in a league with a salary cap. They only play they have now is dumping expiring contracts near the deadline. LA only has 9mil commited next season.

 

[Gr00vus]

Only real hope is to amnesty Kobe and his 30m. It's probably too late for that with the bigger name FA already finding teams. They are fkd capped wise because they could only sign their own players like D12. The only sign and trade I could see is bringing back Bynum but I doubt Hinkie is interested in that.

I don't really understand the point of amnestying Kobe at this time. The time to do that was before Howard left, not after. Now you'd just be begging Cuban to sign him for league minimum and laugh at your sorry ### for having to pay for most of Kobe's salary and get no benefit from it. If they amnesty MWP they'd alleviate much of their luxury tax hit. If they could find a taker for Nash or Gasol, it'd be gone altogether. Kobe's not going anywhere - suggesting that as a realistic option is as stupid as thinking the everyone wants to play for the Lakers just because they're the Lakers.

1) they can't afford him.2) he's not worth 30m.

3) he's not healthy

4) he's old

I'm really saying they should, but the won't amnesty Kobe. I'm sure some team will bid a good amount of money on Kobe and you won't get hit for the entire 30m. You're right, the time to do that has past. If Kobe and Dwight really had bad blood that could have been a negotiation tactic. Cut Kobe and sign Iggy and J-Smooth or whatever... Then at the deadline you can trade for anyone by offering expiring contracts since every player except Nash and whoever you signed is off the books next year.

Given where the team is and their prospects for this season, he's pretty much the only draw they have. Without him they'd be looking at plenty of empty seats this season. Like it or not the guy sells tickets, tshirts, jerseys, ads, t.v. programming, etc.

If you check attendance records historically winning sells tickets. From a economical standpoint keeping Kobe makes no sense in a league with a salary cap. They only play they have now is dumping expiring contracts near the deadline. LA only has 9mil commited next season.

At this point keeping Kobe makes perfect sense, particularly if you think you might want to bring him back next year. I don't know why you keep belaboring this now after Howard is gone, you haven't really made any salient points.

 

[Abraham]

Of course they are keeping Kobe. He's a top 10 player if he returns in good health.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Only real hope is to amnesty Kobe and his 30m. It's probably too late for that with the bigger name FA already finding teams. They are fkd capped wise because they could only sign their own players like D12. The only sign and trade I could see is bringing back Bynum but I doubt Hinkie is interested in that.

I don't really understand the point of amnestying Kobe at this time. The time to do that was before Howard left, not after. Now you'd just be begging Cuban to sign him for league minimum and laugh at your sorry ### for having to pay for most of Kobe's salary and get no benefit from it. If they amnesty MWP they'd alleviate much of their luxury tax hit. If they could find a taker for Nash or Gasol, it'd be gone altogether. Kobe's not going anywhere - suggesting that as a realistic option is as stupid as thinking the everyone wants to play for the Lakers just because they're the Lakers.

1) they can't afford him.2) he's not worth 30m.

3) he's not healthy

4) he's old

I'm really saying they should, but the won't amnesty Kobe. I'm sure some team will bid a good amount of money on Kobe and you won't get hit for the entire 30m. You're right, the time to do that has past. If Kobe and Dwight really had bad blood that could have been a negotiation tactic. Cut Kobe and sign Iggy and J-Smooth or whatever... Then at the deadline you can trade for anyone by offering expiring contracts since every player except Nash and whoever you signed is off the books next year.

Given where the team is and their prospects for this season, he's pretty much the only draw they have. Without him they'd be looking at plenty of empty seats this season. Like it or not the guy sells tickets, tshirts, jerseys, ads, t.v. programming, etc.

If you check attendance records historically winning sells tickets. From a economical standpoint keeping Kobe makes no sense in a league with a salary cap. They only play they have now is dumping expiring contracts near the deadline. LA only has 9mil commited next season.

At this point keeping Kobe makes perfect sense, particularly if you think you might want to bring him back next year. I don't know why you keep belaboring this now after Howard is gone, you haven't really made any salient points.

Bring him back an you'll fight for the 7-8th seed and lose in the 1st round of the playoffs. It will be like the days when Steve Nash sent Kobe home in back-to-back season when he wasn't playing along side a dominte big (how ironic with Nash and D'Antoni as Lakers). I told all my friends last year Bynum for Dwight wasn't a dramatic upgrade even though Dwight is better. I also said this team was old as #### and you have to expect them to decline and/or get injured at this point, which is still true. Gasol and Nash are still better than a average player but they fell of a cliff compared to their usual production last season. I'm sure Dwight thought the same thing before he choose Hou. Hell, Hou summer league team might be better than the Lakers.

They are not managing the cap efficiently and they can't make any moves because of it. Without examining every roster Hou, Sa, GS, Okc, Memp, and LaC are all better teams even with a unhealthy Dwight that I watched last season. The Lakers are ####ed for a long time unless they change their game plan or the new comish "does something" like Stern would have.

 

[EYLive]

The Lakers are ####ed for a long time unless they change their game plan or the new comish "does something" like Stern would have.

You mean like block the Chris Paul trade for no reason?

 

[Daywalker]

Now Breshnehan is saying the Lakers aren't going to amnesty MWP. I suppose from a roster perspective it makes some sense. They'd have nothing at the 3 if they cut him loose. And they're not spending 30M on Howard.

His $7.7 expiring contract is worth holding onto just in case.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

The Lakers are ####ed for a long time unless they change their game plan or the new comish "does something" like Stern would have.

You mean like block the Chris Paul trade for no reason?

The reason was it was a horrible trade personnel and salary wise for the hornets and the owners of the team (the nba) thought so as well. The trade wasn't helping them on the court or for profitability. The GM should have ran the deal past his owners, knowing approval was necessary, before it being leaked in the press.

 

[pollardsvision]

Only real hope is to amnesty Kobe and his 30m. It's probably too late for that with the bigger name FA already finding teams. They are fkd capped wise because they could only sign their own players like D12. The only sign and trade I could see is bringing back Bynum but I doubt Hinkie is interested in that.

I don't really understand the point of amnestying Kobe at this time. The time to do that was before Howard left, not after. Now you'd just be begging Cuban to sign him for league minimum and laugh at your sorry ### for having to pay for most of Kobe's salary and get no benefit from it. If they amnesty MWP they'd alleviate much of their luxury tax hit. If they could find a taker for Nash or Gasol, it'd be gone altogether. Kobe's not going anywhere - suggesting that as a realistic option is as stupid as thinking the everyone wants to play for the Lakers just because they're the Lakers.

1) they can't afford him.
2) he's not worth 30m.

3) he's not healthy

4) he's old

I'm really saying they should, but the won't amnesty Kobe. I'm sure some team will bid a good amount of money on Kobe and you won't get hit for the entire 30m. You're right, the time to do that has past. If Kobe and Dwight really had bad blood that could have been a negotiation tactic. Cut Kobe and sign Iggy and J-Smooth or whatever... Then at the deadline you can trade for anyone by offering expiring contracts since every player except Nash and whoever you signed is off the books next year.

Given where the team is and their prospects for this season, he's pretty much the only draw they have. Without him they'd be looking at plenty of empty seats this season. Like it or not the guy sells tickets, tshirts, jerseys, ads, t.v. programming, etc.

If you check attendance records historically winning sells tickets. From a economical standpoint keeping Kobe makes no sense in a league with a salary cap. They only play they have now is dumping expiring contracts near the deadline. LA only has 9mil commited next season.

At this point keeping Kobe makes perfect sense, particularly if you think you might want to bring him back next year. I don't know why you keep belaboring this now after Howard is gone, you haven't really made any salient points.

Bring him back an you'll fight for the 7-8th seed and lose in the 1st round of the playoffs. It will be like the days when Steve Nash sent Kobe home in back-to-back season when he wasn't playing along side a dominte big (how ironic with Nash and D'Antoni as Lakers).I told all my friends last year Bynum for Dwight wasn't a dramatic upgrade even though Dwight is better. I also said this team was old as #### and you have to expect them to decline and/or get injured at this point, which is still true. Gasol and Nash are still better than a average player but they fell of a cliff compared to their usual production last season. I'm sure Dwight thought the same thing before he choose Hou. Hell, Hou summer league team might be better than the Lakers.

They are not managing the cap efficiently and they can't make any moves because of it. Without examining every roster Hou, Sa, GS, Okc, Memp, and LaC are all better teams even with a unhealthy Dwight that I watched last season. The Lakers are ####ed for a long time unless they change their game plan or the new comish "does something" like Stern would have.

Who are the Lakers signing that's going to matter at all this year if they amnesty Kobe?

That would be the only reason to do it, but there are no options there. It won't save them money or help them get meaningfully better.

He'd just sign somewhere else while LA still pays him. He'd probably go to a contender for the league minimum just to stick it to the Lakers.

Now, if they could find away to deal his expiring contract for some young assets, that would be great, but I'd imagine that's nearly impossible. They'd have to take back some really bad deals and anybody doing this wouldn't be forking over anybody good and young. Nobody could use a $30 mill. expiring contract more than the Lakers.