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You know who else has a rapey past? (1 Viewer)

SaintsInDome2006 said:
What I love is the analysis of her truthiness here. Challenging women's assault claims passes for ok?
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I said: " I'm not saying I don't believe her".....

My point was that what she describes is utterly perplexing behavior.  Have you ever walked around a TV studio with a bunch of sperm in your pants?  Or anywhere for that matter?  What a freak.
 

 
General Malaise said:
I said: " I'm not saying I don't believe her".....

My point was that what she describes is utterly perplexing behavior.  Have you ever walked around a TV studio with a bunch of sperm in your pants?  Or anywhere for that matter?  What a freak.
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You're right, you did say that, I overreacted, apologies. - Hey I agree I never heard the word 'hunching' before. Yeah it is downright freaky and disgusting.

 
General Malaise said:
I said: " I'm not saying I don't believe her".....

My point was that what she describes is utterly perplexing behavior.  Have you ever walked around a TV studio with a bunch of sperm in your pants?  Or anywhere for that matter?  What a freak.
 
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Wasn't that the question the Captain asked young Joey in Airplane just before he asked him if he liked movies about gladiators?

 
sublimeone said:
I dunno... didn't drudge break Lewinsky? It's news to you that right-wing media tends to do more digging on the left and vice versa?
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Kind I ask a question?  You said "Oh boy... another Clinton rape survivor tells her story".  But what she described - while absolutely vile and a crime in the form of sexual assault - isn't rape.  Do you not think you are being disingenuous here by using the word "rape survivor" when referring to Leslie Millwee?  See below:
 

Rape is defined as unwanted penetration, whether that is oral, anal, or ######l. Sexual assault refers to any unwanted sexual contact, including fondling and molestation.
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That isn't what happened according to Millwee herself, so I think you should edit your post if you at all care about your current and future credibility here.

 
I can't believe crooked D Billy is going to be back in the Whitehouse.  Let's see how many women he whips it out in front of this time.

 
Quez said:
I can't believe crooked D Billy is going to be back in the Whitehouse.  Let's see how many women he whips it out in front of this time.
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Hold up.  For the past 16 years, Bill hasn't been charged or rumored or even DRUDGED DEVELOPING to have wiggled his wang in front of any women.  Now, at the ripe old age of 70 and after quadruple bypass surgery and a collapsed lung,  he's going to start chasing the women of the White House around like Dudley Moore?  As if being inside those hallow halls will unleash the beast inside his Dockers?  Is this what passes for thought in Florida?

 
General Malaise said:
Hold up.  For the past 16 years, Bill hasn't been charged or rumored or even DRUDGED DEVELOPING to have wiggled his wang in front of any women.  Now, at the ripe old age of 70 and after quadruple bypass surgery and a collapsed lung,  he's going to start chasing the women of the White House around like Dudley Moore?  As if being inside those hallow halls will unleash the beast inside his Dockers?  Is this what passes for thought in Florida?
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Colin Powell did say that he was still "banging bimbos" at the Clinton homestead. 

 
General Malaise said:
Kind I ask a question?  You said "Oh boy... another Clinton rape survivor tells her story".  But what she described - while absolutely vile and a crime in the form of sexual assault - isn't rape.  Do you not think you are being disingenuous here by using the word "rape survivor" when referring to Leslie Millwee?  See below:
 

That isn't what happened according to Millwee herself, so I think you should edit your post if you at all care about your current and future credibility here.
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Can I ask you a question? Since this story has been posted you've questioned the choice of media outlet, the use of the phrase 'so called' and now you're focused on what is/isn't considered rape by Webster's.

If you care at all about your credibility maybe you'll address the accusations made by Millwee and how credible you find them given the fact that she did in fact have professional contact with Bill Clinton and is just one more in a long line of women accusing Clinton of this type of predatory behavior.

 
sublimeone said:
Can I ask you a question? Since this story has been posted you've questioned the choice of media outlet, the use of the phrase 'so called' and now you're focused on what is/isn't considered rape by Webster's.

If you care at all about your credibility maybe you'll address the accusations made by Millwee and how credible you find them given the fact that she did in fact have professional contact with Bill Clinton and is just one more in a long line of women accusing Clinton of this type of predatory behavior.
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No, I'm focused on why you called something 'rape' that wasn't 'rape'.  You are the one who said  it, now you need to defend yourself.  My credibility isn't at stake here.

 
AAABatteries said:
General Malaise said:
And why is she coming on Briebert?
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:popcorn:
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Ok I'll take a shot.

Full disclosure: I don't go on BB. They have ugly alt-right connotations now and the connect to Trump makes the whole thing for me unusable.

However they do have a live video of her interview so that is her speaking. I think someone should at least accept that and deal with it.

Bill's history was relevant before now to the mainstream media but typically beyond the Lewinsky stuff not addressed. The long litany of women who have accused Bill Clinton of everything from having a 12 year affair to being a philanderer to worse (assault) is well known. The MSM by and large maybe to their credit does not do that. That is left to the Enquirer and other tabloids and partisan press or European news sites.

More recently IIRC there was a WaPo or NYT rundown of Bill Clinton's 'assault' accusers. It was pretty basic. But that is all stuff that has been covered before, typically maybe with a couple exceptions like Bill Clinton's most recently alleged mistress, whom the campaign did very much care about, the press has not dug into it. And you know what, they just don't - Hart was an exception because he specifically dared the press to catch him. - But guys like Weiner and Packwood and Vitter.... they were not uncovered by the MSM.

The only thing that is "new" is this new allegation of "assault". Millwee is new. Where has she been?

She talked about the assault in her book. CBS has covered it. I don't know if other MSM has.
 

When asked why she’s speaking publicly for the first time about a decades-old assault, the former news reporter told Breitbart News she’s “very comfortable where [she is] at now in life.” She added that she wanted to share her story in 1998 when the Monica Lewinsky and Kathleen Willey narratives began unfolding, but, at the same time, Millwee said, she feared the repercussions of doing so -- how it would impact her family and career.

“And I watched the way the Clintons and Hillary slandered those women,” Millwee said in the interview. “Harassed them. Did unthinkable things to them. And I just did not want to be part of that. I had very small children at the time.”

But she wasn’t totally silent. Milwee claimed that she told three friends about her experiences with President Clinton in the 1990s. Two of the three were quoted in the original report-- verifying Millwee’s story and character.

One of them -- Richard Scott -- is a staunch Hillary Clinton supporter and even contributed small donations to the campaign. “Leslie is one of the most frank, credible people I know,” said Scott. “She is not manipulative about what she says concerning people or events she is involved in. She tells it like it is.”
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- CBS

You also have to understand the role of a governor in the capital of a small state like Arkansas. He was arguably the most powerful man in the state. and 1980 was a different time.

And the thing is, you can't really investigate claims of assault or inappropriate behavior unless the victim stands behind them.  She is now making this claim, IMO, because (1) she was outraged that Bill Clinton denied behaving like the a sexual predator he has been previously been described as by Paula Jones, Willey, Lewinsky, Broaddrick, and (2) coming out with stories like this in public is an incredibly difficult thing to do, you open yourself up to all kinds of awful stuff, so it's much easier to do once you realize you're not alone (think of the Cosby timeline). It's their right to share or not share them whenever they want, they are the victims.  The media should not be in the business of sharing their stories unless and until they want them shared.

 
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