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Your opinion on the job that President Obama is doing so far (2 Viewers)

Your opinion on the job that President Obama is doing so far

  • strongly approve

    Votes: 43 17.8%
  • mildly approve

    Votes: 43 17.8%
  • mildly disapprove

    Votes: 31 12.8%
  • strongly disapprove

    Votes: 121 50.0%
  • neutral/no opinion

    Votes: 4 1.7%

  • Total voters
    242
You say there have been 729 waivers total. So of these 729, it is your claim that "hundreds donated large sums" to the Obama campaign. Any way you could maybe provide a link to substantiate that claim? Perhaps listing the "hundreds" of these 729 and how much they donated, which I assume you know since you characterized their donations as "large"? Even that proves nothing without showing similarly situated people who didn't make such donations being refused waivers, of course. But we can cross that bridge next. Let's take care of the basics first. Link?
It's going to be investigated, the truth will come out.Isn't that what we all want? The truth?
Some of us want that. Others of us apparently prefer to come to conclusions without bothering to wait for the truth. This is very impressive backtracking and dodging. Let's try it again. Two questions:1. Do you think this is a person who is "open-minded" and waiting for the truth to come out?
Side question, why hasn't Obama been impeached yet? Granting specific monetary political favors to people that donated huge sums to your campaign seems ejection worthy to me.
2. Who are the hundreds of Obama backers who donated large sums to his campaign and were rewarded with waivers? That's exactly what you said, I want to know why you said it. I assume you know that this happened, since I'm sure someone as open-minded as yourself wouldn't fabricate an accusation like that.
 
You say there have been 729 waivers total. So of these 729, it is your claim that "hundreds donated large sums" to the Obama campaign. Any way you could maybe provide a link to substantiate that claim? Perhaps listing the "hundreds" of these 729 and how much they donated, which I assume you know since you characterized their donations as "large"? Even that proves nothing without showing similarly situated people who didn't make such donations being refused waivers, of course. But we can cross that bridge next. Let's take care of the basics first. Link?
It's going to be investigated, the truth will come out.Isn't that what we all want? The truth?

ETA: SEIU donated $16.9 Million in the 2008 campaign
That's one. Nice job. 199 more to go, depending on your definition of "hundreds." Or heck, I'll give you all seven locals, even though they are different from the central office and their individual shares of this (assuming all locals are equal) are only $100,000 or so, hardly earth-shattering political contributions. 193 left.
 
Side question, why hasn't Obama been impeached yet? Granting specific monetary political favors to people that donated huge sums to your campaign seems ejection worthy to me.
2. Who are the hundreds of Obama backers who donated large sums to his campaign and were rewarded with waivers? That's exactly what you said, I want to know why you said it. I assume you know that this happened, since I'm sure someone as open-minded as yourself wouldn't fabricate an accusation like that.
Hmmm, can't seem to find the word "hundreds" in the post you quoted.Obamacare waivers HAVE been granted to a group that donated $16.9 million dollars to his 2008 election campaign. HE GRANTED A SPECIFIC MONETARY FAVOR TO A GROUP THAT DONATED MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO HIS CAMPAIGN. I believe THAT is an impeachable offense.

What part of that are you (eta)unable to understand?

ETA for harsh language

 
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You say there have been 729 waivers total. So of these 729, it is your claim that "hundreds donated large sums" to the Obama campaign. Any way you could maybe provide a link to substantiate that claim? Perhaps listing the "hundreds" of these 729 and how much they donated, which I assume you know since you characterized their donations as "large"? Even that proves nothing without showing similarly situated people who didn't make such donations being refused waivers, of course. But we can cross that bridge next. Let's take care of the basics first. Link?
It's going to be investigated, the truth will come out.Isn't that what we all want? The truth?

ETA: SEIU donated $16.9 Million in the 2008 campaign
That's one. Nice job. 199 more to go, depending on your definition of "hundreds." Or heck, I'll give you all seven locals, even though they are different from the central office and their individual shares of this (assuming all locals are equal) are only $100,000 or so, hardly earth-shattering political contributions. 193 left.
So let me get this straight. What you're saying is that if NOT ALL of the waivers were for groups that donated money, then it shouldn't be investigated??? It has to be "hundreds"?
 
Hey, it's getting a little heated in here and we need to step back for a minute.

This thread is to bring out the truth. I have presented the truth that a group that funded Obama's campaign with millions of dollars were granted specific monetary favors.

I get a little frustrated when people don't understand that's a bad thing.

So I apologize for getting a little out of control there. My bad.

ETA: Ok, I fell for the fishing trip Tobias. You got me.

 
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Side question, why hasn't Obama been impeached yet? Granting specific monetary political favors to people that donated huge sums to your campaign seems ejection worthy to me.
2. Who are the hundreds of Obama backers who donated large sums to his campaign and were rewarded with waivers? That's exactly what you said, I want to know why you said it. I assume you know that this happened, since I'm sure someone as open-minded as yourself wouldn't fabricate an accusation like that.
Hmmm, can't seem to find the word "hundreds" in the post you quoted.Obamacare waivers HAVE been granted to a group that donated $16.9 million dollars to his 2008 election campaign. HE GRANTED A SPECIFIC MONETARY FAVOR TO A GROUP THAT DONATED MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO HIS CAMPAIGN. I believe THAT is an impeachable offense.

What part of that are you (eta)unable to understand?

ETA for harsh language
1. "Hundreds"- your word choice. Post #1174.2. People who make donations have to be eligible for the same things from their government as the rest of us. For example, who do you think bids on offshore drilling leases from the feds? How about military contracts? The sin comes only if there is a "favor," that is to say, if you can show favoritism. To do that, you'd have to show that a similarly situated group that didn't make a contribution and didn't receive the benefit. Otherwise the benefit is neither "specific" nor is it a "favor."

 
why should anyne be exempt?
Unless you can come up with health care reform that effects the 500k+ US companies and organizations equally, you're going to have some exceptions where certain entities need more time to implement the reforms w/o unfairly burdening their employees. In these situations, 1 yr exemptions are granted so that these entities can enact the reforms in a way that doesn't screw everyone in their current healthcare plans.
 
Side question, why hasn't Obama been impeached yet? Granting specific monetary political favors to people that donated huge sums to your campaign seems ejection worthy to me.
2. Who are the hundreds of Obama backers who donated large sums to his campaign and were rewarded with waivers? That's exactly what you said, I want to know why you said it. I assume you know that this happened, since I'm sure someone as open-minded as yourself wouldn't fabricate an accusation like that.
Hmmm, can't seem to find the word "hundreds" in the post you quoted.Obamacare waivers HAVE been granted to a group that donated $16.9 million dollars to his 2008 election campaign. HE GRANTED A SPECIFIC MONETARY FAVOR TO A GROUP THAT DONATED MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO HIS CAMPAIGN. I believe THAT is an impeachable offense.

What part of that are you (eta)unable to understand?

ETA for harsh language
1. "Hundreds"- your word choice. Post #1174.
The post you quoted states : "Side question, why hasn't Obama been impeached yet? Granting specific monetary political favors to people that donated huge sums to your campaign seems ejection worthy to me."And I explained that.

Like I said, it's going to be investigated and the truth will come out. That's all I want.

Am I "hoping" the findings are that Obama is in the wrong? Sure. I'll admit that. Anything that brings us closer to having Obama out of office is a good thing.

 
why should anyne be exempt?
People are exempt from statutory requirements for reasons of hardship, inconvenience or whatever all the time. Poor people are exempt from paying federal income taxes. Very small businesses are exempt from some OSHA requirements. The military is exempt from the latest pay freeze. It's not unusual nor is it hypocritical.
 
why should anyne be exempt?
Unless you can come up with health care reform that effects the 500k+ US companies and organizations equally, you're going to have some exceptions where certain entities need more time to implement the reforms w/o unfairly burdening their employees. In these situations, 1 yr exemptions are granted so that these entities can enact the reforms in a way that doesn't screw everyone in their current healthcare plans.
Doesn't hurt if they donated $16.9 million dollars to your election campaign either.
 
Side question, why hasn't Obama been impeached yet? Granting specific monetary political favors to people that donated huge sums to your campaign seems ejection worthy to me.
2. Who are the hundreds of Obama backers who donated large sums to his campaign and were rewarded with waivers? That's exactly what you said, I want to know why you said it. I assume you know that this happened, since I'm sure someone as open-minded as yourself wouldn't fabricate an accusation like that.
Hmmm, can't seem to find the word "hundreds" in the post you quoted.Obamacare waivers HAVE been granted to a group that donated $16.9 million dollars to his 2008 election campaign. HE GRANTED A SPECIFIC MONETARY FAVOR TO A GROUP THAT DONATED MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO HIS CAMPAIGN. I believe THAT is an impeachable offense.

What part of that are you (eta)unable to understand?

ETA for harsh language
1. "Hundreds"- your word choice. Post #1174.
The post you quoted states : "Side question, why hasn't Obama been impeached yet? Granting specific monetary political favors to people that donated huge sums to your campaign seems ejection worthy to me."And I explained that.

Like I said, it's going to be investigated and the truth will come out. That's all I want.

Am I "hoping" the findings are that Obama is in the wrong? Sure. I'll admit that. Anything that brings us closer to having Obama out of office is a good thing.
You seriously don't see that "why hasn't Obama been impeached yet?" is totally incompatible with "it's going to be investigated and the truth will come out. That's all I want."?Let's say I said "Stat has been breaking FFA rules. Why hasn't he been IP banned already?,"* and then I couldn't provide any evidence you had broken a single FFA rule. And I said, "well, Joe is investigating, the truth will come out. That's all I want." The second thing I said is a nice sentiment, but it doesn't make me any less of a close-minded judgmental #### for the first thing I said.

* Not that I'd ever want you banned. I very much enjoy your schtick as long as it follows the basic rules of logic and reason.

 
This thread is to bring out the truth. I have presented the truth that a group that funded Obama's campaign with millions of dollars were granted specific monetary favors.
Stat, I always assume every post of yours is a disengenuous fishing expedition, but this one actually appears to be genuine. If so, I applaud you. Your heart is in the right place. However ...

1) While this one instance of correlation between political donor and acquired government benefit looks bad, this is just the tip of the iceberg, and certainly is not exclusive to Obama. (Point of fact, Obama's presidential campaign featured the largest number of small donors, measured both in gross amounts and as a percentage of total donations, than any Presidential campaign since they started tracking these figures. It seems odd that you would ignore this seedy side of politics up until Obama became president. There were many of us on the board railing about the Bush administration's favors given to their corporate campaign sponsors.

2) Just because there's an apparent quid pro quo, does not mean one begat the other. Correlation does not necessarily mean causation (for Obama, Bush, and every other politician out there). Sometimes people give money to political campaigns because they like what the candidate stands for (such as helping out American labor by making health care more available, or the mining industry by opening up federal lands to long-term leases, etc.). There may be evidence of corruption. But there may not be any, too.

 
This thread is to bring out the truth. I have presented the truth that a group that funded Obama's campaign with millions of dollars were granted specific monetary favors.
Stat, I always assume every post of yours is a disengenuous fishing expedition, but this one actually appears to be genuine. If so, I applaud you. Your heart is in the right place. However ...

1) While this one instance of correlation between political donor and acquired government benefit looks bad, this is just the tip of the iceberg, and certainly is not exclusive to Obama. (Point of fact, Obama's presidential campaign featured the largest number of small donors, measured both in gross amounts and as a percentage of total donations, than any Presidential campaign since they started tracking these figures. It seems odd that you would ignore this seedy side of politics up until Obama became president. There were many of us on the board railing about the Bush administration's favors given to their corporate campaign sponsors.

2) Just because there's an apparent quid pro quo, does not mean one begat the other. Correlation does not necessarily mean causation (for Obama, Bush, and every other politician out there). Sometimes people give money to political campaigns because they like what the candidate stands for (such as helping out American labor by making health care more available, or the mining industry by opening up federal lands to long-term leases, etc.). There may be evidence of corruption. But there may not be any, too.
:excited: Very good points. Again, the House has subpoena power and should have the ability to thoroughly investigate this matter. Hopefully the "everybody does it" culture of politics doesn't factor in the investigation.

You've got to admit though, it does seem fishy that one of his largest campaign contributors gets protection from an oppressive new law.

 
Ex-Ambassador Left Luxembourg Embassy in 'State of Dysfunction,' Watchdog Finds
Described as "aggressive, bullying, hostile, and intimidating," President Obama's ambassador to Luxembourg left the U.S. embassy there "in a state of dysfunction" and unable to carry out its duties after her recent exit, according to report released this week by the State Department Inspector General. Cynthia Stroum, one of President Obama’s top 25 fundraisers -- a bundler who raised more than $500,000 for the his campaign -- was chosen for ambassador in 2009. Since then, auditors say her autocratic, bossy and demanding style led to complete failure of the embassy in Luxembourg's ability to function as an arm of the U.S. government in one of the world's smallest and wealthiest nations.
Good job obama...
 
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/...ies_108799.html

Obama's Pattern of Shunning U.S. Allies

By Jed Babbin February 7, 2011

Every president's foreign policy is labeled his "doctrine." President Monroe's was that no European power would be permitted to dominate part of the Western Hemisphere. President Reagan's was "peace through strength", accelerating the demise of the Soviets.

What is the Obama Doctrine? After two years of his presidency, President Obama has defined a doctrine aimed at reducing America from "superpower" to "also-ran."

By shunning allies and empowering enemies, by reducing military strength, Obama is reducing our ability to protect allies and pursue interests abroad. Given his record, it's no longer possible to accuse Obama of naivete: He is at work pursuing his goal.

Obama revealed this goal in the context of Middle Eastern conflicts, saying, "It is a vital national security interest of the United States to reduce these conflicts because whether we like it or not, we remain a dominant military superpower, and when conflicts break out, one way or another we get pulled into them, and that ends up costing us significantly in terms of both blood and treasure."

Not that America is justly proud of its ability to protect ourselves and allies, to protect freedom and pursue our interests globally. Not that we are a force for good.

"Whether we like it or not, we remain a dominant military superpower." That dominance has kept much of the world free since World War II. Obama aims to end it.

Obama began implementing his doctrine within days of inauguration. He symbolically ended the "special relationship" between Britain and America by inexplicably returning their gift of a bust of Prime Minister Winston Churchill, which for years had watched over the Oval Office.

Soon after, when Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu visited the White House, Obama treated him as an enemy, not as our only ally in the Middle East, creating a distrust we cannot afford.

Obama's defining moment occurred in June 2009 when the Honduran supreme court ordered the removal of President Jose Manuel Zelaya for violating the Honduran constitution by trying to stay in power past his term.

Obama didn't stand with freedom-loving Hondurans and for American principle. Instead, he sided with Cuban President Raul Castro and Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, condemning the "coup."

Casting the Pentagon's future not in steel but in glass, Obama and Defense Secretary Robert Gates have reduced or eliminated most key weapon systems -- ranging from F-22 fighters to the DDX-1000 stealthy combatant ship -- which would have maintained the technological superiority that our forces have depended on since the Korean War to win quickly and decisively.

Meeting with Russian President Dmitri Medvedev in Japan on Nov. 13, Obama assured him that ratification of the new START agreement was top priority.

That new agreement -- for the first time -- links missile defense to offensive nuclear weapons. It enables the Russians to abandon obligations to reduce their arsenal if we pursue missile defenses not to their liking.

Conservatives, led by Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., wanted a full debate on the treaty in the new Congress, but Obama insisted that it had to be immediately ratified.

With the help of nearly a dozen Republican defectors, it was ratified in November. The Russians -- contemptuous of Obama's weakness -- delayed their own vote until January.

In two short years, "hope and change" have taken us from "peace through strength" to weakness that will embolden our enemies everywhere.

(Jed Babbin served as a Deputy Undersecretary of Defense under George H.W. Bush.)
 
Obama proposing 42 Billion bailout to states. Hope Fox gets out in front of this latest bailout and the House has the will to stop it.

He just doesn't understand the November election.

 
Obama shamelessly says he hasn't raised taxes

Even Obama shill group PolitiFact called him out on this one

The idea that Obama did not raise taxes is just plain wrong. He signed legislation raising taxes on cigarettes and other tobacco products soon after taking office; that money goes to pay for children’s health insurance programs. The law went into effect in 2009. He also signed the health care law, which includes taxes on indoor tanning that went into effect last year. (Regular PolitiFact readers will remember our fact-check of reality TV star Snooki and her complaint about the new tax last year.)

The new health care law also includes a tax on people who decide not to have health insurance, as an incentive for them to get coverage. The tax phases in gradually, starting in 2014. By 2016, the tax would be $695 per uninsured person up to a maximum of three times that amount, or $2,085. The law includes exemptions for people who can’t find affordable insurance, and a few other special circumstances.

More significantly, the health care law includes new taxes on the wealthy, starting in 2013. Individuals who make more than $200,000 and couples that make more than $250,000 will see additional Medicare taxes of 0.9 percent. They will also, for the first time, have to pay Medicare taxes on their investment income at a 3.8 percent rate. (Current law is that all workers and employers split a 2.9 percent Medicare tax; the self-employed pay all of it.)
 
Obama betrays Great Britain

Since this is the historical archive for all things Obama, felt like this needed to be in here.

When spies give military secrets to a foreign power, it's espionage. When an American president does it, betraying an ally to befriend a longtime foe, what do we call it?

According to diplomatic cables obtained by Britain's Daily Telegraph, mined from the thousands of classified documents released by WikiLeaks, the U.S. government agreed to provide Russia with information on the British nuclear deterrent as part of the deal behind the ratification and signing of the New START treaty.

Specifically, the Telegraph reports, the U.S. provided Moscow with the serial numbers of each Trident missile in the British ballistic missile submarine inventory. The Russians presumably already know how many Tridents the British have but can't be sure. British policy has been to refuse to confirm the exact size of its relatively tiny arsenal.

Last year, British Foreign Secretary William Hague disclosed that Britain had "up to 160" warheads operational at any one time, but he did not disclose the total number of missiles and warheads in its nuclear inventory. Duncan Lennox, editor of Jane's Strategic Weapons Systems, says: "They want to find out whether Britain has more missiles than we say we have, and having the unique identifiers might help them."

The State Department denies this, and spokesman P.J. Crowley said via Twitter that the U.S. simply "carried forward requirement to notify Russia about U.S.-UK nuclear cooperation from the 1991 treaty." So why did we, according to the Telegraph, have to ask Britain in 2009 for permission with detailed and classified information on the British Tridents, permission that was reportedly denied?

Indeed, according to one leaked memo, "the Russian Federation will receive unique identifiers for each of the missiles transferred to the UK, which was more information than was disclosed under START." So the State Department seems to have gone above and beyond the call of duty.

The British have quietly gone along with the State Department explanation, but then why wouldn't they? It wouldn't serve the new government of Prime Minister David Cameron well to acknowledge, after a series of snubs and insults from this side of the pond, that the U.S. had just thrown it under the strategic bus.

That we would betray Britain's nuclear secrets would not be surprising, since we are quite willing to betray our own. Before a recent U.N. conference on nuclear nonproliferation, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton announced: "Beginning today, the United States will make public the number of nuclear weapons in our stockpile and the number of weapons we have dismantled since 1991."

START, both old and new, has disclosure and verification requirements. Yet some secrets are and should be maintained, especially in regard to a historical ally that was not a party to the treaty and wishes to maintain a certain degree of confidentiality.

Our special relationship with Britain seems to have deteriorated into a special animus. Perhaps to this administration it was an inconvenient reminder of the days of Reagan and Thatcher, when the U.S. led the world instead of apologizing to it. It was a day when we and our presidents believed in American exceptionalism, not that at a meeting such as the G-20 we were just one of the gang.

It was President Obama who returned a bust of Winston Churchill loaned to President George W. Bush from the British Government's art collection after the Sept. 11 attacks. During a visit by the president of France, it was President Obama who proclaimed to British chagrin: "We don't have a stronger friend and stronger ally than Nicolas Sarkozy and the French people."

Well, we did. Certainly the British people must be wondering, with friends like these ...
 
Obama proposing 42 Billion bailout to states. Hope Fox gets out in front of this latest bailout and the House has the will to stop it.He just doesn't understand the November election.
Its those commie unions driving this Nazi fest.(Hope Tim enjoys that.)
 
Obama uses taxpayer money to stick it to business (job creators) again

In an unprecedented and controversial move, the White House has launched a new program at the Department of Labor which will refer workers who have complaints about their bosses to a toll free number at the American Bar Association, where they can get a lawyer to work on their case on a contingency fee basis.

More than 40,000 workers annually contact the Department of Labor with complaints about their bosses. But Labor can’t get to all of them, an estimated 10%, because of budget constraints, the White House says.
 
Obama shamelessly says he hasn't raised taxes

Even Obama shill group PolitiFact called him out on this one

The idea that Obama did not raise taxes is just plain wrong. He signed legislation raising taxes on cigarettes and other tobacco products soon after taking office; that money goes to pay for children’s health insurance programs. The law went into effect in 2009. He also signed the health care law, which includes taxes on indoor tanning that went into effect last year. (Regular PolitiFact readers will remember our fact-check of reality TV star Snooki and her complaint about the new tax last year.)

The new health care law also includes a tax on people who decide not to have health insurance, as an incentive for them to get coverage. The tax phases in gradually, starting in 2014. By 2016, the tax would be $695 per uninsured person up to a maximum of three times that amount, or $2,085. The law includes exemptions for people who can’t find affordable insurance, and a few other special circumstances.

More significantly, the health care law includes new taxes on the wealthy, starting in 2013. Individuals who make more than $200,000 and couples that make more than $250,000 will see additional Medicare taxes of 0.9 percent. They will also, for the first time, have to pay Medicare taxes on their investment income at a 3.8 percent rate. (Current law is that all workers and employers split a 2.9 percent Medicare tax; the self-employed pay all of it.)
And what about all of the tax cuts he's signed into law? How do the amount of taxes cut compare to the projected amount f taxes raised? If Obama's tax cuts are larger than these tax increases, shouldn't he get to claim in a short soundbite that he should be known as a President who cut taxes, rather than be called out for raising taxes? Or must he qualify every single statement with a five minute long explanation about how the few tax increases were targeted at small groups to incentivize certain behavior and that, on the whole, almost every person in America pays fewer taxes today than when he took office?
 
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/...ies_108799.html

Obama's Pattern of Shunning U.S. Allies

By Jed Babbin February 7, 2011

Every president's foreign policy is labeled his "doctrine." President Monroe's was that no European power would be permitted to dominate part of the Western Hemisphere. President Reagan's was "peace through strength", accelerating the demise of the Soviets.

What is the Obama Doctrine? After two years of his presidency, President Obama has defined a doctrine aimed at reducing America from "superpower" to "also-ran."

By shunning allies and empowering enemies, by reducing military strength, Obama is reducing our ability to protect allies and pursue interests abroad. Given his record, it's no longer possible to accuse Obama of naivete: He is at work pursuing his goal.
That's the biggest pile of steaming crap I've read in some time.
 
ABC News - A clear eyed look at the Obama Administrations full two year record on reform in Egypt

An accounting of the full two years of President Obama’s policy towards Egypt – prior to January 25, 2011 – may be in order.

As ably covered by the Washington Post’s Fact Checker – and former State Department reporter – Glenn Kessler, the Obama administration was far more quiet on the need for Egypt to engage in serious political reform, at least publicly, than the Bush administration.

Perhaps more glaringly, while the Bush administration tried to directly fund civil society in Egypt – pro-democracy groups and the like – the Obama administration changed that policy and cut funding significantly, ending an effort to provide direct funding to democracy groups not “approved” by the Egyptian government, and reduced funding in the budget for programs to promote civil society groups.

As Kessler writes: Bush’s final budget “proposed spending $45 million on democracy and good-governance programs in Egypt, including more than $20 million on promoting civil society…But that nascent effort was largely shelved when the Obama administration took office. For fiscal year 2009, the administration immediately halved the money for democracy promotion in Egypt; the civil society funds were slashed 70 percent, to $7 million. Meanwhile, money that was to be given directly to civil society groups was eliminated and the administration agreed to once again fund only those institutions that had Mubarak's seal of approval.”

Freedom House in 2009 wrote that the Obama Administration “should reassess this reduction in support and strengthen its diplomatic efforts on behalf of independent democracy and human rights activists in this important country."

In 2010, Freedom House wrote: "We have serious concerns about the US Government decision to stop funding civil society groups not registered with the Egyptian Ministry of Social Solidarity, essentially giving the Egyptian Government veto power over who receives funding from USAID. Not only is this decision harmful to civil society groups in Egypt, it sets a dangerous precedent in terms of U.S. foreign assistance."

President Obama has in the last month been speaking quite loudly about the need for reform in Egypt – and former senior adviser David Axelrod told us that the president privately has been confronting Mubarak on the need for reform.

But Kessler notes that the first public, direct call for reform in Egypt by President Obama came on January 28, 2011, after President Mubarak announced he was dissolving his Cabinet following mass demonstrations in the streets of Cairo.

“No matter what was said in private, or how forcefully, the public message sent by the Obama administration over the past two years was that democracy and human rights in Egypt was not a top priority,” Kessler writes. “When given the opportunity to use the biggest megaphone in the world--the voice of the president of the United States--the words were whispered, if said at all.”
 
As Kessler writes: Bush’s final budget “proposed spending $45 million on democracy and good-governance programs in Egypt, including more than $20 million on promoting civil society…But that nascent effort was largely shelved when the Obama administration took office. For fiscal year 2009, the administration immediately halved the money for democracy promotion in Egypt; the civil society funds were slashed 70 percent, to $7 million. Meanwhile, money that was to be given directly to civil society groups was eliminated and the administration agreed to once again fund only those institutions that had Mubarak's seal of approval.”
Did Bush ever give money to non-government approved groups to promote democracy?If not, this is good shtick for Obama to use if a Republican wins in 2016.
 
This is the kind of bad big govt we will get from the new GOP

Statement on Governor Walker's Request to Eliminate Collective-Bargaining Rights

February 11, 2011

"Governor Walker’s request to the State Legislature to eliminate nearly all of the collective-bargaining rights for thousands of Wisconsin workers is big government at its worst. No private employer can do what the governor proposes, nor should it. For decades, Wisconsin has protected the rights of workers to collectively bargain with their employer on wages, benefits, workplace rules, and many other aspects of their employment. The governor is wrong to suggest that public workers are responsible for the state’s budget woes, and he is wrong to use that bogus excuse to strip them of rights that millions of other American workers have."

 
Am I "hoping" the findings are that Obama is in the wrong? Sure. I'll admit that. Anything that brings us closer to having Obama out of office is a good thing.
Starorama,I respect your views and have learned some things from the news that you post, but as an American (left leaning) how is getting Obama out of office as an impeachment a good thing for America? You may not like him or his policies, but just like the Dems had to put up with Bush and the stuff he did that we did not like. I cannot see how it would be a good day to have a sitting president impeached be a good thing. Wondering why you feel it would be. I personally see the economy tanking even more if it did happen.
 
Am I "hoping" the findings are that Obama is in the wrong? Sure. I'll admit that. Anything that brings us closer to having Obama out of office is a good thing.
Starorama,I respect your views and have learned some things from the news that you post, but as an American (left leaning) how is getting Obama out of office as an impeachment a good thing for America? You may not like him or his policies, but just like the Dems had to put up with Bush and the stuff he did that we did not like. I cannot see how it would be a good day to have a sitting president impeached be a good thing. Wondering why you feel it would be. I personally see the economy tanking even more if it did happen.
We need someone in there whose primary concern isn't the 2012 re-election campaign. We need a President that's going to truly LEAD. What he's doing now is abdicating his responsibilities onto the House of Representatives, so that he can paint them as "the bad guys that want to take your free stuff away". So the Reps in the House fall right into the trap and are going to be pushing for huge entitlement reforms, because that's what's needed.Barack is like a kid in the cereal aisle, wanting 12 different cereals. The House is saying we can only afford 1 or 2. Barack will then go into his spasm on the floor crying and whining that he wants ALL OF THEMWe need adult, responsible, intelligent leadership in the Oval Office. We have none of those things right now.
 
Noted liberal news source McClatchy catches Obama in a lie

Obama says he'd stop adding to debt, but that's not true

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama's claim Tuesday that his proposed budget would stop adding to the national debt is wrong — and is proved wrong in his own budget.

"We will not be adding more to the national debt," he said flatly Tuesday at a news conference. "To use a sort of an analogy that families are familiar with, we're not going to be running up the credit card anymore. That's important, and that's hard to do. But it's necessary to do."

However, his budget shows that the gross national debt would continue to rise every year under his proposal, almost doubling from $13.5 trillion last year to $26.3 trillion in fiscal 2021.

What's that mean about Obama's statement Tuesday?

"It's not true," said Robert Bixby, the director of the Concord Coalition, a nonpartisan budget watchdog group.

Obama bases his claim on the notion that his budget would bring government spending — except for interest on the national debt — in line with government revenues by fiscal 2017, reaching what he and his aides call "primary balance." That's a new bit of budget jargon designed to mask how much the debt costs the government annually.

"By the middle of this decade our annual spending will match our annual revenues," the president said Tuesday.

He overlooks the fact that the government still would have to borrow to pay interest on the debt, much of it run up on his watch. Despite achieving "primary balance" in fiscal 2017, the government would have to borrow $627 billion to pay $627 billion in interest. Interest payments would rise annually through 2021.

Debt would rise as well, according to Obama's proposed budget. Despite the budget reaching "primary balance," the total gross government debt would rise from $21.9 trillion in fiscal 2017 to $22.9 trillion in 2018, $24 trillion in 2019, $25.2 trillion in 2020 and $26.3 trillion in 2021.

In all, the debt would jump by nearly $4.5 trillion in the four years after the government supposedly would stop adding to the debt because it had achieved "primary balance" — and that's according to his own budget.

The White House Office of Management and Budget said the debt was being increased to pay for the costs of the recession and that it would stabilize when measured as a share of the economy.

"The projected increase in federal debt over the next few years is due largely to short-term factors, particularly the need to deal with this extraordinary economic situation," the White House said Tuesday in response to McClatchy's inquiry.

"Once the economy recovers, and the deficit declines toward about 3 percent of GDP, the debt-to-GDP ratio will stabilize. The first step is to stop the debt from increasing, and the president's budget accomplishes that goal."

That may be true, but it's misleading, Bixby said.

"You'd still be running a deficit. So you'd still have to borrow to pay interest. You'd still be adding to the debt. ...It's loose rhetoric. It's literally not true."
 
Matt Welch at Reason has an opinion:

Is This How a President Should Act?

Matt Welch | February 18, 2011

From the Washington Post:

The president's political machine worked in close coordination Thursday with state and national union officials to mobilize thousands of protesters to gather in Madison and to plan similar demonstrations in other state capitals.

Their efforts began to spread, as thousands of labor supporters turned out for a hearing in Columbus, Ohio, to protest a measure from Gov. John Kasich ® that would cut collective-bargaining rights.

By the end of the day, Democratic Party officials were working to organize additional demonstrations in Ohio and Indiana, where an effort is underway to trim benefits for public workers. Some union activists predicted similar protests in Missouri, New Jersey and Pennsylvania. [...]

The White House political operation, Organizing for America, got involved Monday, after Democratic National Committee Chairman Timothy M. Kaine, a former Virginia governor, spoke to union leaders in Madison, a party official said.

The group made phone calls, distributed messages via Twitter and Facebook, and sent e-mails to its state and national lists to try to build crowds for rallies Wednesday and Thursday, a party official said.
Just think–there once was a time (for more than a century, actually), when the president of the United States thought it too imperious to deliver the State of the Union via a speech to a joint session of Congress, since that would smack of telling a co-equal branch of government what to do. Now we have a president not just taking rhetorical sides in a state issue, but actively mobilizing his political organization to affect the outcome(s), even though (to my knowledge) nothing that Gov. Walker or any other belated statehouse cost-cutter is doing has a damned thing to do with federal law.Actually, "Hosni Hitler" is not a bad band nameI have written in the past about how libertarians are pretty lonely in the political scheme of things in terms of constantly being challenged to defend themselves against the "logical conclusion" of their philosophy. But I think it's time to amend that. We are witnessing the logical conclusion of the Democratic Party's philosophy, and it is this: Your tax dollars exist to make public sector unions happy. When we run out of other people's money to pay for those contracts and promises (most of which are negotiated outside of public view, often between union officials and the politicians that union officials helped elect), then we just need to raise taxes to cover a shortfall that is obviously Wall Street's fault. Anyone who doesn't agree is a bully, and might just bear an uncanny resemblance to Hitler.

The president's heavy-handed involvement, along with House Republicans' refusal to sign off on any new bailout of the states, means that this may very well be America's biggest and most widespread political fight in 2011. It's a cage match to determine first dibs on a shrinking pie. A clarifying moment.
 
Since the title asks for opinions on Obama, positive opinions should also be involved. On Friday economist Paul Krugman shared just such an opinion:

"What would a serious approach to our fiscal problems involve? I can summarize it in seven words: health care, health care, health care, revenue.[...]So anyone who is really serious about the budget should be focusing mainly on health care. And by focusing, I don’t mean writing down a number and expecting someone else to make that number happen — a dodge known in the trade as a “magic asterisk.” I mean getting behind specific actions to rein in costs.What would real action on health look like? Well, it might include things like giving an independent commission the power to ensure that Medicare only pays for procedures with real medical value; rewarding health care providers for delivering quality care rather than simply paying a fixed sum for every procedure; limiting the tax deductibility of private insurance plans; and so on.And what do these things have in common? They’re all in last year’s health reform bill.That’s why I say that Mr. Obama gets too little credit. He has done more to rein in long-run deficits than any previous president."
 
Since the title asks for opinions on Obama, positive opinions should also be involved. On Friday economist Paul Krugman shared just such an opinion:

"What would a serious approach to our fiscal problems involve? I can summarize it in seven words: health care, health care, health care, revenue.[...]So anyone who is really serious about the budget should be focusing mainly on health care. And by focusing, I don’t mean writing down a number and expecting someone else to make that number happen — a dodge known in the trade as a “magic asterisk.” I mean getting behind specific actions to rein in costs.What would real action on health look like? Well, it might include things like giving an independent commission the power to ensure that Medicare only pays for procedures with real medical value; rewarding health care providers for delivering quality care rather than simply paying a fixed sum for every procedure; limiting the tax deductibility of private insurance plans; and so on.And what do these things have in common? They’re all in last year’s health reform bill.That’s why I say that Mr. Obama gets too little credit. He has done more to rein in long-run deficits than any previous president."
Krugman can say those things; hell, he may even believe them, but it doesn't make them true. Last year's health care bill will do nothing to rein in long term health care costs.ETA: The fact that it doesn't curb costs doesn't necessarily make it a bad bill. To tell the truth, I'm not sure if the bill is overall good or bad, in a vacuum. What I do believe, unfortunately, is that the existence of the bill significantly hampers the future possibility of a truly good bill that would really lower costs in a meaningful way.
 
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Since the title asks for opinions on Obama, positive opinions should also be involved. On Friday economist Paul Krugman shared just such an opinion:

"What would a serious approach to our fiscal problems involve? I can summarize it in seven words: health care, health care, health care, revenue.[...]

So anyone who is really serious about the budget should be focusing mainly on health care. And by focusing, I don’t mean writing down a number and expecting someone else to make that number happen — a dodge known in the trade as a “magic asterisk.” I mean getting behind specific actions to rein in costs.

What would real action on health look like? Well, it might include things like giving an independent commission the power to ensure that Medicare only pays for procedures with real medical value; rewarding health care providers for delivering quality care rather than simply paying a fixed sum for every procedure; limiting the tax deductibility of private insurance plans; and so on.

And what do these things have in common? They’re all in last year’s health reform bill.

That’s why I say that Mr. Obama gets too little credit. He has done more to rein in long-run deficits than any previous president."
Krugman can say those things; hell, he may even believe them, but it doesn't make them true. Last year's health care bill will do nothing to rein in long term health care costs.ETA: The fact that it doesn't curb costs doesn't necessarily make it a bad bill. To tell the truth, I'm not sure if the bill is overall good or bad, in a vacuum. What I do believe, unfortunately, is that the existence of the bill significantly hampers the future possibility of a truly good bill that would really lower costs in a meaningful way.
Krugman probably figures he has no credibility left after the Tucson-Giffords incident so what the hell just toss it out there.
 
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CBO says Obamacare repeal would save $1.4 TRILLION dollars

Just something for those that consider the CBO relevant

In a letter to House Speaker John Boehner (R., Ohio), CBO Director Douglas Elmendorf writes:

The enacted legislation contained a set of provisions designed to expand health insurance coverage that was estimated to increase federal deficits. The costs of those coverage expansions—which include the cost of the subsidies to be provided through the exchanges, increased outlays for Medicaid and the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP), and tax credits for certain small employers—will be partially offset by revenues from the excise tax on high-premium insurance plans and net savings from other coverage-related effects. By repealing those coverage provisions of PPACA and the Reconciliation Act, over the 2012-2021 period H.R. 2 would yield gross savings of $1,390 billion and net savings (after accounting for the offsets just mentioned) of $1,042 billion.
 
CBO says Obamacare repeal would save $1.4 TRILLION dollars

Just something for those that consider the CBO relevant

In a letter to House Speaker John Boehner (R., Ohio), CBO Director Douglas Elmendorf writes:

The enacted legislation contained a set of provisions designed to expand health insurance coverage that was estimated to increase federal deficits. The costs of those coverage expansions—which include the cost of the subsidies to be provided through the exchanges, increased outlays for Medicaid and the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP), and tax credits for certain small employers—will be partially offset by revenues from the excise tax on high-premium insurance plans and net savings from other coverage-related effects. By repealing those coverage provisions of PPACA and the Reconciliation Act, over the 2012-2021 period H.R. 2 would yield gross savings of $1,390 billion and net savings (after accounting for the offsets just mentioned) of $1,042 billion.
Funny how the full story never quite makes it into the analysis...
In a letter to House Speaker John Boehner (R., Ohio), CBO Director Douglas Elmendorf writes:

The enacted legislation contained a set of provisions designed to expand health insurance coverage that was estimated to increase federal deficits. The costs of those coverage expansions—which include the cost of the subsidies to be provided through the exchanges, increased outlays for Medicaid and the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP), and tax credits for certain small employers—will be partially offset by revenues from the excise tax on high-premium insurance plans and net savings from other coverage-related effects. By repealing those coverage provisions of PPACA and the Reconciliation Act, over the 2012-2021 period H.R. 2 would yield gross savings of $1,390 billion and net savings (after accounting for the offsets just mentioned) of $1,042 billion.

PPACA and the Reconciliation Act also included a number of other provisions related to health care that were estimated to reduce net federal outlays (primarily for Medicare). By repealing those provisions, H.R. 2 would increase other direct spending in the next decade by $732 billion.

The enacted legislation will increase federal revenues (apart from the effect of provisions related to insurance coverage), mostly by increasing the Hospital Insurance payroll tax and imposing fees on certain manufacturers and insurers. Repealing those provisions would reduce revenues by an estimated $520 billion over the 2012-2021 period.

H.R. 2 would, on net, increase federal deficits over the next decade because the net savings from eliminating the coverage provisions would be more than offset by the combination of other spending increases and revenue reductions.

In total, CBO and JCT estimate that H.R. 2 would reduce outlays by about $604 billion and reduce revenues by about $813 billion over the 2012-2021 period (see Table 2).
 
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Matt Welch at Reason has an opinion:

Is This How a President Should Act?

Matt Welch | February 18, 2011

From the Washington Post:

The president's political machine worked in close coordination Thursday with state and national union officials to mobilize thousands of protesters to gather in Madison and to plan similar demonstrations in other state capitals.

Their efforts began to spread, as thousands of labor supporters turned out for a hearing in Columbus, Ohio, to protest a measure from Gov. John Kasich ® that would cut collective-bargaining rights.

By the end of the day, Democratic Party officials were working to organize additional demonstrations in Ohio and Indiana, where an effort is underway to trim benefits for public workers. Some union activists predicted similar protests in Missouri, New Jersey and Pennsylvania. [...]

The White House political operation, Organizing for America, got involved Monday, after Democratic National Committee Chairman Timothy M. Kaine, a former Virginia governor, spoke to union leaders in Madison, a party official said.

The group made phone calls, distributed messages via Twitter and Facebook, and sent e-mails to its state and national lists to try to build crowds for rallies Wednesday and Thursday, a party official said.
Just think–there once was a time (for more than a century, actually), when the president of the United States thought it too imperious to deliver the State of the Union via a speech to a joint session of Congress, since that would smack of telling a co-equal branch of government what to do. Now we have a president not just taking rhetorical sides in a state issue, but actively mobilizing his political organization to affect the outcome(s), even though (to my knowledge) nothing that Gov. Walker or any other belated statehouse cost-cutter is doing has a damned thing to do with federal law.Actually, "Hosni Hitler" is not a bad band nameI have written in the past about how libertarians are pretty lonely in the political scheme of things in terms of constantly being challenged to defend themselves against the "logical conclusion" of their philosophy. But I think it's time to amend that. We are witnessing the logical conclusion of the Democratic Party's philosophy, and it is this: Your tax dollars exist to make public sector unions happy. When we run out of other people's money to pay for those contracts and promises (most of which are negotiated outside of public view, often between union officials and the politicians that union officials helped elect), then we just need to raise taxes to cover a shortfall that is obviously Wall Street's fault. Anyone who doesn't agree is a bully, and might just bear an uncanny resemblance to Hitler.

The president's heavy-handed involvement, along with House Republicans' refusal to sign off on any new bailout of the states, means that this may very well be America's biggest and most widespread political fight in 2011. It's a cage match to determine first dibs on a shrinking pie. A clarifying moment.
This will be a turning point for obama...He is pandering to his base and will lose everyone else...

Just more of his "they are the enemy" shtick...

This just goes to show that the November election meant nothing to him...

 
Matt Welch at Reason has an opinion:

Is This How a President Should Act?

Matt Welch | February 18, 2011

From the Washington Post:

The president's political machine worked in close coordination Thursday with state and national union officials to mobilize thousands of protesters to gather in Madison and to plan similar demonstrations in other state capitals.

Their efforts began to spread, as thousands of labor supporters turned out for a hearing in Columbus, Ohio, to protest a measure from Gov. John Kasich ® that would cut collective-bargaining rights.

By the end of the day, Democratic Party officials were working to organize additional demonstrations in Ohio and Indiana, where an effort is underway to trim benefits for public workers. Some union activists predicted similar protests in Missouri, New Jersey and Pennsylvania. [...]

The White House political operation, Organizing for America, got involved Monday, after Democratic National Committee Chairman Timothy M. Kaine, a former Virginia governor, spoke to union leaders in Madison, a party official said.

The group made phone calls, distributed messages via Twitter and Facebook, and sent e-mails to its state and national lists to try to build crowds for rallies Wednesday and Thursday, a party official said.
Just think–there once was a time (for more than a century, actually), when the president of the United States thought it too imperious to deliver the State of the Union via a speech to a joint session of Congress, since that would smack of telling a co-equal branch of government what to do. Now we have a president not just taking rhetorical sides in a state issue, but actively mobilizing his political organization to affect the outcome(s), even though (to my knowledge) nothing that Gov. Walker or any other belated statehouse cost-cutter is doing has a damned thing to do with federal law.Actually, "Hosni Hitler" is not a bad band nameI have written in the past about how libertarians are pretty lonely in the political scheme of things in terms of constantly being challenged to defend themselves against the "logical conclusion" of their philosophy. But I think it's time to amend that. We are witnessing the logical conclusion of the Democratic Party's philosophy, and it is this: Your tax dollars exist to make public sector unions happy. When we run out of other people's money to pay for those contracts and promises (most of which are negotiated outside of public view, often between union officials and the politicians that union officials helped elect), then we just need to raise taxes to cover a shortfall that is obviously Wall Street's fault. Anyone who doesn't agree is a bully, and might just bear an uncanny resemblance to Hitler.

The president's heavy-handed involvement, along with House Republicans' refusal to sign off on any new bailout of the states, means that this may very well be America's biggest and most widespread political fight in 2011. It's a cage match to determine first dibs on a shrinking pie. A clarifying moment.
This will be a turning point for obama...He is pandering to his base and will lose everyone else...

Just more of his "they are the enemy" shtick...

This just goes to show that the November election meant nothing to him...
It could be. The tide of public opinion has turned against unions. Either he reverses that, or this is yet another reason people are voting against him in 2012.
 
Gallup finds that Obama is tied with a generic republican in 2012 election preferences at 45%-45%. 63% of voters age 18-34 backed Obama in 2008, but that number has fallen to 51%. Obama trails in all other age groups.
 
I think from here on out Obama is in campaign mode. He's gonna play it as middle of the road as he can to get re-elected and hope the economy recovers faster than expected.

 
Obama's war on democracy

Message to Wisconsin taxpayers: President Obama and the Democratic National Committee have declared war on you. Message to other states: You're next.

The political unrest in Wisconsin, billed as some kind of grass-roots uprising, is being organized and directed by Barack Obama's Organizing for America and the Democratic National Committee. This development is consistent with Mr. Obama's instructions for supporters to "get in the face" of those who oppose them, but in this case, they are seeking to derail a lawful legislative process.

On Thursday, 14 Democratic state lawmakers fled Wisconsin's capital to prevent the legislature from conducting official business. Dan Grandone, state director for the president's campaign apparatus, accused Gov. Scott Walker of "ignoring Wisconsin voices today and asking for the power to drown them out permanently tomorrow." It is important to note that the voices of which Mr. Grandone speaks are not those of the public at large. Voters sent an unmistakable message in November by taking solid majorities in the state Assembly and Senate away from Democrats and handing even greater control to Republicans. Mr. Walker, a Republican, won by six points.

That the protesters speak in a different voice can be seen in the signs they carry. Many compare Mr. Walker to Hitler, Mussolini or Hosni Mubarak. One placard had the slogan "Repeal Walker" with the governor's head in sniperscope cross hairs. This is the symbolism that Democrats recently denounced as "hate-filled rhetoric," and it is far from the voice of the public. It is rather the voice of an entitled class that seeks by any means to stop its free ride from coming to an end.

The public educators engaged in the demonstrations, many of whom earn more than $100,000 in salary and benefits, seem to think the normal rules of professional conduct do not apply to them. Many falsely called in sick to engage in self-serving political activism, apparently without fear of being disciplined. A group of Madison East High School students engaged in what a union organizer called an "unplanned walkoff" of the school grounds, but that the students said was organized truancy instigated by their teachers.

These demonstrations may be dramatic and TV-friendly, but White House operatives and their union cronies are on the wrong side of history. The American people are fed up with a sense of entitlement, waste and abuse in government service. Americans in the private sector have lost jobs, been forced to take pay cuts to continue working and have reduced spending just to make ends meet. Government workers face no such jeopardy and instead enjoy automatic raises, regardless of performance. The measures causing all the ruckus in Wisconsin would require public-sector employees (excluding police and firefighters) to contribute half of their pension costs and at least 12 percent of their health care costs, which is a better deal than most Americans get. The public sector employees also would lose collective bargaining rights for anything other than pay. These are reasonable sacrifices to make in a time of fiscal crisis, and by resisting them, the demonstrators expose themselves as selfish and unreasonable.

The White House and its allies have backed similar demonstrations in Ohio and Indiana, and more may be planned for other states. One can reasonably ask why Mr. Obama is spending his time seeking to undermine democratic processes in U.S. state legislatures and ignoring the pleas of Iranians trying to throw off the shackles of Islamic rule.
 
More on Obama butting in on state matters

Here are a couple of predictions related to Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker’s relatively modest requests of government unions (asking many of the state’s public employees to start contributing to their own pension and health-care benefits and limiting their collective bargaining rights to negotiations over pay rather than benefits) and the massive, angry protests they have elicited.

First, Governor Walker — if he holds shape and doesn’t back down (and I rather doubt he will back down) — will eventually benefit from this collision. Government unions, on the other hand, will suffer badly. The hysterical reaction to Walker’s reforms — comparing the governor of Wisconsin to (take your pick) Mubarak, Mussolini, or Hitler — is going to go down very poorly with the citizens of Wisconsin. Many of the public-employee protesters come across as pampered, childish, selfish, and overwrought.

Second, President Obama’s intervention in this matter — declaring that what is going on in Wisconsin is an “assault” on unions — will be about as successful as his interventions in other state and local matters, from the Arizona immigration law, to the mosque controversy in New York City, to the statement that the Cambridge police acted “stupidly” in arresting Harvard Professor Henry Louis “Skip” Gates. Which is to say, not successful at all.

What is happening in Madison would have been significant on its own; it is, after all, emblematic of the reforms and cuts that states have to make in order to avoid insolvency. But the intervention by the president into this fray has now raised the stakes enormously. He has made this fight his fight.

President Obama’s intervention also occurred during a week in which he released his own deeply irresponsible budget — one that avoids any of the difficult decisions that are necessary given our nation’s unprecedented fiscal imbalance. It is as if Mr. Obama, having proved he’s fundamentally unserious about fiscal issues on a national level, now wants to impede chief executives who are acting responsibly on a state level. It’s quite amazing, really.

This will, I think, be a battle that liberals will come to rue, and it may even be seen as a key moment in the larger debate about re-limiting government and restoring fiscal sanity. If you’re looking for historical parallels — and none is ever exact — think August 1981, when Ronald Reagan fired thousands of unionized air-traffic controllers for illegally going on strike, an event that marked a turning point in labor relations in America. Once again, labor groups will incur significant damage — but this time, so will the president.
 
I think from here on out Obama is in campaign mode. He's gonna play it as middle of the road as he can to get re-elected and hope the economy recovers faster than expected.
With growing anticipation of China falling into a recession, I think people are starting to come to the conclusion that our economy will get worse over the next two years, not better.
 

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