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Your opinion on the job that President Obama is doing so far (1 Viewer)

Your opinion on the job that President Obama is doing so far

  • strongly approve

    Votes: 43 17.8%
  • mildly approve

    Votes: 43 17.8%
  • mildly disapprove

    Votes: 31 12.8%
  • strongly disapprove

    Votes: 121 50.0%
  • neutral/no opinion

    Votes: 4 1.7%

  • Total voters
    242
Now it's Obama and the democrats turn to show these tea party guys how governance should be done
We've been waiting for a while now. Since he was elected, in fact.
If conservatives are pleased with the way the tea party has governed here lately, I think we can dismiss their opinions on good governance and just move on.
The Tea Party isn't a political party. It's a movement. Republicans that consider themselves part of the Tea Party movement are doing a heck of a job getting us to the point of discussing the coming insolvency of our entitlement programs, and the need to address those entitlement programs before they become insolvent. I think it's fantastic that there is a public discussion of entitlement reform. Without those brave elected officials we'd just be singing a happy tune and believing the Obamas of the world that there's nothing to worry about.Maybe you don't believe those entitlements should be addressed or reformed. I hope not.
 
BTW, I'm totally ready to cheerlead for Obama when he does something positive for America. Plenty of time left for him to do something before the 2012 election.

 
Now it's Obama and the democrats turn to show these tea party guys how governance should be done
We've been waiting for a while now. Since he was elected, in fact.
If conservatives are pleased with the way the tea party has governed here lately, I think we can dismiss their opinions on good governance and just move on.
The Tea Party isn't a political party. It's a movement. Republicans that consider themselves part of the Tea Party movement are doing a heck of a job getting us to the point of discussing the coming insolvency of our entitlement programs, and the need to address those entitlement programs before they become insolvent. I think it's fantastic that there is a public discussion of entitlement reform. Without those brave elected officials we'd just be singing a happy tune and believing the Obamas of the world that there's nothing to worry about.Maybe you don't believe those entitlements should be addressed or reformed. I hope not.
The point I was making was that the tea party succeeded in bringing that conversation front and center, and then showed itself incapable of governing by refusing to negotiate a deal that included tax increases. Many conservatives think they did the right thing by sticking to their guns on this, and that shows that these people have no idea how things get done in congress, and it leads me to discount their opinion on what good leadership is, especially if they think the tea party congresspeople have been demonstrating it.A deal could've been had to seriously improve our long term fiscal picture, but the tea party folks were too poor at governing to accept it.
 
A deal could've been had to seriously improve our long term fiscal picture, but the tea party folks were too poor at governing to accept it.
That's just not true. Raising taxes there, with looming Obamacare taxes and expiration of the Bush tax cuts on the way would have been a fiscal nightmare.We just disagree on how our problems should be resolved.
 
A deal could've been had to seriously improve our long term fiscal picture, but the tea party folks were too poor at governing to accept it.
That's just not true. Raising taxes there, with looming Obamacare taxes and expiration of the Bush tax cuts on the way would have been a fiscal nightmare.We just disagree on how our problems should be resolved.
A fiscal nightmare is solving long term problems with spending cuts alone. Cutting programs and jobs at a time when demand is so low is ridiculous. It seems the conservatives who promote these austerity measures learned nothing from Japan's mistakes.
 
The point I was making was that the tea party succeeded in bringing that conversation front and center, and then showed itself incapable of governing by refusing to negotiate a deal that included tax increases.
Dude, they are 20% of 1/3 of government. They hold very little power if the rest of the governmental group ignores them.
 
A deal could've been had to seriously improve our long term fiscal picture, but the tea party folks were too poor at governing to accept it.
That's just not true. Raising taxes there, with looming Obamacare taxes and expiration of the Bush tax cuts on the way would have been a fiscal nightmare.We just disagree on how our problems should be resolved.
A fiscal nightmare is solving long term problems with spending cuts alone. Cutting programs and jobs at a time when demand is so low is ridiculous. It seems the conservatives who promote these austerity measures learned nothing from Japan's mistakes.
You Keynesians kill me.Let's put it this way. What Obama's done thus far aint working, and it's making things worse.
 
The tea party doesn't have power. The house has power, and tea partiers and republicans refuse to let democrats use that power. the tea party then makes the republicans do whatever they ask. It is the cowardice and politicking of the republicans that gives the tea party the power they have, and that power is now dwindling as republicans continue to follow the political winds instead of doing what's best for america because the people are ashamed of what the tea party did to our nation

 
The tea party doesn't have power. The house has power, and tea partiers and republicans refuse to let democrats use that power. the tea party then makes the republicans do whatever they ask. It is the cowardice and politicking of the republicans that gives the tea party the power they have, and that power is now dwindling as republicans continue to follow the political winds instead of doing what's best for america because the people are ashamed of what the tea party did to our nation
You mean what Obama did to this nation.Unless you think the Tea Party has more power than Obama.
 
His new jobs plan is a great idea. Just what the country needs to get back on track.
The country is not interested in new ideas from this president. The voters in 2008 gave him the largest mandate any president has had since LBJ. He had 2 years to do whatever he wanted, which is more than almost any president gets, and removed the republicans from power completely. The public is interested in judging the results of his plans from 2009 and 2010. If they find the results lacking, they will remove him from office. But they stripped him of his power to pursue new plans in 2010, and aren't going to entertain new ideas from him at this time. If the economy turns around by election day, I believe they will re-elect him, which will give Obama a chance to enact new ideas. But not before.
Republicans were voted back in with a mandate, and they squandered their opportunity to impact things for the best when they held out against all compromise on this debt plan. A huge compromise of a bill was offered by Obama, and the republicans lead by the tea party extremists turned their noses up at it, instead deciding to hold fast to arbitrarily set points of negotiation.Rather than govern effectively, the republicans have squandered a huge opportunity to right this ship. The ball is back in the democrats, and Obama's, court.
The ball will be in the democrats court if they ever win an election cycle again.
 
Mubarek, Ghadafi and Bin Laden - with Assad on the ropes

Scoreboard!
I'm not sure if you've been following current Egypt-Israel relations or Egypt post-revolution, but the Mubarek toppling is increasingly looking negative for the U.S. and it's allies.As with the above example (and all revolutions for that matter) it's also too early to tell if Libya will be a net positive for the U.S.

Excellent job on Bin Laden. Definitely scoreboard material.

 
The tea party doesn't have power. The house has power, and tea partiers and republicans refuse to let democrats use that power. the tea party then makes the republicans do whatever they ask. It is the cowardice and politicking of the republicans that gives the tea party the power they have, and that power is now dwindling as republicans continue to follow the political winds instead of doing what's best for america because the people are ashamed of what the tea party did to our nation
You mean what Obama did to this nation.Unless you think the Tea Party has more power than Obama.
Under obamas watch we turned around from a massive stock market decline and a near crash to a huge upswing of thousands of points in the dow. While you whined incessantly about obama, he was busy solving peace in the middle east and getting bin laden. Your guys were elected on a single issue, and they managed to get that issue the floor for national debate for weeks. What did they accomplish? More politics as usual, as they refused the four trillion dollars in deficit reduction that s&p and obama wanted and demanded a smaller reduction because they were more concerned with keeping taxes at historic lows for the rich than actually accomplishing their only reason for being elected. Since they got that debate rolling, the markets have dropped almost a quarter of their value across the board, and america now puts the tea party slightly lower than herpes on the list of things they want more of. And here you are cheering them on. Again and again you root for the things that directly result in the slow demise of our country. Why do you hate america?
 
Under obamas watch we turned around from a massive stock market decline and a near crash to a huge upswing of thousands of points in the dow. While you whined incessantly about obama, he was busy solving peace in the middle east and getting bin laden.
Boy you and tgunz love to cherry pick the Dow part out of Obama's presidency. All the rest of the terrible economic indicators: Waaaahhh! We're digging out from years of Bush policy! Waaaahhh! Laughable.

The Middle East remark: Since Thursday, nine Israelis have been killed (including two soldiers), more than 100 have been wounded, more than 100 rockets have been launched from Gaza and 1 million Israelis have taken to shelters. Nice try, thanks for playing though.

I won't even call you a :bs: artist because the #### you sling is far from art.

I guess we now know the segment of the 20% of the Rasmussen poll who strongly approve of Obama. :shrug:

 
The tea party doesn't have power. The house has power, and tea partiers and republicans refuse to let democrats use that power. the tea party then makes the republicans do whatever they ask. It is the cowardice and politicking of the republicans that gives the tea party the power they have, and that power is now dwindling as republicans continue to follow the political winds instead of doing what's best for america because the people are ashamed of what the tea party did to our nation
You mean what Obama did to this nation.Unless you think the Tea Party has more power than Obama.
Under obamas watch we turned around from a massive stock market decline and a near crash to a huge upswing of thousands of points in the dow. While you whined incessantly about obama, he was busy solving peace in the middle east and getting bin laden. Your guys were elected on a single issue, and they managed to get that issue the floor for national debate for weeks. What did they accomplish? More politics as usual, as they refused the four trillion dollars in deficit reduction that s&p and obama wanted and demanded a smaller reduction because they were more concerned with keeping taxes at historic lows for the rich than actually accomplishing their only reason for being elected. Since they got that debate rolling, the markets have dropped almost a quarter of their value across the board, and america now puts the tea party slightly lower than herpes on the list of things they want more of. And here you are cheering them on. Again and again you root for the things that directly result in the slow demise of our country. Why do you hate america?
:lmao:
 
Under obamas watch we turned around from a massive stock market decline and a near crash to a huge upswing of thousands of points in the dow. While you whined incessantly about obama, he was busy solving peace in the middle east and getting bin laden.
Boy you and tgunz love to cherry pick the Dow part out of Obama's presidency. All the rest of the terrible economic indicators: Waaaahhh! We're digging out from years of Bush policy! Waaaahhh! Laughable.
What's laughable is the conservative opinion that a Republican can run the country off the edge of the cliff, hand off control to a democratic president as the back wheels leave the ground, and them complain when the democrats remind everyone that the republicans drove us off the cliff.
 
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BTW, I'm totally ready to cheerlead for Obama when he does something positive for America. Plenty of time left for him to do something before the 2012 election.
:no: :no: Please Obama has done a lot positive for America. You just refuse to even look at the postive that this President has done.
 
BTW, I'm totally ready to cheerlead for Obama when he does something positive for America. Plenty of time left for him to do something before the 2012 election.
:no: :no: Please Obama has done a lot positive for America. You just refuse to even look at the postive that this President has done.
He was in charge when Bin Laden was killed...What else you got???Iraq Still there, still paying, still dying.Guantanamo - Still there.He's escalating the war in Afghanistan, which has cost huge amounts of money, and lives.He's raised the deficit to new heights, mortgaging the futures of our nation, our children, and our grandchildren.The Real Unemployment Rate: 21.5% -
The official definition of unemployment also excludes certain groups who are sometimes thought of as being unemployed or “underemployed.” Those who would like to work, but who have stopped looking for work – so-called discouraged workers – are not counted in the official definition because they are not actively seeking work. People working part time who would prefer full-time work are also not counted as unemployed because they are working – albeit fewer hours than they would like.
Divided the country like no other "president" hasRammed through obamacare that no one wanted and has given waivers to 40% of union members Gave us a stimulus that did not workBusiness regulations:
The obama administration imposed 75 new major rules in its first 26 months, costing the private sector more than $40 billion, according to a Heritage Foundation study. "No other president has imposed as high a number or cost in a comparable time period.
obama has appointed 41 czars who have enormous power to regulate and control the American economy and government without any sort of oversight...He will go down in history as the worst ever...
 
Obama once again decides which laws to enforce and which to ignore

The Obama administration has specifically ordered the DHS to NOT enforce the laws of the land. Impeach this MF'er already.

WASHINGTON (The Blaze/AP) — The Obama administration said Thursday it will allow many illegal immigrants facing deportation the chance to stay in this country and apply for a work permit, while focusing on removing from the U.S. convicted criminals and those who might be a national security or public safety threat.

That will mean a case-by-case review of approximately 300,000 illegal immigrants facing possible deportation in federal immigration courts, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said in announcing the policy change.

Advocates for an immigration overhaul have said that the administration, by placing all illegal immigrants in the same category for deportation, has failed to live up to its promise to only deport the “worst of the worst,” as President Barack Obama has said.

“From a law enforcement and public safety perspective, DHS enforcement resources must continue to be focused on our highest priorities,” Napolitano wrote a group of senators supporting new immigration legislation. “Doing otherwise hinders our public safety mission – clogging immigration court dockets and diverting DHS enforcement resources away from the individuals who pose a threat to public safety.”

The Associated Press obtained a copy of the letter.

Sow what does this mean practically? The Washington Times tries to sort it out:

It was unclear how many people might be affected by the new rules, though in fiscal year 2010 the government deported nearly 200,000 illegal immigrants who it said did not have criminal records.

The Obama administration has argued for months that it did not have authority to grant blanket absolution, and Miss Napolitano stressed that these cases will be treated individually, though the new guidance applies across the board.

Some states are rebelling against another administration effort to control illegal immigration known as Secure Communities. The program requires that when state and local law enforcement send criminal suspects’ fingerprints to the FBI, the prints are run through an immigration database to determine the person’s immigration status. States have argued that the program puts them in the position of policing immigration, which they consider a federal responsibility. Immigrant advocacy groups have complained that people who had not yet been convicted of a crime were being caught up in the system.

In June, the director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, John Morton, sent a memo to agents outlining when and how they could use discretion in immigration cases. That guidance also covered those potentially subject to a legislative proposal, known as the DREAM Act, intended to give young illegal immigrants who go to college or serve in the military a chance at legal status.

Morton also suggested that agents consider how long someone has been in the United States, whether that person’s spouse or children are U.S. citizens and whether that person has a criminal record.

A senior administration official said delaying deportation decisions in cases for some non-criminals would allow quicker deportation of serious criminals. The indefinite stay will not give illegal immigrants a path to legal permanent residency, but will let them apply for a work permit.

“As a matter of law, they are eligible for a work authorization card, basically a taxpayer ID card, but that decision is made separately and on a case-by-case basis,” said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discussed the change publicly.

The official said the change will give authorities the chance to keep some cases from even reaching the court system. The message to agents in the field, the official said, would be “you do not need to put everyone you come across in the system.”

If an immigrant whose case has been stayed commits a crime or other circumstances change, their case could be reopened.

Sen. **** Durbin, D-Ill., a longtime supporter of immigration overhaul and the DREAM Act, applauded the policy change.

“These students are the future doctors, lawyers, teachers and, maybe, senators, who will make America stronger,” Durbin said in an emailed statement. “We need to be doing all we can to keep these talented, dedicated, American students here, not wasting increasingly precious resources sending them away to countries they barely remember.”

“Today is a victory not just for immigrants but for the American people as a whole because it makes no sense to deport Dream Act students and others who can make great contributions to America and pose no threat,” said Rep. Luis V. Gutierrez (D-IL). “It is not in our national interest to send away young people who were raised in the U.S. and have been educated here and want only to contribute to this country’s success.”

Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas, said the Obama administration was implementing reforms “against the will of Congress and the majority of American people we represent.”

“It is just the latest attempt by this president to bypass the intended legislative process when he does not get his way,” McCaul said in a statement. “The fact that we have a backlog and prioritize deportations is nothing new. This policy goes a step further granting illegal immigrants a fast-track to gaining a work permit where they will now unfairly compete with more than 9 percent of Americans who are still looking for jobs.”

Other Republicans have previously criticized the DREAM Act and other immigration legislation that would provide a path to legal status as amnesty. Following Morton’s June memo, Rep. Lamar Smith, R-Texas, introduced a bill to block the administration’s use of prosecutorial discretion and called the use of that discretion “backdoor amnesty.”

“Supporters of comprehensive and targeted amnesties for illegal aliens have consistently failed to win approval by Congress or gain support from the American public,” Dan Stein, president of the Federation for American Immigration Reform, told the Times. “Having failed in the legislative process, the Obama administration has simply decided to usurp Congress’s constitutional authority and implement an amnesty program for millions of illegal aliens.”
Really big fan of this decision. I really hate a lot of things that have happened under this administration but there are a some bits and pieces that really deserve some praise. :thumbup:
 
Obama's Green Jobs Con Game

The notion that we should move to a war footing on energy has been a reigning cliche of U.S. politics ever since Jimmy Carter's Oval Office energy crisis address in 1977. "This difficult effort will be the 'moral equivalent of war' — except that we will be uniting our efforts to build and not to destroy."

Ever since, we've been hearing that green must become the new red, white and blue.

It's difficult to catalog all of the problems with this nonsense. For starters, the mission keeps changing. Is the green energy revolution about energy independence? Or is it about fighting global warming? Or is it about jobs?

For most of the last few years the White House and its supporters have been saying it's about all three. But that's never been true. If we want energy independence (and I'm not sure why we would) or if we want to reduce our dependence on Middle Eastern oil (a marginally better proposition, given that Canada and often Mexico supply the U.S. with more oil than Saudi Arabia), we would massively expand our domestic drilling for oil and gas and our use of coal or carbon-free nuclear. That would also create lots of jobs that can't be exported (you can't drill for American oil in China, but we can, and do, buy lots of Chinese-made solar panels).

As for the windfall in green jobs, that has always been a con job.

For instance, Barack Obama came into office insisting that Spain was beating the U.S. in the rush for green jobs. Never mind that in Spain — where unemployment is now at 21% — the green jobs boom has been a bust. One major 2009 study by researchers at King Juan Carlos University found that the country destroyed 2.2 jobs in other industries for every green job it created, and the Spanish government has spent more than half a million euros for each green job created since 2000. Wind industry jobs cost a cool $1 million euros apiece.

The record in America has been no better, Obama's campaign stump speeches notwithstanding. The New York Times, which has been touting the green agenda in its news pages for years, admitted last week that "federal and state efforts to stimulate creation of green jobs have largely failed, government records show." Even Obama's former green jobs czar concedes the point, as do other leading Democrats, including Rep. Maxine Waters of Los Angeles.

Perhaps the most pathetic part of the war to green America is how unwarlike it really is. The New York Times also reported that California's "weatherization program was initially delayed for seven months while the federal Department of Labor determined prevailing wage standards for the industry," a direct sop to labor unions. And afterward, the inflated costs made the program too expensive for homeowners.

Green jobs, like shovel-ready jobs, proved a myth in no small part because Obama is eager to talk as if this green stuff was the moral equivalent of war, but he's not willing or able to do things a real war requires.

What we're left with is not the moral equivalent of war but the moral equivalent of a quagmire. A very expensive quagmire.
 
Obama turned the Bush Recession into a Depression

If the notion that we are merely living through the aftereffects of a mere “recession” that ended in 2009 sounds somewhat ridiculous, that’s because it is. If we were being honest with ourselves, we would call this a depression. That would certainly better convey both the severity of our problems, and the fact that those problems have no evident solutions.

The American economy currently has both a short-term problem and a long-term problem. The short-term problem is that the economy is depressed; it is growing more slowly than the population, with the result that per capita income is declining. The high rate of un- and underemployment is a factor, but is itself the product of other factors, having mainly to do with the reluctance of over-indebted consumers (over-indebted in major part because of loss of equity in their houses, the major source of household wealth) to spend, the reluctance of the impaired banking industry to make risky loans, and the reluctance of businesses to invest and to hire, which is due in part to weak consumer spending and in part to profound uncertainty about the nation’s economic future.

The roots of this catastrophic situations lie primarily, I think, in the incompetent economic management of the Bush administration and the Federal Reserve. The persistence of the depression, however, is due in part at least to surprising failures of the Obama administration—poor leadership, poor management, the sponsorship of incomprehensibly complex health care and financial regulation laws that have created widespread uncertainty that has discouraged consumption and investment, and the inability to explain the nature of the economy’s problems to the general public. These failures caused the stimulus enacted in February 2009 to be botched in both in its design and its administration, resulting in the discrediting of deficit spending as a response to depression.

So what can be done now? Probably nothing. Anything that involves spending, such as a new stimulus program, would come too late to be effective. Measures that would not involve spending, such as devaluing the currency (which the Federal Reserve could do by buying a great many bonds, thus flooding the world with dollars), could stimulate our exports and hence production and hence employment and reduce imports (which would further help domestic production), but they are too risky given the interdependence of our economy and the economies of the rest of the world. Europe is staggering and would be hurt by our devaluing, and our banks and other financial institutions are heavily involved in those European economies.

The long-term problem should be easier to solve. The problem is not the federal budget deficit per se, huge as it is. The public debt of the United States, which is what the federal government owes to persons who have lent money to the government (mainly purchasers of Treasury securities), and thus excludes debt incurred to finance entitlements and discretionary spending, is currently $9.7 trillion, with 46 percent of it owned by foreign governments and other foreigners. Although $9.7 trillion is big even for the United States, we can roll it over more or less effortlessly and at very low interest rates, at least at present and in the immediate future.

The problem is not the level of the debt but its growth. In the seven years between 2000 and 2007 (the last year before the financial crisis that triggered the current depression), the public debt grew in real (that is, inflation-adjusted) terms by 56 percent, the consequence of reckless spending and tax cuts by the Bush administration. Between 2007 and 2012 (the debt in fiscal 2012, which ends September 30 of next year, is of course an estimated number), a shorter period, the nation’s public debt will have grown by another 134 percent. The annual increase from 2009 to 2010 and the (estimated) annual increase from 2010 to 2011 are both 17 percent, and the estimated increase for 2012 is 18 percent. These annual rates of growth vastly exceed the rate of the nation’s economic growth even in prosperous times, and if they continue will bankrupt the federal government.

Unfortunately, even when the economy recovers, and tax revenues increase, the federal deficit will continue to rise because of the rapid growth of entitlement expenditures—primarily Medicare and Social Security and, because of the health-reform law, Medicaid. Leaving politics to one side, the increase in Social Security costs can easily be controlled, by a combination of raising the age of eligibility, revising the formula for calculating cost of living adjustments, and means testing—limiting eligibility to persons who do not have substantial other income. Medicare costs are more difficult to control, but not impossible. Medicare too can be means-tested—there is no reason to subsidize the medical costs of affluent people. Copayments and deductibles can be increased to make people think harder about whether they want expensive treatments of marginal efficacy. Medicare can be transformed, as proposed by Congressman Paul Ryan, from a government- administered heath care program to a subsidy program to enable non-affluent persons to buy private health insurance. And medical research can be refocused on finding cures for medical conditions such as blindness and dementia, which require protracted, expensive care because they create severe disability in the elderly without killing quickly.

Efforts to curb increased entitlement spending can be complemented by closing tax loopholes, some of which are as enormous as they are unjustified, notably the deduction for mortgage interest. Half the adult population, moreover, pays no income tax. Everyone with an income should pay income tax equal to a modest percentage of his income.

So the deficit, politics aside, should be manageable. But it’s worth pointing out that anything that takes money out of the economy, such as reducing federal spending or increasing federal taxes, will exacerbate the current depression. Consumers will have less money to spend, and this will discourage employers from hiring. So the reforms that I have been discussing should be phased in gradually over a period of years.

But it’s not clear that we have enough years. Suppose that the economy recovers by the end of 2012, and in 2013 and subsequent years grows at a 4 percent annual rate. (The long-term growth rate is about 3 percent, but growth is usually more rapid when it starts from a low level.) The public debt won’t continue to grow at 17 or 18 percent a year, but suppose it grows at 7 percent a year. Then the already very large federal deficit will continue to grow, and indeed, to compound: At a 7 percent annual growth rate, our public debt in 2012, estimated at $12.4 trillion, will grow by 40 percent in five years if none of the reforms designed to limit that growth are implemented before the end of that period. Yet if they are implemented while the economy is still struggling, the result may actually be to increase the deficit by driving tax revenues down (because incomes will be depressed) despite the elimination of loopholes, and by increasing transfer payments to the unemployed and others hard hit by the economic crisis.

The result is a quandary. I don’t see a way out of it. I hope others do.
 
Iowa Tea Party founder Ryan Rhodes on his famous exchanged with President Obama at an Iowa rally last week. He claims the Obama Administration cost him his job at a car dealership:http://www.cyinterview.com/2011/08/ryan-rhodes-the-iowan-who-went-head-to-head-with-president-obama-talks-about-it-his-background-supporting-congresswoman-michele-bachmann-and-agrees-with-cutting-politicians%E2%80%99-salaries-more
Does this surprise anyone, if you are not a "friend" of this campaigner-in-chief and his posse you are his enemy as is most of the country...It is a shame that obama has such a reach and no one does anything about it...He is such a uniter isn't he... He is nothing more than a thug in sheeps clothing with his toadys doing the dirty works...I amazes me that anyone thinks he is doing a good job... :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:
 
This is going to be one campaign that is super dirty and full of lies and half-truths because he cannot win on his pathetic record...

New-home sales fall, 2011 could be worst year yetWASHINGTON (AP) -- Sales of new homes fell for the third straight month in July, a sign that housing remains a drag on the economy. If the current pace continues, 2011 would be the worst year for new-home sales on records dating back at least half a century.Sales fell nearly 1 percent in July to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 298,000, the Commerce Department said Tuesday. That's less than half the 700,000 that economists say represent a healthy market.Last year, 323,000 homes were sold -- the worst year on records that go back to 1963.
How many of you are better off now???
 
Iowa Tea Party founder Ryan Rhodes on his famous exchanged with President Obama at an Iowa rally last week. He claims the Obama Administration cost him his job at a car dealership:

http://www.cyinterview.com/2011/08/ryan-rhodes-the-iowan-who-went-head-to-head-with-president-obama-talks-about-it-his-background-supporting-congresswoman-michele-bachmann-and-agrees-with-cutting-politicians%E2%80%99-salaries-more
I imagine Ryan Rhodes as a career loser mumbling to himself under his breath about yet another setback or failure in his life, always complaining about how the world is just so unfair to him - time to blame the them again huh Ryan.

Coffee is for CLOSERS.

Want to keep your job sell GD cars.

 
Is there anything more inconsistent then right-wing Republicans who are not for universal healthcare?

Dude, I have insurance and have to pay $100 a month to get a 30-day supply of anxiety medicine. I'm not talking about prostate checkups. Just tic-tacs.

Shameful people who will invoke religion in all kinds of topics yet not be in favor of universal healthcare.

No way around it. Just phoney people. Hope you believe in God cause he will deal with you.

 
This is going to be one campaign that is super dirty and full of lies and half-truths because he cannot win on his pathetic record...

New-home sales fall, 2011 could be worst year yetWASHINGTON (AP) -- Sales of new homes fell for the third straight month in July, a sign that housing remains a drag on the economy. If the current pace continues, 2011 would be the worst year for new-home sales on records dating back at least half a century.Sales fell nearly 1 percent in July to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 298,000, the Commerce Department said Tuesday. That's less than half the 700,000 that economists say represent a healthy market.Last year, 323,000 homes were sold -- the worst year on records that go back to 1963.
How many of you are better off now???
:hey: :hey: But then agaiin I have lived with in my means. (still spend more than I would like) My kids have everything they could want ( sometimes to much). My house has gone down in value, but still above what I purchased it for. That said I take control of my situation and do not blame the Government for what happens to my life if something goes wrong.
 
Iowa Tea Party founder Ryan Rhodes on his famous exchanged with President Obama at an Iowa rally last week. He claims the Obama Administration cost him his job at a car dealership:

http://www.cyintervi...9-salaries-more
Does this surprise anyone, if you are not a "friend" of this campaigner-in-chief and his posse you are his enemy as is most of the country...It is a shame that obama has such a reach and no one does anything about it...

He is such a uniter isn't he...

He is nothing more than a thug in sheeps clothing with his toadys doing the dirty works...

I amazes me that anyone thinks he is doing a good job... :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:
You cannot unite people that do not want to be united.

And he lost his job because of Chrysler/GM cutbacks not because of Obama. In fact Obama saved Chrysler/GM overall as a company. Which the Republicans hate, yet your going to say people losing their job due to restructoring is Obamas fault? Kinda nice to have it both ways.

 
Is there anything more inconsistent then right-wing Republicans who are not for universal healthcare?

Dude, I have insurance and have to pay $100 a month to get a 30-day supply of anxiety medicine. I'm not talking about prostate checkups. Just tic-tacs.

Shameful people who will invoke religion in all kinds of topics yet not be in favor of universal healthcare.

No way around it. Just phoney people. Hope you believe in God cause he will deal with you.
Religious wackos..Good luck with the schizophrenia meds.

 
'Daywalker said:
Is there anything more inconsistent then right-wing Republicans who are not for universal healthcare?Dude, I have insurance and have to pay $100 a month to get a 30-day supply of anxiety medicine. I'm not talking about prostate checkups. Just tic-tacs.Shameful people who will invoke religion in all kinds of topics yet not be in favor of universal healthcare.No way around it. Just phoney people. Hope you believe in God cause he will deal with you.
OK, so at least you summarized it a little bit in this thread.
 
Overall, I give him a B+, graded on a curve.

The curve being the TERRIBLE economy he inherited and has been struggling to improve.

 
Nice enough guy it seems. He's not a leader. Doesn't have creative ideas to move the country forward. Good thing he doesn't care much about foreign affairs and just went along with Bush's policies. Since Obamacare, what has he done? What did he do in 2010? So far in 2011? Where is that "laser focus" on jobs?

He got bin Laden and good for him. That, and being the first black president, will be his legacy. One term and out.

 
Overall, I give him a B+, graded on a curve.The curve being the TERRIBLE economy he inherited and has been struggling to improve.
I encourage him to withdraw, take the incomplete, and next semester change majors to something he excels at.
He's got the highest grade in the class. All the other boneheads are C's or worse. And let's not even begin to talk about the grades for the Republican frontrunner here, real or imagined.
 
Overall, I give him a B+, graded on a curve.The curve being the TERRIBLE economy he inherited and has been struggling to improve.
Welcome back, adonis, haven't seen you in a while.
'adonis said:
'CrossEyed said:
So you have no problem with the amount or the target of any of the spending that has happened under Obama's watch?
I'm certainly concerned about the level of debt we have right now. I will be much more concerned if in a year or so we're not making significant progress towards reducing it.
How we doing here?
 
What's funny to me is how muddled our views of our presidents are, largely based on how well the economy is doing, which is largely NOT something the president can control, especially during his first 2 years in office. Second 2 years you begin to see some policies taking hold, and certainly after 8 years you've made a big impact.

But the disapproval of "Obama" right now is so intermingled with dissatisfaction with the economy that it's silly to put it all on Obama. A lot of the initiatives he's had control over have done well. Pushed health care reform, consumer credit reform, financial reform (although all were watered down from their most effective state), done good things for LBGT community, got Bin Laden on a gutsy LEADERSHIP call, made another gutsy call with the pirates early on in administration, seems like Libya call is working out so far, major speech in Cairo made an impact on the region, willing to compromise hugely on debt deal but intransigent tea party republicans nixed the deal in order to score political points...

In such a rough political climate, with a tough economy, he's done a lot of good. Sure, he could've done better, but by and large I'm pleased with how he's done considering the climate and economy he inherited.

 
Overall, I give him a B+, graded on a curve.The curve being the TERRIBLE economy he inherited and has been struggling to improve.
Welcome back, adonis, haven't seen you in a while.
'adonis said:
'CrossEyed said:
So you have no problem with the amount or the target of any of the spending that has happened under Obama's watch?
I'm certainly concerned about the level of debt we have right now. I will be much more concerned if in a year or so we're not making significant progress towards reducing it.
How we doing here?
It's not our current debt that I think is a problem, it's the future increases and projections of future debts that I'm worried about, and the drivers of such debt. Right now, any new debt issued is almost free money, the interest rates are so low. 10 year bonds for only a percent or two? That's CRAZY cheap. Especially when we have a demand problem that could be stimulated by further government spending on projects that improve our long term viability (infrastructure, etc). Borrow cheap now, and pay it off over the next decade.Our long term debt problem STILL remains a big problem for me. Obama was on his way to proposing cuts near 4 trillion dollars, but was denied by the house tea party republicans. Sure, i'm disappointed more hasn't been done, and I'm hopeful that our long term debt situation is resolved soon, but our short term problems need to be corrected and can be corrected now, and the sooner we do that, and get our economy producing more jobs again, the better shape we'll be in long term (coupled with debt reduction measures).But clearly, there are two periods of time to look at regarding debt -short term and long term. Short term, with borrowing so cheap and a need for an influx of money to spur on demand, it'd be silly not to borrow and improve our country, putting people to work and encouraging demand to increase, rather than to go into austerity mode. Didn't work for Japan, won't work for us.
 
What's funny to me is how muddled our views of our presidents are, largely based on how well the economy is doing, which is largely NOT something the president can control, especially during his first 2 years in office. Second 2 years you begin to see some policies taking hold, and certainly after 8 years you've made a big impact.But the disapproval of "Obama" right now is so intermingled with dissatisfaction with the economy that it's silly to put it all on Obama. A lot of the initiatives he's had control over have done well. Pushed health care reform, consumer credit reform, financial reform (although all were watered down from their most effective state), done good things for LBGT community, got Bin Laden on a gutsy LEADERSHIP call, made another gutsy call with the pirates early on in administration, seems like Libya call is working out so far, major speech in Cairo made an impact on the region, willing to compromise hugely on debt deal but intransigent tea party republicans nixed the deal in order to score political points...In such a rough political climate, with a tough economy, he's done a lot of good. Sure, he could've done better, but by and large I'm pleased with how he's done considering the climate and economy he inherited.
What has he done in the last year and a half to try and help improve unemployment? You point to things that are either 2 years old or have nothing to do with the economy. That should be his #1 priority. His "laser focus" I guess we'll have to wait for him to return from Martha's Vinyard to find out. I'm sure the people that are out of work love having to wait just a little bit longer for a reason to "hope".
 
BARRASSO: Regulatory overreach smothering economy

Last year, President Obama promised Americans a recovery summer. This year, he’s given us a regulatory summer. He’s thrown a giant wet blanket on economic recovery and has given Americans a summer of more burdens, more costs and more rules.

At the beginning of this year, the White House issued an executive order to all agencies to review regulations. The goal was to cut costs and take Washington off the backs of business. The president’s order instructed all agencies that all rules “must promote predictability and reduce uncertainty” and “must identify and use the best, most innovative, and least burdensome tools for achieving regulatory ends.”

Since that order, more than seven months ago, the administration has repealed only one rule - a rule that effectively treated spilled milk like an oil spill. By contrast, since the start of the year, the administration has proposed more than 340 regulations at a cost of more than $65 billion to job creators. It is important to note that these are only the regulations for which the administration actually conducted an economic analysis. For hundreds more, it has regulated blindly, with no cost or job numbers associated with its rules.

The president said on his recent bus tour that “there is some red tape that needs to be cut, and we should cut it.” Yet in just one week in August, two new rules were finalized by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) - rules that increased the regulatory burden on job creators by $10 billion.

The first of these two rules is the so-called “transport rule,” which purports to regulate emissions from utility companies. Its proposed method is expensive and heavy-handed. The EPA itself admits that the transport rule will cost thousands of jobs and unleash a $2.7 billion burden on the private sector. This rule raises the cost of energy and will make it more expensive to run factories and small businesses.

The second rule is literally unprecedented. It is the first-ever rule released that regulates mileage for medium- and heavy-duty trucks. This is a costly move that adds complexity, and the impact will be broad-based. Regulating these vehicles will affect small businesses, cities and towns that purchase emergency vehicles such as firetrucks and ambulances, and recreational vehicle owners. Everything from delivery vans to full-size pickups to even school busses will be hampered by these new environmental requirements. At a time when building strong, safe vehicles in America should be a priority, these new regulations are making it harder.

Under this rule, consumers will end up paying $1,000 more for every medium- to heavy-duty truck. The total cost of the rule is $8.1 billion. It would be nice if we knew what effect this would have on American jobs. The EPA conveniently forgot to do an analysis of the jobs impact of this rule. A little common sense tells us this means the rule is bad news for already struggling American manufacturing jobs.

Waiting on the horizon is the single most expensive environmental regulation in history: the EPA’s ozone rule. It is estimated that it will cost nearly $1 trillion. The administration has temporarily delayed this rule, but it needs to be canceled. Our economy must not take a third strike, a third major rule this summer.

I have introduced, in the Senate, the Employment Impact Act. This common-sense legislation will force Washington always to take into consideration the impacts regulations have on jobs.

While the president tells Americans that he wants to cut red tape, his administration is still churning it out. Now he is planning on proposing yet another jobs plan next month. If he wants to take this issue seriously, part of that plan must scrap his administration’s expensive ozone rule. His administration’s own analysis shows that unless it cancels this rule, no jobs plan will matter. Instead, no-job zones will spring up all across America.

New regulations and uncertainty continue to take a toll on our economy. America’s job creators should not have to suffer through another summer of Washington’s job-destroying regulations.

Sen. John Barrasso of Wyoming is vice chairman of the Senate Republican Conference
 
What's funny to me is how muddled our views of our presidents are, largely based on how well the economy is doing, which is largely NOT something the president can control, especially during his first 2 years in office. Second 2 years you begin to see some policies taking hold, and certainly after 8 years you've made a big impact.But the disapproval of "Obama" right now is so intermingled with dissatisfaction with the economy that it's silly to put it all on Obama. A lot of the initiatives he's had control over have done well. Pushed health care reform, consumer credit reform, financial reform (although all were watered down from their most effective state), done good things for LBGT community, got Bin Laden on a gutsy LEADERSHIP call, made another gutsy call with the pirates early on in administration, seems like Libya call is working out so far, major speech in Cairo made an impact on the region, willing to compromise hugely on debt deal but intransigent tea party republicans nixed the deal in order to score political points...In such a rough political climate, with a tough economy, he's done a lot of good. Sure, he could've done better, but by and large I'm pleased with how he's done considering the climate and economy he inherited.
What has he done in the last year and a half to try and help improve unemployment? You point to things that are either 2 years old or have nothing to do with the economy. That should be his #1 priority. His "laser focus" I guess we'll have to wait for him to return from Martha's Vinyard to find out. I'm sure the people that are out of work love having to wait just a little bit longer for a reason to "hope".
Your question should be what has Congress done to turn this around. What about the 2010 class of Republicans that ran on fixing the job situation? I have yet to see them do a damn thing. Problem is you can blame each side and be right. At this point Congress and the President are not working for the US and instead they are fighting with each other. And guess who is paying the price?? WE ALL ARE!!
 
What's funny to me is how muddled our views of our presidents are, largely based on how well the economy is doing, which is largely NOT something the president can control, especially during his first 2 years in office. Second 2 years you begin to see some policies taking hold, and certainly after 8 years you've made a big impact.But the disapproval of "Obama" right now is so intermingled with dissatisfaction with the economy that it's silly to put it all on Obama. A lot of the initiatives he's had control over have done well. Pushed health care reform, consumer credit reform, financial reform (although all were watered down from their most effective state), done good things for LBGT community, got Bin Laden on a gutsy LEADERSHIP call, made another gutsy call with the pirates early on in administration, seems like Libya call is working out so far, major speech in Cairo made an impact on the region, willing to compromise hugely on debt deal but intransigent tea party republicans nixed the deal in order to score political points...In such a rough political climate, with a tough economy, he's done a lot of good. Sure, he could've done better, but by and large I'm pleased with how he's done considering the climate and economy he inherited.
What has he done in the last year and a half to try and help improve unemployment? You point to things that are either 2 years old or have nothing to do with the economy. That should be his #1 priority. His "laser focus" I guess we'll have to wait for him to return from Martha's Vinyard to find out. I'm sure the people that are out of work love having to wait just a little bit longer for a reason to "hope".
Your question should be what has Congress done to turn this around. What about the 2010 class of Republicans that ran on fixing the job situation? I have yet to see them do a damn thing. Problem is you can blame each side and be right. At this point Congress and the President are not working for the US and instead they are fighting with each other. And guess who is paying the price?? WE ALL ARE!!
:goodposting: I can't see how anyone can give ANY politician a good grade based on where we are today. Neither side has a true leader.
 
Libya seems like it's going to end up a success. So Obama deserves some credit for this.
The amount of credit is debateble but I think it's way too premature to claim any kind of success in Libya. This is merely the end of the beginning. Baghdad fell pretty quickly too.
 
Libya seems like it's going to end up a success. So Obama deserves some credit for this.
The amount of credit is debateble but I think it's way too premature to claim any kind of success in Libya. This is merely the end of the beginning. Baghdad fell pretty quickly too.
Baghdad fell to American military forces, and the next step was an American military occupation. That's what Obama has been trying to avoid. It's a completely different situation. Sure, we don't know how it's going to turn out, but can't we give Obama some credit for a good job so far?
 
Libya seems like it's going to end up a success. So Obama deserves some credit for this.
The amount of credit is debateble but I think it's way too premature to claim any kind of success in Libya. This is merely the end of the beginning. Baghdad fell pretty quickly too.
Baghdad fell to American military forces, and the next step was an American military occupation. That's what Obama has been trying to avoid. It's a completely different situation. Sure, we don't know how it's going to turn out, but can't we give Obama some credit for a good job so far?
Doesn't that depend on how it turns out? If Libya ends up more hostile to American interests, with a more "severe" dictatorship than it was previously, do we still give Obama credit for doing a good job?
 
Libya seems like it's going to end up a success. So Obama deserves some credit for this.
The amount of credit is debateble but I think it's way too premature to claim any kind of success in Libya. This is merely the end of the beginning. Baghdad fell pretty quickly too.
Baghdad fell to American military forces, and the next step was an American military occupation. That's what Obama has been trying to avoid. It's a completely different situation. Sure, we don't know how it's going to turn out, but can't we give Obama some credit for a good job so far?
He deserves some credit for helping to prevent the slaughter of citizens at Benghazi which probably turned the tide for the rebels. After that, the US took a backup role so I don't know exactly to what extent we were involved. I'm sure it's more than we are being told. By Obama's own admission, the goal was never regime change but protection for citizens.
 

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