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Let's just cut thru the BS and get down to brass tax. Let's assume no IDP league(sorry), PPR, 6 pts ALL TD, leagues that slant to the TE(2PPR) as well if you like...I want to know where certain players are actually being drafted. I have a list here and please feel free to post your own up.

Jimmy Graham and Rob Gronkowski: They fly off in most of my leagues by the mid 1st, they are TE slanted but even in regular PPR they are usually gone in the 1st round. The other night in a 10 team league that saw 5-6 QBs off the board in the 1st round, Graham made it to 2.05 but that's a weird situation. I'm saying 1st round almost all formats.

Matt Ryan: He might have started in January in the 6th round, that might have held until the NFL Draft...the other night he went at 3.02, I've heard 2nd round...no way this guy lasts past the 3rd/4th IMO. If you really want him and perhaps now you don't, but the price point has been early 3rd lately.

Trent Richardson: I have seen him hyped as a late 1st/early 2nd, now the injury concerns, ease him into the starting spot, his stock is down. Saw him fall to the 4th the other night, still not a fan right now.

Adrian Paterson: All over the place, one draft 3rd, another 4th, another the 5.01

Donald Brown: Maybe some saw the real Brown tonight with a 7/8 performance on the ground...Indy OL not so good. I applaud when folks take him in the 5th, higher the better for me.

Roy Helu: I still see guys grab him mid 8th...WTH?! I also have been in drafts where he went almost undrafted.

David Wilson...last night had to wake some people back up.

Brandon LLoyd: I have to grab him in the 4th or I don't get him.



Torrey Smith: 7th round? He is going in the 5th now.

Jordy Nelson: I'm saying early to mid 3rd





 
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Vick fell to the 6th round in my 12 team league last night. I think he's good value there with a decent backup.

 
Vick fell to the 6th round in my 12 team league last night. I think he's good value there with a decent backup.
I think he might be bait this year. In a best ball format he has some merit but at the same time you gotta burn a pick sooner than later with him. If he does go down for 4-6 weeks along the way or operates at less than 100% several times, not sure the price tag is a bargain. Rivers is about the same area, he is always good for 4,000+ yds, 25 TD, little threat to be injured usually. And you don't have to reach for the QB2 as quickly. Others I like better, why not Eli Manning at that point? Much safer IMO.
 
Vick fell to the 6th round in my 12 team league last night. I think he's good value there with a decent backup.
I think he might be bait this year. In a best ball format he has some merit but at the same time you gotta burn a pick sooner than later with him. If he does go down for 4-6 weeks along the way or operates at less than 100% several times, not sure the price tag is a bargain. Rivers is about the same area, he is always good for 4,000+ yds, 25 TD, little threat to be injured usually. And you don't have to reach for the QB2 as quickly. Others I like better, why not Eli Manning at that point? Much safer IMO.
A guppy took Eli Manning in the third round. I'm happy with Vick in the 6th and RG3 in the 9th.
 
Feel free to post up any shocking picks or surprise picks in your draft. It could be a pick that allowed you to scoop up some value, or any player you think is being misrepresented of where they truly end up going in most of these.

 
Vick fell to the 6th round in my 12 team league last night. I think he's good value there with a decent backup.
I think he might be bait this year. In a best ball format he has some merit but at the same time you gotta burn a pick sooner than later with him. If he does go down for 4-6 weeks along the way or operates at less than 100% several times, not sure the price tag is a bargain. Rivers is about the same area, he is always good for 4,000+ yds, 25 TD, little threat to be injured usually. And you don't have to reach for the QB2 as quickly. Others I like better, why not Eli Manning at that point? Much safer IMO.
A guppy took Eli Manning in the third round. I'm happy with Vick in the 6th and RG3 in the 9th.
I'll be honest, that's a lot of risk. Rookie QBs starting all 16 games...doesn't happen that often. If I took Vick, I would be looking for something safer like Joe Flacco to back him up. That's just my opinion, I'm sure you can find a bunch of folks that love RG3...I like him too but are we drafting dynasty or redraft.
 
Vick fell to the 6th round in my 12 team league last night. I think he's good value there with a decent backup.
I think he might be bait this year. In a best ball format he has some merit but at the same time you gotta burn a pick sooner than later with him. If he does go down for 4-6 weeks along the way or operates at less than 100% several times, not sure the price tag is a bargain. Rivers is about the same area, he is always good for 4,000+ yds, 25 TD, little threat to be injured usually. And you don't have to reach for the QB2 as quickly. Others I like better, why not Eli Manning at that point? Much safer IMO.
A guppy took Eli Manning in the third round. I'm happy with Vick in the 6th and RG3 in the 9th.
I'll be honest, that's a lot of risk. Rookie QBs starting all 16 games...doesn't happen that often. If I took Vick, I would be looking for something safer like Joe Flacco to back him up. That's just my opinion, I'm sure you can find a bunch of folks that love RG3...I like him too but are we drafting dynasty or redraft.
My league only rewards 4 points for passing TDs and 1 point for 50 passing yards. QBs get 6 points for rushing TDs and 1 point for every 20 yards.
 
My league only rewards 4 points for passing TDs and 1 point for 50 passing yards. QBs get 6 points for rushing TDs and 1 point for every 20 yards.
Oh IC. I posted in the OP 6 points ALL TD, that league really takes a hatchet to QBs.You'll be fine
 
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One guy in my big money league drafted Brady, Welker, Gronk, Lloyd, and Gostkowski in the 5th :lmao:

I love taking guppies money :thumbup:

 
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Did a draft this am (12 team standard scoring)....marshall was the fourth wr taken off the board in late second followed by julio ahead of johnson and fitz....i was happy to grab fitz in the late third.

 
Did a draft this am (12 team standard scoring)....marshall was the fourth wr taken off the board in late second followed by julio ahead of johnson and fitz....i was happy to grab fitz in the late third.
I see your logic but I will say that I have Marshall way above most. As soon as Calvin, Julio, and maybe a couple others are off the board, I believe Marshall is the best of that big 10-15 group that gets torn thru in the 2nd/3rd/early 4th, he is one of my must have types in most leagues. I think he will earn his paycheck and then some this year. Fitz is gonna have a rough go of it at times.
 
One guy in my big money league drafted Brady, Welker, Gronk, Lloyd, and Gostkowski in the 5th :lmao:

I love taking guppies money :thumbup:
:unsure: I can think of worse ways to start
His first 4 picks were actually decent until he completely blew it taking a kicker in the 5th. His RBs are very weak w/ Donald Brown, J. Stewart, and Starks. He will have some issues on Patriots bye.
In that case, best place for all that to land because the rest of the team is so bad it might not matter...but some weeks owners are going to be spitting nails with that group in place. Might only need 10 from Brown, 10 from JStew if you have 60-70 from the rest some weeks. Brady throws 3-4 TD to those guys and you got 30-40 just in TDs and then the yards and such.
 
Also Nicks can be had in the 4th round. He's excellent value there IMO
12 team Non-PPR, but Nicks went at 3.12. Same team took Richardson at 4.01. League is start TE with flex WR/TE and both Gronk/Graham went 1st two rounds.
I just cant take a te in the first.....with hernadez, gates, davis etc you have to get a better player with that pick...rb's are so thin this year.
 
I look at things a little differently, I guess. I use a lot of logic to set my rankings.

For example: Jones/Atl seems to be going off the boards in the late 1st or early 2nd. Roddy White went at 1:06 in 1 of my FPC drafts and early in the 3rd in another. Tony G. is going in the late 5th to early 6th. If you agree with those locations, then why was Ryan going in the 6th to 7th? I got him at 6:03 in my 1st FPC and at 5:01 in my 2nd.

Roddy White at 1:06

Decker/WR/Den at 4:11

Charles/KC at 2:04.

 
In a 10 team, 1PPR for TE league -- I picked up Graham at 2.04, Gronk went 2.05. We had 4 QBs off the board in the first round - Stafford was 1.09. I actually got McCoy at 1.07 because Brees, Brady, and Rodgers all went in the first 6 picks.

Ryan went 3.02 in our draft. 1.02 was Calvin Johnson, and 2.09 for this team was Roddy White. This teams' starting RB is Fred Jackson :yucky:

 
In a mid round break of a draft right not .5 for RB and 1.o fopr wr/te in PPR. 1 per 10 6 pts all td

Jimmy Graham and Rob Gronkowski: graham 2.03 gronk mid 3.06

Matt Ryan: 3.11

Trent Richardson: 4.03

Adrian Paterson: not sure who this is but APD went 2.06

Donald Brown: 7.05

Roy Helu: not drafted yet

David Wilson...not drafted yet

Brandon LLoyd: 5.07

Torrey Smith: 7th round? 7.12

Jordy Nelson: 4.09

 
FF Calculator has a nice new feature called Scenario Calculator

Put in your draft slot in and it gives the percentage chance a player will still be available based on the ADP generated by their mocks.

So if you're drafting in the 5th spot then in the 4th round you have

8% chance at Jordy Nelson

42% chance at Matt Ryan

77% chance at Brandon Lloyd

This is based on their standard scoring mocks. They also have a PPR version. Both are fun/interesting to play with.

http://fantasyfootballcalculator.com/scenario.php

 
Roy Helu in the 8th is not that big of a reach IMO. The reward could be similiar to Marshawn Lynch last year. No definite timetable on his return but he did practice on wednesday on a limited basis

My link

 
Let's just cut thru the BS and get down to brass tax. Let's assume no IDP league(sorry), PPR, 6 pts ALL TD, leagues that slant to the TE(2PPR) as well if you like...I want to know where certain players are actually being drafted. I have a list here and please feel free to post your own up.

Jimmy Graham and Rob Gronkowski: They fly off in most of my leagues by the mid 1st, they are TE slanted but even in regular PPR they are usually gone in the 1st round. The other night in a 10 team league that saw 5-6 QBs off the board in the 1st round, Graham made it to 2.05 but that's a weird situation. I'm saying 1st round almost all formats.

Matt Ryan: He might have started in January in the 6th round, that might have held until the NFL Draft...the other night he went at 3.02, I've heard 2nd round...no way this guy lasts past the 3rd/4th IMO. If you really want him and perhaps now you don't, but the price point has been early 3rd lately.

Trent Richardson: I have seen him hyped as a late 1st/early 2nd, now the injury concerns, ease him into the starting spot, his stock is down. Saw him fall to the 4th the other night, still not a fan right now.

Adrian Paterson: All over the place, one draft 3rd, another 4th, another the 5.01

Donald Brown: Maybe some saw the real Brown tonight with a 7/8 performance on the ground...Indy OL not so good. I applaud when folks take him in the 5th, higher the better for me.

Roy Helu: I still see guys grab him mid 8th...WTH?! I also have been in drafts where he went almost undrafted.

David Wilson...last night had to wake some people back up.

Brandon LLoyd: I have to grab him in the 4th or I don't get him.



Torrey Smith: 7th round? He is going in the 5th now.

Jordy Nelson: I'm saying early to mid 3rd



Drafted this afternoon:Graham: 2.9 (Honestly thought he would go earlier but this might end up being the sweet spot for him.)

Gronk: 3.7 (Me)

Ryan: 6.4 (Me. Loved him here.)

Richardson: 4.3

A. Peterson: 3.1 (Seems to be in line with where he keeps falling.)

D. Brown: 9.5 (Thought this was a round too late. Would have taken him myself had he fallen to me two picks later.)

Helu: 8.8 (Well, early. Hightower went in the 19th or 20th round.)

Wilson: 12.4 (Me. Might have been able to wait a round or two but he's my last RB and I targeted him.)

Lloyd: 6.8 (In the mix in this range with several other WRs who seem all the same.)

Smith: 7.2 (Guy specifically said he was reaching a little because he targeted Smith and wanted to make sure he got him.)

Nelson: 3.9

Ten team league with scoring similar to the OP. I drafted out of the 7 spot for whatever that's worth. Had no intention of Gronk in 3rd but didn't expect him to be there either. When he was and the WRs left were all pretty much the same I went with him. I also reached a round ahead of ADP for Hillis (8) and M. Bush (10) because I took Forte and Charles early. General reaction was that at least Hillis probably would have gone off the board before I picked in the 9th.

Other notes:

Cam Newton dropped to 4.6

Roddy White 2.10; Julio Jones 3.2

Cedric Benson 9.2

Ryan Matthews 2.3

Mike Wallace 4.1

ETA: Re Helu: My opinion is probably influenced by my swearing off of Shanahan RB situations forever. I've been sober from the temptation for one draft now.

 
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12 team league (2 keepers max w/ 2 round penalty - I kept Demarco Murray for 14th and Aaron Hernandez for 12th) - so players like Rodgers, Cam, and Stafford were "taken" at much lower spots.

I ended up with Vick at 7.2 - had no intention of taking him this year, but the value was too good with half of the top 10 QBs already held out of the draft. Things that jumped out to me were:

1.4 Calvin Johnson

2.4 Ryan Matthews

2.5 Jimmy Graham (Been seeing him in the 1st too, so this was a surprise, esp w/ Gronk a keeper for a 5th)

2.9 Trent Richardson

4.2 Kevin Smith

6.5 Donald Brown

10.1 David Wilson

11.7 Roy Helu

 
Drafted this afternoon:Graham: 2.9 (Honestly thought he would go earlier but this might end up being the sweet spot for him.)Gronk: 3.7 (Me)Ryan: 6.4 (Me. Loved him here.)Richardson: 4.3A. Peterson: 3.1 (Seems to be in line with where he keeps falling.)D. Brown: 9.5 (Thought this was a round too late. Would have taken him myself had he fallen to me two picks later.)Helu: 8.8 (Well, early. Hightower went in the 19th or 20th round.)Wilson: 12.4 (Me. Might have been able to wait a round or two but he's my last RB and I targeted him.)Lloyd: 6.8 (In the mix in this range with several other WRs who seem all the same.)Smith: 7.2 (Guy specifically said he was reaching a little because he targeted Smith and wanted to make sure he got him.)Nelson: 3.9 Ten team league with scoring similar to the OP. I drafted out of the 7 spot for whatever that's worth. Had no intention of Gronk in 3rd but didn't expect him to be there either. When he was and the WRs left were all pretty much the same I went with him. I also reached a round ahead of ADP for Hillis (8) and M. Bush (10) because I took Forte and Charles early. General reaction was that at least Hillis probably would have gone off the board before I picked in the 9th.Other notes:Cam Newton dropped to 4.6Roddy White 2.10; Julio Jones 3.2Cedric Benson 9.2Ryan Matthews 2.3Mike Wallace 4.1ETA: Re Helu: My opinion is probably influenced by my swearing off of Shanahan RB situations forever. I've been sober from the temptation for one draft now.
Would love to hear what your results were. I was also 7th yesterday in 10 team, PPR....
 
Out of the 3 hole in 10 team ppr, got Rice in the 1st, Graham in the 2nd, Marshall in the 3rd, Nicks in the 4th, Mathews in the 5th, McGahee in the 6th, Lloyd in the 7th, Blackmon in the 8th, Vick in the 9th, Wilson in the 10th, Cutler in the 11th.. took a flier on Russell Wilson in the 19th. The others were just value picks.

 
FF Calculator has a nice new feature called Scenario CalculatorPut in your draft slot in and it gives the percentage chance a player will still be available based on the ADP generated by their mocks.So if you're drafting in the 5th spot then in the 4th round you have 8% chance at Jordy Nelson42% chance at Matt Ryan77% chance at Brandon LloydThis is based on their standard scoring mocks. They also have a PPR version. Both are fun/interesting to play with.http://fantasyfootballcalculator.com/scenario.php
That is fun- but not accurate. I goit two guys yesterday that this calculator says I had a 0 percent chance to get ( forte at 2.4 and S jax at 3.9)I agree with the OP's observations completely. Vick is definitely falling fast. He was the drafted in the 6th round yesterday as the 8th qb off the board.
 
One guy in my big money league drafted Brady, Welker, Gronk, Lloyd, and Gostkowski in the 5th :lmao:I love taking guppies money :thumbup:
Amazing that the guppy knew gronkowski was great value in the 3rd but you didn't. ;)
He's good value there but we don't have to start a TE in our league, it's 3 WR/TE so Graham and Gronk lose value
Do you know where gronkowski finished last year in non TE leagues?:waits:...now, are you sure he lose much value?
 
One guy in my big money league drafted Brady, Welker, Gronk, Lloyd, and Gostkowski in the 5th :lmao:I love taking guppies money :thumbup:
Amazing that the guppy knew gronkowski was great value in the 3rd but you didn't. ;)
He's good value there but we don't have to start a TE in our league, it's 3 WR/TE so Graham and Gronk lose value
Do you know where gronkowski finished last year in non TE leagues?:waits:...now, are you sure he lose much value?
Yes, I had him last year. He wasn't going to make it back to me at 3.09. I think that has more to do with it.
 
Out of the 3 hole in 10 team ppr, got Rice in the 1st, Graham in the 2nd, Marshall in the 3rd, Nicks in the 4th, Mathews in the 5th, McGahee in the 6th, Lloyd in the 7th, Blackmon in the 8th, Vick in the 9th, Wilson in the 10th, Cutler in the 11th.. took a flier on Russell Wilson in the 19th. The others were just value picks.
My bad, got David Wilson in the 12th.. Cutler was 10th.. Mendenhall was in the 11th.
 
We had our draft Friday night: 12 team non ppr , TD's are 6 pts for QB's, No TE's need to be rostered but can be used as WR's.

You need to roster 2 QB's, 4RB's, 5WR's, 2DST, 2K and 1 flex, any position.

We start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, DST, K.

I had the 8 spot,

8. McFadden

17. SJAX

32. Martin

41. Nicks

56. Rivers

65. Gates

80. Wayne

89. M.Bush

104. LaFell

113. Ponder

128. Buffalo Defense

137. Little

152. R. Bullock PK

161. Pitt Def

176. Sam Bradford

185. Zuerlein

Other notable picks:

Top 4 QB's went 4,5,6,7(Stafford), Newton went at 1.12.

Vick end of the 6th round

MJD 2.20

Nelson 2.21

Ryan 2.22

T-Rich 3.34

Graham 3.35

Eli 4.38

Hillis 4.39

Gronk 4.42

Luck 5.58

 
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Out of the 3 hole in 10 team ppr, got Rice in the 1st, Graham in the 2nd, Marshall in the 3rd, Nicks in the 4th, Mathews in the 5th, McGahee in the 6th, Lloyd in the 7th, Blackmon in the 8th, Vick in the 9th, Wilson in the 10th, Cutler in the 11th.. took a flier on Russell Wilson in the 19th. The others were just value picks.
Maybe Im just really high on these guys, but thats about as perfect a draft as Ive seen. Your first 3 picks have about as little risk as possible with arguably the highest ceilings for each of their positions. Nicks and Mathews are steals there. Lloyd and Vick are the only players Im not particularly high on, but Vick especially was a no-brainer there and I think Cutler has a great shot to be a low QB1 this year. I hope 1 of my money league teams looks like this!! :thumbup:
 
Twenty year league, 14 teams, 2 PPR, lots of bonuses for comp pct, yds per carry & reception

Jimmy Graham and Rob Gronkowski: Graham 1.12, Gronk 2.06

Matt Ryan: 4.13. very surprised

Trent Richardson: 2.14

Adrian Paterson: 3.08

Donald Brown: 7.05

Roy Helu: 8.03, before Royster, Hightower and Morris

David Wilson...: 6.13

Brandon LLoyd: : 5.05

Torrey Smith: : 5.07

Jordy Nelson: 3.07

Let's just cut thru the BS and get down to brass tax. Let's assume no IDP league(sorry), PPR, 6 pts ALL TD, leagues that slant to the TE(2PPR) as well if you like...I want to know where certain players are actually being drafted. I have a list here and please feel free to post your own up.

Jimmy Graham and Rob Gronkowski: They fly off in most of my leagues by the mid 1st, they are TE slanted but even in regular PPR they are usually gone in the 1st round. The other night in a 10 team league that saw 5-6 QBs off the board in the 1st round, Graham made it to 2.05 but that's a weird situation. I'm saying 1st round almost all formats.

Matt Ryan: He might have started in January in the 6th round, that might have held until the NFL Draft...the other night he went at 3.02, I've heard 2nd round...no way this guy lasts past the 3rd/4th IMO. If you really want him and perhaps now you don't, but the price point has been early 3rd lately.

Trent Richardson: I have seen him hyped as a late 1st/early 2nd, now the injury concerns, ease him into the starting spot, his stock is down. Saw him fall to the 4th the other night, still not a fan right now.

Adrian Paterson: All over the place, one draft 3rd, another 4th, another the 5.01

Donald Brown: Maybe some saw the real Brown tonight with a 7/8 performance on the ground...Indy OL not so good. I applaud when folks take him in the 5th, higher the better for me.

Roy Helu: I still see guys grab him mid 8th...WTH?! I also have been in drafts where he went almost undrafted.

David Wilson...last night had to wake some people back up.

Brandon LLoyd: I have to grab him in the 4th or I don't get him.



Torrey Smith: 7th round? He is going in the 5th now.

Jordy Nelson: I'm saying early to mid 3rd



 
Doug Martin just went 2.10 in a redraft, 12 teamer, non PPR, 6 pts all tds this morning.

Gronk and Graham went back to back 1.11 and 1.12 respectively.

Matt Ryan 3.03

Peterson 3.05

Torrey Smith 7.01

 
Would love to hear what your results were. I was also 7th yesterday in 10 team, PPR....
Ours was also PPR. Must start 2RB and 3WR. No flex option ( :hot: ):1.Forte, 2. J. Charles, 3. Gronk, 4. Nicks, 5. Harvin, 6. M. Ryan, 7. Decker, 8. Hillis, 9. Ingram, 10. M. Bush, 11. D. Moore, 12. D. Wilson, 13. Meachem, 14. Freeman, 15. Buffalo, 16. San Diego, 17. Lafell, 18. a kicker, 19. K. Rudolph, 20. another kicker.A couple tough choices for me were D. Bryant or Nicks in the 4th, Charles/Murray/Sproles in 2nd.This was my first draft in this particular league and the first I've done in years in a league with no flex starting lineup options. RBs carry a lot of value so as the first 2 rounds developed I decided to focus there in hopes the depth of the WR pool would still allow me to put together a decent crew. Would have started that in the 3rd but Gronk was too good to resist at 3.7, especially given the WR options of Nelson, Cruz, Wallace, Nicks, Bryant. I was sure one would be there for me at 4.4 so I went for the chance to add Gronk.I hope posting all this fits with the purpose of the thread. I'm not trying to do a "look at my team" thing. Two drafts next weekend and I'm at 10 for one and 7 again for the other. I like seeing what others are doing in similar spots as the draft approaches.
 
Would love to hear what your results were. I was also 7th yesterday in 10 team, PPR....
Ours was also PPR. Must start 2RB and 3WR. No flex option ( :hot: ):1.Forte, 2. J. Charles, 3. Gronk, 4. Nicks, 5. Harvin, 6. M. Ryan, 7. Decker, 8. Hillis, 9. Ingram, 10. M. Bush, 11. D. Moore, 12. D. Wilson, 13. Meachem, 14. Freeman, 15. Buffalo, 16. San Diego, 17. Lafell, 18. a kicker, 19. K. Rudolph, 20. another kicker.A couple tough choices for me were D. Bryant or Nicks in the 4th, Charles/Murray/Sproles in 2nd.This was my first draft in this particular league and the first I've done in years in a league with no flex starting lineup options. RBs carry a lot of value so as the first 2 rounds developed I decided to focus there in hopes the depth of the WR pool would still allow me to put together a decent crew. Would have started that in the 3rd but Gronk was too good to resist at 3.7, especially given the WR options of Nelson, Cruz, Wallace, Nicks, Bryant. I was sure one would be there for me at 4.4 so I went for the chance to add Gronk.I hope posting all this fits with the purpose of the thread. I'm not trying to do a "look at my team" thing. Two drafts next weekend and I'm at 10 for one and 7 again for the other. I like seeing what others are doing in similar spots as the draft approaches.
I know I didn't want to hijack the original post of the thread either, but have not been able to locate an official 7th pick thread...with that in mind I think I'll start one...it is strange your team is a lot like mine, but since we start 1QB,1RB,1WR,1TE, and 4 flex it is a little different...
 
Out of the 3 hole in 10 team ppr, got Rice in the 1st, Graham in the 2nd, Marshall in the 3rd, Nicks in the 4th, Mathews in the 5th, McGahee in the 6th, Lloyd in the 7th, Blackmon in the 8th, Vick in the 9th, Wilson in the 10th, Cutler in the 11th.. took a flier on Russell Wilson in the 19th. The others were just value picks.
Maybe Im just really high on these guys, but thats about as perfect a draft as Ive seen. Your first 3 picks have about as little risk as possible with arguably the highest ceilings for each of their positions. Nicks and Mathews are steals there. Lloyd and Vick are the only players Im not particularly high on, but Vick especially was a no-brainer there and I think Cutler has a great shot to be a low QB1 this year. I hope 1 of my money league teams looks like this!! :thumbup:
thanks man :thumbup:
 
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